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MickyCrow
14 May 2007, 20:24
http://www.abc.net.au/brokenhill/stories/s1922053.htm

Hey hey

Next week playing for NSW under 18s again on the 20th against the Murray Bushrangers

Blue Red and Gold
14 May 2007, 20:26
good to hear it, the kid sounds promising.

Gets!
14 May 2007, 20:40
Geez....Walker and Sellar haha!

Stiffy_18
14 May 2007, 20:44
Great news this! :thumbsu:

Drummond
14 May 2007, 20:46
I think Perrie may be getting a tad nervous. ;)

crowsarethebest
14 May 2007, 21:18
Great news. Will be intersting to see how he goes against the Murray Bushrangers... Should be a evenly matched contest.

Crow-mo
14 May 2007, 23:41
excellent news.

but lets say this kid really turn out to be something - If I recall he was rated very highly at the time he agreed to sign for us. that's the problem, the player got to choose his team.

how long before this latest draft incursion is ruled out?

jo172
15 May 2007, 00:01
excellent news.

but lets say this kid really turn out to be something - If I recall he was rated very highly at the time he agreed to sign for us. that's the problem, the player got to choose his team.

how long before this latest draft incursion is ruled out?

I'm willing to bet if he continues to look good the AFL will pull out all stops to prevent him from ever playing for the Adelaide Football Club without us parting with a first round draft pick or some equivalent.

Stiffy_18
15 May 2007, 00:01
excellent news.

but lets say this kid really turn out to be something - If I recall he was rated very highly at the time he agreed to sign for us. that's the problem, the player got to choose his team.

how long before this latest draft incursion is ruled out?
IMHO, not very long at all.

As we had a Discussion about this at the time the program was announced. This program is a classic case of rich getting stonger and poor, well remaining weak.

Financially strong clubs who are also consistently good teams will "exploit" this to their advantage as they will put more resources into scouting these kids and then offer bigger money for these kids to sign with them.

All it will take is one genuine gun youngster to be recruited by a strong team like us and the restrictions will come in in terms of not being able to offer better $$$, or being assigned a particular area until the idea gets scrapped eventually because of the inequity argument.

I guess we just have to take an advantage of it while there is a chance because the window won't be open for too long unfortunately.

Vic Crow
15 May 2007, 00:12
Great news. Will be intersting to see how he goes against the Murray Bushrangers... Should be a evenly matched contest.
Taylor Walker is from NSW/ACT right? They beat Calder who were previously undefeated and are one of the flag favourites. The Bushies have only had two wins and based on the result against Calder I would expect NSW/ACT to account for them comfortably. Hopefully Walker gets amongst it again!

Gets!
15 May 2007, 00:28
Walker to bag 19.

Stiffy_18
15 May 2007, 00:28
Walker to bag 19.
In a quarter ;)

Gets!
15 May 2007, 00:30
'Taylor Walker Ranger'

It HAD to be done.

rayven
15 May 2007, 00:59
Walker to bag 19.


Free kicks?????

Crowked
15 May 2007, 10:31
When are we able to officially list him? How do we go about it?

Vader
15 May 2007, 11:36
When are we able to officially list him? How do we go about it?

Use our last draft pick at the National Draft at the end of the year. Would probably have to fill in some paperwork, notifying the other teams that he's off the market - much the same as is currently done for F/S selections.

NikkiNoo
15 May 2007, 12:14
IMHO, not very long at all.

As we had a Discussion about this at the time the program was announced. This program is a classic case of rich getting stonger and poor, well remaining weak.

Financially strong clubs who are also consistently good teams will "exploit" this to their advantage as they will put more resources into scouting these kids and then offer bigger money for these kids to sign with them.

All it will take is one genuine gun youngster to be recruited by a strong team like us and the restrictions will come in in terms of not being able to offer better $$$, or being assigned a particular area until the idea gets scrapped eventually because of the inequity argument.

I guess we just have to take an advantage of it while there is a chance because the window won't be open for too long unfortunately.

There was a discussion on the main board about the system, particularly in relation to one player that knocked back offers from the Swans and Eagles to sign with Hawthorn. The main gist seemed to be that his older brother is a scholarship holder with the Eagles but his father has observed other players further their development with Hawthorn and thought they were doing more for the players than Sydney (who also approached the player) and the Eagles.

article here (http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/swans-eagles-see-teen-fly-to-hawks/2007/05/07/1178390225665.html)

dyertribe
15 May 2007, 12:40
All it will take is one genuine gun youngster to be recruited by a strong team like us and the restrictions will come in in terms of not being able to offer better $$$, or being assigned a particular area until the idea gets scrapped eventually because of the inequity argument.

