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Boy from the West
16 May 2007, 23:25
CLUB
NAME
D.O.B.
HT
Cm
WT
Kg
Claremont
Cale Morton
18/1/90
192
75

Matthew DeBoer
10/3/90
185
81

Patrick McGinnity
18/2/89
183
80

Tom Willet
4/4/89
186
84

Zaphine Skinner
27/6/89
187
68

Simon Starling
15/5/89
181

83





East Perth
Luke Sampey
23/05/89
191
91

Aaron Sweet
27/01/89
186
86

Tayte Pears
24/03/90
192
90

Michael Dawes
26/01/89
192
89

Tom Howlett
3/3/89
185
80

Don Stirling
21/10/89
178
77





Perth
David Myers
30/6/89
190
85

Cruize Garlett
6/3/89
172
75

Justin Russell
24/02/89
175
72





South Fremantle
Jarred Winter
06/01/89
178
82





East Fremantle
Chris Masten
2/5/89
179
78

Rhys Palmer
13/2/89
180
76

James Venturini
27/1/89
183
80

Callum Leslie
20/1/89
177
69





Peel
Matthew Breen
27/06/89
195
94





West Perth
Steven Browne
01/02/89
181
74

Mat Tedesco
30/08/89
183
74

Simon Crossland
20/04/89
190
88

Stephen Hill








Subiaco
Daniel Rich
7/6/90
185
77

Dave Gourdis
24/11/89
193
88

Jarrhan Jacky
5/4/89
180
71





Swan Districts
Nicholas Natanui
4/5/90
197
85

Tony Notte
15/4/90
194
70

David Ellard
3/3/89
175
72

Alex Rance
9/10/89
194
87

Luke Pratt
8/10/89
183
70

Chris Yarran
19/12/90
179
82

HBF
17 May 2007, 18:04
Morton and Masten the pick of that squad?

Ysaye
17 May 2007, 21:21
Morton and Masten the pick of that squad?

What do you mean? The supposed "guns" from that squad are likely to be:

1. Masten (Playing league and matching it with the men, ex AIS)
2. Rich (Cleaning up in the Colts at Subi, AIS)
3. Palmer (Playing league and doing some good things)
4. David Myers (Ex AIS playing Wing in the colts)
5. Morton (AIS Utility)
6. Natiuni (AIS Ruck)

beatlesmith
18 May 2007, 00:27
Hmm, Matt DeBoer made it. I knew him coz we went to school together. Family of born athletes. Scott, Matt and Mitch. Good mates with mitch. Good luck to Matt:thumbsu:

HBF
18 May 2007, 08:20
What do you mean? The supposed "guns" from that squad are likely to be:

1. Masten (Playing league and matching it with the men, ex AIS)
2. Rich (Cleaning up in the Colts at Subi, AIS)
3. Palmer (Playing league and doing some good things)
4. David Myers (Ex AIS playing Wing in the colts)
5. Morton (AIS Utility)
6. Natiuni (AIS Ruck)

Just asking the question mate, as I don't have too much knowledge on the WA kids. Thanks for the update though.

David3030
18 May 2007, 17:57
Is Rance the son of ex Eagle Murrat Rance?

bbco49
18 May 2007, 18:11
Anyone know why Dylan Ross isn't in the squad?

lyall
18 May 2007, 20:12
Is Rance the son of ex Eagle Murray Rance?

Yes he is

megladon
18 May 2007, 23:00
Anyone know why Dylan Ross isn't in the squad?

bit of a surprise is lighty built and not draft age but is an ais tall would have been given alot of consideration. may not have been a genuine place for him this year.

Snoop Dog
22 May 2007, 21:51
Looking fwd to seeing how much Masten has improved. Class act.

KING-JAMES
22 May 2007, 22:21
Looking fwd to seeing how much Masten has improved. Class act.


Same, i think he might jump up a bit in terms of how people on here rate him. I was very keen last year.

FrediKanoute
23 May 2007, 01:32
Is Rance the son of ex Eagle Murrat Rance?
Ex Bulldog and Eagle

smithos
23 May 2007, 13:53
Same, i think he might jump up a bit in terms of how people on here rate him. I was very keen last year.

He hasn't grown, so he falls into that category of needing to be exceptional to get passed his lack of height. I've seen him play a couple of times in the WAFL and he finds the ball at will and isn't daunted by mixing it with the bigger bodies, but, his disposal by foot is pretty abysmal. I'd be dissapointed if my team used an early pick on him.

southjoy
23 May 2007, 14:40
He hasn't grown, so he falls into that category of needing to be exceptional to get passed his lack of height. I've seen him play a couple of times in the WAFL and he finds the ball at will and isn't daunted by mixing it with the bigger bodies, but, his disposal by foot is pretty abysmal. I'd be dissapointed if my team used an early pick on him.

