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rizzo
13 May 2007, 22:17
Today he proved to everyone why he is the best in the business. Adeliade and west coast can have all the ruttens and glasses in the world, but id take matty every day! Killed Lynch today really did. But he is also a play maker out of defence! Really sets it up well.

peter_ford
13 May 2007, 22:18
sure is a gun

Hood007
13 May 2007, 22:21
Safe as houses.
Not only is he brilliant one on one, he's a underrated kick and a terrific user of the ball. He hardly ever turns it over...

CatmanForever
13 May 2007, 22:23
played a terific game and was the General down there

PoidaCat
13 May 2007, 22:23
Safe as houses.
Not only is he brilliant one on one, he's a underrated kick and a terrific user of the ball. He hardly ever turns it over...

He needs to teach our midfield how to kick...:D :thumbsu:

Then so many of our inside 50's wont be wasted.

thejester
13 May 2007, 22:34
I'm astounded how people can honestly say he's not the best fullback in the competition. Last week before the Richmond game there was some bollocks about how no Geelong players would be in the top 4 of teams like West Coast and St Kilda. A few people murmured 'oh maybe Chappy' but that was it. Now in raw 'footy' talent maybe not, but on overall performance? Scarlett is just so utterly superb every team in the comp would take him if they could.

Hood007
13 May 2007, 22:39
I'm astounded how people can honestly say he's not the best fullback in the competition. Last week before the Richmond game there was some bollocks about how no Geelong players would be in the top 4 of teams like West Coast and St Kilda. A few people murmured 'oh maybe Chappy' but that was it. Now in raw 'footy' talent maybe not, but on overall performance? Scarlett is just so utterly superb every team in the comp would take him if they could.

Spot on.

jarmanagic
13 May 2007, 23:26
He is a star, but Rutten is ahead imo. More creative and at least the equal as a stopper. Also more capable of going up the ground to CHB

Rutten last few weeks on Tredrea, Hall, Pavilch Rocca and Brown have been as good a 5 weeks of defence as you will ever see

Scarlett is a class player, no doubt at all, but i'd pick Rutten first

Archie Jnr
14 May 2007, 00:10
As long as he keeps that chip off his shoulder and stops sulking he is a huge asset to the team

Hood007
14 May 2007, 00:37
He is a star, but Rutten is ahead imo. More creative and at least the equal as a stopper. Also more capable of going up the ground to CHB

Rutten last few weeks on Tredrea, Hall, Pavilch Rocca and Brown have been as good a 5 weeks of defence as you will ever see

Scarlett is a class player, no doubt at all, but i'd pick Rutten first

You're obviously biased to say that Rutten is more creative than Scarlett. Sure Rutten may be equally adept at stopping his opponent but creativity wise, Matty's one of the best in the biz when it comes to the backline, let alone key position backline players. The stats would probably say so too...

deadfish
14 May 2007, 01:15
Scarlett is good at break through tackles, and he is definatly one of the best full backs. I cant comment on rutten as i honestly havnt watched much of adelaides games, just dont like watching them at the moment.

grantyc77
14 May 2007, 05:31
I'm pretty much the same, just love the way he plays the game, i also havent seen much of Rutten, he hasn't been around that long has he? I cant even really remember him, wasn't he a forward a couple of years ago?? I still think Scarlett and Fletcher are the best in the business.

a.f.k.a.y.o.p.
14 May 2007, 10:04
I'm pretty much the same, just love the way he plays the game, i also havent seen much of Rutten, he hasn't been around that long has he? I cant even really remember him, wasn't he a forward a couple of years ago?? I still think Scarlett and Fletcher are the best in the business.

Mate, how long you been in the Middle East for? Fletcher looks just about gone this year........done absolutely nothing.
Rutten is actually quite good - very good in fact. But Scarlett is slightly ahead of him - even if he did try to pick a fight with one of my mates a few years ago at some club in Geelong.......I forgive him.

conanthelibrarian
14 May 2007, 10:15
He is a star, but Rutten is ahead imo. More creative and at least the equal as a stopper. Also more capable of going up the ground to CHB

Rutten last few weeks on Tredrea, Hall, Pavilch Rocca and Brown have been as good a 5 weeks of defence as you will ever see

Scarlett is a class player, no doubt at all, but i'd pick Rutten first

Get your hand off it mate. The only reason Rutten is so effective is because he has 2 or 3 midfielders filling the gaps so the forwards can't lead, so they have to bomb it to a 1 on 1 with Rutten, where he just spoils it. Scarlett has the ability to read the play and pick off leads, and create going the other way.

jarmanagic
14 May 2007, 12:00
Get your hand off it mate. The only reason Rutten is so effective is because he has 2 or 3 midfielders filling the gaps so the forwards can't lead, so they have to bomb it to a 1 on 1 with Rutten, where he just spoils it. Scarlett has the ability to read the play and pick off leads, and create going the other way.