It's funny isn't it.

Back in the 80's Greg Miller was able to pilfer John Longmire and Wayne Carey from Sydney's zone in exchange for a bumper bowling birthday party at the Dubbo AMF for Tommy Hafey, essentially handing North Melbourne a decade of dominance and a pair of flags in return for pocket change.

More recently Geelong have enjoyed a thousand quality F/S picks in the past five minutes, Brisbane got Jonathan Brown because his dad played 51 games for Fitzroy and obviously we just missed out on Bryce because although his dad played a million games for Glenelg they weren't between June 1831 and September 1833 - as such we're the only club to have never had a listed player acquired via the Father/Son Rule.

Draftwise we've never had a live pick above #7 and we're always at the mercy of homesick outerstaters wanting to move back home for what is usually a pittance and as a result drafting and grooming a Victorian project player - one who needs to spend a good 2-3 years playing SANFL and bulking up rather than being thrown in the deep end like his colleagues at struggling clubs back home - is akin to committing list suicide.

If this kid actually becomes something - not even a star, just a serviceable first teamer like Ken McGregor - this development program will be shut down quicker than Josh Thurgood on Ladies' Night at Area61.

Vic Crow
15 May 2007, 12:48
Top post DT! :thumbsu:

Gets!
15 May 2007, 13:34
So can we list him at THIS years national draft?

betterthanu
15 May 2007, 14:28
So can we list him at THIS years national draft?

I think someone said he wont be old enough this year. Have to wait till next year. More time for the AFL to **** us over

Gets!
15 May 2007, 15:12
But I thought it was a 2 year scholarship, and this would be his second year.

Plus he is already 17.

mick_foley
15 May 2007, 16:30
But I thought it was a 2 year scholarship, and this would be his second year.

Plus he is already 17.

33.4.2 Primary List
Subject to the Scholarship List Player meeting age requirements under Player Rule 4, a Club may apply to the AFL to transfer a Player or Players from its Scholarship List onto its Primary List on the day when its Primary List is lodged with the AFL prior to the National Draft Selection Meeting under Player Rule 4.1.

33.4.3 Primary List during AFL Season
A Player included on a Club’s Scholarship List shall not be promoted onto the Primary List or Rookie List of an AFL Club during the Home and Away Matches or while it continues to compete in the Finals Series.

33.4.4 Maintain Primary List
Where a Club applies to the AFL to transfer a Player from its Scholarship List onto its Primary List in accordance with Rule 33.4.2, it must de-list a Player from its Primary List if that is necessary to ensure that the Club does not exceed the number of Players it is able to retain on its Primary List as required under AFL Player Rule 3.3.

33.5 Inclusion of Scholarship List Player onto Rookie List 33.5.1 Rookie List
Subject to the Scholarship Player meeting age requirements under Player Rule 5, a Club may apply to the AFL to transfer a Player or Players from its Scholarship List onto its Rookie
List provided it nominates such Player or Players prior to advising the AFL of its Primary List under Rule Player 4.1.1 and such Player consents to being nominated on the Rookie List.

http://www.aflnswact.com.au/_content/document/00046839-src.pdf

So to answer your question regarding if we can draft him this year, I think we can add him to the ‘Primary list’ at the end of this season as he is already 17 years old and a current scholarship holder. IIRC under rule 4 any AFL club is only allowed to draft one 17 year old per year and since he is will not turn 18 until 2008 we must use him as our 17 year old.

We will not be able to rookie list him as he doesn’t meet the requirements for rule 5 (He has to be 18 (and under 23) before December 31 in the year he is drafted) so we cannot rookie list him until 2009.

A rookie player must be 18 (and under 23) before December 31 in the year he is drafted. Sydney & Brisbane can include one or more players on their rookie list during the period between the NAB Pre-Season draft and the NAB Rookie Draft provided the player has resided in NSW or the ACT (in the case of Sydney) or Queensland (in the case of Brisbane) for at least three years before his selection. This encourages Sydney & Brisbane to invest in local players who were not selected at either the NAB AFL Draft or the NAB Pre-Season Draft.

http://www.afl.com.au/*****/History/AFL101/tabid/1029/Default.aspx


Hopefully that is correct.

