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Stakerz
12 May 2007, 20:03
Dick and Isles I think should be ommited.
Medhurst and Clement to come in :)
ROWDY26
12 May 2007, 20:08
Dick and Isles I think should be ommited.
Medhurst and Clement to come in :)
Dick for Medhurst, If Clement is ok id take out Waiklen,Toovey or Brodie, before Iles. He was solid today and better than those 3, even though most on here dont rate him because he keeps prooving them wrong.
Lexus Rose Oval
12 May 2007, 20:15
I think Clement is out for another 2 weeks
Stakerz
12 May 2007, 20:15
Brodie will get better, Not to sure about Isles.
Wakes could be an option but did fairly well.
PieLebo87
12 May 2007, 20:16
Dick and Isles I think should be ommited.
Medhurst and Clement to come in :)
From the sounds of MM, theres going to be alot more then just those changes.
Id be suprised if at least 1 of these 3 dont get a game;
Goldsack, Nicholls, Cook.
Dont forget we also have to get Cox and Davis back.
ROWDY26
12 May 2007, 20:23
Brodie will get better, Not to sure about Isles.
Wakes could be an option but did fairly well.
i think a 19 yo in his 5th game and 1st for the year will improve a fair bit with more senior game time!!
Brodie IMO shouldn't of been played today, he should of played for Willy, although it's all well and good to say that in retrospect. You could tell he lacked match fitness in the way he was run down or almost run down a couple of times.
However he will be much better in his 2nd game.
Iles disapointed me, did some nice things, and went well defensively, but does some dumb things and is a bit of a battler. Depending on how Cox goes in the VFL, he may be replaced.
Dick for Davis or Medhurst (both will probably come in) will probably happen. Although I was happy with Dick.
Toovey may also be dropped, with Holland back in the side to be a negator.
ROWDY26
12 May 2007, 21:25
Iles disapointed me, did some nice things, and went well defensively, but does some dumb things and is a bit of a battler. Depending on how Cox goes in the VFL, he may be replaced.
what were the dumb things he did, please explain?
he had 14 possesions in about half a game.
used the ball well and fired out some lightning handballs from beneth the packs. Kept Betts and Bower quiet, probably the only thing he did slightly bad was when Saddington chopped off his pass to Rocca, and even that is Saddingtons opponents wrong doing. Took a good mark on the wing and laid some very important sheppards.
Stop bagging him ffs and actually watch him closely next time, im sick of some of you armchair experts bagging players out because of maybe one game you saw them play 20 months ago.
i maybe a biast Clarence supporter (thats where he is from, in case u didnt know)but i think if u watch him closely u will see that he does a lot more than he gets credit for. lay off
Don't be too hard on Brad Dick, from where I was sitting at the G he chased like Aaron Davey all day, didn't land the tackles but Carlton players were aware of him and he made them think twice. He was ok IMO.
Danny_CFC
12 May 2007, 22:00
Toovey didn't do to bad today shouldn't be dropped
what were the dumb things he did, please explain?
he had 14 possesions in about half a game.
used the ball well and fired out some lightning handballs from beneth the packs. Kept Betts and Bower quiet, probably the only thing he did slightly bad was when Saddington chopped off his pass to Rocca, and even that is Saddingtons opponents wrong doing. Took a good mark on the wing and laid some very important sheppards.
Stop bagging him ffs and actually watch him closely next time, im sick of some of you armchair experts bagging players out because of maybe one game you saw them play 20 months ago.
i maybe a biast Clarence supporter (thats where he is from, in case u didnt know)but i think if u watch him closely u will see that he does a lot more than he gets credit for. lay off
Clarence suck, go Glenorchy. But seriously I had high expectations of him, have a look at posts before this game (on the thread about the changes) people were going overboard saying Iles is a dud bla bla bla. I hardly think my statement was tough.
eddiesmith
12 May 2007, 22:15
Medders and Davis in
Iles and Dick out
From there who knows, depends on Willy form and fitness of some others
Presti_is_god
12 May 2007, 22:37
Wakes will be dropped. Whos he gonna play on? a midget?
Wakes will be dropped. Whos he gonna play on? a midget?
He kicked a goal!!! Seriously though that is a good point, we don't want to have no match up for him and be forced to play Wakelin as the decoy forward again. Although I wouldn't be surprised if Presti plays on Johnson (although I think O'Brien would be a great match up for him).
Presti_is_god
12 May 2007, 23:17
He kicked a goal!!! Seriously though that is a good point, we don't want to have no match up for him and be forced to play Wakelin as the decoy forward again. Although I wouldn't be surprised if Presti plays on Johnson (although I think O'Brien would be a great match up for him).