Couldn't disagree with you more on his disposals. Is the best use of the ball in the 18's and has excellent vision. You are right he is not tall enough to really get the drafters wowing but would be suprised if he isn't a first round pick

southjoy
23 May 2007, 14:41
What do you mean? The supposed "guns" from that squad are likely to be:

1. Masten (Playing league and matching it with the men, ex AIS)
2. Rich (Cleaning up in the Colts at Subi, AIS)
3. Palmer (Playing league and doing some good things)
4. David Myers (Ex AIS playing Wing in the colts)
5. Morton (AIS Utility)
6. Natiuni (AIS Ruck)


Good selections. I also like Winter as a real hard nut. Size is a limiting factor(height not muscle in his case)

The swans boys in Nantuani, Notte and Yarran can be very special.

Snoop Dog
23 May 2007, 20:46
He hasn't grown, so he falls into that category of needing to be exceptional to get passed his lack of height. I've seen him play a couple of times in the WAFL and he finds the ball at will and isn't daunted by mixing it with the bigger bodies, but, his disposal by foot is pretty abysmal. I'd be dissapointed if my team used an early pick on him.

Must admit bit surprised - I have held the view he is very clean with his disposal. I actually think he is good decision maker as well.

He is certainly in my top ten at this stage.

GoOsH1
25 May 2007, 21:36
Couldn't disagree with you more on his disposals. Is the best use of the ball in the 18's and has excellent vision. You are right he is not tall enough to really get the drafters wowing but would be suprised if he isn't a first round pick
I hope he's another 'too small' that gets left to the late teens of the draft, like Daniel Kerr :)

megladon
26 May 2007, 17:06
can anyone post the WA state 20s team to play the state 18s and state country side ......cheers

Gilly1972
28 May 2007, 11:12
*bump*

Did the WA squad have a trial match over the weekend, any of the WA watchers attend? Any match reports?

4th Tier
28 May 2007, 13:15
*bump*

Did the WA squad have a trial match over the weekend, any of the WA watchers attend? Any match reports?



On Saturday afternoon at Subiaco Oval for the 18's, there was a three hour session, looking at game plans etc...

megladon
29 May 2007, 01:06
the 18s thrashed the 20s

Very good state 18s v state 20s game on sunday - played in wetish, slippery and windy conditions. 18 goals to 10 in favour of the 18s not a true indication of how competetive the game was. The 18s have such depth they can bring on a fresh forward line after half time and are all so desperate to stay in the squad it makes them very hard to beat. Well done 20s top effort.
Very fast intense first half saw a 1 goal lead to the 18s at the long break.
Across the center chris maston picked up 18 or so poss ran hard,rhys palmer few less posses but more effective, jared winter was very hard in the packs and at the ball ,daniel rich was very smooth repeatedly turned what looked like easy posses to the 20s into turnovers ,pat mcginnity at his state level debut worked well with his more experienced team mates.
Half backs alex rance and david myers combined well, both ran the ball out of defence. tate pears at chb was solid ,last line defender luke pratt and justin russell were excellent, both worked hard to fill gaps and will be hard to displace.
Forward line struggled early, didnt have a focal point mat deboar worked hard accross the half forward but went very wide. Started with peel ruckman mat breen at chf presented ok but may lack the pace and agillity for chf ,looked better in the ruck . Bottom age ais tall forward tony notte started at full forward - is light framed and seemed to struggle with the stonger backs . Nic natanui opened in the ruck probably won every knock he contested good second efforts and hands in ,chased and tackled well ,rotated with notte and breen ruck to ff ,ff to chf ,chf to ruck didnt work ,cant recall any of the talls taking a mark ,some concern.
Second half saw fresh fowards david gourdis, jarren jacky,and callum leslie
break the forward line open, jacky another state level deb was outstanding great verticle leap, took half a dozen marks is very fast, great side step finished with 3 goals.
david gourdis went to chf was all class led well took strong marks used good speed ,ran the key backs up the ground ,brought the ball back into the corridor with booming kicks allowed palmer and particularly rich to run into an open forward line,finished with 2 goals , rich read the ball off the packs very well finished with 4 goals. Leslie was also very good at the fall of the ball great opportunist gets clear quickly 3 excellent running goals. Another state level deb, matt tedesco was very impressive worked strongly through the center 15 or so poss 2nd half ran very hard used the ball well.
cruise garlett used his high speed well was handy through the center
morton, browne, sweet,sampy ,stirling,hill,yarran,starling ,howlett and skinner didnt play

purple anchor
29 May 2007, 02:37
can anyone post the WA state 20s team to play the state 18s and state country side ......cheers

2007 State Squad as per team sheet on Sun V State 18's

Shawn Colbung (EP), Ben Howlett (PT), Keith Pickett (SF), Brett Eades (C), Denis Armfield (SD) , Andrew Strijk (WP), Preston O'Keefe (C), Ian Richardson (C), Daniel Macaulay (EP), Rhoan Glass (EP), Jonathan Eastwell (EP), Matt Seal (EP), Matthew Giumelli (PT), Joel O'Halloran (S), James Read (C), Kyle Hardingham (EF), Justin Simpson (SD). Chris Billings (P),
Callum Wilson (SF), Keaton McRobb (EF), Leigh Kelly (SF), Scott Delmenico (SF), Liam Anthony (EF), James Thompson (P)

Eastwell and dolmenico were given post game awards. Mybest player pick was Strijk until he was injured in a smothering attempt.