Gets!
15 May 2007, 16:44
It is terribly confusing, I just want to get him on our list ASAP so he can't be stolen haha

mick_foley
15 May 2007, 16:53
It is terribly confusing, I just want to get him on our list ASAP so he can't be stolen haha

I cannot see any reason why it will not happen at the end of this year. :thumbsu:

Wayne's-World
15 May 2007, 20:44
http://www.aflnswact.com.au/_content/document/00046839-src.pdf

So to answer your question regarding if we can draft him this year, I think we can add him to the ‘Primary list’ at the end of this season as he is already 17 years old and a current scholarship holder. IIRC under rule 4 any AFL club is only allowed to draft one 17 year old per year and since he is will not turn 18 until 2008 we must use him as our 17 year old.

We will not be able to rookie list him as he doesn’t meet the requirements for rule 5 (He has to be 18 (and under 23) before December 31 in the year he is drafted) so we cannot rookie list him until 2009.


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Think that was an old ruling Mick now defunct ....whatever the age requirement is to participate in the National draft will also apply in this case.

I'm not sure what that ruling is but I know the one 17 year old per club thing is dead and buried ;)

Gets!
15 May 2007, 20:54
Don't you have to be 17 and a half by draft date?

Drummond
15 May 2007, 22:09
I'm not getting ahead of myself, the kid needs to produce good performances all year.
Trying a new approach now are we? ;)

RoosterLad
15 May 2007, 22:16
Trying a new approach now are we? ;)

:thumbsu: :D

bus24
15 May 2007, 22:17
Trying a new approach now are we? ;)

LOL I've noticed that too.

Gone from 'every player is James Hird, Michael Voss' to an extremely negative mindset.

FD88, find a happy medium :thumbsu: :D

RoosterLad
15 May 2007, 22:21
Well considering everybody interprets your posts the same way as bus said....

bus24
15 May 2007, 22:21
It's all in how you interpret my posts. It may appear that I mean what you've suggested but it's more "X kid could learn from X star's game because he has similar traits". And I'm telling you this as the one who writes the stuff in the first place.

Yeh I know.

You're just very easy to pick on. This boards whipping boy :p

Stiffy_18
15 May 2007, 22:24
Trying a new approach now are we? ;)
:D :thumbsu:

Gun!

Gets!
15 May 2007, 23:56
If he can keep it up all year, chances are if he wasn't our scholarship kid we (and other) clubs fans would be bandying around his name on their draft wish list though.

In a draft that is supposedly not as good as the last few if he keeps up similar form would be a monty for a first round selection.

Crow-mo
16 May 2007, 01:56
Trying a new approach now are we? ;)

Ha Ha :D

Markthirtytwo
16 May 2007, 09:53
It's all in how you interpret my posts. It may appear that I mean what you've suggested but it's more "X kid could learn from X star's game because he has similar traits". And I'm telling you this as the one who writes the stuff in the first place. Also it looks like all the blokes we discussed as possible omissions are going to get another gig because we've gone from having a ton of players set to resume to zero in the space of nine seconds. I feel like walking into the AFC clubrooms and screaming "FFS HEAL!!!" at Roo. :p

Just placing your hands on him should do the trick. ;)

Vader
16 May 2007, 10:20
Don't you have to be 17 and a half by draft date?

According to Wikipedia, players must have turned 17 before April 30th in the year of their drafting. Would have cited a reference on AFL.com.au, but they've removed any specifically useful information when they downgraded the site at the beginning of the year.

Given that it has frequently been stated that he's already 17, and April 30th was 17 days ago, I'd say he's probably going to be eligible at the end of this year.

However, I can't locate his DOB anywhere, so maybe someone else can fill in the gap.

- PC -
16 May 2007, 10:29
Lets not get too ahead of ourselves, for our sake and the kids. I like the idea of using the last pick in the draft. The David Rodan pick as it will be now known as.

An interesting prospect but one you wouldnt want to use a top 20 pick on.

betterthanu
16 May 2007, 16:21
I don't know if this has already been established but according to this http://www.aflnswact.com.au/_content/document/00051200-src.pdf
he has grown a few cm to be 188cm from 186. Lets hope he can crack the 190 mark. I think that article would prob be from the start of this year and hes still only 17.

