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conway#20
1 Jun 2007, 15:41
just getting a taste of the under 16s
WatchOut
3 Jun 2007, 17:05
Looks likes Douttas are the dominent side again. I think they will be hard to beat. They have some real guns down there.
I think same thing could be said for Greenvale. They've got an alright team.
forgetaboutit
5 Jun 2007, 00:52
Looks likes Douttas are the dominent side again. I think they will be hard to beat. They have some real guns down there.
What! You call yourself a footy buff. Douttas only just got over the line against pacco over the weekend. Greenvale premiers and champions mate.
WatchOut
5 Jun 2007, 19:41
What! You call yourself a footy buff. Douttas only just got over the line against pacco over the weekend. Greenvale premiers and champions mate.
Yeh I did get a surprise when I saw the Douttas result - well done Pacco.
Greenvale do have a great u/16 team with 3 u/15 schoolboys players in it. Should be a good game against Doutta's.
KnockOut
5 Jun 2007, 20:52
What! You call yourself a footy buff. Douttas only just got over the line against pacco over the weekend. Greenvale premiers and champions mate.From what I've heard of the game went in very arrogant and were done by 8 goals at 3 quarter time, came back to win by a goal which is a credit for Pascoe Value and a warning for the rest of the competition. You can't hold douttas down!
WatchOut
7 Jun 2007, 22:12
Who are the guns from each club? The Jets and Cannons have a fair few EDFL players in both teams. WHo is staring and who has been overlooked.
Who are the guns from each club? The Jets and Cannons have a fair few EDFL players in both teams. WHo is staring and who has been overlooked.
Doutta Stars have probs best player in the country for his age in Tommy Lucin but has cannons and other commitments atm. IMO i think a kid called Alistar Kefford from abers is up there with the best in the league. also James Mclean from aberfieldie is having one of the best seasons i have seen in a long time.
WatchOut
14 Jun 2007, 08:15
EDFL u/16 that have survived the next Vic Metro cut are:
Talia - Greenvale
Rayner - Taylors Lakes
Lucin - Douttas
Melksham - Oak Park
marc clemente n ben calcagno are both tough as nails and superly underated. Clemente is a quick and silky backman whilst calcagno has super skills n is hard to catch. GREENVALE VS DOUTAS should be aa great game to watch.... i cant split them but im sure marc and ben will be firing for both teams:thumbsu:
WatchOut
23 Jun 2007, 20:53
marc clemente n ben calcagno are both tough as nails and superly underated. Clemente is a quick and silky backman whilst calcagno has super skills n is hard to catch. GREENVALE VS DOUTAS should be aa great game to watch.... i cant split them but im sure marc and ben will be firing for both teams:thumbsu:
Let's hope they play Lucin and Talia on each other. That wil be a great battle.
KnockOut
25 Jun 2007, 23:33
Let's hope they play Lucin and Talia on each other. That wil be a great battle.Considering they're both limited to a match a week by Calder lets see who plays first.
WatchOut
1 Jul 2007, 10:38
Considering they're both limited to a match a week by Calder lets see who plays first.
"Who plays first in what" ????? If you mean who plays first for the Cannons in TAC then Lucin has already played one game.
KnockOut
3 Jul 2007, 12:25
"Who plays first in what" ????? If you mean who plays first for the Cannons in TAC then Lucin has already played one game.I mean lets see if they both play in the Greenvale V Douttas match. They are both restricted to one match a week by Calder so if either play U/18's or TAC cup they won't play on the Sunday.
WatchOut
5 Jul 2007, 22:20
Talia, Melksham, Lucin and Rayner have all survived the next cut at Vic Metro. Doubt if any will now be available for club footy this weekend.
Bryceson
16 Jul 2007, 17:24
From what I've heard of the game went in very arrogant and were done by 8 goals at 3 quarter time, came back to win by a goal which is a credit for Pascoe Value and a warning for the rest of the competition. You can't hold douttas down!
u heard wrong.
pacco were up by 6 goals at quarter time, 2 goals at half time and 9 points at 3 quarter time.
conway#20
17 Jul 2007, 22:21
u heard wrong.
pacco were up by 6 goals at quarter time, 2 goals at half time and 9 points at 3 quarter time.
how are keoilor park going.i use to play for them
Had the pleasure of watching the U16A GF between Keilor & Doutta on Sunday. I must say the standard was exceptional and both teams were very well coached. The only downer on the day was the disgraceful remarks from some Keilor parent in front of the players race, yelling out across the fence for their player to deliberately throw the doutta player into to the fence and smash his head in. I did hear a funny comment though that made these fools shut up......someone yelled out that the Immagration Officers were on their way to check for illegal immigrants........they went very quiet and actually disappeared 5 minutes from the finish when doutta had the game wrapped up. Obviously the Kebabs needed some attention !!!!
No Rules
23 Aug 2007, 18:01
Had the pleasure of watching the U16A GF between Keilor & Doutta on Sunday. I must say the standard was exceptional and both teams were very well coached. The only downer on the day was the disgraceful remarks from some Keilor parent in front of the players race, yelling out across the fence for their player to deliberately throw the doutta player into to the fence and smash his head in. I did hear a funny comment though that made these fools shut up......someone yelled out that the Immagration Officers were on their way to check for illegal immigrants........they went very quiet and actually disappeared 5 minutes from the finish when doutta had the game wrapped up. Obviously the Kebabs needed some attention !!!!
Can't coment about the parents but can say a very good game of footy by both sides. Scores tight all day Keilor looked good at 3/4 time but ran out of legs & just couldn't keep Lucin in check in the last quarter.
Credit must go to DS but a fantastic effort by Keilor to get to the granny.
So much for GV - premiers & champions??? It's never in the bag until the siren.
I was at the Grand Final and to point a few things out that have been said in the thread
Marc Clemete is NOT THAT GOOD. Hardly got a touch and was probably only used in the backline as a tackle, hold up the play player.
