Injury Watch

[Quigley]

Cracked me up the other day when someone asked on seeing the injury list "what have the Lions have been doing, kneeing each other in the groin?"

[POBT]

Brisbane Lions Injury List: Pre-Season Update - Tuesday 26 February 2008
Here (http://www.lions.com.au/Season2007/InjuryList/tabid/8716/Default.aspx)

Scott Harding (Corked Quad) - Test
Robert Copeland (Corked Quad) - Test
Michael Rischitelli (Knee) - Test
Scott Clouston (Shoulder) - Test
Simon Black (Groin) - Test
Joel Macdonald (Groin) - Test
Colm Begley (Achilles) - 1 week
Daniel Merrett (Knee) - 1 week
Jason Roe (Quad) - 1-2 weeks
Mitch Clark (Quad) - 2-3 weeks
Ashley McGrath (Knee) - 2-3 weeks
James Hawksley (Groin) - 3 weeks
Matthew Tyler (Lower Back) - 3 weeks
Pat Garner (Knee) - 3-4 weeks
Daniel Bradshaw (Knee) - 3-4 weeks
Chris Schmidt (Quad) - 4 weeks
Matthew Moody (Groin) - Indefinite
Sam Sheldon (Groin) - Indefinite


Looks as though "the dreaded" has got the last two.

[Grimreepah]

Brisbane Lions Injury List: Pre-Season Update - Thursday 20 February 2007

Mitch Clark (Quad) - 1 week

Brisbane Lions Injury List: Pre-Season Update - Tuesday 26 February 2008
Here (http://www.lions.com.au/Season2007/InjuryList/tabid/8716/Default.aspx)

Mitch Clark (Quad) - 2-3 weeks

Uh oh...


Looks as though "the dreaded" has got the last two.

Indefinite probably means a minimum of 8 weeks.

[Jorge Horatio]

Brisbane Lions Injury List: Pre-Season Update - Tuesday 26 February 2008
Here (http://www.lions.com.au/Season2007/InjuryList/tabid/8716/Default.aspx)

Scott Harding (Corked Quad) - Test
Robert Copeland (Corked Quad) - Test
Michael Rischitelli (Knee) - Test
Scott Clouston (Shoulder) - Test
Simon Black (Groin) - Test
Joel Macdonald (Groin) - Test
Colm Begley (Achilles) - 1 week
Daniel Merrett (Knee) - 1 week
Jason Roe (Quad) - 1-2 weeks
Mitch Clark (Quad) - 2-3 weeks
Ashley McGrath (Knee) - 2-3 weeks
James Hawksley (Groin) - 3 weeks
Matthew Tyler (Lower Back) - 3 weeks
Pat Garner (Knee) - 3-4 weeks
Daniel Bradshaw (Knee) - 3-4 weeks
Chris Schmidt (Quad) - 4 weeks
Matthew Moody (Groin) - Indefinite
Sam Sheldon (Groin) - Indefinite


Looks as though "the dreaded" has got the last two.

Moody cannot really afford to be behind the eight ball. I think this will be his last season with Brisbane.Unfortunately never matured into the player he could have been!

[dlanod]

A definite feeling of deja vu kicking in already.

[Cousin Jed]

Uh oh...


With his history of injuries, and the lions record on quads, think that was an over-estimation on their parts originally.

Looks like Moody's career with the Lions is over.

[Lace Out]

Schizenhausen :thumbsd:

[Grimreepah]

It'll be interesting if either of those guys get put on the long term injury list to give young Kiel a run. We could have 3 elevated rookies before the season starts. To think that we were all fretting about how to elevate Begley. What were we thinking:rolleyes:

[POBT]

It is important to keep that list in perspective. The numbers on the list are irrelevant - what counts is missed premiership games. In that regard, anyone listed as "3 to 4 weeks" or better is some chance of being available at round 1.

Even if we draw a line through all the players listed at 2-3 weeks or worse (ie from Mitch Clark down), we have 1, possibly 2 players only missing from our best 22. The longer term injured players are, by and large, fringe players who, although would benefit from a game or two in the preseason, don't actually have to be fit for competitive footy for another month and can return straight away to build their match fitness in the magoos.

[Lace Out]

It is important to keep that list in perspective. The numbers on the list are irrelevant - what counts is missed premiership games. In that regard, anyone listed as "3 to 4 weeks" or better is some chance of being available at round 1.

Even if we draw a line through all the players listed at 2-3 weeks or worse (ie from Mitch Clark down), we have 1, possibly 2 players only missing from our best 22. The longer term injured players are, by and large, fringe players who, although would benefit from a game or two in the preseason, don't actually have to be fit for competitive footy for another month and can return straight away to build their match fitness in the magoos.
Points taken but we will probably lose 2 or 3 more through normal attrition in the next month.It's very difficult to stay on top of it when you begin with that list.I think we will now need to win 10 of the last 15 to make the 8.

