Brisbane V Richmond @ Telstra Dome Saturday 2nd June 2007

[lionbear]

What do we think of this one people?

Can Brisbane strike back after 2 tough games, or will the Tigers bring up there 1st win for 2007.

Could be a intresting game.

[TheBrownDog]

What do we think of this one people?

Can Brisbane strike back after 2 tough games, or will the Tigers bring up there 1st win for 2007.

Could be a intresting game.

The Adelaide game wasn't tough? :p

[lionbear]

The Adelaide game wasn't tough? :p

I just meant in the sense that we where not singing the club song at the end of the night.

[Sherminator.]

I'll be there, I hope Brisbane can replicate it's form from the Carlton game and bury Richmond, but it'll be a hard match against two relatively young teams.

I'll be hoping for a great battle of the class of '04 (Deledio v Sherman). Also hope Mitch Clark replicated his form from last night (Another 3-5), and I hope Browny can kick straight.

I think Bozo will be dropped and Wood will come in.

[Black*]

I Think Brisbane will have to be very careful of the Tigers, 95% of tippers will be tipping Brisbane But I have a feeling this game will be alot closer than what people are expecting it to be. I don't have a good feeling about this game, I have a very strong feeling that Richmond will win their first game next week against us.

They were robbed last night they will be out for blood next week and I feel the Lions will be their first victim.

[irel]

I just meant in the sense that we where not singing the club song at the end of the night.
Blow me, I missed the club song vs Adelaide. Can someone please upload it on youtube? :rolleyes:

[Black*]

Ok whats the story about the club Song against adelaide? I have no idea what you are talking about?:confused:

[lion_gooner]

im not actually looking forward to another floodathon on saturday night

wont be a good game to watch at all i reckon

[irel]

Ok whats the story about the club Song against adelaide? I have no idea what you are talking about?:confused:
Generally you have to win the game to sing the song!

[Black*]

Generally you have to win the game to sing the song!
Well **** I knew that :rolleyes: I thought there was something else about it that I had missed.

[lionbear]

Merrett vs Richardson could be where this game is decided.

[emperor]

Merrett vs Richardson could be where this game is decided.

and the j .brown match up is key too. he has the potential to rip us apart next week, we are not exactly flush with strong bodied defenders atm

[Grimreepah]

I'm also interested to see who will line up on Brown and Clark. Richmond seem to lack that big bodied key defender, so Brown may camp in the forward 50 and try and outmuscle his opponents.

edit: great minds emperor;)

[RichosGuns]

I'm also interested to see who will line up on Brown and Clark. Richmond seem to lack that big bodied key defender, so Brown may camp in the forward 50 and try and outmuscle his opponents.

edit: great minds emperor;)

Thurstfield Vs Clarke: Thurstfield will be giving up 8cm or so, but its the most likely match-up
JBowden Vs Brown: Bowden has played well on him the last year or so
Polak/Newman loose: Polak is a great mark when playing loose, and Newman played well in the roll last night

[Grimreepah]

Last time we played you lot Patrick Bowden had about 95 possessions against us. Is he injured or just out of form?

[emperor]

indeed grim:cool:

probably be bowden only because he has the footy smarts that a player like Thursfield is yet to acquire. Polak is not suited to that type of role.

IMO Richo could have a big night out, i reckon he'd have the wood on any of the Lions defenders. But the Lions have a better ruck/midfield division which is where we fall down. Tigers need another big one from Deledio and Newman off half back and Foley needs to get his hands on the pill before Black:)

[emperor]

Last time we played you lot Patrick Bowden had about 95 possessions against us. Is he injured or just out of form?

out of form..but in reality a fairly ordinary player who I'm glad to see not in the side.

[Grimreepah]

IMO Richo could have a big night out, i reckon he'd have the wood on any of the Lions defenders. But the Lions have a better ruck/midfield division which is where we fall down. Tigers need another big one from Deledio and Newman off half back and Foley needs to get his hands on the pill before Black:)

I think Merrett can cover Richo for size and Mills for endurance. My guess is that Merrett will go on him to start, and when he tires Mills will get the job, and that will be the match up that Richo could exploit. Can't believe he's even playing after getting a fractured eye socket.

[emperor]

I think Merrett can cover Richo for size and Mills for endurance. My guess is that Merrett will go on him to start, and when he tires Mills will get the job, and that will be the match up that Richo could exploit. Can't believe he's even playing after getting a fractured eye socket.

