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Blue and Gold Blood
13 May 2007, 15:55
IN: Cox, Embley, Sampi, Fletcher
OUT: Priddis, Le Cras, Brown, Hurn.

Priddis - too many turnovers when not under pressure. Bombing it long is for the WAFL

Le Cras - one game wonder. Doesnt work hard enough in forward line. When he does get a shot at goal he misses far too often.

Brown: Straight swap for Cox

Hurn: Goes missing for long periods of the game. Welcome back fletcher.

BadSeed
13 May 2007, 16:04
Id be taking out armstrong before hurn.. hes been woeful all season in front of goals.. sampi to easily replace him.

Blue and Gold Blood
13 May 2007, 16:05
Thank god for Wirra. Stopped us from completely embarassing ourselves.

Embers
13 May 2007, 16:07
IN: Cox, Embley, Morton, Fletcher
OUT: Hurn Seaby Armstrong LeCras

Seaby has been pathetic today. Just lazy is the word. Hasnt raised a sweat. Send him a message. If he wants a spot work hard and run. :thumbsd:

Max zero
13 May 2007, 16:10
IN: Cox, Embley, Morton, Fletcher
OUT: Hurn Seaby Armstrong LeCras

Seaby has been pathetic today. Just lazy is the word. Hasnt raised a sweat. Send him a message. If he wants a spot work hard and run. :thumbsd:

Armstrong for sure. Cost us 3 goals late in the third. Would be 20 points down instead of 38 going into the last.

Seaby better start thinking about signing that contract if thats the performance he is planning on dishing up.

Audacious
13 May 2007, 16:21
What were we all saying about not needing Cousins? I dont care how skillful or exciting Kerr and Judd can be at their best. We missed Cousins hard running and leading from the front today. On field leadership is seriously undervalued, as evidenced today when it looked like no-one would step up.

Looked very vulnerable.

EasternHills
13 May 2007, 16:27
What were we all saying about not needing Cousins? I dont care how skillful or exciting Kerr and Judd can be at their best. We missed Cousins hard running and leading from the front today. On field leadership is seriously undervalued, as evidenced today when it looked like no-one would step up.

Looked very vulnerable.

I think we missed Cox and Embleys height. Cousins was missed, you can cap Judd or Kerr but not two at once, Cousins run and Embleys height and goal kicking ability hurt West Coast.

Well we had to lose one and thats one i think we expected to be a possible loss.

Ted Ed Fred
13 May 2007, 16:28
IN: Cox, Embley, Sampi, Fletcher
OUT: Brown, Rosa, Armstrong, Le Cras

Last year Fletcher suffered because there wasn't room for him in the midfield. Well today we couldn't get a clearance to save ourselves, bring him back and let him do what he does best.

The ball also rebounded far too easily out of our F50 in the first half. Bring Sampi back, we need some better defensive pressure in our F50, as well as some flair.

BadSeed
13 May 2007, 16:32
In - Cox, Morton, Fletcher and Sampi *Depending on embleys fitness etc.
Out - Brown, Armstrong, Priddis, Le Cras


I just hope that kerr finds his form back.. he was so awesome those first few rounds... now hes just struggling only 10 disposals today, ling shut him down completely and managed a handy 20 for himself.

beatlesmith
13 May 2007, 16:37
IN: Cox, Embley, Morton, Fletcher
OUT: Hurn Seaby Armstrong LeCras

Seaby has been pathetic today. Just lazy is the word. Hasnt raised a sweat. Send him a message. If he wants a spot work hard and run. :thumbsd:

Agree entirely. He wasn't chasing and was providing no resistance in the ruck. Also noticed that Bones was also bad today, not sticking on his players, turning it over and giving the ball to players who had players on their heels. Morton has earned a recall and sampi is probably 1 good game away. If Cox plays while sore or unfit, Seaby would have to play but otherwise he should be dropped.

nibbles
13 May 2007, 16:40
pending injuries, i wouldn't change this team too much

only a handful of players gave an accurate account of themselves today, so we can't just be swinging the axe too hastily on everyone who was below par

i'm still fuming from the performance as a whole - so it would be unwise for me to start pointing the finger right now - but if cox and embley are fit they would be automatic, fletcher may sneak in i think too

agreed about seaby, that was really, really bad - but we need two rucks, no question

possible outs: brown, le cras and priddis or rosa

QL 21
13 May 2007, 16:40
Agree entirely. He wasn't chasing and was providing no resistance in the ruck. Also noticed that Bones was also bad today, not sticking on his players, turning it over and giving the ball to players who had players on their heels. Morton has earned a recall and sampi is probably 1 good game away. If Cox plays while sore or unfit, Seaby would have to play but otherwise he should be dropped.