[POBT]

Points taken but we will probably lose 2 or 3 more through normal attrition in the next month.It's very difficult to stay on top of it when you begin with that list.I think we will now need to win 10 of the last 15 to make the 8.
But we're not beginning with that injury list. We haven't started the season yet. The club manages injuries with a view to round 1 in mind. Take Merrett for example - he was explicit in saying that he had a niggling knee which would not have prevented him from playing had the season started. In pre-season, 1 week strains become 3 week injuries because you want to totally minimise the risk of re-injury. Less than necessary surgery is performed. "General soreness" keeps guys out of games. Couple those factors with the inevitable delayed return from last year's long term injured, and a properly managed squad will always have a longer than usual injury list in pre-season.

If we have 12 players who don't play a game in round 1, then I will be concerned but right now we have an injury list which is predominantly made up of players who are predicted to be right to play the first competitive match of the season.

I guess I am looking at it from the perspective that it has been worse for us. Despite what is reported in the papers, if you gave Lethal the choice between having his best 22 available but rusty, compared to having a match-ready squad minus some key personnel, you know what he will take.

[TheBrownDog]

POBT is the voice of reason, injecting a bit of sanity into proceedings.

Lets just be glad that apart from Sheldon and Moody (who weren't likely to play much footy this year anyway) that we have no major long term injuries... no ACLs... etc

[Lace Out]

POBT is the voice of reason, injecting a bit of sanity into proceedings.

Lets just be glad that apart from Sheldon and Moody (who weren't likely to play much footy this year anyway) that we have no major long term injuries... no ACLs... etc
Reason or rose coloured shades.

Sincerely hope he is right.

[POBT]

Reason or rose coloured shades.


Mate, I would have thought that I've built up enough brownie points around here that I don't deserve to get accused of the latter. I think that I've built a reasonable case for my opinion, even if you don't agree with it.

[xplo]

Yeah the 'sky is falling' stuff has been getting a bit over-played. Where was JMac this time last year and where did he finish the year? Where was Nuxy? Where was Rhan?

All three washed-up according to many. Turn the lights out as you leave, boys.

The conventional wisdom going around last year was that our mid-season flat spot was the result of tiring kids after an extended preseason.

But our season was probably saved by the re-invigorating inclusion of the guys that weren't either fit or available for round one.

Specifically I'm talking about:
-Hooper
-JMac
-Brown (achieving full match fitness at least)
-Leuenberger
-Hamill
-Corrie

In effect, these guys were an injection of freshness and enthusiasm ready to go exactly as some of the kids that had played since Feb started to wane a little. It almost looked as if they'd planned to warehouse a few guys through the early part of the year to give them some sparkle in the run home.

There's every reason to think that many of the guys currently on that injury list will build solid form in the magoos and start mounting serious cases for selection as some of the guys from round 1 start to tire. That is a good thing.

[Lace Out]

Mate, I would have thought that I've built up enough brownie points around here that I don't deserve to get accused of the latter. I think that I've built a reasonable case for my opinion, even if you don't agree with it.
I didn't mean to offend POBT and do respect your opinion.I might be labelled a doomsayer on this but that's how I see it for the early rounds.

[notting18]

POBT is the voice of reason, injecting a bit of sanity into proceedings.

Lets just be glad that apart from Sheldon and Moody (who weren't likely to play much footy this year anyway) that we have no major long term injuries... no ACLs... etc
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TOUCH IT!!

[POBT]

I didn't mean to offend POBT and do respect your opinion.I might be labelled a doomsayer on this but that's how I see it for the early rounds.
No dramas.

I think it would be widely accepted that the Swans in 2005-2006 set the industry benchmark for lost time due to injuries. In 2006, the Swans started the season as follows:

NAB Cup - lost 1st round to North Melbourne by 32 points (North finished 14th)

Round 1 - lost to Essendon by 27 points (Essendon finished 15th)
Round 2 - lost to Port by 26 points (Port finished 12th)
Round 3 - beat Carlton by 7 points (Carlton finished 16th)

Certainly, the major reason for that poor run of form was the late start to the year caused by the Swans premiership in 2005. But the Swans made it clear when they wanted their side to peak - that side finished the season winning 6 out of 7 of their last regular season matches plus their first two finals.

It was a similar story in 2005, when they were 2-4 after 6 rounds, albeit against decent opposition, and then finished the season off with 7 wins from their last 8 matches.

For anyone interested, this is the website of Reason Inc (http://reasonincorporated.com/index.html), the company that worked with the Swans and AC Milan in developing an injury management system.