Merrett and Mills will learn about a true forward work rate this weekend:cool: Merrett might be on par for size, but Richo is the master of the contested situation. If Merrett can keep Richo quiet it would be a monster effort.

[Aristotel]

Richmond's first win for season 2007 coming up...:thumbsu:

You lot are not very good and are too one-dimentional.

[TheBrownDog]

Richmond's first win for season 2007 coming up...:thumbsu:

You lot are not very good and are too one-dimentional.

At least we can take comfort in the knowledge that we can spell.

[rfctigerarmy]

Should be a good game. I dont think 95% of tipsters will be tipping Richmond.. :rolleyes:

[LuckyLuke]

Merrett and Mills will learn about a true forward work rate this weekend:cool: Merrett might be on par for size, but Richo is the master of the contested situation. If Merrett can keep Richo quiet it would be a monster effort.

Merrett has held better forwards than Richo this year. Funny how you rate Richo highly one week, then he's useless the next.:rolleyes:

[Sherminator.]

Merrett has held better forwards than Richo this year. Funny how you rate Richo highly one week, then he's useless the next.:rolleyes:
And when he is useless the next week, they're calling for his and demanding he be dumped and so forth.

[Chasing the Dream]

Can't wait for the game, it is my first trip down to Melbourne for the season.


I think we will be able to bounce back and get back into the winners circle.:thumbsu:

[Black*]

Should be a good game. I dont think 95% of tipsters will be tipping Richmond.. :rolleyes:
**** thanks for pointing that out I did mean Brisbane :o

[TheBrownDog]

im not actually looking forward to another floodathon on saturday night

wont be a good game to watch at all i reckon

I don't think Richmond beat us by 80+ points last year by flooding.

I've watched a few of their games this year as well, they play a pretty attacking brand of football.

[camsmith]

im not actually looking forward to another floodathon on saturday night

wont be a good game to watch at all i reckon

:rolleyes:

Almost every side's supporters have said that prior to our games this year, every time they have been proved wrong.

Last year against you guys the only flood i saw were the flood of goals.

Last time we played you lot Patrick Bowden had about 95 possessions against us. Is he injured or just out of form?

Injured.

I don't think Richmond beat us by 80+ points last year by flooding.

I've watched a few of their games this year as well, they play a pretty attacking brand of football.

Yep, some of the reason we're still winless is because we dont flood when we probably should. We've given up some big leads this year and played into the hands of teams like Sydney and the Dogs by just bombing away to the forward line , only to see it coming back at us twice as fast on the break.

Saying that, I hope we dont revert to crappy flooding tactics.. and im sure we wont.

Good luck.

[lookkg386]

im not actually looking forward to another floodathon on saturday night

wont be a good game to watch at all i reckon


Why still think we flood, haven't done it all year, didn't do it against Geelong, won't do it against you guys.:confused:

[Dr Pea P.I]

Finally got around to watching the Collingwood game and can say that if we can repair our goal inaccuracy (i know it is easier said then done) and iron out some of the mindless defence errors (like two-three players continuing to spoil at the same time, trying to take on players 15 meters from goal (looking at you, Merret) and giving away silly critical free kicks; then we will win. Richmond, however, have always been a bogey team for us.
I have a feeling, win or lose, that Jon Brown will find his goal kicking boots again this week.
Anyone know if Johno will be back next week? I think we need him down back to give the boys some experience and direction - now that we have Mitch as the target we were missing up front (and hopefully Mcgrath comes up ok) we can afford to have Johno down back and switch up forward if needed.

[Tim the Toolman]

By weight of numbers, goal inefficiency isn't going to lose you games week in week out. We need to to convert F50 entries as a rule. Whilst there were short bursts of some front and centres for Browny's crumbes, there wasn't consistently enough of them.

Unfortunately we will be handing Richmond their first win for the season. :mad:

[Tim the Toolman]

As if Richmond would need to flood against a one-dimensional lions forward line anyway? Shows his smarts there and then!

[Deledio2Tambling]

Patrick Bowden is injured with a hip. That's why he hasn't been in the side.

[Bifrost]

out of form..but in reality a fairly ordinary player who I'm glad to see not in the side.What delediototambling said. Not out of form - injured.

I'm looking forward to the game though. Whichever way the result goes, it SHOULD be a good contest. Richmond might be winless, but Brisbane is not exactly setting the ladder alight.

I reckon Richmond's loss in Round 9 could send them either way - make them sullen and defeatist or make them angry. I'm hoping it's the latter.