I heard alot of hype about Tom Lucin, and when i saw him play i dont think that he is that good!
It was a different game to what i was expecting and he didnt deserve the bog.
My thoughts would have been number 9 from ds
WatchOut
31 Aug 2007, 18:45
I was at the Grand Final and to point a few things out that have been said in the thread
Marc Clemete is NOT THAT GOOD. Hardly got a touch and was probably only used in the backline as a tackle, hold up the play player.
I heard alot of hype about Tom Lucin, and when i saw him play i dont think that he is that good!
It was a different game to what i was expecting and he didnt deserve the bog.
My thoughts would have been number 9 from ds
What type of game were u expecting - it is only local u/16 footy.
Well Ive heard big things about the EDFL skills wise. Not being a tuff league, more skill.
So i guess i was expecting a game with a lot of the boys hitting targets and such. But it seemed to me that most of the kicks were grubbers.
Not a lot of switching took place and because both teams had 2 sides in the under 16s. I thought that at least every kids there would be able to play. But this wasnt shown
WatchOut
1 Sep 2007, 10:05
Well Ive heard big things about the EDFL skills wise. Not being a tuff league, more skill.
So i guess i was expecting a game with a lot of the boys hitting targets and such. But it seemed to me that most of the kicks were grubbers.
Not a lot of switching took place and because both teams had 2 sides in the under 16s. I thought that at least every kids there would be able to play. But this wasnt shown
Yeah I can agree with that.
The EDFL is not the strongest district going around which is disappointing. You only have to look at the lack of EDFL boys in the u/16 Cannons list who took the next step and made it to VM trials. However saying that it was great that 3 EDFL boys managed to get in the VM team with 1 getting AIS. Diamond Valley leauge (Knights) managed to get 8 in team.
What I have noticed over the past few years is the lack of training our EDFL teams have. the DV league picks their district squads (U/14, 15/ 16)before Xmas and they train together for a few months. This can only improve their boys skills, training with better kids. The EDFL teams are only selected a few weeks before Metro championships with final cut usually 2 weeks before 1st match, which is rubbish.
I also believe the other problem is that clubs like DS and Greenvale do not get enough hard games. DS have had an easy ride for years so their boys must have something. I think in 3 years they have lost 2 games - this doesn't really improve football skills.
If u want to go and see some good u/16 footy try and go to some of the u/16 carnival next year.
When you said that there arnt alot of boys from the EDFL in the Cannons. What other league do they take them from.
What league would you suggest is the best going around in metro victoria?
Because in the u15 metro champs, the WRFL finished 2nd to the YVFL and the WRFL beat the EDFL comfortably inmy memory serves me correctly
Being in the WRFL, and Werribee a's play, i think that they could beat DS or Greenvale easily and maybe even Keilor.
This is where i would like to see 2 inter-league club matchs take place.
Werribee v DS
Williamstown v Greenvale
Because all the people at school talk the EDFL up so much, and personally i think that teh WRFL is better. And it would finally shut them up
forgetaboutit
1 Sep 2007, 23:43
When you said that there arnt alot of boys from the EDFL in the Cannons. What other league do they take them from.
What league would you suggest is the best going around in metro victoria?
Because in the u15 metro champs, the WRFL finished 2nd to the YVFL and the WRFL beat the EDFL comfortably inmy memory serves me correctly
Being in the WRFL, and Werribee a's play, i think that they could beat DS or Greenvale easily and maybe even Keilor.
This is where i would like to see 2 inter-league club matchs take place.
Werribee v DS
Williamstown v Greenvale
Because all the people at school talk the EDFL up so much, and personally i think that teh WRFL is better. And it would finally shut them up
Judd you are kidding yourself if you think the WRFL is a better comp than the EDFL. DS won the flag, so why do you think that you would beat them easily but you "maybe" might beat Keilor? I thought you went to the game?
4 EDFL boys made VM 16's, how many from WRFL?
There are 24 Clubs in the EDFL, some clubs with upto 15 junior sides, its just a pure weight of numbers thing.
Judd you are kidding yourself if you think the WRFL is a better comp than the EDFL. DS won the flag, so why do you think that you would beat them easily but you "maybe" might beat Keilor? I thought you went to the game?
4 EDFL boys made VM 16's, how many from WRFL?
There are 24 Clubs in the EDFL, some clubs with upto 15 junior sides, its just a pure weight of numbers thing.
WRFL is by far a better league.
And when i said mayb keilor, i was reffering to the inter league club matchs
Greenvale, DS, Keilor
Werribee, Williamstown, Hoppers Crossing
Not sure how many from the wrfl made the VM 16's. But 7 made the VM 15's.
Yet clubs with such numbers, they still cant produce a decent A team
WatchOut
2 Sep 2007, 19:12
WRFL is by far a better league.
Not sure how many from the wrfl made the VM 16's. But 7 made the VM 15's.
Yet clubs with such numbers, they still cant produce a decent A team
I think maybe 1 (if Fitzpatrick is wrfl) but you must realise VM 15 is totally different to VM 16. Out of last years VM 15 only maybe 7 made this years VM 16. Half of last year VM 15 did not even get invited to VM 16 trials and could not even make Cannons u/16 list.
To answer your earlier question, this years u/16 cannons initial squad consisted of approx 50% EDFL, 46% Sunbury/Rupertwood?Macedon/Gisborne, 2% Wallen/Kilmore 2% WRFL (St.Bernards). Out of the final 30 were 50% EDFL.
At u/15 Cannons level, 200 kids were looked at this year at various squad trials and school holiday clinics. Only 1/4 will be selected for Barry Davis Team.
IMO the strongest district would be either Eastern 8 VM u/16 players or Northern (DVFL) 8 VM u/16 players. EDFL only had 4 VM and Northern kicked their butts at the trials. Sorry but IMO the WRFL would not stand a chance against them.