[Quigley]

I don't think anybody is particularly worries about losing the preseason matches (I certainly am not anyway). What I am worried about is again we have the longest injury list in the competition and it is the young guys who need time on the park to develop who are dropping like flies. We have form in this regard and people are justifiably concerned that we might be seeing a repeat of the last couple of years. The guys who should be coming into the side or at least pressuring those in the team are out with injury.

Probably the thing I am most worried about is that we are seeing a repeat of the trend that was established last year where players are listed on the injury list as being out for 2 weeks. Then after two weeks they are still listed at two weeks or are increased to 3 or 4 weeks or even now listed as out indefinately. Last year we had guys out for half a season on what was listed as a 2 week injury. At this stage of the year I wouldn't be worried with a 2 week injury but when a third of your list in on the injury list and not seeming to get better (or even seemingly to be getting worse) I start to worry and justifiably given the form that the Lions have on the board with their reporting of injuries. In short they are usually full of shite when it comes to reporting injuries.

[chopperduck]

I don't think anybody is particularly worries about losing the preseason matches (I certainly am not anyway). What I am worried about is again we have the longest injury list in the competition and it is the young guys who need time on the park to develop who are dropping like flies. We have form in this regard and people are justifiably concerned that we might be seeing a repeat of the last couple of years. The guys who should be coming into the side or at least pressuring those in the team are out with injury.

Probably the thing I am most worried about is that we are seeing a repeat of the trend that was established last year where players are listed on the injury list as being out for 2 weeks. Then after two weeks they are still listed at two weeks or are increased to 3 or 4 weeks or even now listed as out indefinately. Last year we had guys out for half a season on what was listed as a 2 week injury. At this stage of the year I wouldn't be worried with a 2 week injury but when a third of your list in on the injury list and not seeming to get better (or even seemingly to be getting worse) I start to worry and justifiably given the form that the Lions have on the board with their reporting of injuries. In short they are usually full of shite when it comes to reporting injuries.

i do agree, the lions dont like releasing much info, injury or otherwise and you do have to take it with a grain of salt. but as pointed out, its pre season and they are being careful not to over do players to early. 4 pre season games, injuries or not the first 2 are always full of the youngsters, the last 2 phase the seniors back in so the team can play at least close to wat will be the starting 22 round 1. most of the guys injured will play 2nds and really, thats where they need to be to develop. you wont develop the young guys in 2 pre season games, its just a hit out against afl competition to see how they have progressed last year.

i cant wait to see our official injury list after the conclusion of round 1, that will be the 'real' injury list.

[Grimreepah]

Link (http://www.lions.com.au/Default.aspx?tabid=5085&newsId=55775)

Matthews looks forward to welcoming back full-back Daniel Merrett this week for the final outing of the pre-season.The burly custodian has been sidelined by minor knee surgery.
“He (Merrett) will play next week,” Matthews said.
“At the moment he’s been out and also Jason Roe, who has been one of our other pretty good big defenders. Scotty Clouston has played couple of games, but he’s still a rookie.
“Daniel will slot back in to defence really well – he trained well during the week so he’s right to go.”

[TheBrownDog]

Great news that Strawb will get a practice game under his belt.

His game style probably doesnt require a massive amount of fine tuning at present but a praccy game will still do him the world of good.

[danielcanberra]

I'm looking forward to seeing his fist this Saturday.

Err, that didn't come out right, but you know what I mean.

[cjwalkley]

Huge bonus getting Merrett back this week.

Just being able to work on the timig of his leaps and spoils in a match situation is imperative. If we could get Merrett, Roe and Patful working together for one game at least prior to the season starting, it would really assist our backline.

[The Flying Belgian]

Looking a little better this week.

Link (http://www.lions.com.au/Season2007/InjuryList/tabid/8716/Default.aspx)

Scott Harding (Corked Quad) - Test
Colm Begley (Achilles) - Test
Daniel Merrett (Knee) - Test
Matthew Leuenberger - Test
Jason Roe (Quad) - 1-2 weeks
Mitch Clark (Quad) - 2 weeks
Ashley McGrath (Knee) - 2 weeks
James Hawksley (Groin) - 2 weeks
Matthew Tyler (Lower Back) - 2 weeks
Pat Garner (Knee) - 2 weeks
Daniel Bradshaw (Knee) - 2 weeks
Chris Schmidt (Quad) - 3 weeks
Matthew Moody (Groin) - Indefinite
Sam Sheldon (Groin) - Indefinite

The two in green aren't really injuries - they could probably play if everyone else fell down. There's a few "tests" in there. The thing I don't really like is the number of second-year players injured, but that's been covered in another thread already.