Boy from the West
29 May 2007, 02:58
Gee 18s must be going OK because there was some talent in that 20s team. I heard that Nugent was selected but is injured. Mc Robb is one who has been injured for virtually 2 years and is now cracking a league game for the Sharks. Dark horse for a rookie berth at the draft.

Callum Leslie - not surprised that he played well - clever running forward who knows where the goals are.

An 18s midfield lead by Masto and Palmer looks good but is there a weakness with the talls or was it mainly adverse weather conditions that prevented marking?

Is the 18s team going to play the WAFL league team that has the bye as practice like they did last year?

Gilly1972
29 May 2007, 11:26
Good work Megladon :thumbsu:

The Messenger
29 May 2007, 11:50
Scott Delmenico (SF) what happened to this guy, I remember there was a bit of talk about him a couple of years ago as a really good player? Is this the same guy I'm thinking of KPP, with strong hands or am I off track.

4th Tier
29 May 2007, 11:54
Is the 18s team going to play the WAFL league team that has the bye as practice like they did last year?

Yeah they are going to play combined sides from Peel Thunder, East Fremantle and the WACFL State country team in the coming weeks.


Scott Delmenico (SF) what happened to this guy.

Had alot of injuries (knee?), has been playing reserves in '07, after two league matches at the beginning of the season.

southjoy
1 Jun 2007, 14:35
Very good state 18s v state 20s game on sunday - played in wetish, slippery and windy conditions. 18 goals to 10 in favour of the 18s not a true indication of how competetive the game was. The 18s have such depth they can bring on a fresh forward line after half time and are all so desperate to stay in the squad it makes them very hard to beat. Well done 20s top effort.
Very fast intense first half saw a 1 goal lead to the 18s at the long break.
Across the center chris maston picked up 18 or so poss ran hard,rhys palmer few less posses but more effective, jared winter was very hard in the packs and at the ball ,daniel rich was very smooth repeatedly turned what looked like easy posses to the 20s into turnovers ,pat mcginnity at his state level debut worked well with his more experienced team mates.
Half backs alex rance and david myers combined well, both ran the ball out of defence. tate pears at chb was solid ,last line defender luke pratt and justin russell were excellent, both worked hard to fill gaps and will be hard to displace.
Forward line struggled early, didnt have a focal point mat deboar worked hard accross the half forward but went very wide. Started with peel ruckman mat breen at chf presented ok but may lack the pace and agillity for chf ,looked better in the ruck . Bottom age ais tall forward tony notte started at full forward - is light framed and seemed to struggle with the stonger backs . Nic natanui opened in the ruck probably won every knock he contested good second efforts and hands in ,chased and tackled well ,rotated with notte and breen ruck to ff ,ff to chf ,chf to ruck didnt work ,cant recall any of the talls taking a mark ,some concern.
Second half saw fresh fowards david gourdis, jarren jacky,and callum leslie
break the forward line open, jacky another state level deb was outstanding great verticle leap, took half a dozen marks is very fast, great side step finished with 3 goals.
david gourdis went to chf was all class led well took strong marks used good speed ,ran the key backs up the ground ,brought the ball back into the corridor with booming kicks allowed palmer and particularly rich to run into an open forward line,finished with 2 goals , rich read the ball off the packs very well finished with 4 goals. Leslie was also very good at the fall of the ball great opportunist gets clear quickly 3 excellent running goals. Another state level deb, matt tedesco was very impressive worked strongly through the center 15 or so poss 2nd half ran very hard used the ball well.
cruise garlett used his high speed well was handy through the center
morton, browne, sweet,sampy ,stirling,hill,yarran,starling ,howlett and skinner didnt play


Sampey will be the full forward

mjp
1 Jun 2007, 14:55
Sampey will be the full forward

Shouldn't you be 'peeljoy' now?

megladon
2 Jun 2007, 00:33
Sampey will be the full forward

think your right , he is a very good on the lead, and good 1on1
a big plus of gourdis at chf is he moves the ball quickley and long, will suit sampy. think the open space of subi will suit them both

Boy from the West
2 Jun 2007, 15:22
Anyone know the times and dates for 18s v WAFL games.

I got a lot out of last year's games watching the kids go against established players.

Megladon, you sound like the most informed so please keep up the input. I am a bit trapped at work on weekends at the moment and for the next 3 -4 weeks so appreciate your stuff.

