QB Teams

[master bate]

Melbourne
B: D.Ward, N.Carroll, C.Bruce
HB: P.Wheatley, C.Bizzell, D.Bell
C: T.Johnstone, J.McDonald, A.Davey
HF: B.Green, R.Robertson, S.Godfrey
F: C.Sylvia, D.Neitz, M.Bate
R: J.White, B.McLean, N.Jones

I/C From: P.Johnson, R.Petterd, J.Frawley, N.Brown, B.Holland, A.Yze, S.Buckley

COLLINGWOOD
B: Tarkyn Lockyer, Shane Wakelin, Brodie Holland
HB: Heath Shaw, Harry O’Brien, Rhyce Shaw
C: Scott Pendlebury, Paul Medhurst, Leon Davis
HF: Nick Maxwell, Travis Cloke, Alan Didak
F: Dane Swan, Anthony Rocca, Ben Johnson
Foll: Josh Fraser, Shane O’Bree, Scott Burns
I/C: Dale Thomas, Tyson Goldsack, Alan Toovey, Shannon Cox, Paul Licuria, Danny Stanley, Chris Bryan

In: Shane Wakelin, Paul Licuria, Danny Stanley, Shannon Cox, Chris Bryan
Out: Simon Prestigiacomo (injured – foot), Guy Richards (omitted)

Praise the lord Miller doesn't get a game. Once again no Newton or Dunn.
PJ, Petterd, Holland and Yze would be my 4 to be on the bench.

[CaptainDavey]

Big loss to the Pies without Presti. Wakelin isn't too crash hot and this could/should be explolited.

Would love to see Buckley

[master bate]

Big loss to the Pies without Presti. Wakelin isn't too crash hot and this could/should be explolited.

Would love to see Buckley

How much would that piss Collingwood supporters off, the whole game you can say Buckley is playing

[Bartram_Class]

Brown looks set to be dropped, nice to see Buckley on the bench, no chance of him playing but gives him some hope at least.

PJ, Petterd, Frawley and Yze to make the bench.

[stickman11]

surely holland has had his day. Where is Newton:mad::mad:

[davey_magik]

Decent side we have in there, I think Holland will play and go on Rocca, with Carroll on Cloke perhaps unless he plays up the ground which in that case I'd put Wheatley on him.
Doubt Heath Shaw will play for the Pies, he's been very good for them this year so it would be a big loss.

[Supermercado]

You need Holland there. If Rocca runs riot on Carroll who else is going to play on him? Better a dud than a complete mismatch.

[Demons 21]

Melbourne
B: D.Ward, N.Carroll, C.Bruce
HB: P.Wheatley, C.Bizzell, D.Bell
C: T.Johnstone, J.McDonald, A.Davey
HF: B.Green, R.Robertson, S.Godfrey
F: C.Sylvia, D.Neitz, M.Bate
R: J.White, B.McLean, N.Jones

I/C From: P.Johnson, R.Petterd, J.Frawley, N.Brown, B.Holland, A.Yze, S.Buckley

COLLINGWOOD
B: Tarkyn Lockyer, Shane Wakelin, Brodie Holland
HB: Heath Shaw, Harry O’Brien, Rhyce Shaw
C: Scott Pendlebury, Paul Medhurst, Leon Davis
HF: Nick Maxwell, Travis Cloke, Alan Didak
F: Dane Swan, Anthony Rocca, Ben Johnson
Foll: Josh Fraser, Shane O’Bree, Scott Burns
I/C: Dale Thomas, Tyson Goldsack, Alan Toovey, Shannon Cox, Paul Licuria, Danny Stanley, Chris Bryan

In: Shane Wakelin, Paul Licuria, Danny Stanley, Shannon Cox, Chris Bryan
Out: Simon Prestigiacomo (injured – foot), Guy Richards (omitted)

Praise the lord Miller doesn't get a game. Once again no Newton or Dunn.
PJ, Petterd, Holland and Yze would be my 4 to be on the bench.

I agree with Master Bate except why is Cameron Bruce in the BP. Sylvia should be on the bench and Ben holland in the Back pocket with Bruce forward.

[master bate]

I agree with Master Bate except why is Cameron Bruce in the BP. Sylvia should be on the bench and Ben holland in the Back pocket with Bruce forward.

Don't worry too much about where the players are named, Bruce is often named back but played in the midfield, however if he lined up on Didak I wouldn't be surprised.

[Demons 21]

He might go forward to strech there backline with Presti and Clement not playing. Cause wakelin on neitz and obrien on robbo. They go no one else tall

[melbournemartin]

Bruce would be wasted on Didak. Give Bell Didak!

[master bate]

Bruce would be wasted on Didak. Give Bell Didak!
Definitely would be my first choice but if they play Maxwell forward or Bryan they might have to change a few things round

[CaptainDavey]

I don't want to jinx it or anything but I think the Pies are going to have difficulty cutting off the flow of attack from the midfield.