Then who will back up Cox? FFS, don't people understand how important it is to have 2 ruckman?

Juddy88
13 May 2007, 16:49
WHat a joke do people actually have any sense?
ONE loss and you want to axe four players for the next match?
Drop Seaby? pfft, so what just have Cox in the ruck all game or put Lynch in there and sacrfice that position for a period or time? Seaby is always going to do better than Lynch and you need two ruckmen, i think people have selctive memory, like when Seaby stood in for Cox when he had a broken collarbone.. he was awesome in that time.
Or the game against Sydney in round 1 where he beat Everitt convincingly
There will probably be 2 maybe 3 changes IMO

Give Seaby a chance

It's only 1 loss

nibbles
13 May 2007, 16:51
Then who will back up Cox? FFS, don't people understand how important it is to have 2 ruckman?

exactly

if today showed us anything, its the importance of having two ruckmen, especially when travelling to a ground like skilled where they have an abundance of tall timber - we just couldn't cover them today or get first use of the ball...

we got pwn3d - big deal, we're still favourites for the premiership :thumbsu:

Kernel Sanders
13 May 2007, 16:53
In: Heart, willingness to put the body in, in the centre, mongrel in the ruck

Out: Hospital handballs to someone in a worse position & Seaby to go to church and repent for that performance.


Out: LeCras & Brown
In: Fletch & Spandaxman (Embley & Cox still injured?)

Prem87
13 May 2007, 16:53
IN: Cox Fletcher Sampi
OUT: Armstrong, Lecras, Hurn

Im still not sure if Embley will be ok this week, hes reported to have been having some groin problems. Our Forward line was crap. We are still not entering our forward line effciently and they are not leading properly which is a worry. We've had this problem for a long time and still havent seemed to sort it out.

Lion El'Johnson
13 May 2007, 16:57
Cox was just a massive miss really. We shouldn't be using Lynch in the ruck. We lost this game in the ruck from the start. Smashed in the clearances. It didn't help that Seaby had a shocking day either.

Honestly, I think le cras has to go. We have the depth, someone has to be dropped to show that they're playing for a spot in the team.

larrikin
13 May 2007, 16:57
In: Heart, willingness to put the body in, in the centre, mongrel in the ruck

Out: Hospital handballs to someone in a worse position & Seaby to go to church and repent for that performance.


Out: LeCras & Brown
In: Fletch & Spandaxman (Embley & Cox still injured?)
Spandemann can't come in, he's a rookie. We have no one on the long term injured list.

What today did highlight is how much we need Cox.

Lynch takes a mark
13 May 2007, 16:58
Hurn was one of our best today, given his limited game time and then time in defence.

Out: LeCras, Armstrong
In: Morton, Sampi

I don't see cox & Emlbey being fit and the two 'outs' were both no good regardless of delivery into the forward line.

Arcadion
13 May 2007, 16:58
IN: Cox Fletcher Sampi
OUT: Armstrong, Lecras, Hurn

Im still not sure if Embley will be ok this week, hes reported to have been having some groin problems. Our Forward line was crap. We are still not entering our forward line effciently and they are not leading properly which is a worry. We've had this problem for a long time and still havent seemed to sort it out.
Forward line wasn't the problem today. Scarlett just too good for Lynch (who was all over the ground anyway) Poor turnovers. Seaby had a bad day but we do need him. I agree with your changes though, Embley in for Sideshow Priddis if ready. Where the hell is Nicoski???

Kernel Sanders
13 May 2007, 16:59
Spandemann can't come in, he's a rookie. We have no one on the long term injured list.

What today did highlight is how much we need Cox.
Cousins would qualify for that wouldn't he?

larrikin
13 May 2007, 17:02
Cousins would qualify for that wouldn't he?
Good point. Not sure if he's been placed on it though....

TheBigUnit
13 May 2007, 17:04
IN: Embley, Cox, Sampi
OUT: Brown, Le Cras, Hurn (He's great when he's got it, but MIA too often)

Embley and Cox if fit will slot straight back in.

Sampi for Le Cras is a must. We could do with someone like Sampi who applies good defensive pressure in the forward line.

We can't drop Seaby unless Cox is 100% fit, too big a risk.

I'd like to see Morton get a go, but can't find anyone to drop for him (maybe Army, but that would be a bit harsh after 1 bad game).

RhEF JC
13 May 2007, 17:04
Hurn was one of our best today, given his limited game time and then time in defence.

Out: LeCras, Armstrong
In: Morton, Sampi

I don't see cox & Emlbey being fit and the two 'outs' were both no good regardless of delivery into the forward line.