4th Tier
3 Jun 2007, 19:19
how was yesterdays game vs peel

Was close up until the last quarter, then the 18's kicked away!

Playing EF next weekend...

megladon
3 Jun 2007, 21:05
how was yesterdays game vs peel

This was a very difficult game for selectors having to give the border line boys maximum game time . Left out maston, palmer, myers, rich, ellard, rance, garlett, pratt, browne, pears.
Turned out to be a great eye opener for the 18s, peel played a fast, hard running, crumbing side that played on at all costs and attacked fiercely from defence , the boys got a good lesson in accountability with the peel defenders and centre line continually running the ball inside 50.
A disappointed crowd saw a scrappy first half with a 9 goals to 2 lead to peel.
Fist quarter was even 3goals to 2 for peel, no one stood out, winter, mcginnity, deboar were ok across the centre ,started with two chf ‘s sampey who lead down the ground and gourdis across, gourdis did best, very good when the ball is put in front of him, needs to check his mans run off .
Natanui started at ff presented well but wasn’t holding his marks .
Crossland and starling were good defenders, took strong marks willett tried hard, morton was sacrificed at chb but did ok. breen and daws rucked well but still need to take more marks.
6 goals to 0 sounds like a bad second quarter, but good signs from zaph skinner and tony notte both held good marks starling kept up his good work.
Great turn around in the second half, daws rucked well and attacked the marking contests with some big spoils, Venturini did very well 15 poss through the centre, as did winter and russell , Jacky found last weeks form ,marked and crumbed well but must learn to release the ball quicker ,Notte went to chf continued to mark well ,Sampey presented very hard all forwards kicked goals, outstanding third quarter by to Natanui went to ff, lead well held his marks, tackled and chased was unbeaten when he went into the ruck, released runners very well.
Final quarter belonged to the 18s forwards, Chris Yarran ,the youngest in the squad ( 12/90) quite game but left on and given every chance to show up ,didn’t disappoint finished with 4 goals (2 on the lead, 2 snaps) and 2 assists. Gourdis back to chf used his blistering speed to break clear half a dozen times kicked 3 excellent running goals and 2 assists .
Natanui dominated in the ruck ,venturini, winter, leslie, mcginnity jacky,and Tedesco had plenty of run. Breen went to chb morton to fb, daws also had time at chb ,seem to be fishing for another key backman. 15goal to 12 win to the 18s good effort and a couple of good lessons.

Boy from the West
4 Jun 2007, 00:36
Genius Megladon. Appreciated.
Going to the derby tomorrow and should be able to find out details for next week's game.

Streaker
4 Jun 2007, 01:10
Ellard, Rance and Garlett played in the Swan Districts League side against Perth. Anyone wanting a look should watch the replay on ABC2.

Pafloyul
5 Jun 2007, 00:05
One question on Gourdis, was he eligible for the draft last year? There is conflicting information on his age.

Snoop Dog
5 Jun 2007, 09:28
Ellard, Rance and Garlett played in the Swan Districts League side against Perth. Anyone wanting a look should watch the replay on ABC2.

Yeah I was in Perth for work on weekend and got to see it - Rance is a real talent. He will certainly be drafted I would have thought.

megladon
5 Jun 2007, 14:10
One question on Gourdis, was he eligible for the draft last year? There is conflicting information on his age.

definitely 3/89 so was eligible

had some kind of undetected shoulder or neck injury end 2005. dropped out of pre season, didnt play till half way through round 1 last year.
looked unfit and short of game time in 2006 state 18s,trial matches, in last 3 cut
had a very good last round

not 1oo% sure on this but dont think he nominated for last years draft
anyone who saw a draft list may know

southjoy
5 Jun 2007, 14:20
Shouldn't you be 'peeljoy' now?

Good to see that you are still alive. Still working in the system i hope. South for passion but have a soft side for Peel.

mjp
5 Jun 2007, 15:29
Good to see that you are still alive. Still working in the system i hope. South for passion but have a soft side for Peel.

Still in the same role on the Western side of town...more than happy to point out the ladder if you want to know how we are going! :)

I am coming home in December - will have to catch up.

Pafloyul
5 Jun 2007, 17:58
definitely 3/89 so was eligible

had some kind of undetected shoulder or neck injury end 2005. dropped out of pre season, didnt play till half way through round 1 last year.
looked unfit and short of game time in 2006 state 18s,trial matches, in last 3 cut
had a very good last round

not 1oo% sure on this but dont think he nominated for last years draft
anyone who saw a draft list may know

Thanks megalodon, I appreciate the information.