That and I think they're going to struggle to contain Neitz, Robertson and Bate if they all play inside the 50 arc. I believe our defence is fairly settled whereas they might be stressing with their back 6 losing Presti and possibly Shaw and having Wakelin come in without any Clement to tighten the nuts and bolts down back

[old_clint]

He might go forward to strech there backline with Presti and Clement not playing. Cause wakelin on neitz and obrien on robbo. They go no one else tall
You'd have to think Maxwell would play back together with one of the other youngsters. You'd have to go back to the Jack Regan days to find a similar vertically-challenged backline. Four players, not even Collingwood six-footers, I don't think so. If Neita can kick a couple on Wakelin early he'll be right for a bag.

[benrey_demons]

Holland - Rocca
Carroll - Cloke
Bell - Didak
Godfrey - Swan

Junior - Lockyer

Maxwell will go back to Sylvia or Bate, putting a bruce or green in the backline for a bit of class would be ideal

[CaptainDavey]

How are we gonna keep Neon Leon quiet? Who's gonna get the job?

[Bartram_Class]

You need Holland there. If Rocca runs riot on Carroll who else is going to play on him? Better a dud than a complete mismatch.
PJ.

No joke.

[Bartram_Class]

How are we gonna keep Neon Leon quiet? Who's gonna get the job?
Ward I'd guess or Brown if we get desperate.

[CaptainDavey]

Ward I'd guess or Brown if we get desperate.

The Pies midget brigade shit me, the trio of Davis, Medhurst and Didak. Add in Daisy Thomas and I get a bit worried about their small forwards. I don't picture Rocca or Cloke being as much of a threat as these blokes

[The Great Gabsby]

Ward I'd guess or Brown if we get desperate.

Maybe Petterd? Throw down a bit of a challenge to the young fella.

I think Cloke will be a worry for us. He covers a lot of ground and has a good set of hands. Wheatley will probably get first crack but wouldn't be surprised to see Bruce line up on him either, so he can hurt him the other way.

[Bartram_Class]

The Pies midget brigade shit me, the trio of Davis, Medhurst and Didak. Add in Daisy Thomas and I get a bit worried about their small forwards. I don't picture Rocca or Cloke being as much of a threat as these blokes
Thomas has been crap of late, is struggling to give it all each week, he won't have much of impact.

He's got plenty of talent though. If he didn't play in the black and white I might actually care about him.

[melbournemartin]

What about Bryan/Fraser resting up forward? Maybe PJ? Bizzell? (undersized, I know)

[Melbourne Tory]

What does Michael Newton have to do to get a game? Are there some other issues there that are not bring mentioned? Surely it can't be a lack of form as to kick goals at Sandy with a good full forward in Saunter there too, he must have some talent...

[Bartram_Class]

What does Michael Newton have to do to get a game? Are there some other issues there that are not bring mentioned? Surely it can't be a lack of form as to kick goals at Sandy with a good full forward in Saunter there too, he must have some talent...
Who would you drop for him?

No space for him now, there was a few weeks ago when Holland was getting games, but now there isnt.

[Jabso]

Goldsack, Cox, Maxwell are all over 190cms and the latter has played key position many times, but obviously with the first two's lack of experience they would be exploited. Robertson is hardly a giant at all and will be taken by O'Brien who I think is the same size. We won't be worried for height. Neitz may take Wakelin to the cleaners, he may not.

Our biggest worry would be your small forwards. If Yze, Green, Bruce all go back we could be exploited and our run from the halfback could be stopped.

[Melbourne Tory]

Who would you drop for him?

No space for him now, there was a few weeks ago when Holland was getting games, but now there isnt.

Good point the only one I could suggest would be Sylvia if he isn't fully fit.

[krustyman]

demons are near full strength and should be able to win providing they arent too soft like freo. their midfield is the biggest danger.

[doppleganger]

Wakelin to take Neitz
Harry to take Robbo
Cox to take Bate
Maxwell can also play on a tall

The biggest worry is bloody Yze, he somehow manages to bob up and kick 5 or 6 against us!!

[Bartram_Class]

Wakelin to take Neitz
Harry to take Robbo
Cox to take Bate
Maxwell can also play on a tall

The biggest worry is bloody Yze, he somehow manages to bob up and kick 5 or 6 against us!!
Stick Swan on him again. :thumbsu::cool:

[demonfan9]

demons are near full strength and should be able to win providing they arent too soft like freo. their midfield is the biggest danger.

We still have our two best defenders out in Rivers and Whelan, plus two hard nuts in Moloney and Pickett. Not at full-strength yet, but getting closer by the week I suppose.

[CaptainDavey]

We still have our two best defenders out in Rivers and Whelan, plus two hard nuts in Moloney and Pickett. Not at full-strength yet, but getting closer by the week I suppose.

Simply put, I think Collingwoods outs are bigger than ours

[Magpie Mick]

Heath Shaw trained very well today and will definetely play.

[Tarkyn_24]

How much would that piss Collingwood supporters off, the whole game you can say Buckley is playing
haha. re holland, which holland?

[melbournemartin]

We're also missing Miller.