I think Presti will get Darcy as hes our tallest backman by a decent margin. Agree that Harry is a good matchup for Johnson, Clement is also an option is hes back.
WakeUpTaz
12 May 2007, 23:29
i hope clemmy is fine and plays on br.john, but seriousy drop iles, his a dud, didn't really see him today...
Tarkyn_24
12 May 2007, 23:56
would love to see lockyer on mcmahon next week, two very underrated players.
would love to see lockyer on mcmahon next week, two very underrated players.
Where on the ground would they play on each other?
Tarkyn can just stick to his wing, continue becoming the John Stockton of the AFL (Didak will relinguish this title by just kicking four a game) and slotting himself into the 2007 All-Australian squad.
Tarkyn_24
13 May 2007, 00:07
Where on the ground would they play on each other?
Tarkyn can just stick to his wing, continue becoming the John Stockton of the AFL (Didak will relinguish this title by just kicking four a game) and slotting himself into the 2007 All-Australian squad.
tarks half forward, mcmahon half back
Tarkyn can play on who ever he tarkyn well pleases as long as he plays as tarkyn good as he has been playing.
Tarkyn_24
13 May 2007, 00:28
Tarkyn can play on who ever he tarkyn well pleases as long as he plays as tarkyn good as he has been playing.
Tarkyn oath I Tarkyn agree with ya you Tarkyn legend
Dundalis
13 May 2007, 00:41
Clement is out for 3 weeks. It's been said everywhere.
The Royal Sampler
13 May 2007, 00:58
Too early to say, will wait until Willi game and availability of injured players.
In the gun: Iles, Dick (what he's done has been great, just doesn't get enough ATM), Wakes (no obvious matchup), perhaps Toovey but unlikely.
I just want to see at least Davis and Medhurst back in, I think Davis coming back in is pretty much a certainty.
Are any of Licuria, Lonie, etc available yet?
Are any of Licuria, Lonie, etc available yet?
I'd rather see these two come back through Willy and earn their spot in the team.
Although with Licuria being one of Mick's faves, he'll probably come back in straight away.
Lonie (groin) 1-2 weeks
Clement (calf) 1-2 weeks
Licuria (hamstring) 1-2 weeks
Buckley (hamstring) 6 weeks
Rusling (shoulder) 6 weeks
Dawes (knee reco) 6 weeks
Anthony (neck) season
AsianWithAFro
13 May 2007, 09:57
the only player that should be dropped is Illes and either Davis or Medhurst should come in. It's going to be hard for the selectors with Cox, Egan or Goldsack pushing real hard for selection. There also could be a late change with Wakelin. I congratulate him on kicking his 1st goal for us and a fine snap it was lol ;)
Stakerz
13 May 2007, 13:27
Bucks another 6 weeks? :eek:
the only player that should be dropped is Illes and either Davis or Medhurst should come in. It's going to be hard for the selectors with Cox, Egan or Goldsack pushing real hard for selection. There also could be a late change with Wakelin. I congratulate him on kicking his 1st goal for us and a fine snap it was lol ;)
You are joking arent you he played better than dick has in his last 4 games and got more of the ball in half a game than dick did in all his games combined he has tidy skills for the most part and has a bit of pace. He also has been just as good as toovey and cox so i see no reason for dropping him.
magpies42
13 May 2007, 19:04
From the sounds of MM, theres going to be alot more then just those changes.
Id be suprised if at least 1 of these 3 dont get a game;
Goldsack, Nicholls, Cook.
Dont forget we also have to get Cox and Davis back.
why do we have to get cox and davis back? they played well but not that well before suspension
eddiesmith
13 May 2007, 19:13
Davis must come back, got in the best today for Williamstown but is required against the Dogs anyway
Coin_Toss
13 May 2007, 20:45
Out Dick, Iles, Wakelin (omitted)
In Davis, Medhurst, Goldsack
3 changes this week. Leon Davis will return, Goldsack is pushing very hard for selection and deserves an opportunity before his form taperes off and Medhurst will strengthen our goalkicking efficiency in front of the big sticks.
B: B.Johnson, S.Prestigiacomo, H.O'Brien
HB: R.Shaw, N.Maxwell, H.Shaw
C: T.Lockyer, S.Burns, D.Thomas
HF: A.Didak, T.Cloke, A.Toovey
F: C.Bryan, A.Rocca, L.Davis
R: J.Fraser, D.Swan, S.Pendlebury
Int: T.Goldsack, S.O'Bree, B.Holland, P.Medhurst
Lockyer24
13 May 2007, 20:48
Goldsack for Wakelin
Davis for Dick
Medhurst for Iles
Lonie for Toovey maybe
Cox and Medhurst didn't play for Williamstown so I'd bring Davis and Goldsack (BOG Magoos) in for Iles and Wakes
Stakerz
13 May 2007, 20:51
Will Goldsack be needed agasint the Dogs smallish forward line? Or will he play on a Giansiacusa type?