Boy from the West
6 Jun 2007, 14:11
The State 18s squad plays East Fremantle at East Freo oval at 11.15 on Saturday morning this week.

megladon
7 Jun 2007, 22:43
Can i just ask how come Robert Gough (7/89) from Subiaco was not selected in the state 18s squad this year. Was definately the premier ruckman in the colts comp last year and at 197cm and 100 odd kilos i woulda thort he'd be a menacing presence especially against the feeble bodies of the south australians. Can u update me on his whereabouts megladon??:thumbsu:

dont know about being the premier ruckman last year, but did give leuenberger his best strength contests, very good 2nd efforts at bounce downs.
is doing physiotherapy at uni 5 days a week, couldnt commit to colts training, playing amatuer colts at hamersley-carine, being badly missed by subiaco colts.

WCE29#
8 Jun 2007, 01:58
megladon has the state 18's been cutting, as i heard tom willot was dropped from the squad

megladon
8 Jun 2007, 12:55
megladon has the state 18's been cutting, as i heard tom willot was dropped from the squad

Willett (cl) good defender didnt do a lot wrong, maybe just under the skill level
Skinner(cl) injured for 1st game looked ok 2nd game took good marks very talented indiginous boy will stay under notice
Hill (wp) also injured for 1st game did some good things 2nd game another skillful indiginous boy
Howlett (ep) also injured for 1st game did well 2nd game was lively accross half forward marked well but a lot of comp for half forward spots

WCE29#
8 Jun 2007, 14:19
cheers

southjoy
8 Jun 2007, 15:16
dont know about being the premier ruckman last year, but did give leuenberger his best strength contests, very good 2nd efforts at bounce downs.
is doing physiotherapy at uni 5 days a week, couldnt commit to colts training, playing amatuer colts at hamersley-carine, being badly missed by subiaco colts.


Not to mention that Leunberger didn't play a great deal of colts and that Leigh Kelly was the dominant ruckman in the comp when Leuey wasn't playing

Boy from the West
8 Jun 2007, 17:49
Not to mention that Leunberger didn't play a great deal of colts and that Leigh Kelly was the dominant ruckman in the comp when Leuey wasn't playing

Did you forget that Nugent played colts last year?

Buddhy
10 Jun 2007, 04:48
Rob Gough iz da best playa eva!

megladon
10 Jun 2007, 22:50
The State 18s squad plays East Fremantle at East Freo oval at 11.15 on Saturday morning this week.

A disappointing turn out of east freo league and afl listed players saw a 30 goal to 3 goal win to the state 18s in their third trial game.
Not the level of opposition they would have hoped for at this point. In saying that, this is a very good squad, that doesn't depend on any half dozen players.
Outstanding centre line and followers (masten, palmer, rch, garlett, winter, ellard ) who don't go wide, move the ball quickly and direct to their forwards, very good rebouding backs (meyers, rance, browne)(still some uncertainty in the full back line) and higly talented and diverse forward line, excellent leading talls (sampy, gourdis, notte) and brilliant crumbers (jacky, yarren, deboar, leslie), who dont waste the ball, plus the amazing talents of natanui in the ruck.
Squad works well together and looks close, the final 25 will be as good as WA have fielded recently.
One high point of the game came in the last quarter, after a third witch saw the running players stream into the forward and kick goals at will ,the last saw good focus and a return to their forwardline setups.

Boy from the West
10 Jun 2007, 23:43
Megladon thanks for that update.

Pretty disappointed, especially being a shark supporter, to see a sub standard team in. I know how much the state boys need the work out against good opposition because it is red hot at the carnival.

Dunbar strikes again. Dead man walking.

megladon
10 Jun 2007, 23:55
Megladon thanks for that update.

Pretty disappointed, especially being a shark supporter, to see a sub standard team in. I know how much the state boys need the work out against good opposition because it is red hot at the carnival.

Dunbar strikes again. Dead man walking.

Did mean to mention the endeaver of the boys who played wasn't in question they worked very hard ,but were just outgunned.

bbco49
11 Jun 2007, 14:34
megladon all the info is much appreciated. do u know the date when the final team is announced? cheers

megladon
12 Jun 2007, 01:28
megladon all the info is much appreciated. do u know the date when the final team is announced? cheers

WA final 25 by this weekend
VIC metro, VIC country & SA wednesday week

Lingsface
12 Jun 2007, 12:34
willet howlett and skinner all have been cut.

Howlett fired back with a 6 goal 2 behind effort.

southjoy
12 Jun 2007, 12:43
Did you forget that Nugent played colts last year?

Fair point. In the games that EF played SF and caned SF I still thought that Kelly won one of the contests and was even in the second. However for the overall year Nugent was fantastic

bbco49
12 Jun 2007, 23:20
WA final 25 by this weekend
VIC metro, VIC country & SA wednesday week

cheers mate :thumbsu:

Boy from the West
14 Jun 2007, 17:09
Heard the WA squad is down to last 30 and will be finalised after a camp this weekend.

From what I've heard a few surprises in the names who look like missing out.

megladon
17 Jun 2007, 18:20
Heard the WA squad is down to last 30 and will be finalised after a camp this weekend.