I liked your idea of DS v Werribbee of Greenvale V Willie as I said these top clubs (incl Keilor) don't get many hard games.
I don't agree with your views on Lucin. The GF wasn't one of his better games but he was the turning point in the match. You must remember that a kid like Lucin has played over 50 games this year (DS, Vic Metro, Herald-sun, TAC, U/16 Cannon and School footy). I also noticed he was named in Cannons yesterday and is also playing DS u/18 - so give the kid a break. He must be worn out physically and mentally.
Two quick questions.
Not to sound sarcastic
Did any of the EDFL boys get an AIS/AFL academy programme?
And has Lucin played any games for the Calder Cannons u18s?
Two quick questions.
Not to sound sarcastic
Did any of the EDFL boys get an AIS/AFL academy programme?
And has Lucin played any games for the Calder Cannons u18s?
2 x players made the AIS/AFL squad - Trengrove/Strathmore & Melksham/Oak park.
Lucin played 1 game for the Cannons
So who would you name the best footballer at under 16 level in the EDFL
WatchOut
8 Sep 2007, 11:41
So who would you name the best footballer at under 16 level in the EDFL
It would be hard to split Melksham and Lucin.
Melksham has a bit more mongrel in him and is very hard at the ball. (no offence meant). Lucin has excellent skills, pace and stamina.
roccacelli
9 Nov 2007, 23:04
Heres A Vid From Da Granny Of Marc Clemente Getttn Bumped!!
Ok7zTnK0g14
hahaahha i remember watching that at the game
sort of hoped he didnt get up
roccacelli
29 Nov 2007, 15:16
hahaahha i remember watching that at the game
sort of hoped he didnt get up
lol, why. what have you got against this player
vb_is_4_me
19 Dec 2007, 18:38
Which team is most likely going to win the U16 1st grade in 08?
Blu3_Boy
20 Dec 2007, 19:35
Which team is most likely going to win the U16 1st grade in 08?
West Coburg :thumbsu:
premiers07
29 Feb 2008, 10:46
that Sam Zumbo can play. i would watch out for him this year
schimma_20
2 Mar 2008, 20:12
What club does this Samuel Zumbo play for??
Bryceson
3 Mar 2008, 15:39
What club does this Samuel Zumbo play for??
greenvale
The boys from crazyburn are killing it!
medhurstman7
12 Jun 2008, 01:49
kielor are lookin the favourites to take it out this year..
but they are closely followed by a couple of teams (greenvale, strathmore, douttas and craigiburn)
who are all genuine chances.
the game of the year i think will be kielor vs douttas in a couple weeks.
kielor are currently undefeated and beat every team comfrtably, however douttas have bin running hot in the past weeks, after a slow start to the season.
they have premiership players from last years under 16 win (mckay[excellent ruckmen], clemente[blue collar centre half back], mcnamara[classy half back], lay[highly skilled centre half forward] and leech [small nimble on baller])
plus several new recruits (linardin [tall on baller] from east kielor and cronin [tough on baller] from tullamarine) and also the co-captain of the un. 15 edfl side kazuro[half back i think!].
i reccomend you get down and watch that game, it will be an epic and arguably the preveiw of what is to come in this years grand final.
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08' year of the magpie
colts4life
22 Jul 2008, 13:02
Heres A Vid From Da Granny Of Marc Clemente Getttn Bumped!!
Ok7zTnK0g14
How bad that the guy gives a bump and no one came in to even up!
Liked how he was waiting for someone to have a go and it didnt happen.
Did anyone give him payback later?
At my club it woulda happened
The Woodsman
30 Jul 2008, 21:04
Craigieburn may have a chance at Premiership.
Keilor have lost one game this year. Lost by 4pts to Craigieburn.
cazza12
31 Jul 2008, 18:15
kielor are lookin the favourites to take it out this year..
but they are closely followed by a couple of teams (greenvale, strathmore, douttas and craigiburn)
who are all genuine chances.
the game of the year i think will be kielor vs douttas in a couple weeks.
kielor are currently undefeated and beat every team comfrtably, however douttas have bin running hot in the past weeks, after a slow start to the season.
they have premiership players from last years under 16 win (mckay[excellent ruckmen], clemente[blue collar centre half back], mcnamara[classy half back], lay[highly skilled centre half forward] and leech [small nimble on baller])
plus several new recruits (linardin [tall on baller] from east kielor and cronin [tough on baller] from tullamarine) and also the co-captain of the un. 15 edfl side kazuro[half back i think!].
i reccomend you get down and watch that game, it will be an epic and arguably the preveiw of what is to come in this years grand final.
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08' year of the magpie
kelior have lost 1 game to craigieburn...look at scores before u post.
Motor Breath
6 Aug 2008, 12:20
How bad that the guy gives a bump and no one came in to even up!
Liked how he was waiting for someone to have a go and it didnt happen.
Did anyone give him payback later?
At my club it woulda happened
I cant remember his name but the guy who did the belting is a no nonsense kid (bit strange keilor having a hard guy).
A bit of aggro happened during this game but nothing i would consider a "payback"
I assume you are Port Melb Colts?
strathmore definitely favorites now!!
stratty_07
18 Aug 2008, 21:51
hadfield b grade premiers
strathmore a grade premiers
best_wins
22 Aug 2008, 17:26
Strathmore might be favs after there narrow win against Greenvale, but g'vale did have dion prestia, michael talia and a few other gun players in the side who didnt play much of the year. Strathmore have more strength that kelior but i rekon keliors skill level is much better. Will be a good game
The Woodsman
22 Aug 2008, 19:05
Keilor, will lose, the grand final, if its wet. Wet football for them is terrible.