I'd suggest you and your Geelong mates really watch Rutten closely before you offer those opinions. Other people on this thread have already admitted they've barely seen Rutten play. Because of the Victorian media domination, the best Victorian players are nearly invariably talked up more than non Victorian players. A bit like the fact that Geelong are second premiership favorites. Does anyone (including you guys) realy believe you are the second most likely team to win the flag? One win this year over a good side, big query on your coach and a long history of inconsistent football and getting ahead of yourselves

Re Rutten v Scarlett as I said, Scarlett a class player, does have longevity over Rutten and the gap between them is tiny imo. Anyone who doesn't respect Rutten as a footballer simply doesn't know what they are talikng about though

Xcat
14 May 2007, 13:17
A bit like the fact that Geelong are second premiership favorites. Does anyone (including you guys) realy believe you are the second most likely team to win the flag?

I do! And what makes you think Adelaide is any closer?
Long history of choking, key players out this year.. Hmm, a premiership sounds iffy.

spanna050
14 May 2007, 14:08
Anyone who doesn't respect Rutten as a footballer simply doesn't know what they are talikng about though

Plenty here rate Rutten mate - he is an excellent footballer, but you're the one that said that Rutten is more creative than Scarlo, which is just rubbish.

25 posessions at 100% effectiveness against the best team in the league.............'nuff said.

Hood007
14 May 2007, 14:12
Plenty here rate Rutten mate - he is an excellent footballer, but you're the one that said that Rutten is more creative than Scarlo, which is just rubbish.

25 posessions at 100% effectiveness against the best team in the league.............'nuff said.

Good call.

thefamilyguy
14 May 2007, 14:16
I liked the way Scarlett reads the play, best reader in the comp imo. There were heaps of times the ball would be put into a danger spot and i'd think the eagles were a chance and then BAM, Scarlett would have run 30 metres off his man to rebound it out of defence. He did this heaps of times. Looked really dangerous.

I guess i'm biased, but i'd put him=Glass as AA fullback.

Great game on the weekend btw. :thumbsu: Just whatever you do don't @#$% it up and loose to Freo. :p

Big Nasty
14 May 2007, 14:28
I liked the way Scarlett reads the play, best reader in the comp imo. There were heaps of times the ball would be put into a danger spot and i'd think the eagles were a chance and then BAM, Scarlett would have run 30 metres off his man to rebound it out of defence. He did this heaps of times. Looked really dangerous.

I guess i'm biased, but i'd put him=Glass as AA fullback.

Great game on the weekend btw. :thumbsu: Just whatever you do don't @#$% it up and loose to Freo. :p
Cheers mate, I'd Rate Glass a mile ahead of Rutten.

jarmanagic
14 May 2007, 19:08
I do! And what makes you think Adelaide is any closer?
Long history of choking, key players out this year.. Hmm, a premiership sounds iffy.

Firstly I never said we were
Secondly I've seen two flags from our "chokers" in the last 10 years. Remind me how many you've seen in the last 40
Thirdly could you explain our long history of choking. 2005 final v St Kilda maybe, cant even think of another choke. There is of course a difference between not winning because you weren't good enough and choking

Finally if you really think you are the second most likely side in the comp to win the flag, despite the fact you lost to Kangaroos 3 weeks ago home with almost no injuries, comfortably beaten by Bulldogs lost to middle of the road side Hawthorn already.... Good luck. One win vs Richmond and 1 excellent win v West Coast isn't even nearly enough yet. You did implode and finish about 11th lst year from about this spot after all, and your coach has a history of blaming everyone but himself for poor prformance

I think
West Coast/Sydney/Port/Adelaide and probably Freo all more likely than your team, maybe even Collingwood and North (not so sure about those 2)

Hairy Cat Mooney
14 May 2007, 20:09
Re Rutten v Scarlett as I said, Scarlett a class player, does have longevity over Rutten and the gap between them is tiny imo. Anyone who doesn't respect Rutten as a footballer simply doesn't know what they are talikng about though Noone disrespected Rutten he is a great footballer and full back. Its just that Scarlett is a better full back.

Scarlett Fever
14 May 2007, 20:32
Scarlett has now played one good game in a row. His attributes should make him the best in the business but he has been a little disappointing the last 2 years. He is capable of reproducing yesterdays form on a regular basis and quickly reestabilishing his reputation of being the best in the business.

I think he has suffered on 3 counts.

1) He was the best arm chopper in the business and then the rules changed.

2) He likes to play from behind and close in on his opponent or peel off. The hands in the back rule has helped those that play in front.

3)I think Matty was challenged to take his game to an even higher level 2 years back and it has backfired. He tried to become too attacking. The result was a handful of the greatest defensive games I have ever seen (Adelaide in the wet and a couple of others) but he was also exposed a few times and less consistent. At other times he has looked a little disinterested.

The scene is set for Matty to return to his best. BUT the overwhelming thing I like about Matty is if we can get back to a top level as a team I just have this confidence that he will stand up when it really counts in the big games. Hopefully, time will tell.

Brasil2007
14 May 2007, 20:40
... At other times he has looked a little disinterested.


Seems particularly true when Harley doesn't play. Scarlett's body language at times sucks and unlike Mike Sheahan and most journos I understand completely why he isn't in the leadership group.

Having said that, I agree completely - when he is on he is comfortably ahead of any other defender in the comp, and I think even in his fairly ordinary years his stats are superb. He didn't play well last year and still only had something like 22 goals kicked on him.