Edit: his DOB is 25/4/90....someone should be able to find out hes officially eligible for this years draft from that.

Vader
16 May 2007, 16:25
Edit: his DOB is 25/4/90....someone should be able to find out hes officially eligible for this years draft from that.

That would make him eligible for the National Draft by 5 days. Ineligible for the rookie draft.

Gets!
16 May 2007, 16:26
Apparently he is already 190 cm I heard someone else say, that 186cm mark is old.

Looks like he is eligible this year by 5 days...awesome :D

CarnCrows
16 May 2007, 16:38
Boy are'nt we all getting a tad over exited about Walker.

Im in - GUN!

Stiffy_18
16 May 2007, 16:44
Boy are'nt we all getting a tad over exited about Walker.

Im in - GUN!
Haha, wouldn't it be funny if we rolled out the same superlatives about Texas Ranger that we do for the GOAT van Berlo?! :D

Dandy_GO
16 May 2007, 17:23
I'm with the "I bet he has a massive season, only for the AFL to somehow screw us over, leading to a bottom Victorian club picking him up instead" crew.

Still, it'll be very very nice if we do happen to get him. Looks like a good kid. With this lad, Sellar and Tippett all on the list, we've got a very strong chance of finally developing at least one gun forward. Our future forward line is looking pretty good!

ams4crows
16 May 2007, 17:25
I'm with the "I bet he has a massive season, only for the AFL to somehow screw us over, leading to a bottom Victorian club picking him up instead" crew.

Still, it'll be very very nice if we do happen to get him. Looks like a good kid. With this lad, Sellar and Tippett all on the list, we've got a very strong chance of finally developing at least one gun forward. Our future forward line is looking pretty good!

Top Notch that!:thumbsu:

CarnCrows
16 May 2007, 17:40
I'm with the "I bet he has a massive season, only for the AFL to somehow screw us over, leading to a bottom Victorian club picking him up instead" crew.

Still, it'll be very very nice if we do happen to get him. Looks like a good kid. With this lad, Sellar and Tippett all on the list, we've got a very strong chance of finally developing at least one gun forward. Our future forward line is looking pretty good!
Looking top heavy.

crowsarethebest
16 May 2007, 23:24
Looking top heavy.

Who cares. With the luck we're having none of them are going to turn out anything flash. It's been a lnog time since we've had a gun forward. Hopefully at least one will be a gun.

betterthanu
16 May 2007, 23:47
Sellar is supposed to be very quick. I havent read anything bout Walker being quick. Need to draft an excellent forward line crumber to top off the dominant forward line of the next 10 years.

Crow-mo
16 May 2007, 23:52
It isn't top heavy when they're quick and can crumb the footy (think Franklin). Tippett is quick, and Walker is said to be very quick as well. Don't know about Sellar.

are you comparing tippett to franklin?

Stiffy_18
17 May 2007, 00:11
Sellar is supposed to be very quick. I havent read anything bout Walker being quick. Need to draft an excellent forward line crumber to top off the dominant forward line of the next 10 years.
Meh. With the marking power of Tippett, Sellar and especially the Texas Ranger the will be no crumbs because they mark everything coming their way :D :p

bus24
17 May 2007, 00:15
Meh. With the marking power of Tippett, Sellar and especially the Texas Ranger the will be no crumbs because they mark everything coming their way :D :p

C'mon now, don't forget Drummonds 'priority superboot'

- PC -
17 May 2007, 01:16
Walker is not hung like a horse, horses are hung like Walker

:thumbsu: I got in first :D

MickyCrow
20 May 2007, 19:54
Murray Bushrangers 3.3 6.6 8.10 11.12 (78)
NSW ACT Rams 3.2 5.4 7.6 10.9 (69)

GOALS:
Murray Bushrangers: Deledio 3 Garland 3 Beckmans Hebbard Normington McIntyre Terlich
NSW ACT Rams: Walker 4 Davis 2 Bird Breust Martin Drum

BEST:
Murray Bushrangers: Koehler Garland Martiniello Deledio Hockey Hebbard
NSW ACT Rams: Bird Ediriwickrama Bruce Overs Byrne Drum

REPORTED PLAYERS:
Murray Bushrangers: Nil
NSW ACT Rams: Nil


Backed it up with another 4 goal performance:thumbsu: , detailed stats havent been posted yet

bus24
20 May 2007, 19:55
TAC Cup stats having him kicking 4 of NSW's 10 goals today.