I say Keilor will win, but if Strathmore bring their game, they got a chance.
dukesss
22 Aug 2008, 20:05
strathmore definitely favorites now!!
now why would that be cig??
could it possibly be the bloodlines running around in the 16's??
haha
haha
well that could possibly be a factor
canman44
26 Aug 2008, 19:08
just wondering.
have afew mates that play in the EDFL.
But dont know much about it since im from Wagga Wagga.
who are the better players from each side?
isnt the EDFL a strong competion?
The Woodsman
26 Aug 2008, 20:00
just wondering.
have afew mates that play in the EDFL.
But dont know much about it since im from Wagga Wagga.
who are the better players from each side?
isnt the EDFL a strong competion?
EDFL is a strong competition
Under 15's Rep Sqaud came runners up in state to Yarra
There are clearly stand outs from each side
do you want to know names?
The Bloke
26 Aug 2008, 22:11
16A's 09 Good To Stand Out Players
Doutta- Blair Cronin, Nathan Kazuro
Keilor- Paul Shalberg, Thomas Demrijan, Aaron Aqualina
Greenvale-Michael Tahlia, Nick Maric, Brett Stillman
Strathmore- William Becker, Luke (Ruckman)?
Craigieburn-Luke Roach, Damien Budgeja, Jake Woods
Aberfeldie-Francis Keely
Pascoe Vale- Brendon Meroli, Troy Coventry
Anyone got any changes, or ads to that?
dukesss
26 Aug 2008, 22:28
luke marum from the mores promising talent
troy coventry (brother of the great under 18 b grade champion dean coventry) also been good since the move
then your regs tahlia maric kazuro couple doutta blokes so on
definately forgot Matthew Watson inparticular, probaly one of the best U16's players in the comp, represented Vic Metro recently. Also Jared Tydell, has showed some talent, both at Paco..
few other mores players could definitely be noted.
The Bloke
27 Aug 2008, 12:49
Im talking about Next Years, 16 A's
This Year 16A's Top Age
Keilor- Chris Raf, Jack Duncan
Doutta- Jake Linardon,
Craigieburn- Steven Boyall, Lachlan Vella, Corey Viani
Pascoe Vale- Matthew Watson, Tydell
Greenvale- Tallan Wright, Dion Prestia
Aberfeldie-
Strathmore- Jonathon Goldsworthy
canman44
27 Aug 2008, 19:01
16A's 09 Good To Stand Out Players
Doutta- Blair Cronin, Nathan Kazuro
Keilor- Paul Shalberg, Thomas Demrijan, Aaron Aqualina
Greenvale-Michael Tahlia, Nick Maric, Brett Stillman
Strathmore- William Becker, Luke (Ruckman)?
Craigieburn-Luke Roach, Damien Budgeja, Jake Woods
Aberfeldie-Francis Keely
Pascoe Vale- Brendon Meroli, Troy Coventry
Anyone got any changes, or ads to that?
i have gerd a lot about Michael Tahlia and Nick Maric.
Is that maric any relation to aadam?
he good?
do both of them go to ACK?
or does michael have a scholarship cos i was readin around and he seems like a very good player
The Bloke
27 Aug 2008, 19:14
Nick And Adam Maric are both brothers
Nick and Michael both go to ACK but aren't on scholarships. They both made the All Australian Team for Under 15's
canman44
1 Sep 2008, 11:43
Nick And Adam Maric are both brothers
Nick and Michael both go to ACK but aren't on scholarships. They both made the All Australian Team for Under 15's
and how dod they go?
isnt nick really small?
must be ok if he can make Vic?
whats he stenghts/ weekness?
Might-Pies
1 Sep 2008, 12:08
Nick is a very good player, continuously gets loose, and manages to get alot of space, i played against him the week before the granny, great player
canman44
1 Sep 2008, 12:28
Nick is a very good player, continuously gets loose, and manages to get alot of space, i played against him the week before the granny, great player
But his so small.
if he gets hit hard does he go again or sort of stays out of the way.
is he an in under player?
Might-Pies
1 Sep 2008, 12:37
Nah, he usually bounces back up. When i played him a couple of weeks ago, in the finals ( i play for keilor ) he wasn't so much in an under, on a few occassions he was.
canman44
1 Sep 2008, 13:00
Nah, he usually bounces back up. When i played him a couple of weeks ago, in the finals ( i play for keilor ) he wasn't so much in an under, on a few occassions he was.
ok. is he quick? both feet?
what about micheal?
Might-Pies
1 Sep 2008, 13:07
Yeah pretty quick, not sure about both feet, didnt really take notice while i was out there.
Not sure about michael mate.
Did you watch the Grand Final between us (keilor) and stratty ?
canman44
1 Sep 2008, 13:17
Yeah pretty quick, not sure about both feet, didnt really take notice while i was out there.
Not sure about michael mate.
Did you watch the Grand Final between us (keilor) and stratty ?
na couldnt make it.
who is in the finals and stuff?
who fav?
better players on both sides etc
Might-Pies
1 Sep 2008, 13:25
Under 16 grand final has been played, was played last week at windy hill.
We (keilor) stayed with them up until half way through the 3rd quarter, then we just ran out of legs, we had many injuries, the bench wasn't used effectively, J. Goldsworthy kicked 6, and won BOG.
We only lost one game in the regular season, and lost in our first finals game to Strathmore by 4 points.
AwEsOmEkAnGaS29
4 Sep 2008, 19:32
Im talking about Next Years, 16 A's
This Year 16A's Top Age
Keilor- Chris Raf, Jack Duncan
Doutta- Jake Linardon,
Craigieburn- Steven Boyall, Lachlan Vella, Corey Viani
Pascoe Vale- Matthew Watson, Tydell
Greenvale- Tallan Wright, Dion Prestia
Aberfeldie-
Strathmore- Jonathon Goldsworthy
could any1 give me some information on all these players? like how they play and what position and stuff?