Agree. Probably an unneccessarily high proportion of my posts are singing Hurn's praises, but I can't believe how many people are calling for him to be dropped. He rarely lost his head when everyone around him (in a blue and gold jumper) were losing their's. And he goes in and out of games because he's being made to play a defensive role. I could name 10 that deserved to be dropped ahead of him based entirely on today's performance

Kernel Sanders
13 May 2007, 17:05
We got bashed in the middle. Started with Seaby and Ottens pulling the game of his career out of his a$$. From there, we couldn't get hands on the ball and we were no hope.

Maybe our mids are used to getting the ball on a platter all the time?

Kerr had a very average game. Judd tried to break toooooo many tackles, especially with 10 x players pouncing on him at every opportunity.

With the mids getting smashed, forwards & backline had no hope.

All is not as bad as it seems, this will reignite the passion again.

Prem87
13 May 2007, 17:07
How was Rojo?

frothingworthywaters
13 May 2007, 17:09
IN: Cox, Embley, Fletcher

OUT: Brown, LeCras, Hurn


Cox straight swap with the youngster, Embley replacing LeCras and Fletcher in to give Hurn more game time with Peel.

sdb4884
13 May 2007, 17:10
>
Armstrong
Staker
LeCras
Seaby?

<
Embley
Cox
Fletcher
Morton?
Sampi?
McKenzie?

I think that Mitch Brown deserves another go and was good when he got it. Seaby was really awful today and hopefully with Cox back and should be a straight swap. Armstrong was very disappointing and doesnt convert his chances enough. Morton and Sampi are obvious options to replace him. LeCras again has failed to really do enough after been handy the previous week.

sdb4884
13 May 2007, 17:12
IN: Cox, Embley, Sampi, Fletcher
OUT: Priddis, Le Cras, Brown, Hurn.

Priddis - too many turnovers when not under pressure. Bombing it long is for the WAFL

Le Cras - one game wonder. Doesnt work hard enough in forward line. When he does get a shot at goal he misses far too often.

Brown: Straight swap for Cox

Hurn: Goes missing for long periods of the game. Welcome back fletcher.

Drop Priddis are you funking crazy?
Brown should be there and Hurn is good enough.

larrikin
13 May 2007, 17:12
There's another thread on this

Biggie
13 May 2007, 17:13
Embley in for Lecras.

Cox (if fit) for Brown.

Fletcher still on the outer unless Embers is long term injured.

Otherwise just a down game, no need for sweeping changes.

Kernel Sanders
13 May 2007, 17:13
Hopefully Butler isn't too far away either... 2 - 4 weeks?

sdb4884
13 May 2007, 17:15
Embley in for Lecras.

Cox (if fit) for Brown.

Fletcher still on the outer unless Embers is long term injured.

Otherwise just a down game, no need for sweeping changes.

Messages need to be sent to our various passengers today don't you think?

frothingworthywaters
13 May 2007, 17:15
Hopefully Butler isn't too far away either... 2 - 4 weeks?
does butler fit in if Fletcher cant?

Kernel Sanders
13 May 2007, 17:19
does butler fit in if Fletcher cant?
Butler was / is a greater player than Fletch. Fletch has been poor for a long time (close to 2 x years). Only redemeed himself in the GF.

When fully match fit, no question in my mind, Rosa out and Butler in.

Biggie
13 May 2007, 17:19
Messages need to be sent to our various passengers today don't you think?

After that loss I would say most players would realise that they arent unstoppable.

They wont tinker with the side too much I would think.

Embers
13 May 2007, 17:19
If Sampi gets a game ahead of Morton ill literally projectile vomit all over my floor. Its just not gonna happen and there is a good reason for it too.

Bit hasty on my dropping of Seaby. He gets one last chance. I hope he gets his pen to that contract quick cos it might drop a whole lot after today

IN: Cox Embers Morton
OUT: Armstrong LeCras Brown

Cuzz09
13 May 2007, 17:20
How far away is Nico??

Melbourne looking ok against the Doggies at the Dome so it wont be an easy game next week.

Probably good that we had this loss - Put a few egos back in check.

I thought that big Lynchy gave us something in the ruck today plus Scarlett killed him down back - but what was with our skills?? Was it just Geelongs pressure or are the boys a bit tired after 6 weeks of hard running footy??

We need to bounce back next week against the Dees and then against Hawks in Tassie!!

sdb4884
13 May 2007, 17:20
Butler was / is a greater player than Fletch. Fletch has been poor for a long time (close to 2 x years). Only redemeed himself in the GF.

When fully match fit, no question in my mind, Rosa out and Butler in.