[Cousin Jed]

Jason Roe (Quad) - 1-2 weeks
Mitch Clark (Quad) - 2 weeks
Chris Schmidt (Quad) - 3 weeks


Compared with

Brisbane Lions Injury List: Pre-Season Update - Thursday 20 February 2007

Mitch Clark (Quad) - 1 week
Chris Schmidt (Quad) - 3 weeks
Jason Roe (Quad) - 1 week

Its always the quads.

[Fairley]

Bloody quads... Instead of healing they seem to get worse?

[Grimreepah]

According to Hammo (http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,23313466-10389,00.html)...

Clark and Roe won't be ready by round 1 and McGrath will miss this week, while "Matthew Leuenberger, Colm Begley, Scott Harding and Daniel Merrett will all play this weekend, either in Canberra against the Swans on Saturday or on Sunday at Coorparoo."

[POBT]

Injury List (http://www.lions.com.au/Season2008/InjuryList/tabid/8716/default.aspx)
Monday 10 March 2008

Tom Collier (Hamstring) - 1-2 weeks

Jason Roe (Quad) - 2 weeks

Mitch Clark (Quad) - 2 weeks

Ashley McGrath (Knee) - 2 weeks

James Hawksley (Groin) - 2 weeks

Matthew Tyler (Lower Back) - 2 weeks

Pat Garner (Knee) - 2 weeks

Chris Schmidt (Quad) - 3 weeks

Matthew Moody (Groin) - Indefinite

Sam Sheldon (Groin) - Indefinite



Tommy Collier is really the only addition and that is a low end hammy injury, by the looks of it. No improvement in the recovery times of some of the others but Bradshaw played after being listed as 2 weeks away so I take those timeframes with a grain of salt.

I wouldn't be surprised if the "2 week" injuries are all listed like that because the next game they play will be on the round 1 weekend, which is still a fortnight away.

[Grimreepah]

The size of the injury list doesn't concern me (it's good for us) but I am maybe a bit concerned that we have injuries to a few players who play a similar position. Roe would be our first choice 3rd defender, with Collier and Tyler as backup, and Schmidt another who could play that role.

There are other options such as Henderson and Mills, but I think the best option for round 1 will be to play JMac as the 3rd tall and bring in another runner.

[chopperduck]

There are other options such as Henderson and Mills, but I think the best option for round 1 will be to play JMac as the 3rd tall and bring in another runner.

totally agree there. we can find another runner easy enough, but chb is too big of a position to be chuckin 4th and 5th string options into.

[POBT]

Injury List
Monday 17 March 2008 (http://www.lions.com.au/News/InjuryList/tabid/8716/default.aspx)

Tom Collier (Hamstring) - Test

Matthew Tyler (Lower Back) - 1-2 weeks

Pat Garner (Knee) - 1-2 weeks

Ashley McGrath (Knee) - 1-2 weeks

Jason Roe (Quad) - 2 weeks

Mitch Clark (Quad) - 2 weeks

James Hawksley (Groin) - 2 weeks

Chris Schmidt (Quad) - 2 weeks

Matthew Moody (Groin) - Indefinite

Sam Sheldon (Groin) - Indefinite

[Grimreepah]

Link (http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,23423998-19742,00.html)

Both Adcock and Robert Copeland (ankle) face fitness tests this week but Matthews rated their availability as unlikely. Small forward Ash McGrath (knee) could make a return from injury

[notting18]

Injury List
Monday 24 March 2008 (http://www.lions.com.au/News/InjuryList/tabid/8716/default.aspx)

Jed Adcock (Shin) - Test
Robert Copeland (Ankle) - Test
Ashley McGrath (Knee) - Test
Tom Collier (Hamstring) - 1 week
Matthew Tyler (Lower Back) - 1 week
Pat Garner (Knee) - 1 week
Jason Roe (Quad) - 2 weeks
Mitch Clark (Quad) - 2 weeks
Chris Schmidt (Quad) - 2 weeks
Matthew Moody (Groin) - Indefinite
Sam Sheldon (Groin) - Indefinite

[Grimreepah]

Injuries from the game:

Brisbane Lions: Drummond (quad).
Collingwood: Goldsack (face).

Leigh (http://lions.com.au/tabid/5085/Default.aspx?newsid=57032)

"Unfortunately he (Drummond) hurt his quad. It’s his right leg and not his kicking quad, but it’s always a lot of weeks with that injury."

[joshhem]

So we can cross these guys off the list now right?

Jed Adcock (Shin) - Test
Robert Copeland (Ankle) - Test
Ashley McGrath (Knee) - Test
Matthew Tyler (Lower Back) - 1 week

[LionPride]

Injuries from the game:

Brisbane Lions: Drummond (quad).
Collingwood: Goldsack (face).

Leigh (http://lions.com.au/tabid/5085/Default.aspx?newsid=57032)

"Unfortunately he (Drummond) hurt his quad. It’s his right leg and not his kicking quad, but it’s always a lot of weeks with that injury."