[itsintheblood]

Merrett vs Richardson could be where this game is decided.

I feel sorry for Merrett. Richo will not be in a good mood this week.

[konstas_87]

both sides have a pretty poor defence, if we want to start winning games again we have to win it around the ground before we worry about the two ends.

[Homer Jnr]

Black, Power, Rischa and Stiller hold the key.

Dominate the clearances and we'll be sweet. Quick and clean delivery to Brown and Clark will set us up nicely.

Much the same, if the Tiges midfield gain the ascendency, then Richo and co up forward will make us look ordinary.

In my opinion, this is one week where our midfield should be the ones totally dictating the game.

When we lose by over about 5 goals, its generally because for more than half the game, we get absolutely belted in the clearances.

This week Charmo and Beau are a good chance of getting first hand to the pill more times than not. What happens at ground level will dictate things.

[POBT]

Richmond are not as bad as the ladder suggests. They still do some really dumb things at really inopportune times but they generate a lot of run and do pretty well in and under. They could quite reasonably argue that they are in better form than us atm. They won't go through the season without a win and I get the impression that 1 win will lead to 3 or 4 more in quick succession. I just hope we don't kick that off.

[lionbear]

Richmond are not as bad as the ladder suggests. They still do some really dumb things at really inopportune times but they generate a lot of run and do pretty well in and under. They could quite reasonably argue that they are in better form than us atm. They won't go through the season without a win and I get the impression that 1 win will lead to 3 or 4 more in quick succession. I just hope we don't kick that off.

Yes thats what I am worried about, thought they had the game won Saturday night but 5 mins is all it takes.

[emperor]

They still do some really dumb things at really inopportune times .

What else do you expect with Richo in the team:p

I agree with the rest of that post POBT, the Tigers just need to 'learn' how to ice a game and not freeze up in the dying stages and gift the opposition clearances and rebound opportunities through diabolical clangers.

If Richmond are up by any less than 4 or 5 goals with under ten minutes to go on Saturday, Brisbane will win:o ;)

[lion_gooner]

you wouldnt imagine there would be as much flooding as what there was last time would you?

[emperor]

you wouldnt imagine there would be as much flooding as what there was last time would you?

ahah a victim of flooding yet still defeated by 80+ points. lions must have been real shithouse:rolleyes:

[mabus]

i would like to be confident of a victory, but richmond have a habit of beating us, plus theyll be either very very angry, or very very depressed. as long as we can get it to brown and clark quickly and cleanly we should have the upper hand

[tigerT]

Guarantee you that this will be the "J.Brown is back" game. We have a habit of playing champions back into form :rolleyes:


Having said that i expect it to be a good game

[CoZi36]

http://news.realfooty.com.au/lions-need-to-stop-moping-says-lethal/20073428-fab.html good article.

Monday 28 May - Saturday 2 June is Anti-Eeyore Week at the Lions! :thumbsu:

[OldLion]

Last year's game v Tigers was probably the lowest ebb the club has been - and I had to endure 20+years of Tiger frustration at about 1000 decibels, complete with spittle and and gross profanity .. and wear it. Please .. I do not want that again .. but I suspect it may happen as the air has left our collective tyres. Groan.

[Kochie 16]

Last year's game v Tigers was probably the lowest ebb the club has been - and I had to endure 20+years of Tiger frustration at about 1000 decibels, complete with spittle and and gross profanity .. and wear it. Please .. I do not want that again .. but I suspect it may happen as the air has left our collective tyres. Groan.
It was alos the game where i saw the worst ever umpire decision, The 'double for nothing' goal (In case you are wondering, It was the bullshit decision to give 2 goals to richmond instead of the correct rushed behind decision from luke power):thumbsd: :mad: . It was horrible to watch. This time richmond are down in the dumps and should lose, but give our current form, we aren't doing much better either. Should be a close one.

[Grimreepah]

It was alos the game where i saw the worst ever umpire decision, The 'double for nothing' goal (In case you are wondering, It was the bullshit decision to give 2 goals to richmond instead of the correct rushed behind decision from luke power):thumbsd: :mad: .

Yeah, that's right. I recall Luke Power and Patrick Bowden involved in that incident. I was in disbelief at the time.

[Lace Out]

I watched that game with 3 Richmond supporting mates who believed they were going to be an AFL superpower this year:p

[thegrach]

I think this is a turning point for both clubs. If the Tiges win it, I think some of the kids will get some confidence out of it, and we might have a few good wins in the second half of the year.