In: Davis, Cox, Goldsack
Out: Dick, Wakelin, Iles
Is my tip.
EMG: Iles, Cook, Wakelin
Cox can play in the backline in Iles' place and Goldsack can be a 3rd tall, CHB, FB, BP, HBF wing he is very flexible.
Jimbeam
13 May 2007, 20:56
what were the dumb things he did, please explain?
he had 14 possesions in about half a game.
used the ball well and fired out some lightning handballs from beneth the packs. Kept Betts and Bower quiet, probably the only thing he did slightly bad was when Saddington chopped off his pass to Rocca, and even that is Saddingtons opponents wrong doing. Took a good mark on the wing and laid some very important sheppards.
Stop bagging him ffs and actually watch him closely next time, im sick of some of you armchair experts bagging players out because of maybe one game you saw them play 20 months ago.
i maybe a biast Clarence supporter (thats where he is from, in case u didnt know)but i think if u watch him closely u will see that he does a lot more than he gets credit for. lay off
I watched him closely and have been for a long time, his disposal has improved but he turned it over way to many times, he cost us goals, which is a problem, he kicked it directly to opposition at least twice, also failed to lay an important tackle on his opponent, who then ran onto kick a goal, also failed to make body contact and cost us another goal, lots of bad decision making. I think he should be dropped. Dogs will kill us if we turn it over like that. He has something but needs more time in the VFL.
Timmy from Thomastown
13 May 2007, 21:09
In Davis
Out Dikk.
Medhurst has been injured too long now, so he will match practice in the VFL. Cox and Egan can learn the hard way what happens when you get dropped for discplinary reasons - that you are no automatic selection to return.
Wakelin to be retained but its line-ball. Cox or Goldsack may replace him.
Stakerz
13 May 2007, 21:38
In Davis
Out Dikk.
Medhurst has been injured too long now, so he will match practice in the VFL. Cox and Egan can learn the hard way what happens when you get dropped for discplinary reasons - that you are no automatic selection to return.
Wakelin to be retained but its line-ball. Cox or Goldsack may replace him.IMO Wakelin won't be needed.
yeah-nah
13 May 2007, 21:56
Goldsack for Wakelin
Davis for Dick
Medhurst for Iles
Lonie for Toovey maybe
Out: Wakelin Di(k
yeah-nah
13 May 2007, 21:57
Goldsack for Wakelin
Davis for Dick
Medhurst for Iles
Lonie for Toovey maybe
Out: Wakelin Di(k
In: Medhurst Leon
AsianWithAFro
13 May 2007, 22:11
Why does everyone want to drop Dick he has a good contributor to our team. Sure needs to put a bit of weight on but there's no reason why he should be dropped. His a handy player in my eyes.
eddiesmith
13 May 2007, 22:15
Why does everyone want to drop Dick he has a good contributor to our team. Sure needs to put a bit of weight on but there's no reason why he should be dropped. His a handy player in my eyes.
Because we have 2 superior players who can play his role to come back in
Therussian
13 May 2007, 22:15
Goldsack for Wakelin
Davis for Dick
Medhurst for Iles
Lonie for Toovey maybe
keep toovs, he's been great
The Royal Sampler
13 May 2007, 22:46
I love Dick, but I think it's time for him to go back to Willi and get his hands on the ball a bit more. I'm not for a minute underselling the quality of his disposal though.
I'd like to see Goldsack come in, we need to reward the players who are performing for Willi.
Davis is in our best 22.
IN: Davis, Goldsack
OUT: Dick, Iles
Invigoration
13 May 2007, 23:08
I love Dick
Im happy for you :)
Stakerz
13 May 2007, 23:35
When will level one tickets go on sale?
eddiesmith
13 May 2007, 23:40
Probably already sold out
Frederlick
14 May 2007, 01:23
Wakes will be dropped. Whos he gonna play on? a midget?