The Bloke
4 Sep 2008, 21:33
Chris Raf- Tall Solid Midfielder. Gets easy/lots possesions. Great Kick. Bit of temper about him. At Western Jets, i think?
Steven Boyall- Short, really fast. Can play just about anywhere on the feild. Terrific ball skills, can hack any pressure given. Made Debut for Craigieburn Seniors.
Lachlan Vella- Made EDFL side, played really well. Good Ruckman. Unlucky to make Calder Sqaud due to injury. Can run all day.
Corey Viani- Not a very hard worker. But is magic when it comes to getting ball, does some magic. Small also. Apprently won Craigieburns BNF comfertbaly. Unlucky to make EDFL Side.
Jonathon Goldsworthy- Big Solid boy. Havent seen much of him. Little slow. But can produce at Forward line with the ball.
Tydell- Tall ruckman. Great leap, great kick, great mark. I noticed he carried Pascoe Vale a little this year. Temper can get him on the bad side.
Not sure if he's in Calder.
The Bloke
4 Sep 2008, 21:36
FORGOT TO ADD POSITIONS
Chris Raf- Tall Solid Midfielder. Gets easy/lots possesions. Great Kick. Bit of temper about him. At Western Jets, i think? MID
Steven Boyall- Short, really fast. Can play just about anywhere on the feild. Terrific ball skills, can hack any pressure given. Made Debut for Craigieburn Seniors. FP, MID, BP
Lachlan Vella- Made EDFL side, played really well. Good Ruckman. Unlucky to make Calder Sqaud due to injury. Can run all day. RUCK, CHF
Corey Viani- Not a very hard worker. But is magic when it comes to getting ball, does some magic. Small also. Apprently won Craigieburns BNF comfertbaly. Unlucky to make EDFL Side. WING, MID, BP
Jonathon Goldsworthy- Big Solid boy. Havent seen much of him. Little slow. But can produce at Forward line with the ball. FF, MID, RUCK?
Tydell- Tall ruckman. Great leap, great kick, great mark. I noticed he carried Pascoe Vale a little this year. Temper can get him on the bad side. Not sure if he's in Calder. RUCK, CHB, FB
AwEsOmEkAnGaS29
5 Sep 2008, 20:37
:oFORGOT TO ADD POSITIONS
Chris Raf- Tall Solid Midfielder. Gets easy/lots possesions. Great Kick. Bit of temper about him. At Western Jets, i think? MID
Steven Boyall- Short, really fast. Can play just about anywhere on the feild. Terrific ball skills, can hack any pressure given. Made Debut for Craigieburn Seniors. FP, MID, BP
Lachlan Vella- Made EDFL side, played really well. Good Ruckman. Unlucky to make Calder Sqaud due to injury. Can run all day. RUCK, CHF
Corey Viani- Not a very hard worker. But is magic when it comes to getting ball, does some magic. Small also. Apprently won Craigieburns BNF comfertbaly. Unlucky to make EDFL Side. WING, MID, BP
Jonathon Goldsworthy- Big Solid boy. Havent seen much of him. Little slow. But can produce at Forward line with the ball. FF, MID, RUCK?
Tydell- Tall ruckman. Great leap, great kick, great mark. I noticed he carried Pascoe Vale a little this year. Temper can get him on the bad side. Not sure if he's in Calder. RUCK, CHB, FB
thx 4 that :thumbsu: how do you kno so much about all these players? which ones would you say have the biggest chance of getting somewhere in football?
The Bloke
5 Sep 2008, 20:59
dont worry about how i know so much about these players.
I don't believe any othese highlighted players will play AFL. VFL is a huge possibility, and playing high senior club football.
The AFL prospects i believe that are Under 16's at EDFL is Josh Toy, Dion Prestia, Blair Cronin and Matthew Watson.
AwEsOmEkAnGaS29
5 Sep 2008, 21:04
dont worry about how i know so much about these players.
I don't believe any othese highlighted players will play AFL. VFL is a huge possibility, and playing high senior club football.
The AFL prospects i believe that are Under 16's at EDFL is Josh Toy, Dion Prestia, Blair Cronin and Matthew Watson.
okay thanks for that.
yeh those four are very good players i have heard alot about them..
The Bloke
5 Sep 2008, 21:09
yerrr, if steven boyall was only another 10 cm taller he would be in there for sure. His height has decimated his AFL career. Standing at only 169 cm.
AwEsOmEkAnGaS29
5 Sep 2008, 21:14
yerrr, if steven boyall was only another 10 cm taller he would be in there for sure. His height has decimated his AFL career. Standing at only 169 cm.
yeh i heard alot about steven boyall, it really disheartens me how AFL clubs only go for the taller players these days, because there are some brilliant players who dont make it because they are short.
AwEsOmEkAnGaS29
5 Sep 2008, 21:37
Im talking about Next Years, 16 A's
This Year 16A's Top Age
Keilor- Chris Raf, Jack Duncan
Doutta- Jake Linardon,
Craigieburn- Steven Boyall, Lachlan Vella, Corey Viani
Pascoe Vale- Matthew Watson, Tydell
Greenvale- Tallan Wright, Dion Prestia
Aberfeldie-
Strathmore- Jonathon Goldsworthy
any favourites? and why?
any favourites? and why?
watson
The Bloke
6 Sep 2008, 13:31
Steven Boyall, you never know what his going to do next.
AwEsOmEkAnGaS29
8 Sep 2008, 19:31
Lachlan Vella- Made EDFL side, played really well. Good Ruckman. Unlucky to make Calder Sqaud due to injury. Can run all day. RUCK, CHF
what did he injure? think he willl get another chance? is he much chop?
I AM THE PRINCESS
8 Sep 2008, 20:36
what did he injure? think he willl get another chance? is he much chop?
