View Full Version : Adelaide is 15th on the ladder for points for!
RicMcHart
14 May 2007, 17:03
It was good to have a great win away and to kick 100 points in a game but after this weeks round of matches Adelaide is the 2nd bottom side for points scored for.
Injuries to our forwards have hit us badly this year and could be the main reason that we have not been scoring highly in many games!
Our defence is currently the best in the league followed by West Coast so our defence is our best asset in our gameplan to date.:thumbsu:
Has our gameplan changed this year to a more defensive one or are we lacking quality inform forwards that can make most of the opportunities created by our run & drive from our defence and midfield?:confused:
Only one ladder to worry about
RoosterLad
14 May 2007, 17:04
Injuries have killed us which is why we are playing such a negative game plan but in the past we have been quite high scoring. The main thing is we are 4 and 3 and sitting in 5th which is more important than the scoring ladder.
dyertribe
14 May 2007, 17:21
or are we lacking quality inform forwards that can make most of the opportunities created by our run & drive from our defence and midfield?:confused:
AFC Goalkickers, Season 2006
1. Mark Ricciuto 44.26
2. Trent Hentschel 42.23
3. Brett Burton 41.27
4. Matthew Bode 32.22
5. Scott Thompson 22.10
6. Ken McGregor 21.15
7. Rhett Biglands 20.7
8. Tyson Edwards 15.4
9. Brent Reilly 14.14
10. Scott Welsh 12.7
Red = Crocked
Orange = Playing injured/underdone
Hardly a surprise we're struggling to put scores on the board is it?
PrideofSA
14 May 2007, 17:33
That list makes me sad and that isn't nice. :(
Why? I think it's a good thing.
When we have a fit Roo, Bode, Burton, Reilly, McGregor and Welsh in theory it should mean that we are scoring more.
I would argue that Welsh is actually fit, he looked fine on Sat Night, and Burton didn't look quite as bad.
James23
14 May 2007, 17:35
AFC Goalkickers, Season 2006
1. Mark Ricciuto 44.26
2. Trent Hentschel 42.23
3. Brett Burton 41.27
4. Matthew Bode 32.22
5. Scott Thompson 22.10
6. Ken McGregor 21.15
7. Rhett Biglands 20.7
8. Tyson Edwards 15.4
9. Brent Reilly 14.14
10. Scott Welsh 12.7
Red = Crocked
Orange = Playing injured/underdone
Hardly a surprise we're struggling to put scores on the board is it?
look at this from an optimistic point of view, the players in blue are who we will have back at 100% come later in the year :)
1. Mark Ricciuto 44.26
2. Trent Hentschel 42.23
3. Brett Burton 41.27
4. Matthew Bode 32.22
5. Scott Thompson 22.10
6. Ken McGregor 21.15
7. Rhett Biglands 20.7
8. Tyson Edwards 15.4
9. Brent Reilly 14.14
10. Scott Welsh 12.7
Seanason
14 May 2007, 18:00
But we have a tight ass defence.
We would have to be #1 or #2 on that ladder surely?
topjars
14 May 2007, 22:00
It was good to have a great win away and to kick 100 points in a game but after this weeks round of matches Adelaide is the 2nd bottom side for points scored for.
A good defence will do that to you.
I wouldnt be too concerned, just wait til we get warmed up.
maccas_no1
15 May 2007, 13:53
Why? I think it's a good thing.
When we have a fit Roo, Bode, Burton, Reilly, McGregor and Welsh in theory it should mean that we are scoring more.
I would argue that Welsh is actually fit, he looked fine on Sat Night, and Burton didn't look quite as bad.
Lets be honest here Riccuito will never play again, but certainly when the others are back to full fitness yes we will score more, as much as ultra defensive shits us all it is here to stay until we get some structure back in our F50.
Lets be honest here Riccuito will never play again, .
Lets be honest, its only your opinion
RoosterLad
15 May 2007, 14:07
We all know how accurate maccasno1 is...
maccas_no1
15 May 2007, 14:21
Lets be honest, its only your opinion
Well very true but also I think his wife and children need to be considered ahead of anything us as AFC supporters want.
maccas_no1
15 May 2007, 14:24
We all know how accurate maccasno1 is...
About as accurate as yourself:rolleyes:
Crowked
15 May 2007, 14:26
I think it might have something to do with the fact we havent played Richmond, Carlton or Melbourne yet. These are the bottom 3 teams and have the worst %'s in the comp. The next 3 weeks we play?, you guessed it, Richmond, Carlton and Melbourne. Lets have another look after that and if we are still 2nd. last on points scored for, then we might get a bit concerned about it. I'm tipping we will have moved up that ladder quite a bit.:thumbsu:
Drummond
15 May 2007, 14:27
Agree with maccas_no1 on this one. Can people please stop factoring in Ricciuto in their plans for this season, or next season for that matter, because he won’t ever get up to play. He’s got just as much chance as Hentschel does of playing in 2007. His body is in absolute tatters and it’s just foolish to say he, "will come back at 100% later in the year”.