The Brisbane Lions expect to be without defender JOSH DRUMMOND for at least a month with a quad injury.
DRUMMOND injured his non-kicking leg in Friday night's thrilling two-point AFL win over Collingwood at the Gabba.
Lions coach LEIGH MATTHEWS has plenty of options to replace the accurate left-footer with a fit-again ROBBIE COPELAND, ASH MCGRATH, TROY SELWOOD and CHEYNEE STILLER all in the selection mix.
Brisbane play Sydney at the Gabba on Saturday night.


What a shame.......we'll miss him

[xplo]

The Brisbane Lions expect to be without defender JOSH DRUMMOND for at least a month with a quad injury.
DRUMMOND injured his non-kicking leg in Friday night's thrilling two-point AFL win over Collingwood at the Gabba.
Lions coach LEIGH MATTHEWS has plenty of options to replace the accurate left-footer with a fit-again ROBBIE COPELAND, ASH MCGRATH, TROY SELWOOD and CHEYNEE STILLER all in the selection mix.
Brisbane play Sydney at the Gabba on Saturday night.


What a shame.......we'll miss him

Haven't seen it mentioned anywhere, but wonder whether it was that 70M goal that aggravated it. Seemed to go off almost immediately after.

[The Flying Belgian]

Haven't seen it mentioned anywhere, but wonder whether it was that 70M goal that aggravated it. Seemed to go off almost immediately after.

I remember seeing him hobbling just before half time, but I think it was from an incident after that goal. What incident, I couldn't tell you though.

[Cousin Jed]

He made a short pass in the back pocket, very close to half time, after that goal. So it must have been around then.

[joshhem]

Monday 1st April:

Tom Collier (Hamstring) - 1 week

Mitch Clark (Quad) - 1 week

Jason Roe (Quad) - 2-3 weeks

Josh Drummond (Quad) - 4 weeks

Matthew Moody (Groin) - Indefinite

Sam Sheldon (Groin) - Indefinite

[Lace Out]

That list is shrinking nicely.

Roe's quad isn't the rapid healing variety.

[Cousin Jed]

Roe's quad was listed as 1 week 6 weeks ago.

Its now 2-3.

That thing ain't healing.

[Ill Nino]

Roe's quad was listed as 1 week 6 weeks ago.

Its now 2-3.

That thing ain't healing.

Someone send him to Mexico and give him steroids.

[dmac_55]

Is it safe to say Sheldon and Moody have OP?

I would think Sheldon would be susceptable with very young muscles and im sure he hit the offseason hard.

Can anyone confirm this

[chopperduck]

Is it safe to say Sheldon and Moody have OP?

I would think Sheldon would be susceptable with very young muscles and im sure he hit the offseason hard.

Can anyone confirm this

im pretty sure its been confirmed for moody, dont know bout sheldon tho. he has really started to develope. saw him on totally footy or some show on 10 last weekend, still has a lil bit to go but aint the stick he was when he got here. just as we start hitting our flag window he is gonna come into the side and crack heads i think.

dam immature young bodies and their injuries ie, clarky

[lookagoose]

Is it safe to say Sheldon and Moody have OP?

I would think Sheldon would be susceptable with very young muscles and im sure he hit the offseason hard.

Can anyone confirm this

Yep, both have OP.

[Fairley]

OP for dick.

[danielcanberra]

Ash McGrath - ankle injury from ressies game, reported by BrownDog.

Sorry for being a bit late. Had to go out for dinner.

[dlanod]

Latest update from http://lions.com.au/News/InjuryList/tabid/8716/default.aspx:

Injury List


Monday 7 April 2008
Mitch Clark (Quad) - Test
Ashley McGrath (Ankle) - Test
Troy Selwood (Corked Quad) - Test
Joel Tippett (Quad) - Test
Matt Austin (A/C Joint) - Test
Tom Collier (Hamstring) - 1 week
Jason Roe (Quad) - 2 weeks
Josh Drummond (Quad) - 4 weeks
Matthew Moody (Groin) - Indefinite
Sam Sheldon (Groin) - Indefinite

Promising to see the top five just being tests. Everyone's normal concern will be Roe and Drummond don't look like their time on the sideline is decreasing though.