Lachy is a great ruckman and soooo unlucky to miss out on the cannons....maybe they will have a look at him down the track!!! Best 16 year old going around atm is Josh Toy then Tom Libba both will make AFL 4 sure:)
The Bloke
8 Sep 2008, 21:38
He injured his Knee. Was unable to do the 3km time trial. Hes got another 2 years until he finishes 18's to prove to Cannons. Should be able to do it.
He can play most positions on the ground. Always tries hard and runs.
AwEsOmEkAnGaS29
10 Sep 2008, 21:12
He injured his Knee. Was unable to do the 3km time trial. Hes got another 2 years until he finishes 18's to prove to Cannons. Should be able to do it.
He can play most positions on the ground. Always tries hard and runs.
how are his skills?
so who do you guys reckon are good palyerrs in 2nd division under16's??
preferebly playin 2nd year 16's in 2009...
The Bloke
10 Sep 2008, 21:17
yeh there not bad.
Can make overhead, run, use both sides of his body.
footy_brain
13 Sep 2008, 20:45
favs going up to u18s are: watson, great size, superhands- serious potential
toy- will go along a way
2nd yr u16 in 09- cronin, talia, kazuro, ball
The Bloke
14 Sep 2008, 13:13
so who do you guys reckon are good palyerrs in 2nd division under16's??
preferebly playin 2nd year 16's in 2009...
brandon ellis, marcus considine, rob ball, ben drummond, jordan kelly, stevie g, taylor neizabilis
Might-Pies
14 Sep 2008, 20:37
Dion Alessi going up to 18's next year, not really well known, goes in hard nearly every week. Plays for keilor, tough nut. Got some great pace on him also.
wadders
14 Sep 2008, 23:01
brandon ellis, marcus considine, rob ball, ben drummond, jordan kelly, stevie g, taylor neizabilis
mate, come off it.
ben drummond is the most over rated player going around.
let me tell you, orange boots and not getting a kick is not a good look, everyone down at craigieburn knows exactly that.
he left the club after 2 rounds in those orange boots and no possesions.
he couldnt hack it in edfl a grade.
the better players in b grade strive to get themselves to the highest level, this kid couldnt hack the hard work and had to go down to b grade to get a kick.
definetley will not get anywhere.
The Bloke
15 Sep 2008, 01:47
mate, come off it.
ben drummond is the most over rated player going around.
let me tell you, orange boots and not getting a kick is not a good look, everyone down at craigieburn knows exactly that.
he left the club after 2 rounds in those orange boots and no possesions.
he couldnt hack it in edfl a grade.
the better players in b grade strive to get themselves to the highest level, this kid couldnt hack the hard work and had to go down to b grade to get a kick.
definetley will not get anywhere.
i partially agree.
He may be a little bit of a girl when it comes to getting the ball.
But he has great ball skills, can use either side of his body and is expected to be tall. Cannons has a chance. You watch. He will get a game, but everyone will remember him as a p******
The Bloke
15 Sep 2008, 02:04
I've been hearing alot about Matthew Laffan, someone tell about him, he plays for craigieburn. And possibly some other good players for craigieburn 16 A's next year.
Redball
15 Sep 2008, 11:31
i partially agree.
He may be a little bit of a girl when it comes to getting the ball.
But he has great ball skills, can use either side of his body and is expected to be tall. Cannons has a chance. You watch. He will get a game, but everyone will remember him as a p******
Let me tell you a few facts about Ben Drummond :
1.He left CJFC because the coach had no idea what he was doin.
2.Coach and staff have no respect for players.
3.Club chose injured players to play EDFL rep instead of choosing players that had talent.
Bag him all your want but CJFC are the ones who lost a great player, He is at a better club with morals not to mention winning grandfinal , Oh thats right CJFC wouldnt know what that would be like as they choked in both 16 sides ...You only beat Keilor and aberfeldie when he played , so if he doesnt have talent then why is he at calder instead of the so called great players that you all name on here from CJFC that did not make calder. I think it is the best thing his family done removing him from this club as he now has the support of a club that is going somewhere.How can you say he cant hack high level footy , are you saying calder is easy and anyone can get a game there? CJFC wouldnt know what hard work is as they used their u16 div 1 to win a game for their div 4 side to win a game to make finals is that what you call hard work .Think before you speak as West Coburg would walk over your u16 div 1 side easy.:p
AwEsOmEkAnGaS29
15 Sep 2008, 18:46
Let me tell you a few facts about Ben Drummond :
1.He left CJFC because the coach had no idea what he was doin.
2.Coach and staff have no respect for players.
3.Club chose injured players to play EDFL rep instead of choosing players that had talent.
Bag him all your want but CJFC are the ones who lost a great player, He is at a better club with morals not to mention winning grandfinal , Oh thats right CJFC wouldnt know what that would be like as they choked in both 16 sides ...You only beat Keilor and aberfeldie when he played , so if he doesnt have talent then why is he at calder instead of the so called great players that you all name on here from CJFC that did not make calder. I think it is the best thing his family done removing him from this club as he now has the support of a club that is going somewhere.How can you say he cant hack high level footy , are you saying calder is easy and anyone can get a game there? CJFC wouldnt know what hard work is as they used their u16 div 1 to win a game for their div 4 side to win a game to make finals is that what you call hard work .Think before you speak as West Coburg would walk over your u16 div 1 side easy.:p
west coburg are effing shit dnt ever talk those shit ****s up again!
AwEsOmEkAnGaS29
15 Sep 2008, 18:47
Let me tell you a few facts about Ben Drummond :
1.He left CJFC because the coach had no idea what he was doin.
2.Coach and staff have no respect for players.
3.Club chose injured players to play EDFL rep instead of choosing players that had talent.