Mr_Smooth
15 May 2007, 14:27
a rock solid defense is much better than having a slightly non functioning forward line.
as long as you score more than the opposition, it's the only thing that counts in the end.. :thumbsu:
Kane McGoodwin
15 May 2007, 14:28
Well very true but also I think his wife and children need to be considered ahead of anything us as AFC supporters want.
No doubt, but this is just a minor not a major setback. He was actually going to play this week, so he shouldn't be too far away. No point rushing him as we need him right for the business end.
Well very true but also I think his wife and children need to be considered ahead of anything us as AFC supporters want.
No doubt. Just wonder how a ''back '' injury can relate to a lifestyle threatening injury?
Lets not make the mistake that I want Roo back just to beef up the AFC . I want him back because I think he is the greatest player the AFC have had, I also think he can still contribute.
I just wont write him off until he says its over
Kane McGoodwin
15 May 2007, 14:29
Agree with maccas_no1 on this one. Can people please stop factoring in Ricciuto in their plans for this season, or next season for that matter, because he won’t ever get up to play. He’s got just as much chance as Hentschel does of playing in 2007. His body is in absolute tatters and it’s just foolish to say he, "will come back at 100% later in the year”.
So now you are the club Dr?
Agree with maccas_no1 on this one. Can people please stop factoring in Ricciuto in their plans for this season, or next season for that matter, because he won’t ever get up to play. He’s got just as much chance as Hentschel does of playing in 2007. His body is in absolute tatters and it’s just foolish to say he, "will come back at 100% later in the year”.
Ahhh so the DR in your name stands for doctor... well Dr Ummond thanks for your qualified opinion but excuse me if I take it with a grain of salt :p
I havent factored Roo into any of my calculations...just think he would add something to the side and it will be a bonus to have him there
So now you are the club Dr?
Snap
Drummond
15 May 2007, 14:36
Ahhh so the DR in your name stands for doctor... well Dr Ummond thanks for your qualified opinion but excuse me if I take it with a grain of salt :p
I havent factored Roo into any of my calculations...just think he would add something to the side and it will be a bonus to have him there
Dr Ummond, I like it! ;) :p
But in all seriousness, of course I would love to be proven wrong and to see Ricciuto out there in a few weeks, but I just don’t see it happening. He was barely hanging on last year, and considering he’s suffered setback after setback this year, I’d hate to know the state his body is in now.
Kane McGoodwin
15 May 2007, 14:42
Dr Ummond, I like it! ;) :p
But in all seriousness, of course I would love to be proven wrong and to see Ricciuto out there in a few weeks, but I just don’t see it happening. He was barely hanging on last year, and considering he’s suffered setback after setback this year, I’d hate to know the state his body is in now.
Barely hanging on? He topped our goal-kicking.
Drummond
15 May 2007, 15:02
Barely hanging on? He topped our goal-kicking.
Second half of last season...
McLeod23
15 May 2007, 16:33
Its not a problem thats affecting our ladder position, or our W/L ratio, however it would be a concern come finals time, when opportunities to score are scarce.
If we leave Roo aside for now, I'd like us to set up with Perrie leading right up to the wings, because he is a woeful contested mark (and before Crow-mo or anyone else pulls out stats that suggest otherwise, take another look at the game on Saturday night, and watch him time and time again fail to take contested marks when he was in the perfect position to do so), Bock also pushing up hard to CHF leaving space for Welsh to lead into. Welshy was great against the Lions, and showed again that his pace is still a serious weapon - IF - he has space to lead into.
K-Mac can sit in the goalsquare and give us a long option when he returns, Burton can run back and take hangers over everyone when he returns to full fitness, and when Bodey and Porps are back they can crumb their arses off. Not all of these guys will be in our forwardline at the same time, but we definitely have options, and also the capacity to be a very high scoring side.
I still believe we can be very potent in attack this season, especially if the likes of Thompson and Goodwin continue their goalkicking magic from the midfield.
Pride of SA
15 May 2007, 20:26
just means that at 5th we are still better than 11 other clubs even without just about every player whos ever kicked a goal for us on the sidelines.
we were 2nd highest last year, few casulties come back in the next few weeks and the scoring will take care of itself.
Crows say Ricciuto will play again
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ADELAIDE has bluntly refuted claims Mark Ricciuto's latest injury setback may bring his decorated AFL career to a close, saying he may be playing again within a fortnight.
Ricciuto woke on Tuesday to read local headlines that he might never play again, but senior player Nathan Bassett gave short shrift to the view that the 31-year-old Adelaide skipper was on his last legs.
"He hasn't played yet this year and won't be playing this week, so it probably isn't going to affect our team," Bassett said of Ricciuto's renewed back pain, the latest in a line of problems dating back to last year’s pre-season.
"It was disappointing for Roo, he was close to playing, but he will again in the near future, it's just a minor setback."