Im sorry Rosa is in our best 22 and was good today.

nibbles
13 May 2007, 17:20
How was Rojo?

rojo was good premmie... he can hold his head up high

i also can't believe the calls for hurn to be dropped, he has maturity, composure and skill beyond his years - priddis and rosa would do well to take a leaf out of his book in many instances...

i have said before that hurn is rapidly becoming one of my favourite players, and he didn't take a backward step today in my eyes - being shifted to all parts of the ground like he is can be a big ask of a 19 year old, and he continues to grow every week

Biggie
13 May 2007, 17:21
Hopefully Butler isn't too far away either... 2 - 4 weeks?

From the Sunday times today Butler was the hardest working mid in the massive loss to SF.

Would be a handy inclusion in the run towards September.

tweece
13 May 2007, 17:22
I really do not know why everyone is calling for Sideshow priddis's head. 25 possesions and a goal, he worked hard all day. Same with rosa who racked in 28, without those two blokes we would have lost be a lot more. These blokes are young the only way they are going to become high quality disposal midfielders is game time under pressure.

Rowan jones was horrible today, 10 possesions and those 10 were all cheapies in the first half when he was all on his own. If we took a vote you must have to say that fletch is better than ro jo. Army needs to go down as well to simply get some bloody touch back he cant seem to do a thing.

IN: cox, fletcher, sampi, embers
OUT: brown, army, rojo, le cras

larrikin
13 May 2007, 17:25
How far away is Nico??


He's still not doing full contact training - I'd think at least a month away

Embers
13 May 2007, 17:28
I repeat Sampi is still not ready for AFL footy. He aint playing next week

Embers
13 May 2007, 17:28
He's still not doing full contact training - I'd think at least a month away

Its normally 2 weeks of full contact training then play. Think he will be brought in about Round 12 or so.

Independent Observer
13 May 2007, 17:29
What were we all saying about not needing Cousins? I dont care how skillful or exciting Kerr and Judd can be at their best. We missed Cousins hard running and leading from the front today. On field leadership is seriously undervalued, as evidenced today when it looked like no-one would step up.
Looked very vulnerable.

I thought Judd stepped up again today.

What West Coast need is a classy finisher at the feet of a contest. Armstrong is a tryer and gets to the right spots, his finishing is a little scruffy.

One word, Morton.

Was exceptional today and Im sure would have finished two of the oppurtunities Armstrong squandered.

Seaby was also poor today and Spandermann, I watched a replay of the game today was superb.

Something to think about.

nibbles
13 May 2007, 17:38
Seaby was also poor today and Spandermann, I watched a replay of the game today was superb.


spaanderman is a rookie - yes he is something to think about but that's it, he can't play unless we have a long term injury (touch wood)

i like the boy - some people are annoyed that we picked him up, not me - a 20 year old high draft pick that can play ruck and KP is a good pick in my books, and we're paying him nix on the rookie list

aza80
13 May 2007, 17:51
how good was chick today? chased all day and applied pressure at all times. i thought we missed embley's versatility today. the boys down back cant be blamed for this loss when geelong were prancing down the corridor off their half back line and just waiting for leads. our midfielders and forwards were poor. not the end of the world, but i hope we bounce back into good form next week.

and if seaby wants more moolah he will have to put more of himself into the game, he looked pedestrian today.

Prem87
13 May 2007, 17:56
We're missing a quality midfielder. We have to wait for butler to comeback. Bring in Fletcher.

MAG87
13 May 2007, 18:09
in: cox embley fletcher sampi
out: priddis, armstrong, brown, lecras

reason for priddis is because everytime he manages to get the ball the just kicks it without looking. yes i know fletcher has done that similarly but we need a bit of experience to go for the flag again.

MAG87
13 May 2007, 18:10
spaanderman is a rookie - yes he is something to think about but that's it, he can't play unless we have a long term injury (touch wood)

i like the boy - some people are annoyed that we picked him up, not me - a 20 year old high draft pick that can play ruck and KP is a good pick in my books, and we're paying him nix on the rookie list

i agree nibbles. i know spaanderman personally, he had a few personal issues over time but now hes getting himself into good shape. i hope he is elevated into the senior list next season.

sydney eagle
13 May 2007, 18:15
Rosa was pretty good. Ran hard, tackled well, kicked goals. The only "downside" that I see to his game is the high, floating kicks that he does. Priddis also has trouble with his kicking (seems to bomb rather than pass and also kicks the ball rather high) but both of them are showing steady iomprovement.

nibbles
13 May 2007, 18:23
Rosa was pretty good. Ran hard, tackled well, kicked goals. The only "downside" that I see to his game is the high, floating kicks that he does. Priddis also has trouble with his kicking (seems to bomb rather than pass and also kicks the ball rather high) but both of them are showing steady iomprovement.