Yes he will play on a midget, seen the Bulldogs forward line? Remember Wakelin was the one taking marks in defence and delivered when sent upfield. Why do you reckon the kids aren't trusted to play lone wolf like Wakes often does? Will be kept in as an insurance policy against 19 year old brain fade until Clement returns.:)
TheClokes
14 May 2007, 08:46
Team against the Footscray
B: R. Shaw - Prestigiacomo - Goldsack
HB: H. Shaw - Clement - O'Brien
C: Johnson - Swan - Holland
HF: Didak - Cloke - Thomas
F: Davis - Rocca - Maxwell
FL: Fraser - Pendlebury - Lockyer
INT: Burns - Iles - O'Bree - Bryan
OUT: Toovey - Dick - Wakelin
jimmy35
14 May 2007, 11:03
Out Dick, Iles, Wakelin (omitted)
In Davis, Medhurst, Goldsack
3 changes this week. Leon Davis will return, Goldsack is pushing very hard for selection and deserves an opportunity before his form taperes off and Medhurst will strengthen our goalkicking efficiency in front of the big sticks.
B: B.Johnson, S.Prestigiacomo, H.O\'Brien
HB: R.Shaw, N.Maxwell, H.Shaw
C: T.Lockyer, S.Burns, D.Thomas
HF: A.Didak, T.Cloke, A.Toovey
F: C.Bryan, A.Rocca, L.Davis
R: J.Fraser, D.Swan, S.Pendlebury
Int: T.Goldsack, S.O\'Bree, B.Holland, P.Medhurst
I agree , Mick seems keen on Goldsack . Leon needs to come back and Wakelin will be unlucky again with match ups .
Timmy from Thomastown
14 May 2007, 11:07
IMO Wakelin won't be needed.
Maybe, maybe not. He'd be a good matchup for Darcy.
Bay Pie
14 May 2007, 11:19
Maybe, maybe not. He'd be a good matchup for Darcy.
This is assuming Jimmy is still not right.
Matchup for Darcy is a concern. If we don't play Wakes, Presti has to play on Darcy, which means Brad Johnson gets Harry O or maybe Nick Maxwell. This may be OK but what if Brad Johnson or Darcy have an 'on' day. We have to have a plan B and use our versatility which has served us so well so far this year.
I think I'd keep Wakes.
IN: Medders, Neon and Goldy.
OUT: Dick, ???, ??? (Even though both ???s played OK last week)
Play Toovey on Gilbee in a negating role.
Invigoration
14 May 2007, 12:14
Do people in these threads post who they 'THINK' will come in, who simply who they 'want' to come in?
Personally I can't see Malty making another 3 changes to a winning team, especially when no-one on the outer is a monty to come in.
Toovey won't go out and I doubt Iles will after one game, especially a reasonable game.
I also don't think both Medders and Davis will come in, in the same week. Medhurst will come through Willy IMO.
Davis wasn't outstanding in his Willy game either, while he was very good against the Crows, I don't think he's a certainty to simply walk back into the squad, but in saying that I hope/believe he will
IN: Neon and maybe Goldy
OUT: Dick and Wakes (match up)
I wouldn't expect more then two changes though personally
Timmy from Thomastown
14 May 2007, 12:18
Dick's gone a bit limp.
I want to see the Sack.
In: Medhurst, Davis
Out: Dick, Iles (unlucky)
We will need Davis' speed in the midfield. Meddy in with Didak will tear their defence apart.
ROWDY26
14 May 2007, 20:23
despite popular demand on this thread and many others, Iles will play this week,
He is a good player, why everyone dislikes him is an absolute joke, he contributes just as much as any other player,
A FEW POINTS TO NOTE:
1. HE IS NOT SLOW, ACTUALLY WOULD BE ONE OF OUR QUICKEST AND FITTEST
2. IT IS NOT HIS FAULT HE MAY HAVE REPLACED WOEY AND THAT HE WAS CHOSEN AHEAD OF CAMPOREALE.
3. HE WEARS NO#37 INCASE THE UNAWARE DIDNT REALISE WHO HE IS.
4. HE IS A BEAUTIFUL USER OF THE FOOTBALL
5. HIS NAME IS SPELT "ILES"
6. HE WAS DRAFTED IN THE PRE-SEASON DRAFT, BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN HE ISNT GOING TO BE AS GOOD AS OUR OTHER DRAFT PICKS
7. AND LAST, HE PLAYS BACKLINE, WHICH MEANS HE PLAYS A DEFENSIVE ROLE ON HIS OPPONENT MOST WEEKS, HE ISNT GOING TO KICK FLASHY GOALS OR TAKE PACK MARKS, HE WILL DO HIS JOB!