From what I've heard a few surprises in the names who look like missing out.

While a couple of high profile players have not been in good form, outside sources (afl scouts) who had some influence in original squad selection, may be the reason for obvious holes and a lack of options for selectors . Of the four unlucky boys to miss the squad, Adam Cocky (subi), James Emberly (swans), Vince Napoli ( perth) and Dillon Ross ( Claremont), Cocky and Emberly are two of the most physically tough colts players, while the 18’s midfield is mentally strong a more physical presence may have been handy, not so much at subi but certainly in confined, heavy conditions in Victoria
The omission of Napoli and Ross in favour of novelty selections Skinner and Hill (both good players, but miles away from this competition level), makes no sense and has left the squad without a fourth ruck option and a key defender short.
While Natanui has been outstanding, Breen and Daws, both work hard in the ruck but have so far failed to take marks and both have shown they are not KPPs’ at either end of the ground, Crossland is a big strong boy and a very good mover, but two games of colts in 10 weeks is a big ask to hold down state level FB.
Ross is an AIS rated key backman and is in good form at CHB, Napoli a very good ruckman who has done battle and matched Kreuzer, Putt and McEvoy in the past and is a good quality CHB.
They may not have made the final 25 but with such a strong midfield and talented forward line, and the supposed size of the Vic teams shouldn’t the squad focus have been on tall defenders.

Boy from the West
18 Jun 2007, 13:14
Meg

Last year they only took 2 ruckmen and Nugent was under utilised. Coach went with Leuenberger and pinch hit with Gumbleton against Vic Metro.

Don't think he considers ruckmen highly so a 4th was never on.

Oddly enough last year they also went in a Key defender short (and that included Mckenzie who was not 100% but was heroic) and got busted.

Heard that Napoli may have lost focus - manager etc on the scene and the kid is getting carried away the wrong way.

megladon
18 Jun 2007, 15:58
Meg

Last year they only took 2 ruckmen and Nugent was under utilised. Coach went with Leuenberger and pinch hit with Gumbleton against Vic Metro.

Don't think he considers ruckmen highly so a 4th was never on.

Oddly enough last year they also went in a Key defender short (and that included Mckenzie who was not 100% but was heroic) and got busted.

Heard that Napoli may have lost focus - manager etc on the scene and the kid is getting carried away the wrong way.

Just looked like the 30 lacked an option, if Crossland doesn’t make the 25 they don’t have a full back , means Rance will have to play FB or worse Sampey or Gourdis will have to go to CHB and Pears to FB.
Rance is much better suited as an attacking half back and would be a shame to break up a functional forward line. Final 25 will tell.
Napoli had an av 2006 thought he was looking much better this year.

Truth Personified
18 Jun 2007, 16:58
Why isnt Christopher Mayne in the 18's?

A standout.

On the weekend I saw one of the best aboriginal talents I have seen for some time playing for Peel.

Sico 17
18 Jun 2007, 19:41
Final 25
Claremont: Matthew DeBoer, Patrick McGinnity, Cale Morton, Simon Starling.
East Fremantle: Chris Masten, Rhys Palmer, James Venturini.
East Perth: Michael Dawes, Tayte Pears, Luke Sampey.
Peel: Matthew Breen.
Perth: Cruize Garlett, David Myers, Justin Russell.
South Fremantle:
Subiaco: David Gourdis, Jarrhan Jacky, Daniel Rich
Swan Districts: David Ellard, Nicholas Naitanui, Tony Notte, Luke Pratt, Alex Rance, Chris Yarran
West Perth: Steven Browne, Mat Tedesco.

Boy from the West
19 Jun 2007, 00:24
Why isnt Christopher Mayne in the 18's?

A standout.

On the weekend I saw one of the best aboriginal talents I have seen for some time playing for Peel.

Too old. Plays colts as a late birthday but ineligible for the Champs.

Sico 17
19 Jun 2007, 00:29
Too old. Plays colts as a late birthday but ineligible for the Champs.
??? His birthday in the budget is listed as 2 November 1989.

Liam#9
19 Jun 2007, 01:23
Sweet from East Perth very unlucky to make the squad i think after racking up alot of possessions in the colts

megladon
19 Jun 2007, 01:24
Final 25
Claremont: Matthew DeBoer, Patrick McGinnity, Cale Morton, Simon Starling.
East Fremantle: Chris Masten, Rhys Palmer, James Venturini.
East Perth: Michael Dawes, Tayte Pears, Luke Sampey.
Peel: Matthew Breen.
Perth: Cruize Garlett, David Myers, Justin Russell.
South Fremantle:
Subiaco: David Gourdis, Jarrhan Jacky, Daniel Rich
Swan Districts: David Ellard, Nicholas Naitanui, Tony Notte, Luke Pratt, Alex Rance, Chris Yarran
West Perth: Steven Browne, Mat Tedesco.