very true

i guess we can all take some comfort in the fact that we have given some valuable time to rosa, priddis, hurn and even le cras and brown - and still have a 6-1 record

we are all the better for it in the long run

EagleMan87
13 May 2007, 18:28
Jeez, listen to all the wowsers! Everyone calling for 4+ changes must be the old blokes at the footy who boo West Coast players if they make a mistake...:rolleyes:

IN: Cox(if fit), Morton
Out: Brown, LeCras

Seaby and Armstrong have had one bad game, that doesn't warrant being dropped. Every other game they've had has been top notch so far.

Hell, let's drop Kerr while we're at it, he's had two bad game in a row.

And how the hell can anyone wanna drop Priddis?! He was a shining light for us today, never stopped running and was great in the stoppages.

Last week Rosa was everyone's favourite to be dropped for this game and he was one of our best players today. Players have bad games, just as the team does, so get the f**k over it and shut the hell up.

Two changes, max.

West Coast 06
13 May 2007, 21:12
Jeez, listen to all the wowsers! Everyone calling for 4+ changes must be the old blokes at the footy who boo West Coast players if they make a mistake...:rolleyes:

IN: Cox(if fit), Morton
Out: Brown, LeCras

Seaby and Armstrong have had one bad game, that doesn't warrant being dropped. Every other game they've had has been top notch so far.

Hell, let's drop Kerr while we're at it, he's had two bad game in a row.

And how the hell can anyone wanna drop Priddis?! He was a shining light for us today, never stopped running and was great in the stoppages.

Last week Rosa was everyone's favourite to be dropped for this game and he was one of our best players today. Players have bad games, just as the team does, so get the f**k over it and shut the hell up.

Two changes, max.Geez, at least someone on here is talking sense!

I agree with your changes and your sentiment!

How are people calling for the likes of Priddis and Hurn to be dropped?

Very strange day today as far as the positions players were playing at times. We got smashed in the clearances, very unusual for us. Just put it down as a bad day, learn what you can from it and bring on next week.

TheBigUnit
13 May 2007, 22:00
How much game time has Hurn been getting this season?

EagleMan87
13 May 2007, 22:03
How much game time has Hurn been getting this season?

Around about 70%, he's been in different positions a lot though, hard to get used to sometimes...

GoOsH1
13 May 2007, 22:19
We can all see te potential in Hurn, when he gets his hands on the footy he uses it brilliantly, however I just think he's not getting enough of it at this point to warrant continued inclusion, 11 possies today, and averaging 12 for the season, which isn't really enough in my book. When butler and Nico are back I think he may have to make way.

GoOsH1
13 May 2007, 22:26
i agree nibbles. i know spaanderman personally, he had a few personal issues over time but now hes getting himself into good shape. i hope he is elevated into the senior list next season.
agreed, it's clear that he's really matured this year, the eagles recruiters obviously saw that in the preseason. it would be great to see him prove alot of people wrong. He'll need to keep the form he's shown in the last month going for the rest of the season before he will be considered for the main list though.

SIR SAINT HOTDOG
13 May 2007, 22:42
It is a joke that people think Priddis should be dropped. He is avergaing more than 20 disposals a game and for his amount of gametime that is amazing. You guys will most likely win the flag so there is no need for any concern yet. If there are any players under consideration to be dropped it would have to be Le Cras and Armstrong. Definately not priddis, he is a star.

West Coast 06
13 May 2007, 22:42
We can all see te potential in Hurn, when he gets his hands on the footy he uses it brilliantly, however I just think he's not getting enough of it at this point to warrant continued inclusion, 11 possies today, and averaging 12 for the season, which isn't really enough in my book. When butler and Nico are back I think he may have to make way.
Butler and Nicoski are probably both a month away. When they do come back do you expect them to slip straight in and have an immediate impact?

It will be almost a year since Nicoski has played at AFL level, he is not just going to pick up where he left off.

Hurn has been great this season and coming on in leaps and bounds. At least when he kicks the ball 95% of the time it hits the target on the chest, not a floater like Priddis and Rosa are kicking.(Not that I want them axed either.)