If the Lions win it, it might be enough for them to turn it around and win enough games to make the finals. I think you will find that every team will have a trough through the year, it is how long it takes to rebound that tells whether finals are a shot.

[acuguy]

Potential Changes for this game must include

C.Johnson ( if fit in)

Wood for McDonald

Begley

Allan,

they must all be considered

personally i want Hooper playing, i know bringing him in won't change a hell of a lot, but i am a big believer in playing the blokes you think will get you there in the future. Big Kevin Sheedy would be playing Hooper!

[Quigley]

By the sound of it Begs and Cam are a big chance. For me I wouldn't mind seeing Schmidt get a run as from the sound of it he has been the most consistent performer for the Suncoast over the last few weeks.

On Hooper I expect the coaching staff have told him he is in line for some games in the second half of the year. We had enough problems last year with disciplinary problems with one of our small forwards and I would expect that with spirit so good (apparently) they don't want to encourage anyone to think they can mess with it. You don't want to let the young guys get away with slacking off right from the start and thinking there will not be consequences. We haven't heard boo our of Rhan since the beginning of the year and I am betting that is just what the team wanted. We could certainly use his defensive pressure at the moment and if he keeps playing well I would not expect him to be far away.

I am going to miss this weeks match (going to the soccer international with my father in law) so I am going to have to pass the torch on to someone else this week for the long meandering match report. I will be eagerly awaiting the reports.

[Sherminator.]

Woody and Johnson will most certainly be back, Wood is the one to replace McDonald. Johnson could be in for McGrath (injured ankle still?).

I also agree with Quigs who has been saying Schmidt has deserved a game for the last few rounds, and I thinke must be getting close. He most definately deserves to play, and the longer the postpone it, the more annoyed I will be getting. ;)

[Grimreepah]

I also agree with Quigs who has been saying Schmidt has deserved a game for the last few rounds, and I thinke must be getting close. He most definately deserves to play, and the longer the postpone it, the more annoyed I will be getting. ;)

Who would you drop to fit Schmidt in?

[Quigley]

Who would you drop to fit Schmidt in?
Fixter didn't have much of a match last time out. He might be in danger of getting another week off.

[The Flying Belgian]

Fixter didn't have much of a match last time out. He might be in danger of getting another week off.

Fixter was on light duties last night - must be carrying a niggle.

[blynd_freddie]

Who would you drop to fit Schmidt in?

Fixter didn't have much of a match last time out. He might be in danger of getting another week off.

I know I have also hinted that Chris Schmidt must be very close to gaining selection, but I now believe Sherman will be given the nod.
Yes, I know it's what you do with the ball that counts but Sherman's 56 (21+35) possessions in the two games against Richmond last year suggests there should be an aura of mental positiveness surrounding him. Something that TBD has already alluded us to in his training report of yesterday. I'm sure Leigh would also be wanting this to engulf the rest of the players for the trip down south.

[The Flying Belgian]

Yes, I know it's what you do with the ball that counts but Sherman's 56 (21+35) possessions in the two games against Richmond last year suggests there should be an aura of mental positiveness surrounding him. Something that TBD has already alluded us to in his training report of yesterday. I'm sure Leigh would also be wanting this to engulf the rest of the players for the trip down south.

I was there for most of the session, unlike some others who refuse to include bibliographies in their reports :p, and I'd agree that there was something about his body language that suggests he's set for a big'un. Of course, sometimes you don't have as control over that as you'd like, but I reckon he'd be the guy on our list more likely to be motivated by a milestone game.

[thegrach]

Anyone know how Brown is travelling? Looked a bit sore in the closing minutes Saturday night, just wondering if he has trained this week?

[buffalopride]

Merrett and Mills will learn about a true forward work rate this weekend:cool: Merrett might be on par for size, but Richo is the master of the contested situation. If Merrett can keep Richo quiet it would be a monster effort.


richo is unstoppable eg: last years efforts.

[The Flying Belgian]

Anyone know how Brown is travelling? Looked a bit sore in the closing minutes Saturday night, just wondering if he has trained this week?

Mondays are closed sessions so, no clues there. Didn't train yesterday - was just out doing som stationary work. But didn't look particluarly sore to me. He usually skips one training session a week and with us travelling he may want to have a run on Friday down there.