Feel for Aaron Sweet went last cut past 2 years.
Surprised no Winter.
And no obvious fullback

Shaymuhz
19 Jun 2007, 03:49
rance is a big boy but i dont think he can play fullback. crossland is a natural talent who struggled a bit with injuries, dissapointed he wasnt selected as i think he could have done the job.

southjoy
20 Jun 2007, 18:56
Feel for Aaron Sweet went last cut past 2 years.
Surprised no Winter.
And no obvious fullback

No Winter is a very bad decision as he adds along with rich some real hardness at the footy.
Should of been playing 1st's at SF or Colts and not Ressies

Tundrawolf
21 Jun 2007, 01:13
No Winter is a very bad decision as he adds along with rich some real hardness at the footy.
Should of been playing 1st's at SF or Colts and not Ressies

Completely agree, especially when the criticism labelled at previous WA teams is that they aren't as physically mature as their Vic counterparts.
Winter has the perfect build to match the hardness the Vic's possess.

Boy from the West
21 Jun 2007, 02:06
??? His birthday in the budget is listed as 2 November 1989.

All I can say is that my mail came direct from the mouth of the Perth colts coach when I was having a discussion with him about the state team. From what he told me, I'd say the footy budget is wrong.

Seeing as Mayne was not even named in the squad, it appears that it may be the case that he is ineligible. I will double check this week with the coach.

xyakks
21 Jun 2007, 02:15
Oh dear god, the first batch of kids from the 90's. I'm starting to feel old now.

Streaker
21 Jun 2007, 06:38
Oh dear god, the first batch of kids from the 90's. I'm starting to feel old now.

You were born old Yak.

Big Bulldog
22 Jun 2007, 20:57
Can't believe that Winter got cut & that no other players from South Fremantle were invited to the trials. Kallen Bond is in good form playing CHF, has height & strength, South's also have a pretty solid defence with some quality choices,I read in some previous posts that the 18's are possibly lacking a FB. Dissapointing to say the least.

Snoop Dog
22 Jun 2007, 22:05
Looking fwd to seeing Tedesco.

megladon
23 Jun 2007, 01:10
Can't believe that Winter got cut & that no other players from South Fremantle were invited to the trials. Kallen Bond is in good form playing CHF, has height & strength, South's also have a pretty solid defence with some quality choices,I read in some previous posts that the 18's are possibly lacking a FB. Dissapointing to say the least.

Winter was the player hardest at the ball and he hit the packs full on, thought his aggression made it easier for Maston, Palmer, Ellard and Garlett, Rich makes his own plays. Do like Bond, havn't seen him play back, could have been interesting.
Been a lot of talk about Kruezer (vic metro) at CHF dont see it myself he's still half an unco, but there may be an idea to run Daws on him wherever he plays, could let Pears go to FB.
The strength of this squad is the midfield they're very experienced and won't go wide, if they go direct to Gourdis (CHF) and Sampey(FF) may see the backs have it a bit easier then the last couple of years.

ChipDouglas
23 Jun 2007, 14:24
Winter was the player hardest at the ball and he hit the packs full on, thought his aggression made it easier for Maston, Palmer, Ellard and Garlett, Rich makes his own plays. Do like Bond, havn't seen him play back, could have been interesting.
Been a lot of talk about Kruezer (vic metro) at CHF dont see it myself he's still half an unco, but there may be an idea to run Daws on him wherever he plays, could let Pears go to FB.
The strength of this squad is the midfield they're very experienced and won't go wide, if they go direct to Gourdis (CHF) and Sampey(FF) may see the backs have it a bit easier then the last couple of years.
I haven't heard anyone describe Kreuzer as "half unco" are you serious? He'll be pick 1 or 2 and I doubt many clubs would make that sort of investment in a half unco player.

megladon
24 Jun 2007, 16:45
I haven't heard anyone describe Kreuzer as "half unco" are you serious? He'll be pick 1 or 2 and I doubt many clubs would make that sort of investment in a half unco player.

Your right Chip that was poor wording Kreuzer is an outstanding ruckman forward, just mean't he looks more like a ruckman /resting forward then a hard leading CHF, is a much better mark under the ball then hitting it front on at speed.
Has played so well at state level as a defensive ruckman, loves to push back into the leading forwards space, couldn't see Metro loosing that part of his game unless they had no other real option at CHF.
However was sitting next to a Victorian V.I.P. at the the W.A 18s final trial match yesterday he was talking with half a dozen afl scouts after the game and made no secret of the fact Kreuzer would play at CHF in the 18s champs.....stand corrected on two counts.

macca69
28 Jun 2007, 00:56
Your right Chip that was poor wording Kreuzer is an outstanding ruckman forward, just mean't he looks more like a ruckman /resting forward then a hard leading CHF, is a much better mark under the ball then hitting it front on at speed.
Has played so well at state level as a defensive ruckman, loves to push back into the leading forwards space, couldn't see Metro loosing that part of his game unless they had no other real option at CHF.
However was sitting next to a Victorian V.I.P. at the the W.A 18s final trial match yesterday he was talking with half a dozen afl scouts after the game and made no secret of the fact Kreuzer would play at CHF in the 18s champs.....stand corrected on two counts.