Liam#9
13 May 2007, 22:56
How can people be saying to drop Priddis, last week everyone was praising what a star he is, now everyone wants him dropped? Keep him playing because hes playing well and will continue to improve, and besides, they cant drop him, hes in my dreamteam

Tizza
13 May 2007, 22:59
it was fair effort today, skilled is a tough place to play..thank god we dont have to play final there :mad:

Considering we are missing Embley Cox Nicoiski Butler and cousins to be 6-1 is bloody awesone effort

Juddy88
13 May 2007, 23:09
Jeez, listen to all the wowsers! Everyone calling for 4+ changes must be the old blokes at the footy who boo West Coast players if they make a mistake...:rolleyes:

IN: Cox(if fit), Morton
Out: Brown, LeCras

Seaby and Armstrong have had one bad game, that doesn't warrant being dropped. Every other game they've had has been top notch so far.

Hell, let's drop Kerr while we're at it, he's had two bad game in a row.

And how the hell can anyone wanna drop Priddis?! He was a shining light for us today, never stopped running and was great in the stoppages.

Last week Rosa was everyone's favourite to be dropped for this game and he was one of our best players today. Players have bad games, just as the team does, so get the f**k over it and shut the hell up.

Two changes, max.


EXACTLY

i said two maybe three changes. I meant that as in if Cox and Embers are fit, that's two. Then maybe one more.
They won't drop army and i can't believe people are saying drop Pridds

Lion El'Johnson
13 May 2007, 23:13
How good was Hurns goal from 50. I'd keep him in the side just for that.

Ricky Bobby
13 May 2007, 23:19
In: Cox, Embley, Fletcher (providing they are all fit)
Out: Le Cras, Brown, Armstrong.

Not that these three players are playing that bad its just that the three inclusions are that good. Wouldnt mind seeing Sampi get a run just to see where he is at. We all know he has the talent just hopefully the dedication is there now.

hank_Bulger99
13 May 2007, 23:25
How good was Hurns goal from 50. I'd keep him in the side just for that.

1 kick a game cant justify selection. it is not gridiron

Scotland
13 May 2007, 23:31
I don't think there's any real need for a baby and bathwater thread when we are 6-1 and percentage off holding top spot while most sides are 3-4 or 4-3.

Cox will come back if he's fully fit, and Brown will go out. LeCras hasn't shown much in his 2 games, he is first on the block if Embley/Fletcher are brought back in. The likelihood of us making 4 or 5 changes in one week based on one result is very slim.

Lion El'Johnson
13 May 2007, 23:31
1 kick a game cant justify selection. it is not gridiron

My dear god you took that seriously. Lighten up. Although to your credit, perhaps I should have ended it with a ' :D ' smilie.

Eagle_boy
13 May 2007, 23:36
Yeah it was a very ordinary performance. I agree with others on Priddis...it was only last week he kicked 3 goals and we were heralding him as a superstar.

I thought Staker was shocking today, if Graham was fit he would walk into the side IMHO.

Cox for Staker (if fit)
Sampi for LeCras

Big Cox
14 May 2007, 00:06
it was fair effort today, skilled is a tough place to play..thank god we dont have to play final there :mad:

Considering we are missing Embley Cox Nicoiski Butler and cousins to be 6-1 is bloody awesone effort

It was a fair effort. Fairly crap effort.

Armstrong and LeCras offer nothing. Send em to the WAFL

Keyser Soze
14 May 2007, 02:47
I don't think there's any real need for a baby and bathwater thread when we are 6-1 and percentage off holding top spot while most sides are 3-4 or 4-3.

Cox will come back if he's fully fit, and Brown will go out. LeCras hasn't shown much in his 2 games, he is first on the block if Embley/Fletcher are brought back in. The likelihood of us making 4 or 5 changes in one week based on one result is very slim.


Spot on.

Cox and Embley will obviously came back in if fit replacing Brown and LeCras who were brought in due to injuries to those players.

Fletcher didn't get another chance to press for selection this week with Subi having the bye and I don't know who he'd replace - Hurn, Rosa, Priddis, Armstrong have done enough so far to keep their spots. Maybe if Embley is still out, Fletch can come in for LeCras (one week too late perhaps?)

Sampi and Morton probably still need one or two more good games in the WAFL to force their way in.

BK Eaglesfan
14 May 2007, 08:00
Jeez, listen to all the wowsers! Everyone calling for 4+ changes must be the old blokes at the footy who boo West Coast players if they make a mistake...:rolleyes:

IN: Cox(if fit), Morton
Out: Brown, LeCras

Seaby and Armstrong have had one bad game, that doesn't warrant being dropped. Every other game they've had has been top notch so far.

Hell, let's drop Kerr while we're at it, he's had two bad game in a row.

And how the hell can anyone wanna drop Priddis?! He was a shining light for us today, never stopped running and was great in the stoppages.

Last week Rosa was everyone's favourite to be dropped for this game and he was one of our best players today. Players have bad games, just as the team does, so get the f**k over it and shut the hell up.

Two changes, max.