[Supermercado]

haha. re holland, which holland?

They're both shit.

[Jabso]

They're both shit.

They're both shit except Brodie. ;)

[melbournemartin]

I reckon we should play Nathan Brown as a defensive half forward on Heath Shaw. He was very good on McLeod.

[stickman11]

I think we will struggle to kick goals this week... our defence is too weak so I wouldn't predict a win against collingwood...

The list still needs a cleanout.

[melbournemartin]

Why would we struggle to kick goals against Collingwood's relatively weak defence when we were fine vs Adelaide, which has one of the best in the business?

[Guru Bob32]

Why would we struggle to kick goals against Collingwood's relatively weak defence when we were fine vs Adelaide, which has one of the best in the business?

EXACTLY!!
Holland and Yze to play for N. Brown and Frawely

[Guru Bob32]

with Yze in it gives us more versatility up forward and can also go back on one of the collingwood small forwards and we need Holland to play as we would be undersized down back on Rocca, Cloke, Bryan, Fraiser

[Optimax]

Why would we struggle to kick goals against Collingwood's relatively weak defence when we were fine vs Adelaide, which has one of the best in the business?

Our defence isnt weak but this week you have a point only area on the ground that has been decimated by injury. Presti, Clem, Licca, Lonie. We are going to need to kick a good score to win on Monday

[dspeed]

the final 22 has been announced, only one change, Yze in for Nathan Brown

[melbournemartin]

Our defence isnt weak but this week you have a point only area on the ground that has been decimated by injury. Presti, Clem, Licca, Lonie. We are going to need to kick a good score to win on Monday

With all those outs I'd say that your defence is looking very weak.

[Bartram_Class]

the final 22 has been announced, only one change, Yze in for Nathan Brown
Frawley preferred to Holland.

Interesting.

[Optimax]

the final 22 has been announced, only one change, Yze in for Nathan Brown

Where did you hear that, what about collingwood. i hope to God Yze doesnt kick five on us agian.

[melbournemartin]

Yze definately needed to come in as he is great vs the Pies but I thought that Brown was more than servicable against McLeod. A similar role on Heath Shaw would be handy.

[dspeed]

Where did you hear that, what about collingwood. i hope to God Yze doesnt kick five on us agian.
was on the dees website, no collingwood team there

[Optimax]

was on the dees website, no collingwood team there

Thanks mate.:thumbsu:. Just nothing up on ours yet.

[magpies42]

The Pies midget brigade shit me, the trio of Davis, Medhurst and Didak. Add in Daisy Thomas and I get a bit worried about their small forwards. I don't picture Rocca or Cloke being as much of a threat as these blokes
I think you are underestimating the influence that cloke and rocca have for us. Despite there poor conversion rate they are an integral part of our side and are playing extremely well. It is because of them that the smalls are playing so well. I think if you shut down those our forward line will be very ineffective. A near impossible task given your poor tallish options, you will especially struggle if we go the 3-4 tall option (fraser, bryan, maxwell, possibly wakelin). Your best bet is to chuck all your tallent onball and see where that will get you.

[Theseventhhamster]

I think you are underestimating the influence that cloke and rocca have for us. Despite there poor conversion rate they are an integral part of our side and are playing extremely well. It is because of them that the smalls are playing so well. I think if you shut down those our forward line will be very ineffective. A near impossible task given your poor tallish options, you will especially struggle if we go the 3-4 tall option (fraser, bryan, maxwell, possibly wakelin). Your best bet is to chuck all your tallent onball and see where that will get you.

Hahaha.

[Bartram_Class]

I think you are underestimating the influence that cloke and rocca have for us. Despite there poor conversion rate they are an integral part of our side and are playing extremely well. It is because of them that the smalls are playing so well. I think if you shut down those our forward line will be very ineffective. A near impossible task given your poor tallish options, you will especially struggle if we go the 3-4 tall option (fraser, bryan, maxwell, possibly wakelin). Your best bet is to chuck all your tallent onball and see where that will get you.
Of course Malthouse will chuck Wakelin and Maxwell forward. He can just pop Shaw or Swan on Neitz, Neitz is no good any way, why man him up at all I say. :rolleyes:

Take off the black and whites glasses mate. :thumbsd:

[master bate]

Of course Malthouse will chuck Wakelin and Maxwell forward. He can just pop Shaw or Swan on Neitz, Neitz is no good any way, why man him up at all I say. :rolleyes:

Take off the black and whites glasses mate. :thumbsd:
Then Bryan and Fraser can go forward with Neon in the ruck.

In all seriousness I think the likely matchups are,

Bryan - PJ (follow him forward and into the ruck)
Rocca - Carroll
Cloke - Frawley or Bizzell
Didak - Bell

Robbo - O'brien
Neitz - Wakelin
Bate - Maxwell

[Bartram_Class]

There are whispers Rocca may not come up, hence why Holland was left out.

Will be a big bonus for us if true.

[goDees22]

There are whispers Rocca may not come up

Will be a big bonus for us if true.

lol prob would have cost us the game