Going on previous years, it'd be nigh-on impossible to try and predict a Metro lineup, but Darcy Daniher would be the logical choice for a CHF, although he looks locked into CHB. If not Daniher, I'd go Croft as CHF as that's easily his best position, even though he's never played there for Oakleigh. But he's locked into a KP defender too. Hurley's another, but again he looks like he'll be played as a key defender too, going on the trial games.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if Kruezer started at CHF, if it's not him it'll be Lobbe or possibly Gaertner IMO.

Gilly1972
28 Jun 2007, 01:10
Going on previous years, it'd be nigh-on impossible to try and predict a Metro lineup, but Darcy Daniher would be the logical choice for a CHF, although he looks locked into CHB. If not Daniher, I'd go Croft as CHF as that's easily his best position, even though he's never played there for Oakleigh. But he's locked into a KP defender too. Hurley's another, but again he looks like he'll be played as a key defender too, going on the trial games.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if Kruezer started at CHF, if it's not him it'll be Lobbe or possibly Gaertner IMO.

FWIW, Gilly's 2 cents worth... I think it would be a shame to sacrifice kreuzers work around the ground and also dropping a kick behnd the play down back by playing him across CHF. If I were picking a spine, I would play Croft at FB (looked ok there in the VCVM trial), Daniher at CHB, if they want a big body at CHF then Hurley. FF is where I get stuck...seems an awful waste of Gaertners mobility and dash out of defence to 'hide' him at FF. Simpson could perhaps start there, or even Laidler as a smaller more mobile leading FF (might like the open spaces of Subi, and also has some of the stickiest hands I have seen).

Lingsface
28 Jun 2007, 11:23
FWIW, Gilly's 2 cents worth... I think it would be a shame to sacrifice kreuzers work around the ground and also dropping a kick behnd the play down back by playing him across CHF. If I were picking a spine, I would play Croft at FB (looked ok there in the VCVM trial), Daniher at CHB, if they want a big body at CHF then Hurley. FF is where I get stuck...seems an awful waste of Gaertners mobility and dash out of defence to 'hide' him at FF. Simpson could perhaps start there, or even Laidler as a smaller more mobile leading FF (might like the open spaces of Subi, and also has some of the stickiest hands I have seen).

should play players where they are going to be drafted to play and where they usually play or else it is unfair on scouts and the boys them selves, look at WA backline last year, they didnt even pick any kpp backmen apart from Mckenzie really and because of this he had to play to deep and his main qualities where taken away.

Kreuzer should play ruck nothing better than seeing a young ruckmen grab hold of a game, he will be a deaadset gun RUCKMEN in the AFL. Speaking to someone who played against him last year, he admitted that Kreuzer was well ahead of where he was at the same stage in there juniors.

borderbarry
28 Jun 2007, 12:31
How many Indigenous boys made the list, and are there any others that may be drafted?

megladon
28 Jun 2007, 13:35
How many Indigenous boys made the list, and are there any others that may be drafted?

Cruise Garlett 172cm super quick midfeild

Jarhan Jacky 180cm very quick excellent leap half forward

Chris Yarran 179cm quick good leap very good overhead forward
pocket

Least amount of indigenous boys for many years.

A couple of AFL scouts like Zaph Skinner 187cm play anywhere and Chris Mayne 178cm midfeild forward (has taken 90 mark in 10 games for Perth colts this year)

Lingsface
28 Jun 2007, 13:58
Cruise Garlett 172cm super quick midfeild

Jarhan Jacky 180cm very quick excellent leap half forward

Chris Yarran 179cm quick good leap very good overhead forward
pocket

Least amount of indigenous boys for many years.

A couple of AFL scouts like Zaph Skinner 187cm play anywhere and Chris Mayne 178cm midfeild forward (has taken 90 mark in 10 games for Perth colts this year)

yeah very different team this year to last I would say more of a team that i see being well drilled and maybe doing alright because of the lack of absoloute stars, the indigenous boys will be used well I think and maybe too many were picked last year for the ground conditions, in saying that would be interesting to see how the boys would of gone on subiaco I think alot better. Yarran was impressive last year in the 16s and should slot in for a few goals, will jacky play hbf area? And cruise garlett is all class will rotate through midfield I would of thought. Zaph Skinner 187 cm plays ruck for colts at claremont hardly ever beaten very similar to carl peterson last year except a year younger and playing colts.

wce4premiership
6 Mar 2008, 21:46
omg i went to school with napoli.