Spot on......many of us have been raving about Seaby and how good he has been when he has to step up and take on the #1 role, telling opposition fans he is the best back up big man in the league. He had a shocker yesterday, is he now no good?

Army has mostly been receiving rave reviews as well. OK, so again he wasn't great yesterday. Why do I suspect Army is this team's old Rowan Jones, or our version of James Walker? The minute we lose a game we all go racing to the stats sheet to see if we can hang Army. He's been good all year, and I'd take him over a half fit Sampi any day. For those reacting badly to the loss, and suggesting some of the changes being thrown up, go back and have another read of the WAFL performances threads.

mick ryan
14 May 2007, 09:21
One loss and press the panic button, I cant believe some of the changes proposed. They could leave the side as it is and still win by at least five next week.

banana_bus
14 May 2007, 12:06
One loss and press the panic button, I cant believe some of the changes proposed. They could leave the side as it is and still win by at least five next week.

One loss, and you guys are starting to sound like the richmond board!

Seriously, Priddis has been amazing. The people that are calling for him to be dropped, i hope one day you guys become the selection committee at West Coast, cos ill tell you what, you would never choose a winning side.

Only changes you guys need to make this week are if Embley and Cox are fit. Thats it.

IN: Cox, Embley
OUT: Brown, Le Cras

BadSeed
14 May 2007, 12:10
One loss, and you guys are starting to sound like the richmond board!

Seriously, Priddis has been amazing. The people that are calling for him to be dropped, i hope one day you guys become the selection committee at West Coast, cos ill tell you what, you would never choose a winning side.

Only changes you guys need to make this week are if Embley and Cox are fit. Thats it.

IN: Cox, Embley
OUT: Brown, Le Cras
Its not a case of wether priddis is getting the ball... its what hes doing with it when hes got it..

ie: numourous poor handpasses to team mates, putting them under more pressure or just basically throwing the ball away. Getting the ball and just throwing it to boot to have it marked by a Geelong player in the clear so they can rebound quickly... turnovers often hurt a team.

banana_bus
14 May 2007, 12:21
Its not a case of wether priddis is getting the ball... its what hes doing with it when hes got it..

ie: numourous poor handpasses to team mates, putting them under more pressure or just basically throwing the ball away. Getting the ball and just throwing it to boot to have it marked by a Geelong player in the clear so they can rebound quickly... turnovers often hurt a team.

hes played 9 games? ever thought that this may be erased with time and confidence? nar lets just throw him back to the wafl, thatll do him the world of good...:rolleyes:

EagleMan87
14 May 2007, 13:15
hes played 9 games? ever thought that this may be erased with time and confidence? nar lets just throw him back to the wafl, thatll do him the world of good...:rolleyes:

:D

Yeah, let's do the same with Armstrong too.

And Kerr.

And Seaby.

And Staker.

Brown, LeCras, Hunter.

None of them deserve spots after that performance...In fact, sack the coach while we're at it:rolleyes: :D

Evil-Eagle
14 May 2007, 14:41
Embley has already been ruled out with a knee injury. Cox will return though

IN: Cox Morton Fletcher
OUT: Brown LeCras Armstrong.

BadSeed
14 May 2007, 14:55
hes played 9 games? ever thought that this may be erased with time and confidence? nar lets just throw him back to the wafl, thatll do him the world of good...:rolleyes:

Can he not improve disposal in the WAFL? Im sure if he played he would be tagged... providing more pressure(ie: not being tagged atm in afl), although opposition might not be up to scratch, still the pressure and his decision making may improve.

EagleMan87
14 May 2007, 14:59
Can he not improve disposal in the WAFL? Im sure if he played he would be tagged... providing more pressure(ie: not being tagged atm in afl), although opposition might not be up to scratch, still the pressure and his decision making may improve.

He's been in the WAFL for years and his disposal/decision making there is top-notch.

It's the pressure of AFL games that make him stuff up, and he can only improve by playing more AFL games:thumbsu:

Alphanumeric
14 May 2007, 15:42
In - Fletcher, Cox, Embley
Out- Brown, LeCras, Hurn.

Rosa had 29 touches so you can't drop him and Priddis had 25. Armstrong has been great up until this week.

We lost one game, you cant be dropping blokes cause they had a bad day.

I know one player we miss though.........B Cousins. Last year if Kerr was held to 10 touches, Cuz would have picked up the slack. That was the benefit of having Judd, Kerr, Cousins and Fletcher in the side. You could stop 1, maybe 2, but the other 3 are still good enough to cause damage.

sdb4884
14 May 2007, 16:23
After I have cooled down a bit now. I think that Armstrong is safe for next week.