Please take particular notice of the next time he plays, be it a willy or collingwood, u will soon change your opinions. i hope
Therussian
16 May 2007, 22:10
despite popular demand on this thread and many others, Iles will play this week,
He is a good player, why everyone dislikes him is an absolute joke, he contributes just as much as any other player,
A FEW POINTS TO NOTE:
1. HE IS NOT SLOW, ACTUALLY WOULD BE ONE OF OUR QUICKEST AND FITTEST
2. IT IS NOT HIS FAULT HE MAY HAVE REPLACED WOEY AND THAT HE WAS CHOSEN AHEAD OF CAMPOREALE.
3. HE WEARS NO#37 INCASE THE UNAWARE DIDNT REALISE WHO HE IS.
4. HE IS A BEAUTIFUL USER OF THE FOOTBALL
5. HIS NAME IS SPELT "ILES"
6. HE WAS DRAFTED IN THE PRE-SEASON DRAFT, BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN HE ISNT GOING TO BE AS GOOD AS OUR OTHER DRAFT PICKS
7. AND LAST, HE PLAYS BACKLINE, WHICH MEANS HE PLAYS A DEFENSIVE ROLE ON HIS OPPONENT MOST WEEKS, HE ISNT GOING TO KICK FLASHY GOALS OR TAKE PACK MARKS, HE WILL DO HIS JOB!
Please take particular notice of the next time he plays, be it a willy or collingwood, u will soon change your opinions. i hope
thanks for posting Mrs Iles, we will support your son from here on in.
ROWDY26
16 May 2007, 22:15
thanks for posting Mrs Iles, we will support your son from here on in.
just a Clarence supporter mate who wants to see one of his own given a fair go with supporters!!:(
FAT DILIBERTO
16 May 2007, 22:17
out toovey,obree,wakelin
in davis,egan and goldsack
Would give Egan a chance eventhough he wasnt crash hot for willi last week.
Medhurst in if fit for Dick.
ROWDY26
16 May 2007, 22:27
Would give Egan a chance eventhough he wasnt crash hot for willi last week.
i dont think crash hot is the word, here's what brad gotch said:
15. Chris Egan
I thought Chris struggled just a little bit, whether or not because he was coming back and his attitude wasn’t completely 100 per cent. He gathered 12 touches.
does not deserve his spot back yet.
despite popular demand on this thread and many others, Iles will play this week,
He is a good player, why everyone dislikes him is an absolute joke, he contributes just as much as any other player,
A FEW POINTS TO NOTE:
1. HE IS NOT SLOW, ACTUALLY WOULD BE ONE OF OUR QUICKEST AND FITTEST
2. IT IS NOT HIS FAULT HE MAY HAVE REPLACED WOEY AND THAT HE WAS CHOSEN AHEAD OF CAMPOREALE.
3. HE WEARS NO#37 INCASE THE UNAWARE DIDNT REALISE WHO HE IS.
4. HE IS A BEAUTIFUL USER OF THE FOOTBALL
5. HIS NAME IS SPELT "ILES"
6. HE WAS DRAFTED IN THE PRE-SEASON DRAFT, BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN HE ISNT GOING TO BE AS GOOD AS OUR OTHER DRAFT PICKS
7. AND LAST, HE PLAYS BACKLINE, WHICH MEANS HE PLAYS A DEFENSIVE ROLE ON HIS OPPONENT MOST WEEKS, HE ISNT GOING TO KICK FLASHY GOALS OR TAKE PACK MARKS, HE WILL DO HIS JOB!
Please take particular notice of the next time he plays, be it a willy or collingwood, u will soon change your opinions. i hope
I agree on every point except 4. He is a sporadic user of the football. One kick will be a good kick to our advantage and the other will be a stone cold turnover.
Tarkyn_24
18 May 2007, 23:36
I agree on every point except 4. He is a sporadic user of the football. One kick will be a good kick to our advantage and the other will be a stone cold turnover.
Lockyer 2004-2006?
Lockyer 2004-2006?
Lockyer has always been a pretty good kick and not much of a turnover merchant. He was a slow user of the ball and never moved in on quickly enough which meant kicking to contests.
eddiesmith
19 May 2007, 16:50
Shocking selection sending Medders to Willy, should be an automatic inclusion when fit
Stakerz
19 May 2007, 17:58
Shocking selection sending Medders to Willy, should be an automatic inclusion when fitSo Medders won't play tomorrow?
Did he play good?
No last minute changes, teams as selected.
For the last time Medhurst had not played in weeks and was not match fit.. absolutely had to come back through Williamstown and only got 1 goal and was not among the best.. good decision.. cannot afford the Bulldogs running off him
eddiesmith
20 May 2007, 21:02
Yeah it was a wonderful decision :rolleyes:
Even if not match fit,still an option up there something we didnt have in the 2nd half