Ricciuto himself has said he is not overly perturbed by the hiccup, and expects to be back training next week and possibly playing another week beyond that.
Strangely for a team that has won as many minor round games as anyone else over the past two seasons, Adelaide is still searching for the key to consistency as it prepares for a home meeting with lowly Richmond.
Though fifth with four wins, the Crows have turned in a pair of decidedly mediocre performances against Essendon and Collingwood at home, while also losing their way in a tight loss to struggling Fremantle in Perth.
These results are difficult to justify next to the run, aggression and discipline of demanding road victories over the Western Bulldogs and Brisbane, and home dismissals of Port Adelaide and Sydney.
All-Australian defender Bassett said while injuries were partly to blame, it was possible to argue that the team was still striving for the correct balance between defence and attack.
"We're using different people than last year, so we've had to train a lot more people to get ready and get up to speed so that has been difficult," he said.
"We've changed a lot more numbers through there, so I think it's always a progression of how we can keep improving as an ability to defend as a group.
"It's about keeping the balance and making sure we can still provide the attack and the goals to kick more than the other team."
On Friday, Adelaide will be reunited with Richmond and coach Terry Wallace for the first time since Wallace employed extreme flooding and keepings-off tactics, labelled "basketball crap" by Kevin Sheedy, to outlast a tactically naive Adelaide at Telstra Dome early last year.
Bassett said the Crows now looked on that game as one they learned a great deal from, and he reckoned the players would welcome any attempted repeat by the Tigers.
"We allowed them to do that because we were so poor in the first half and gave them the lead, in the second half they did it and we slowly pegged them back but not in time," he said.
"You don't know what you're going to get. Terry is a very organised coach, (but) we learned a lot from that game and we'll certainly react a lot better if they try it again."
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Lets be honest here Riccuito will never play again, but certainly when the others are back to full fitness yes we will score more, as much as ultra defensive shits us all it is here to stay until we get some structure back in our F50.
always amusing even though annoying :thumbsu:
I think I am going to go with what Roo, the players and the club is saying over maccas_no1 :rolleyes:
maccas_no1
15 May 2007, 22:38
always amusing even though annoying :thumbsu:
I think I am going to go with what Roo, the players and the club is saying over maccas_no1 :rolleyes:
And what have they said???
And what have they said???
Do i really need to look up the posts for you???? :confused:
Direct from the club to BigFooty:
We do not believe we need to keep putting Ricciuto up for press conferences to say the same things. He hasn't "reinjured" himself but his back was sore after training on Friday. As one of the other posters said, it has been a case of two steps forward and one step back for Mark in the past few weeks. Mark has been warned to expect some of these setbacks - as I think he said in the Sunday Mail last weekend - as part of the recovery process so he is certainly not back at the start and expected these setback
a. This has been reported a number of times. He has a small tear in a disc in his back.
b. The club prefers not to give out specific details about his rehab/maintenance/fitness program but he had been training with the main group for the four group sessions before last Friday.
c. There is no precise timetable for his return. He needs to be able to train with the full group for a couple of weeks to be ready to play so he was pretty close late last week and if he had been able to get on the track this week would have been considered for the Friday night game.
d. There is always some risk with backs but we have a couple of players at the club who have had similar injuries (Bock, Pfeiffer and Goodwin) and they have been able to get over the problem.
What Roo says:
Ricciuto himself has said he is not overly perturbed by the hiccup, and expects to be back training next week and possibly playing another week beyond that.
What the club says:
ADELAIDE has bluntly refuted claims Mark Ricciuto's latest injury setback may bring his decorated AFL career to a close, saying he may be playing again within a fortnight.
What you said:
Lets be honest here Riccuito will never play again
Really funny stuff. Classic maccas_no1 :rolleyes:
I think it might have something to do with the fact we havent played Richmond, Carlton or Melbourne yet. These are the bottom 3 teams and have the worst %'s in the comp. The next 3 weeks we play?, you guessed it, Richmond, Carlton and Melbourne. Lets have another look after that and if we are still 2nd. last on points scored for, then we might get a bit concerned about it. I'm tipping we will have moved up that ladder quite a bit.:thumbsu:
We haven't played them either. We have Carlton and Melbourne the next two weeks, don't have richmond for a while.
North has proven you don't need a forward line to kick goals. :p You just need a few guys there that will present and a to hit some passing going inside the forward 50. I think midfield domination is more responsible for a big score being kicked than having a potent forward line.
And what have they said???
ADELAIDE has bluntly refuted claims Mark Ricciuto's latest injury setback may bring his decorated AFL career to a close, saying he may be playing again within a fortnight
They been reading BF ;)
maccas_no1
16 May 2007, 11:54
ADELAIDE has bluntly refuted claims Mark Ricciuto's latest injury setback may bring his decorated AFL career to a close, saying he may be playing again within a fortnight
They been reading BF ;)
Yes sorry I have two weeks of catching up to do with the goings on around the place.