Another V.Good performance it seems. :thumbsu:

MickyCrow
20 May 2007, 19:58
TAC Cup stats having him kicking 4 of NSW's 10 goals today.

Another V.Good performance it seems. :thumbsu:

Ah ha beat me to it bussy, just started another thread on this, mods wanna merge?

bus24
20 May 2007, 20:00
LOL Texas Ranger. Love it :D

- PC -
20 May 2007, 21:09
That makes it 16 goals in the last 3 games; tremendous effort. This is what I've been waiting for, a few consistent weeks from him to show it's talent and not fluke. So we know there is some talent, we must keep a very close eye on him throughout the season from here. :thumbsu:

We should hide him at Norwood...no-one will mention him if he plays there :cool:

bus24
20 May 2007, 21:11
We should hide him at Norwood...no-one will mention him if he plays there :cool:

The only ones we need to hide him from are the V....... I mean AFL.

Then know when you are sleeping they know when you are awake.

Stiffy_18
20 May 2007, 21:46
-Owp2Rjio-Q

:cool:

Dandy_GO
20 May 2007, 21:51
Once he inevitably becomes a star AFL player and hits our TV screens, channel 7 should dub over a whip crack whenever he kicks the ball.

A spinning sheriff star after every goal would be good too.

EDIT: Is there a rule against playing in a cowboy hat?

crows98
20 May 2007, 21:58
That makes it 16 goals in the last 3 games; tremendous effort. This is what I've been waiting for, a few consistent weeks from him to show it's talent and not fluke. So we know there is some talent, we must keep a very close eye on him throughout the season from here. :thumbsu:

Ok – now I concede that it looks like this kid could be something special and time to start talking him up. After the first game it was possible that it could have been a fluke but 16 goals in 3 weeks is a tremendous effort.

Crows I Am
20 May 2007, 22:01
Excuse my ignorance but who is this Taylor fellow and how have the crows already signed him up if he is in next years draft?? Are we gauranteed to get him?

crows98
20 May 2007, 22:01
The only ones we need to hide him from are the V....... I mean AFL.

Then know when you are sleeping they know when you are awake.

Collingwood have signed a 15 year old they are ‘boning’ up over and he is at least 2 years away, considering Eddie controls the AFL I cannot see this rule getting changed for 2 years.

crows98
20 May 2007, 22:05
Excuse my ignorance but who is this Taylor fellow and how have the crows already signed him up if he is in next years draft?? Are we gauranteed to get him?

Nothing is guaranteed as it’s the AFL we are talking about and potentially recruiting any good player for a low draft pick means squat until he is on our list.

http://www.abc.net.au/brokenhill/stories/s1646969.htm

Crows I Am
20 May 2007, 22:11
Just read that article, sounds good!!!

Nothing is guaranteed as it’s the AFL we are talking about and potentially recruiting any good player for a low draft pick means squat until he is on our list.

http://www.abc.net.au/brokenhill/stories/s1646969.htm

bus24
27 May 2007, 17:54
7 Goals against Bendigo Pioneers today :D

Stiffy_18
27 May 2007, 17:56
7 Goals against Bendigo Pioneers today :D
:D :thumbsu:

Drummond
27 May 2007, 17:56
7 Goals against Bendigo Pioneers today :D
OK, officially getting excited. :D ;)

turbo182
27 May 2007, 17:58
Shrewd recruiting this it seems.

Good to see he'd going well.

bus24
27 May 2007, 18:02
So since we've started tracking his progress.....

6 Goals v Calder Cannons
6 Goals in the Broken Hill league
4 Goals v Murray Bushrangers
7 Goals v Bendigo Pioneers

- PC -
27 May 2007, 18:08
He knows we watch

He doesnt want to have a Taylor is a Hack thread :cool:

WheresGroomgone
27 May 2007, 19:33
So he's from Broken Hill, but who is he playing for and at what level? any more info would be great thanks...

James23
27 May 2007, 19:34
unlikely we'll ever get our hands on him if he keeps starring with this corrupt afl system

SpringChoke
27 May 2007, 19:40
The article says he's a Kpp yet he's only 186cm.:confused:

Dandy_GO
27 May 2007, 20:02
The article says he's a Kpp yet he's only 186cm.:confused:

He's also 16 years old.