Bag him all your want but CJFC are the ones who lost a great player, He is at a better club with morals not to mention winning grandfinal , Oh thats right CJFC wouldnt know what that would be like as they choked in both 16 sides ...You only beat Keilor and aberfeldie when he played , so if he doesnt have talent then why is he at calder instead of the so called great players that you all name on here from CJFC that did not make calder. I think it is the best thing his family done removing him from this club as he now has the support of a club that is going somewhere.How can you say he cant hack high level footy , are you saying calder is easy and anyone can get a game there? CJFC wouldnt know what hard work is as they used their u16 div 1 to win a game for their div 4 side to win a game to make finals is that what you call hard work .Think before you speak as West Coburg would walk over your u16 div 1 side easy.:p
west coburg are ****in shet dnt ever talk those B-grade scummers up again!
Redball
15 Sep 2008, 19:35
west coburg are ****in shet dnt ever talk those B-grade scummers up again!
WEST COBURG
West Coburg are a club with morals and standards and don't resort to dirty tactics to get their teams through to finals , maybe if you went to school learnt how to spell and learnt manners little man you might step out of that attitude you have and see that team spirit and real hard work can get you somewhere in life , other than a bitter disapointed little boy that would rather bag other peoples achievements than learn and achieve
his own . Not everyone can be in A grade but now that they won the Grand Final who knows you might just be seeing more of them .
:D:thumbsu:
wadders
15 Sep 2008, 21:15
Let me tell you a few facts about Ben Drummond :
1.He left CJFC because the coach had no idea what he was doin.
2.Coach and staff have no respect for players.
3.Club chose injured players to play EDFL rep instead of choosing players that had talent.
Bag him all your want but CJFC are the ones who lost a great player, He is at a better club with morals not to mention winning grandfinal , Oh thats right CJFC wouldnt know what that would be like as they choked in both 16 sides ...You only beat Keilor and aberfeldie when he played , so if he doesnt have talent then why is he at calder instead of the so called great players that you all name on here from CJFC that did not make calder. I think it is the best thing his family done removing him from this club as he now has the support of a club that is going somewhere.How can you say he cant hack high level footy , are you saying calder is easy and anyone can get a game there? CJFC wouldnt know what hard work is as they used their u16 div 1 to win a game for their div 4 side to win a game to make finals is that what you call hard work .Think before you speak as West Coburg would walk over your u16 div 1 side easy.:p
so you are saying that the only reason craigieburn defeated keilor & aberfeldie only because of ben drummond?
how many possesions did he have in those games? let me tell you, he would have tied his shoes more in those games then the amount of possesions that he got, if you are to say one player is the difference? it wasnt ben drummond, if craigieburn were to say they lost because they were a player short, it was aiden coakley, one of the best backman ever to play junior football, who for family reasons had to move back to south australia midway through the year.
if you saw the games against keilor and aberfeldie, you would know, craigieburn were a tall defender short, and lacking in the kick ins, which aiden was for craigieburn.
as for choking in the finals? craigieburn were definetley not the best side in either division 1 or 4. and were beaten by better teams that they werent expected to beat anyway.
as for the bagging of the cburn coach, i dont know who you are and where you gather this infomation, but he was respected by every single one of the players in the side, except for one, and that one who thought he was better then what he was, and he left. the craigieburn coach has been involved with vic metro, western jets & calder cannons, so he is a very good bluffer if you think he doesnt know what his doing.
as for calder cannons, i cant speak for selecters, but id be saying ben drummond last to long there, unless he decides to put his head over the footy, his got all the skills you can ask for, but if he cant win the footy for himself, whats the point in having those skills?
and west coburg mate, good joke, thats all i can say.
wadders
15 Sep 2008, 21:21
I've been hearing alot about Matthew Laffan, someone tell about him, he plays for craigieburn. And possibly some other good players for craigieburn 16 A's next year.
matt laffan, good wingman, tall for a wingman
at assumption college, good courage
not to sure on his skills
but always goes hard
other good players for cburn 16A's next year
luke roach
jake woods
damien bujega
nick fletcher - bottom age
matt laffan
john belino
Redball
15 Sep 2008, 23:09
so you are saying that the only reason craigieburn defeated keilor & aberfeldie only because of ben drummond?
how many possesions did he have in those games? let me tell you, he would have tied his shoes more in those games then the amount of possesions that he got, if you are to say one player is the difference? it wasnt ben drummond, if craigieburn were to say they lost because they were a player short, it was aiden coakley, one of the best backman ever to play junior football, who for family reasons had to move back to south australia midway through the year.
if you saw the games against keilor and aberfeldie, you would know, craigieburn were a tall defender short, and lacking in the kick ins, which aiden was for craigieburn.
as for choking in the finals? craigieburn were definetley not the best side in either division 1 or 4. and were beaten by better teams that they werent expected to beat anyway.
as for the bagging of the cburn coach, i dont know who you are and where you gather this infomation, but he was respected by every single one of the players in the side, except for one, and that one who thought he was better then what he was, and he left. the craigieburn coach has been involved with vic metro, western jets & calder cannons, so he is a very good bluffer if you think he doesnt know what his doing.
as for calder cannons, i cant speak for selecters, but id be saying ben drummond last to long there, unless he decides to put his head over the footy, his got all the skills you can ask for, but if he cant win the footy for himself, whats the point in having those skills?
and west coburg mate, good joke, thats all i can say.
Well well well Wadders,
Guess what you imbocile, yes your coach is a great bluffer , the truth is your coach rang the family and admitted that it was his and his staffs wrong doing that made Ben leave the club so get your information right and go ask your coach the real reason as to why he left.
As for Calder you better go down and tell them what they are doing wrong mate as they think Ben is a great player and he has performed well during Calder games , the reason they have these DEVELOPMENT squads is so they can fine tune these already talented players and work on their weaknesses.As for West Coburg a joke the the real joke is you to think that the only reason CJFC u16 lost is because they went up against stronger teams well then dont be bagging a team who won a flag in their grade as we can clearly see your 16 didnt belong in AGrade and should be in the what you all are calling lower class B Grade . You say he didnt respect the coach well you are wrong as he stayed longer than he should have and you have to give respect to get it and now everyone can see what sort of back stabbing team mates the u16 have amongst them , if that is how you guys are behind each others backs then I think even Jacana would be looking a better club to be at than CJFC.