[chopperduck]

Latest update from http://lions.com.au/News/InjuryList/tabid/8716/default.aspx:

Injury List


Monday 7 April 2008
Mitch Clark (Quad) - Test
Ashley McGrath (Ankle) - Test
Troy Selwood (Corked Quad) - Test
Joel Tippett (Quad) - Test
Matt Austin (A/C Joint) - Test
Tom Collier (Hamstring) - 1 week
Jason Roe (Quad) - 2 weeks
Josh Drummond (Quad) - 4 weeks
Matthew Moody (Groin) - Indefinite
Sam Sheldon (Groin) - Indefinite

Promising to see the top five just being tests. Everyone's normal concern will be Roe and Drummond don't look like their time on the sideline is decreasing though.

yeah, will be great to roe back. hopefully ash didn't do too much to his ankle and will spend another week in the 2nds to test it. good to see tom collier is getting there and clark listed as test is great. hopefully he gets a go in the 2nds and we can maybe get him into the side and swing hendo or bradshaw back until roe gets fit. might have to be the way i think, altho, hard to do with how bradshaw is playing up forward

[kizzel]

GREAT to see Clark is almost ready to be playing footy. He hasn't played a game all year so I'd say even if he had a blinder this weekend, chances are we won't see him in the seniors for a few more weeks. I do remeber last year he kicked 7 goals for Suncoast which IMO would be an automatic recall for senior selection, however Leigh Matthews disagreed. I hope he's ready to tear it up.

[dmac_55]

CURRENT INJURY LIST
Jamie Charman (Calf) – Test
Ashley McGrath (Ankle) – Test
Matt Austin (A/C Joint) – Test
Joel Tippett (Quad) – Test
Tom Collier (Hamstring) – Test
Phil Smith (Achilles) – Test
Pearce Hanley (Hamstring) – Test
Jason Roe (Quad) – 1 week
Josh Drummond (Quad) – 4 weeks
Matthew Moody (Groin) – Indefinite
Sam Sheldon (Groin) – Indefinite

Source: lions.com.au

[Gabbatoir]

Roe is nearly there ...

Drummond's 4 weeks still is a bit of a bummer

[Grimreepah]

Link (http://lions.com.au/tabid/5085/Default.aspx?newsid=58213)

The Lions have a seven-and-a-half day break headed into Sunday afternoon’s home encounter with Melbourne, but Matthews is not overly optimistic of veteran midfielder Nigel Lappin being fit to play.

Lappin was a late withdrawal prior to the Hawthorn match, courtesy of a troublesome Achilles.

"He had Achilles tendon soreness and although he did most of training he wasn’t quite right," Matthews said.

"What means for the next few weeks, we’re not quite sure – it’s not normally the kind of thing that heals overnight.

[BigCat2]

Pat Garner apparently has a hamstring strain, according to the match report. Shame as he was named in the best.

[mish33]

link (http://www.lions.com.au/News/InjuryList/tabid/8716/default.aspx)

Monday 21 April 2008
Nigel Lappin (Achilles) – Test
Matt Tyler (Back/Hamstring) – Test
Matt Austin (A/C Joint) – Test
Scott Clouston (Quad) – Test
Pearce Hanley (Hamstring) – Test
Patrick Garner (Hamstring) – 2-3 weeks
Josh Drummond (Quad) – 3 weeks
Joel Tippett (Finger) – 3 weeks
Matthew Moody (Groin) – Indefinite
Sam Sheldon (Groin) – Indefinite

[Grimreepah]

Roe must be right to go:thumbsu:

[JasRulz63]

Drummond only misses two more games hopefully, with the HoF game?

[notting18]

Roe must be right to go:thumbsu:

That could mean we might see him in the 1s as early as Geelong!

[chopperduck]

That could mean we might see him in the 1s as early as Geelong!

could do, altho i think after the weeks break is more likely. they wont rush him back i dont think.

i believe he has been training with the main group for the last week or so, just hasn't played any 2nds games yet.

shame to see patty in the list again, he could make a bit of an impact atm i think. drummond might be another week or two past tribute game i think

[POBT]

Is Roe required against Geelong? Merrett goes to Mooney and Patfull to Hawkins. JMac is a good match-up for Johnson. Begley on Gamble.

[chopperduck]

Is Roe required against Geelong? Merrett goes to Mooney and Patfull to Hawkins. JMac is a good match-up for Johnson. Begley on Gamble.

agreed, no reason to rush him back against geelong when he wont make much difference, then we get a week off anyway. wont be considered til after the tribute game

[Grimreepah]

link (http://www.lions.com.au/News/InjuryList/tabid/8716/default.aspx)

Monday 21 April 2008
Nigel Lappin (Achilles) – Test
Matt Tyler (Back/Hamstring) – Test
Matt Austin (A/C Joint) – Test
Scott Clouston (Quad) – Test
Pearce Hanley (Hamstring) – Test
Patrick Garner (Hamstring) – 2-3 weeks
Josh Drummond (Quad) – 3 weeks
Joel Tippett (Finger) – 3 weeks
Matthew Moody (Groin) – Indefinite
Sam Sheldon (Groin) – Indefinite

Begley (quad) - 1-16 weeks:rolleyes:

[Grimreepah]

Link (http://afl.com.au/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsid=58539)

BRISBANE Lions coach Leigh Matthews has expressed concern over the amount of quadriceps injuries in his squad following the withdrawal of Irish half-back Colm Begley ahead of the clash with Melbourne.