Let the kid grow.

Stiffy_18
27 May 2007, 20:03
The article says he's a Kpp yet he's only 186cm.:confused:
When the article was written he was a 16 year old 186 cm player. Its not a stretch to believe he will grow at least to 190 cm and at that height he can play KP. Fevola is only 190 cm and is arguably the best FF in the game.

betterthanu
27 May 2007, 20:09
http://www.aflnswact.com.au/_content/document/00051200-src.pdf
he has grown a few cm to be 188cm from 186. Lets hope he can crack the 190 mark. I think that article would prob be from the start of this year and hes still only 17.



hes 188cm

SpringChoke
27 May 2007, 20:21
He's also 16 years old.

Let the kid grow.

Sounds promising. Cheers.

Do you know if he's playing seniors or seconds?

betterthanu
27 May 2007, 20:27
hes 17 playing senior under 18s for NSW

bus24
27 May 2007, 20:29
Sounds promising. Cheers.

Do you know if he's playing seniors or seconds?

Playing for NSW/ACT in TAC Cup, and Broken Hill seniors.

I heard he's about 190cm now.

Crow-mo
27 May 2007, 20:33
OK, officially getting excited. :D ;)

officially agreeing with you :thumbsu: :D

betterthanu
27 May 2007, 20:37
I heard he's about 190cm now.

Even if he dosent grow any taller than this mark thats still a decent hight.

Are foxtel showing the under 18 championships this year and did they show any div 2 games last year????

bus24
27 May 2007, 20:40
I don't know a great deal about this TAC Cup business. All I want to know is, is it common for kids to come in and tear it up at that level? I wouldn't mind finding out a little more about what he has been up against.

No it's not common at all. It's a hugely strong league. I think NSW/ACT have played all of their 3 games in the TAC Cup now. Now we look forward to the U/18 Championships :thumbsu:

He's ripping apart Victorias best talents, imagine what he's going to do to QLD, NT and Tassie in Div.2 :eek:

rayven
27 May 2007, 20:42
All I want to know is, is it common for kids to come in and tear it up at that level? I wouldn't mind finding out a little more about what he has been up against.


In the TAC ,best of his age group in victoria and tasmania.

Alot of development stuff as its the biggest feeder league to the national draft.

For Broken hill all though its not the biggest league around he's playing against men in the one position you cop it from all angles.

The more you do the more you cop it.

Quite a grounding for a 17 yo.

crows98
27 May 2007, 20:56
Are foxtel showing the under 18 championships this year and did they show any div 2 games last year????

I doubt it (hopefully they do) but you can always watch the game on afl.com with Telstra big pond broadband (if the site is working)

CarnCrows
27 May 2007, 21:03
I doubt it (hopefully they do) but you can always watch the game on afl.com with Telstra big pond broadband (if the site is working)
So we have no chance!:thumbsd: :thumbsd:

betterthanu
27 May 2007, 21:04
I doubt it (hopefully they do) but you can always watch the game on afl.com with Telstra big pond broadband (if the site is working)

ok thanks. Does the afl website play all games (div 2?)

kimirocks
27 May 2007, 21:27
Excitement factor lifts another full notch. If it goes up another four notches, he is officially an essential addition to the 2008 list.If he tears it up in the Championships, I think it will be just enough to see him on our list. With a bullet.

Dandy_GO
27 May 2007, 21:40
If he tears it up in the Championships, I think it will be just enough to see him on our list. With a bullet.

If he tears it up in the championships, I think it will be just enough to see him on a Victorian teams list thanks to another Adrian Anderson special.

crows98
27 May 2007, 21:44
ok thanks. Does the afl website play all games (div 2?)

I think so because I can remember watching Tasmania Vs Queensland (and they are in Division 2) last year

bus24
27 May 2007, 21:48
I'm pretty sure the AFL would be struggling to take him away from us.

If they try it'll end up in the courts, and they'll lose.

Stiffy_18
27 May 2007, 21:50
I'm pretty sure the AFL would be struggling to take him away from us.

If they try it'll end up in the courts, and they'll lose.
Isn't that what people were saying about Gibbs as well? ;)

Never underestimate the cunning ability of the AFL. If there is a way for them to screw us over, they will do it, not questions asked!

crowsarethebest
27 May 2007, 21:50
I don't know a great deal about this TAC Cup business. All I want to know is, is it common for kids to come in and tear it up at that level? I wouldn't mind finding out a little more about what he has been up against.