[POBT]

People on here know that I am a big Richo fan and also have a real soft spot for the Tiges (I barracked for them pre-Brisbane joining the VFL) but geez Richmond fans have unrealistic expectations of him. If it were against any other side I would be hoping that he kicks 10 and the Tigers win by plenty so I don't say this lightly but....

The guy is 32. He is playing virtually a lone hand as a forward with youngsters and unfulfilled talents for company. While he has been a consistent goal kicker all year, he has yet to really tear an opposition side to shreds - although last week he was very good. He is still averaging less than 2.5 goals and about 13 possessions a game this season. Those are good stats for a 32 year old playing in a poorly performing side. If I were a Tigers fan, I would be just grateful that I still had him in my side and performing well at an age when most key forwards have put their feet up. I wouldn't be talking him up as "unstoppable".

The fact is, if Richo kicks 3 goals and gets 15 possies (which is better than his season average), I would consider that Merrett has done an OK job and I would also expect that we will be in a pretty good position to win the game. But a 3 goal/15 possession game is hardly an "unstoppable" performance. Having said that, that is the sort of performance that Tigers fans should be very satisfied with from Richo. If Richo can do that and then Tigers still lose, it is not as though Richo is to blame.

We went through the same thing with Lynchy in his later years. Every now and then he might produce a performance out of the blue and kick a big bag. But Lions fans were more than happy with 2-3 goals and a really strong contest up forward. Richmond fans should be equally satisfied with a similar performance from Richo.

FWIW, Merrett has been very good defensively this year. Richmond fans aren't the first to come on here and say "While your fullback has done OK he'll come unstuck against [insert name of opposition full forward] this week." Eventually, Merrett might get the kudos he deserves for winning far more contests than he loses. He's been doing it all season and I wonder when the general footy fan will start to realise that he's probably not just on a lucky streak.

Now I have written that, I spose I've jinxed it and Richo will kick 10 and Merrett will play like Zac Dawson!

[emperor]

POBT I agree entirely, a 3 or 4 goal output from Richo is more than satisfactory. Tiger fans just like to daydream about Richo kicking a huge bag because therer is no other feeling like it when he does and we win :thumbsu: :p Deep down we all know a couple of goals a game from the big fella is all we should expect.

In all honesty too he looked more dangerous last week than he has for some time (as did our entire forward line) which might explain the overzealous predictions. I believe the much maligned Kent Kingsley is partly responsible for this because he dishes off to teammates and is pretty smart in terms of positioning and leading. Players like Pettifer and Schulz are great when they are on but give absolutely no value when they are down, whereas Kingsley didn't have a superb game but still contributed to a functioning forward line. Hopefully his footy smarts can rub off on the likes of Schulz and Pettifer.

[TheBrownDog]

TEAM NAMED

IN: Hooper, Begley, Brennan, Schmidt, Johnson
OUT: McGrath (inj), Mills, Roe, McDonald, Fixter



B: Johnson, Merrett, Brennan
HB: Adcock, Drummond, Copeland
C: Selwood, Lappin, Stiller
HF: Sherman, Brown, Notting
F: Rischitelli, Patfull, Clark
R: Charman, Black, Power
I: Hadley, Hooper, Schmidt, Begley
E: Harding, Macdonald, Wood

[TheBrownDog]

One ruckman (not including Clark).

Mitch must be going to putch hit in the ruck at some stage, either that or Jamie is in for a big night.

[Grimreepah]

Only one ruckman?

Well done to Hooper for fighting his way back, and well done to Schmidt playing his first game.:thumbsu:

[TheBrownDog]

Congratulations to Schmidty who has earned his call-up.

Congrats to Hooper as well.

[TheBrownDog]

Schmidt to Debut
From LIONS.COM.AU (http://www.lions.com.au)

18-year old Chris Schmidt has been selected to make his senior debut for the Vodafone Brisbane Lions on Saturday night against Richmond.

Schmidt was selected by the Lions with pick 34 in last years AFL National Draft and hails from West Adelaide. He has been knocking on the selection door for a number of weeks now following a string of impressive performances with the Suncoast Lions. This week he has been given his opportunity.

Schmidt is one of five changes the Lions have made Saturday night's match. The senior team also welcomes co-captain Chris Johnson, Jared Brennan, Colm Begley and Rhan Hooper.

Hooper, 19, will play his first match of the 2006 season after bursting onto the AFL scene last year.

Ashley McGrath will miss this weekend's match with a sore knee. Together with Jonathan Brown, McGrath leads the team in goals this season with 20.