Defender Josh Drummond is also grounded with a similar injury while key position players Jason Roe and Mitchell Clark have recovered from theirs to work towards their first senior matches of the season.

Disturbed by the trend, Matthews has consulted the Lions’ medical staff to source the cause of the problem.

"We don't know the answer," he said on Friday. "I wish we knew the answer. We've searched for the answer. We review everything we do constantly … I ask that question constantly, 'What's going on with our quads?'"

Begley could spend up to four weeks on the sidelines, having injured himself at training

[POBT]

Injury List
Monday 28 April 2008

Nigel Lappin (Achilles) – Test
James Polkinghorne (A/C Joint) - Test
Patrick Garner (Hamstring) – 2 weeks
Josh Drummond (Quad) – 2 weeks
Joel Tippett (Finger) – 2 weeks
Colm Begley (Quad) - 4 weeks
Pearce Hanley (Hamstring) - 4 weeks
Matthew Moody (Groin) – Indefinite
Sam Sheldon (Groin) – Indefinite

[TheBrownDog]

Hopefully the 2 weeks is accurate for Drummond.

Bring him and Roe in for the Carlton game.

[Cousin Jed]

Whats the deal with the long term injury list rules?

(Ie how long for, is it retroactive, etc)

[notting18]

Whats the deal with the long term injury list rules?

(Ie how long for, is it retroactive, etc)

Minimum 8 weeks from when they are placed on the list I think. That is the way it was talked about with David Neitz on "on the couch" last week I think. I remember the comment was made by Connolly that "he could be ready in 4 weeks, but of course no he is on the LTI we definitely won't be risking him" (or words to that effect).

[Grimreepah]

Gee as soon as things are starting to look good down goes Johnstone, Brown and Black.:(

[mish33]

link (http://www.lions.com.au/News/NewsArticle/tabid/5085/Default.aspx?newsId=59092)

CURRENT INJURY LIST
Jonathan Brown (Quad) – Test (for Hall of Fame Match)
Simon Black (Groin) – Test for Round 8
Nigel Lappin (Achilles) – Test for Round 8
Travis Johnstone (Hamstring) – Test for Round 8
James Polkinghorne (A/C Joint) – Test for Round 8
Ashley McGrath (Ankle) – Test for Round 8
Josh Drummond (Quad) – Test for Round 8
Joel Tippett (Finger) – Test for Round 8
Wayde Mills (Knee) – Test for Round 8
Patrick Garner (Hamstring) – 1 week
Colm Begley (Quad) – 3-4 weeks
Pearce Hanley (Hamstring) – 4 weeks
Matthew Moody (Groin) – Indefinite
Sam Sheldon (Groin) – Indefinite

[Fairley]

Really hoping Travis and Browny get up, both in my dream team. :).

[TheBrownDog]

Blacky listed as a test for round 8 is mildly encouraging.

[notting18]

Blacky listed as a test for round 8 is mildly encouraging.

I think he is listed as a "test" as "indefinite" although more accurate, seems a little to extreme...

[mpal6]

All these blokes listed for testing looks very positive. The upside would be getting our backline close to best - begley with the dreaded 4 week forever quad - missing.

Hope Garner is ready to play 2s by carlton game so we can get Moody or Sheldon listed for long term injury and get him elevated. Heard he is a very good kick, similar to Drummond.

[Lace Out]

I hope Nige is ready if Black isn't.

[jackess]

Drummond listed as available on lions.com.au

Black, Lappin and Johnstone due for tests

[Cousin Jed]

Josh Drummond (Quad) - Available
Simon Black (Groin) - Test
Nigel Lappin (Achilles) - Test
Travis Johnstone (Hamstring) - Test
James Polkinhorne (AC Joint) - Test
Ashley McGrath (Ankle) - Test
Joel Tippett (Finger) - Test
Wayde Mills (Knee) - Test
Patrick Garner (Hamstring) – 1 week
Colm Begley (Quad) - 4 weeks
Pearce Hanley (Hamstring) - 4 weeks
Matthew Moody (Groin) – Indefinite
Sam Sheldon (Groin) – Indefinite

[Chasing the Dream]

Arrgn the dreaded 4 week quad.

I had a quick chat to Colm at the Chalk before the last home game and asked him if he could break the 4 week quad curse. He just laughed and said "What curse?":o

[notting18]

Injury List 19 May 2008

Wayde Mills (Knee) - Available
Patrick Garner (Hamstring) - Available
Matthew Tyler (Back/Hamstring) - Test
Nigel Lappin (Achilles) - 2 weeks
Sam Sheldon (Groin) - 2-3 weeks
Colm Begley (Quad) - 3-4 weeks
Pearce Hanley (Hamstring) - 4-6 weeks
Matthew Moody (Groin) - Indefinite

http://www.lions.com.au/Default.aspx?tabid=8716

Good news for Mills, Garner, Sheldon and Begley...bad news for Lappin, Hanley and Tyler.