Its a very good U18 Comp. All the best Victorian talents play there and both Victorian teams have been doing well in the champs, so it is a strong league. He sounds a very very good prospect. A good kick helps... we really need a deadly forward who can just maintain scoreboard pressure:thumbsu:. If he grows 190cm+ he might be a great full forward we have lacked in the past few years.

bus24
27 May 2007, 21:52
Isn't that what people were saying about Gibbs as well? ;)

Never underestimate the cunning ability of the AFL. If there is a way for them to screw us over, they will do it, not questions asked!

With Gibbs it was more a set in stone rule/law wasn't it? That we tried to get around.

The law is absolute crap, but I think he didn't qualify as a F/S according to the inital law anyway.

I was pretty sure the AFL didn't change the law to screw us over. Just got technical.

crows98
27 May 2007, 21:53
*lols*



*cries*



Jocularity aside we'll get him for sure....won't we? There is nothing they could do other than blatantly changing the rules to stop us from getting the kid - with Bryce Gibbs I get the impression it was more of a gray area (never did pay too much attention to the debate, just wanted to recruit Gibbsy at the end of it).

To start off with, it’s the AFL and they can (and do) what ever they like to increase the probability in a Victorian side becoming a premiership threat. So until he is on our list, don’t assume anything.


The positive thing working in our favour is that a few powerhouse Victorian clubs have already contracted some kids they are excited about. I can not see them kicking up much of a fuss about changing the rules and allowing Taylor Walker to come to Adelaide because they have this perception that they will win in the long run.

bus24
27 May 2007, 21:55
The positive thing working in our favour is that a few powerhouse Victorian clubs have already contracted some kids they are excited about. I can not see them kicking up much of a fuss about changing the rules and allowing Taylor Walker to come to Adelaide because they have this perception that they will win in the long run.

Scott Reed at Collingwood for example. Looks the goods apparently.

crows98
27 May 2007, 21:57
Scott Reed at Collingwood for example. Looks the goods apparently.

:thumbsu: :D

In this case....Good old Collingwood forever.

crowsarethebest
27 May 2007, 21:58
With Gibbs it was more a set in stone rule/law wasn't it? That we tried to get around.

The law is absolute crap, but I think he didn't qualify as a F/S according to the inital law anyway.

I was pretty sure the AFL didn't change the law to screw us over. Just got technical.

Yeah. It was Port who brought it up to the AFL that Gibbs was ineligible. It then turns out Ebert shouldn't have gone under F/S because his old man didn't play the required games in the period set... So basically Port got away with one and we didn't. THe AFL then changed it after the Gibbs saga and its still a very unfair disadvantage to Victorian clubs.

bus24
27 May 2007, 22:06
If the AFL does anything to stop us from obtaining him that would render them outright corrupt. With Bryce Gibbs it was an interpretation of the requirements to get picked under the father-son rule. In this case it's a matter of all the clubs getting hold of players through scholarships; they can't change the rules to punish us because we have a better eye for talent than the rest.

I'd say most clubs would have been very keen on the Texas Ranger. I'll just presume, him being a Crows fan, that he rejected every other clubs approaches.

Dandy_GO
27 May 2007, 22:08
If the AFL does anything to stop us from obtaining him that would render them outright corrupt. With Bryce Gibbs it was an interpretation of the requirements to get picked under the father-son rule. In this case it's a matter of all the clubs getting hold of players through scholarships; they can't change the rules to punish us because we have a better eye for talent than the rest.

There was enough evidence that they were corrupt re: Gibbs.
When Caroline Wilson acknowledges that we were screwed over - then we were ****ing well screwed over.

Not only that, but the bullshit reasoning that Anderson fed us after we tried to get the rule changed so it was more fair, yet the AFL changed it so it disadvantaged us - as well as other non-Vic teams (resulting in West Coast not being able to Draft J. Morton, despite his brother already being taken under father/son). He actually tried to tell us that they were doing us a favour, by allowing us to draft the sons of SANFL players who are now in their mid 70s.

AA is a corrupt bullshit artist. The sooner this administration is shown the door, the better. I have never called into talk-back radio, but if I do happen to hear him on a show (unlikely because he's a coward), I will give him a massive spray.