Wayde Mills, Jason Roe, Beau McDonald and Ben Fixter have all been omitted from the side that lost to Collingwood by 33 points.

Richmond have recalled Jay Schulz, Matt White and Dean Polo in place of Andrew Krakouer, Danny Meyer and Jack Riewoldt.

The Lions full team is:

B: Chris Johnson (2), Daniel Merrett (21), Jared Brennan (17)
HB: Jed Adcock (7), Josh Drummond (39), Robert Copeland (30)
C: Troy Selwood (28), Nigel Lappin (44), Cheynee Stiller (32)
HF: Justin Sherman (11), Jonathan Brown (16), Tim Notting (8)
F: Michael Rischitelli (35), Joel Patfull (24), Mitch Clark (1)
Foll: Jamie Charman (19), Simon Black (20), Luke Power (6)
Int: Richard Hadley (14), Rhan Hooper (33), Chris Schmidt (13), Colm Begley (46)

Emerg: Scott Harding (5), Joel Macdonald (26), Cameron Wood (31)


Alot of experimentation going on.

[notting18]

Good to see Schmidt getting a game, seems to have been doing very well for himself in the twos.

Interesting to see Hooper in despite Leigh ruling him out mid-week - maybe Leigh was expecting Ash to be fit and thus no need for hooper?

Personally i think Mills should've been given another chance, i still am not a fan of Brennan down back - even though he has less responsibility against Schultz (who i'd expect him to play on).

Besides that i would've expected the rest, should also be pointed out that Wood is the Emergency and not McDonald......no need for two ruckmen against Richmond, but does that mean Wood is in next week?

[TheBrownDog]

Personally i think Mills should've been given another chance, i still am not a fan of Brennan down back.


Agreed.

As for Wood, I actually expected him to be named this week.

[blackclaw]

shake it up

anyone else loving this? I think it's great that some big changes have been made in the last fortnight.

Can't say i disagree with any of the ones this week, although the forward line will be very interesting to watch, I am expecting a fair bit of rotation throughout the night with Mitch, Patful, Jamie, Johnno acting as key targets at some stage (aside from Browny) and both Hooper and Schmidt, as well as some of the midfielders as crumbers. Am really keen to see Schmidt in action. Also, I really would like to see Lukey in the forward pocket, still, we will see.

looking forward to the match!

[blackclaw]

also agree with the Mills comment made above.

I haven't been following the forum closely this week so I don't know how Brennan performed in the seconds, perhaps he did earn his spot back.

Brennan just makes me uneasy. Fantastic talent, but always unsure how he is going to go - this has all been said before. Mills isn't as flashy, but when the ball is in the backline, I would prefer to see a player who is committed, rather than a great talent that seems so inconsistant. I hope Jared does well, but would like Mills to get some games together at some stage of the season.

[footyfan_25]

Only one ruckman?


We only have one ruckmen guys. Have all season.

Charman can match it with Pattison easily and we have no back-up ruck.

Believe it or not we have had Tuck rucking at times this year :eek:

[Vipertooth]

I am very excited about the mix up, I am especialy excited to see the return of the speedster :) GO HOOPER :D :thumbsu:

As everyone has been saying Schmidt deserves a game, and i cannot wait too see what all the fuss is about.

Major thing I love with the team mixing up like this is the fact that we CAN do it, last season we had no options at all.

I find it strange that we only have charmen as our ruckman and I do not like the idea of Clark rucking, he should be put into the foward line with no other distractions and concentrate as hard as he can!!!

With all that said :D

GO LIONS :thumbsu: :thumbsu: :thumbsu:

[notting18]

I find it strange that we only have charmen as our ruckman and I do not like the idea of Clark rucking, he should be put into the foward line with no other distractions and concentrate as hard as he can!!!


I agree, but who knows maybe id we use Brown in the forward 50 Charman can do with whole game without that being needed. Brennan was tried in the ruck against the Saints a few years back - if anyone remembers it, it didn't fair well for Brennan who got crunched and had Voss say something like "get up - don't show weakness" - maybe if he has learnt he might have a run in that position as well:rolleyes:

[Warwick]

One ruckman is the way to go against the Tigers. We should have absolutely dominated the ruck the past couple of weeks considering the ruck opposition, but we haven't. Our rucks have been disappointing this year - it should be a strength (we have enough of them). Richmond have probably the weakest ruck division in the league at the moment, so why not just have Charman and add another running player?

I'm not a huge fan of having 5 changes this week. I think there was a similar number last week. It just un-seatles the team by making mass changes - but if that is what it takes for the boys to fire up, so be it.