Most of all, I am happy to not see Leuenberger listed after the Hamstring tightness on the weekend

[dlanod]

Bad news for Tyler being a test?

[mish33]

Injury List 19 May 2008

Most of all, I am happy to not see Leuenberger listed after the Hamstring tightness on the weekend

Very good news. I think it's a given that a second year ruck is not going to get through a full AFL season, but at least we have some players available to rest him with. We should be really careful with him, Clark and Charmo. We've been very lucky so far that when Charmo's been playing injured, leuey has stood up and last week it was vice versa. I'm a bit worried about Clark though, he went down for a second against Carlton and got up limping and I couldn't help thinking "There's another 5 weeks" :o

How about that list though! Dare I say it, might we see an unchanged line-up this week?

[notting18]

Bad news for Tyler being a test?

He had his season destroyed last year by Back/Hamstring injuries, I was hoping he would've been over that by now. Not the worst news, but not good news.

[kizzel]

Nigel Lappin (Achilles) - 2 weeks

http://www.lions.com.au/Default.aspx?tabid=8716



Often the club's injury list is inaccurate. But do we instead trust the Melbourne media?


POSSIBLE RETURNS THIS WEEK
Nigel Lappin (Bris Lions)calf

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/the-injury-report/2008/05/18/1211049069786.html


The fact that they've listed his injury as a calf is enough for me to not get too excited about an early return.

[notting18]

The fact that they've listed his injury as a calf is enough for me to not get too excited about an early return.

Don't quote me on this, but I am 99% sure he has been in that list the last rounds.

[POBT]

Very happy for Sam Sheldon and, particularly, Pat Garner. Here's hoping Pat plays out the rest of the year and secures his spot.

[xplo]

Very happy for Sam Sheldon and, particularly, Pat Garner. Here's hoping Pat plays out the rest of the year and secures his spot.

Yeah, have a real soft spot for Sammy. Would love to see that #3 go around again this year.

[mish33]

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/the-injury-report/2008/05/18/1211049069786.html


The fact that they've listed his injury as a calf is enough for me to not get too excited about an early return.

Yeah, considering they've also got Matthew Carr listed as a possible return :confused::confused::confused:

[notting18]

Colm Begley was interviewed at half time on Fox and said he was about 2 weeks away.

[LuckyLuke]

Colm Begley was interviewed at half time on Fox and said he was about 2 weeks away.

LOL! Is that what he said? Needed subtitles. :D

[POBT]

They look to have updated the injury list (http://www.lions.com.au/News/InjuryList/tabid/8716/default.aspx)(although haven't changed the date). Only 5 names on it, with no new injuries.


Nigel Lappin (Achilles) - 1-2 weeks
Sam Sheldon (Groin) - 2 weeks
Colm Begley (Quad) - 3 weeks
Pearce Hanley (Hamstring) - 3-5 weeks
Matthew Moody (Groin) - Indefinite

[shandogg]

G'day all, would I be right in guessing that Lappin is about 1 week away from returning?

I've read conflicting reports thats all...

[TheBrownDog]

Man, that injury list is by far the smallest in recent memory. :thumbsu:

[TheBrownDog]

Man, that injury list is by far the smallest in recent memory. :thumbsu:

Considering that we are playing high intensity, hard tackling, head over the ball Leigh Matthews footy, we are doing very well.

[chopperduck]

Man, that injury list is by far the smallest in recent memory. :thumbsu:

i think the best thing about it as well brown dog is arguably, only 2 of the 5 would push for seniors anyway this year. its great that we can cover one or two injuries atm

[weevil]

It looks really strange being that small. Like it is a mistake or something.

[Cara_Cougar #16]

Now there are no excuses for under performing. :rolleyes:

[mpal6]

Man, that injury list is by far the smallest in recent memory. :thumbsu:

TOUCH WOOD !!!!!!!!!

[dlanod]

TOUCH WOOD !!!!!!!!!

We can't, he's at Collingwood.

[Bod Jah]

G'day all, would I be right in guessing that Lappin is about 1 week away from returning?

I've read conflicting reports thats all...

You may end up waiting a fair while for an answer shandogg. As you can see most of the Lions fans don't live in Brisbane, don't go to training and have no more idea than you or me. I have asked the same question in the Dt thread, where there is sporadic discussion about the subject, and been advised that he is still feeling pain from his ankle and no closer to resuming than he was a month ago. That ties in with what the club has said publically and is probably as much as it is possible to know at this time.