In:
Cox
Embley
Fletcher
Out:
LeCras
Seaby
Staker

I prefer Mitch Brown to Staker. If Embley misses again than McKenzie should be given a run to see how he goes against the 15th team.

EagleMan87
14 May 2007, 16:26
After I have cooled down a bit now. I think that Armstrong is safe for next week.

In:
Cox
Embley
Fletcher
Out:
LeCras
Seaby
Staker

I prefer Mitch Brown to Staker.

Brown was beaten too you know. Plus this is Staker's only bad game for the year so far, I think he deserves his spot.

sdb4884
14 May 2007, 16:28
Brown actually looks like a AFL player that will go somewhere.

pistol17
14 May 2007, 16:29
Priddis out??? Are you mad?

EagleMan87
14 May 2007, 16:32
Brown actually looks like a AFL player that will go somewhere.

He will, yes, but he's still only 18.

Give him time before he starts to take established player's spots, he's still learning.

sdb4884
14 May 2007, 16:36
Priddis out??? Are you mad?

Yeah I don't know who would suggest that.

EagleMan87
14 May 2007, 16:46
Yeah I don't know who would suggest that.

Blue And Gold Blood did for one. Bandwagoning troll is all he is...

Embers
14 May 2007, 16:54
Armstrong is gooone I think. 2 poor weeks. His kicking just aint good enough especially since hes supposed to be a forward.

eagleskickass
14 May 2007, 16:54
He's been in the WAFL for years and his disposal/decision making there is top-notch.

It's the pressure of AFL games that make him stuff up, and he can only improve by playing more AFL games:thumbsu:

Spot On!

Also, on Seaby, I think you will find he copped a hard knock on the buttocks early on and wasn't fully fit there after.

Seaby has been SENSATIONAL this year, rucking a heck of a lot more than normal (as Cox has been struggling fitness wise). If Seaby should be dropped after one game then Kerr should too! And NO ONE would say (and rightly so) that Kerr should be dropped.

Yes, Seaby had a SHOCKER...EVERYONE does occassionally.

Embers
14 May 2007, 16:55
He had a shocker of a shocker though. I cant remember a Eagles player being that awful in a looong time.

QL 21
14 May 2007, 16:58
Unfortunately for Armstrong, Morton and Sampi are ready to go, that's why he might be in trouble.

EagleMan87
14 May 2007, 17:08
Armstrong is gooone I think. 2 poor weeks. His kicking just aint good enough especially since hes supposed to be a forward.

He had a shocker of a shocker though. I cant remember a Eagles player being that awful in a looong time.

You're an idiot...:thumbsd:

westcoast wizard
14 May 2007, 17:10
Why is every one calling for Rosa and Priddis to be dropped? They were two of our best along with Judd Waters and Wirra

Rosa and Priddis had 53 touches and 3 goals between them. We are not going to win every game. The cats were too good and we kick too many behinds.

pistol17
14 May 2007, 17:13
If Embley fit.

Out: LeCras, Armstrong
In: Embley, Fletcher

Embers
14 May 2007, 17:16
If Embley fit.

Out: LeCras, Armstrong
In: Embley, Fletcher

Embleys been pretty much ruled out already. What about Dean Cox?

EagleMan87
14 May 2007, 17:28
If Embley fit.

Out: LeCras, Armstrong
In: Embley, Fletcher

Heh, come on, you say Woosha stuffed up by playing Seaby in the forwardline and Lynch in the ruck.

Two midfielders for two forwards doesn't work(we'd have 8 pure midfielders in that team, not to mention Selwood, Hurn and Waters:eek: )

Plus this was Armstrong's only bad game for us to date, and he only made a few stupid mistakes so no way in hell will he be dropped.

IN: Cox, Morton
OUT: Brown, LeCras

eagleskickass
14 May 2007, 17:43
i'm not sure whether it was Woosha stuffing up or if his hand was forced...not convinced Seaby was entirely fit.

GoOsH1
14 May 2007, 21:15
Butler and Nicoski are probably both a month away. When they do come back do you expect them to slip straight in and have an immediate impact?

I'd expect them to get more than 12 possies a game.

It will be almost a year since Nicoski has played at AFL level, he is not just going to pick up where he left off.

he will probably get a week or 2 in the WAFL (obviously), and no, he won't just pick up where he left off, but when he is back up to speed he gets the ball a lot more than hurn does at the moment

Hurn has been great this season and coming on in leaps and bounds. At least when he kicks the ball 95% of the time it hits the target on the chest, not a floater like Priddis and Rosa are kicking.(Not that I want them axed either.)
No one is questioning his kicking, it's simply the amount of times he actually gets the ball