Good luck to Schmidty in his first game. :thumbsu: And to Hooper as well. Let's hope he can get his hand on the ball, and apply plenty of pressure in our forward line.

[Snuka]

One ruckman is the way to go against the Tigers. We should have absolutely dominated the ruck the past couple of weeks considering the ruck opposition, but we haven't. Our rucks have been disappointing this year - it should be a strength (we have enough of them). Richmond have probably the weakest ruck division in the league at the moment, so why not just have Charman and add another running player?
I'm not a huge fan of having 5 changes this week. I think there was a similar number last week. It just un-seatles the team by making mass changes - but if that is what it takes for the boys to fire up, so be it.

Good luck to Schmidty in his first game. :thumbsu: And to Hooper as well. Let's hope he can get his hand on the ball, and apply plenty of pressure in our forward line.

Some good points Waz, for a ruck group talked about as having too much quality to hang on too they havent been performing. Recently looking at the team sheets before there often looks a big advantage to Brisbane in the ruck. This has been proven only to be the case 'on paper'.

Great for Schmidt (although I know nothing about the kid), always good to see some new blokes.

[RichosGuns]

Not trolling...

Now that we have the teams, just want to know who your key match up's would be?

Noticed you dropped Mills which is odd, considering we're playing Schultz, Kingsley and Richo...maybe a late inclusion. Who do you expect will go to these 3?

Merrit on Richo
Schultz on Brennan
Johnson on Kingsley
Copeland on Pettifer

In the middle you kill us. Our taggers will probably be:
Johnson on Black
Polo on Rischetteli
Jackson on Lappin
Foley, Tuck and Tivendale(might tag if one of the top 3 fail) free

Our backline will probably be:
Raines on Power
Thurstfiel on Clarke
JBowden on Brown (with Newman/Polak filling in the space in front)
Polak/Newman looseman in defence
King on Sherman
White on Patfull

Does this sound about right?
What would you guys have?

[TheBrownDog]

Great for Schmidt (although I know nothing about the kid), always good to see some new blokes.

Plays like Scott West. Gets the ball in traffic, finds space, then finds the right option.

[Vipertooth]

Plays like Scott West. Gets the ball in traffic, finds space, then finds the right option.

SOLD!!!

[BigCat2]

Plays like Scott West. Gets the ball in traffic, finds space, then finds the right option.

I thought Schmidt was slightly more 'outside', and gets possessions, but uses the ball rather well? Sounds pretty different to West to me.

Anyway he's 189cm but may still have some growth left in him. Quigs one time opened my eyes to the possibility of Chris Schmidt playing at CHB for us one day.

[TheBrownDog]

I thought Schmidt was slightly more 'outside', and gets possessions, but uses the ball rather well? Sounds pretty different to West to me.

Anyway he's 189cm but may still have some growth left in him. Quigs one time opened my eyes to the possibility of Chris Schmidt playing at CHB for us one day.

He gets amongst it, but isn't an in-and-under player by any measure. Scott West isn't really the hard at it type either IMO.

[BigCat2]

He gets amongst it, but isn't an in-and-under player by any measure. Scott West isn't really the hard at it type either IMO.

Let's hope Chris' kicking is a bit more polished. ;)

The only time I've seen him play was at the Intra Club match. Looked to have plenty of poise and placed himself nicely to collect possessions.

[The Flying Belgian]

I agree, but who knows maybe id we use Brown in the forward 50 Charman can do with whole game without that being needed. Brennan was tried in the ruck against the Saints a few years back - if anyone remembers it, it didn't fair well for Brennan who got crunched and had Voss say something like "get up - don't show weakness" - maybe if he has learnt he might have a run in that position as well:rolleyes:

Wouldn't surprise at all to see Brennan rucking around the ground. At training on Wednesday night the ruckmen broke from the rest to do some work with Rehny and both Jared and Mitch went with. I heard Brennan also played in the ruck for Suncoast for periods last week. If they go down that path they'll kepp him away from the centre bounce, although since that ill-fated day Jared has bulked up quite a bit and the centre ruck circle was introduced.

[notting18]

Wouldn't surprise at all to see Brennan rucking around the ground. At training on Wednesday night the ruckmen broke from the rest to do some work with Rehny and both Jared and Mitch went with. I heard Brennan also played in the ruck for Suncoast for periods last week.

Hmmm maybe my half serious/half sarcastic comment is more serious than intended...

[The Flying Belgian]

Johnson will play forward for us. I'd be thinking Patfull on Kingsley and probably Adcock on Pettifer.

[lionbear]

Wouldn't surprise at all to see Brennan rucking around the ground. At training on Wednesday night the ruckmen broke from the rest to do some work with Rehny and both Jared and Mitch went with. I heard Brennan also played in the ruck for Suncoast for periods last week. If they go down that path they'll kepp him away from the centre bounce, although since that ill-fated day Jared has bulked up quite a bit and the centre ruck circle was introduced.

Perhaps the plan will be to play Charman more as a key forward and have Brennan ruck around the ground to cover him while he plays up forward.

[The Flying Belgian]

Perhaps the plan will be to play Charman more as a key forward and have Brennan ruck around the ground to cover him while he plays up forward.

Nah, I think Charmo will ruck most of the game with Mitch and Maybe Jared giving him a rest once a quarter.

[BigCat2]

Perhaps the plan will be to play Charman more as a key forward and have Brennan ruck around the ground to cover him while he plays up forward.

So Charmo will go up forward and we'll play the game with zero specialised rucks following the ball? :confused:

Far more likely is for Jamie to play the majority of the game on-ball, and Clark (even Brennan) to provide some relief when Charmo has a rest. With only one ruckman in the team it makes more sense for him to have spells on the bench to rest than sitting in a forward pocket.

Edit: what His Excellency The New Flying Belgian Moderator said.

[lionbear]

Nah, I think Charmo will ruck most of the game with Mitch and Maybe Jared giving him a rest once a quarter.

Sorry didn't realise McDonald wasn't playing. This would be the first time since prior to winning the 3 Premierships we have gone into a game with only one specialist Ruckman, intresting move.

[The Flying Belgian]

Edit: what His Excellency The New Flying Belgian Moderator said.

Nice and grovelly!!! A bloke could get used to that sort of sycophancy. :D

[Grimreepah]

Sorry didn't realise McDonald wasn't playing. This would be the first time since prior to winning the 3 Premierships we have gone into a game with only one specialist Ruckman, intresting move.

I think we trialled it for a few games at the start of 2006, but it wasn't all that successful.

[BigCat2]

Sorry didn't realise McDonald wasn't playing. This would be the first time since prior to winning the 3 Premierships we have gone into a game with only one specialist Ruckman, intresting move.

We only had McLaren vs St Kilda in 2004 finals. *shudders*

[Sherminator.]

And thus, Schmidt's 200+ game career begins! ;) Great to see him named in the side, and great to see him play live this weekend! I'll be hoping that he can set us a few goals, as he does have excellent foot skills, it'd be great to see him set up Clark (something I hope to see alot as the years go on).

Great to see Hooper fighting back into the side, he'll want to give 110% and use his pace against the Tigers, could tear them up, IMO. I hope he kicks 2-3.

I am most excited to see Clark play live, though, I should have a first level seat, so I should be able to see him up close. Will be exciting to watch him, as well as Hooper, love watching him use his pace and TACKLE! :D

Charman might end up with 30+ hit outs if he plays 80% of the game in ruck.

[Sherminator.]

Wouldn't surprise at all to see Brennan rucking around the ground. At training on Wednesday night the ruckmen broke from the rest to do some work with Rehny and both Jared and Mitch went with. I heard Brennan also played in the ruck for Suncoast for periods last week. If they go down that path they'll kepp him away from the centre bounce, although since that ill-fated day Jared has bulked up quite a bit and the centre ruck circle was introduced.

Remember 2004 season? He played alot in ruck back then when we were decimated with injuries.

[BigCat2]

I think we trialled it for a few games at the start of 2006, but it wasn't all that successful.

Good call. Just checked the stats: in rounds 1-4 we played Charmo as the only specialist ruck with Mitch, Jared and Rog providing back up.

[BigCat2]

Nice and grovelly!!! A bloke could get used to that sort of sycophancy. :D

I am not worthy.

[Grimreepah]

I am not worthy.

You are only grovelling because you want leniency to change your answer on the Stat Game. TFB's not going to fall for that.;)

[danielcanberra]

I have a good feeling about this one. I'll definitely know about my instinct (gut feeling) after I watch the boys at training tomorrow (4pm usual place).

[BigCat2]

You are only grovelling because you want leniency to change your answer on the Stat Game. TFB's not going to fall for that.;)

Grim, you're a fairly handy poster yourself. ;)