Not having Ben on the team against those 2 clubs would have contributed to your loss as no one person makes a team it is a joint team effort which your u16 fail to deliver everytime you hit the field .He was always on the ball , hungry players chase the ball and are under it as if they are back in u10's trying to get a touch as those with talent take their position on the field and read the play before chasing it down and not causing turnovers. I have also been told one of those great players you keep mentioning that didnt make Calder but played EDFL rep has also decided to take his talent to a new club in 2009 . So your club is doing a great job keeping its talented players maybe you should think twice about what your mates really think about you as two faced people are running riot at your club.......
Enjoy the read and give ya coach a phone call asap.....
:D:p:thumbsu:
footy_brain
16 Sep 2008, 18:23
west coburg no good?? haaaahaaa
as for benny, the kids 15!!
how can he be overated? at this point in time its about enjoying your footy. something he prob wasnt doing at cragie. and developing your game. yes he has great skills good mind and will be a good size so theres nothing wrong with him being down at cannons
wadders
16 Sep 2008, 20:48
Well well well Wadders,
Guess what you imbocile, yes your coach is a great bluffer , the truth is your coach rang the family and admitted that it was his and his staffs wrong doing that made Ben leave the club so get your information right and go ask your coach the real reason as to why he left.
As for Calder you better go down and tell them what they are doing wrong mate as they think Ben is a great player and he has performed well during Calder games , the reason they have these DEVELOPMENT squads is so they can fine tune these already talented players and work on their weaknesses.As for West Coburg a joke the the real joke is you to think that the only reason CJFC u16 lost is because they went up against stronger teams well then dont be bagging a team who won a flag in their grade as we can clearly see your 16 didnt belong in AGrade and should be in the what you all are calling lower class B Grade . You say he didnt respect the coach well you are wrong as he stayed longer than he should have and you have to give respect to get it and now everyone can see what sort of back stabbing team mates the u16 have amongst them , if that is how you guys are behind each others backs then I think even Jacana would be looking a better club to be at than CJFC.
Not having Ben on the team against those 2 clubs would have contributed to your loss as no one person makes a team it is a joint team effort which your u16 fail to deliver everytime you hit the field .He was always on the ball , hungry players chase the ball and are under it as if they are back in u10's trying to get a touch as those with talent take their position on the field and read the play before chasing it down and not causing turnovers. I have also been told one of those great players you keep mentioning that didnt make Calder but played EDFL rep has also decided to take his talent to a new club in 2009 . So your club is doing a great job keeping its talented players maybe you should think twice about what your mates really think about you as two faced people are running riot at your club.......
Enjoy the read and give ya coach a phone call asap.....
:D:p:thumbsu:
Craigieburn under 16s not belonging in a grade?
How many teams defeated keilor this year during the regular season?
1.Craigieburn.
As I have stated, Ben Drummond has all the skills required, size is good, gonna develop well, but until he puts his head over the footy, you can not possibly rate him as highly as you do. If he continues the same way that he is, he wont be able to take the next step as an elite footballer, because elite footballers are able to win the footy for themselves.
I am aware of exactly went on between the coaching staff and Ben, maybe it was wrong of the staff to get stuck into him about not putting his head over the footy, or maybe it’s all a part of growing up and developing as a footballer. Some people can hack it, some people cant. As I said the coach has been involved at the highest level of junior football, so he knows what he is doing, Ben will be better for it in the long run. He took his apology and left. Simple as that.
As for backstabbing team mates?
Well personally I’m not involved with the under 16’s other then having mates playing in the side, nothing more, nothing less.
And what I do know, is that everytime they step out onto the park, they are there to play for eachother, not for themselves, mateship is that the boys pride themselves on in the under 16’s, its written all over the rooms before the game, its always the hot topic at training, everyone looks out for eachother.
But I’d like to know how many of them you actually know, and have been involved with, because from the sounds of it, you are just an onlooker, going on the craigieburn stereotype. Typical. But I guess everybody is entitled to their own opinion, some just have a more educated opinion then others.
And this player that "I continue to mention" where did I happen to mention him? I am aware of the situation going on with this player, but where was he mentioned by me in that previous piece of writing.
Redball
16 Sep 2008, 21:47
Well FYI Ben played in the game against Keilor the only time you actually beat them .As a matter of fact as I recall it Ben got the ball out of the middle kicked it forward to bellino and bellino kicked a goal which then put you's in front and went on to win the game.
Yes he has good skills , he is not perfect but that is why he is part of the development squad and what sort of person are you to single out a 15 yr old kid and say this kind of stuff about him , As for the real reason for him leaving it was not because he was told to put his head over the ball, so go back and get your uneducated info correct.And as for an apology which one was that because Ben never recieved an offical apology from anyone other than the so called apology that was send by email. As for mateship if it written on a wall then it must be true , so if i write CJFC are a pack of cheats and whingers does that make it true , I guess so because it is written on the wall....This argument can go on and on , leave your jealousy at the forum door and write the facts not what you heard from your mates mums friends husbands counsin who knows the cleaner that knows the canteen lady that heard it from the coaches wife. Just let the kid get on with his footy and wish him luck at his new club where he is happy keeping his head on his shoulders and not over the ball. All of these kids that progress to the next level all have the hopes and dreams of AFL but not all make it why do people have to try and knock their confidence and call them names for doing what they think is best for them.If CJFC players have ill feeings for him why does it matter which club or grade he is at as long as he is happy.Get on with your life and worry about your own weaknesses and how you can improve as a person.
:D:thumbsu: