View Full Version : The 10 untouchables in 2007
If memory serves me correct it was about 15 years ago when the pies traded for buckley and had to name 10 untouchables leaving brisbane to 2 of the rest(bloody good deal by the way)
If we did the same excercise today who would those 10 untouchables be. I thought I would give it a stab. So in no particular order
thomas
Pendles
Didak
Cloke
Swan
Fraser
H Shaw
Ben Johnson
Ben Reid (bit of a stab because i have not seen him but he must have talent)
10th spot of Anthony or Brown- i have not seem mush of these to but i reckon if you are listing your untouchables you need to cover all bases and a young key defender would be essential.
Remember this is not the 10 best just the 10 we would want to keep for the furture of the club. I know i have probably forgotton somebody but its not a bad list I reckon.
diggitydogs
8 Jun 2007, 18:37
Thomas the tank
Swany
H Shaw
Rocccca
Pendles
Leon neon
Diiidaaak
Cloke
R Shaw
Fraser
magpies42
8 Jun 2007, 19:11
in order of untouchableness
Heath
Pendles
Didak
Fraser
Thomas
Clarke
Cloke
Johnson
Swan
Harry
Clement
can we do the same for judd ????
in order of untouchableness
Heath
Pendles
Didak
Fraser
Thomas
Clarke
Cloke
Johnson
Swan
Harry
Clement
can we do the same for judd ????Swan and Harry would be up above Cloke and Clarke lol.
In the original list of untouchables we had Jason McCartney ;)
My Top 10 would consist of;
Pendlebury
H Shaw
Thomas
Didak
Cloke
Clement
H O'Brien
Johnson
Lockyer
Swan
Buckley, Burns, Rocca, Licuria, Wakelin, and Prestigiacomo not considered because of age.
Fraser very very stiff to miss. (and to a lesser extent Davis and Holland) but the only logic for this would be trading for a big name player.
To get something good, we would have to give up something good in return. I know I'll be open to criticism but Fraser for Riewoldt anyone?
Alan Didak
James Clement
Scott Pendlebury
Dale Thomas
Nathan Brown
Ben Reid
Anthony Rocca
Travis Cloke
Dane Swan
Heath Shaw
jerry springer
8 Jun 2007, 20:13
In order
Didak
Pendlebury
H.Shaw
T.Cloke
Swan
Thomas
Harry
Reid
Brown
Fraser
Lonie_from_50
8 Jun 2007, 20:19
Alan Didak
Scott Pendlebury
Heath Shaw
Dale Thomas
Josh Fraser
Travis Cloke
Harry O'Brien
Ben Reid
Nathan J. Brown
Dane Swan
Anthony Rocca N/A, considering yes, he is a very important player to the club, however, nobody would trade for him from now on, based on age...surely. I also class Clement and Burns and even Lockyer in that same respect.
Alan Didak
Heath Shaw
Pendlebury
Harry O'Brien
Fraser
Dane Swan
Ben Johnson
Thomas
Trav Cloke
Clement/Rocca even if they are old :)
Coin_Toss
8 Jun 2007, 20:27
Do we have 10 untouchables? It's a big number.
I can think of 5 players who are "untouchable" at the moment - I won't name them because I don't want to play favourites, but I don't think we have 5 other players in the same category. Age shouldn't have any baring on the outcome as we are talking about 2007.
stifler's mom
8 Jun 2007, 20:40
To get something good, we would have to give up something good in return. I know I'll be open to criticism but Fraser for Riewoldt anyone?[/quote]
In a heartbeat, and i'd throw in our first draft pick and my prized collection of footy cards from the early 80's.
Alan Didak
Scott Pendlebury
Heath Shaw
Dale Thomas
Josh Fraser
Travis Cloke
Harry O'Brien
Ben Reid
Nathan J. Brown
Dane Swan
Anthony Rocca N/A, considering yes, he is a very important player to the club, however, nobody would trade for him from now on, based on age...surely. I also class Clement and Burns and even Lockyer in that same respect.
Agree with this list. All young very good already or untried top picks. These are the guys we could possibly build a dynasty with.
To get something good, we would have to give up something good in return. I know I'll be open to criticism but Fraser for Riewoldt anyone?
Maybe a trade the evuates doubtful but maybe, it could set us back though yes we will have an absolute gun in the forward line but we would have to make at least one other trade on a very good ruckman probably for too
james Dean
8 Jun 2007, 21:07
IF you have them all as untouchables you can kiss any chance you have of gaining Judd or any big name player goodbye
Tarkyn_24
8 Jun 2007, 21:22
Pendlebury
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Do we have 10 untouchables? It's a big number.
I can think of 5 players who are "untouchable" at the moment - I won't name them because I don't want to play favourites, but I don't think we have 5 other players in the same category. Age shouldn't have any baring on the outcome as we are talking about 2007.
No ct 2007 has nothing to do with it. ITs simple a what if excercise related to the bucks trade of 15 years ago. Its basically the 10 players the club would not get rid of in a trade situation. Otherwise I simply would have called the thread the top 10 players.
Nothing wrong with player favorites either CT unless you are on the coaching staff.
Thommo 42
8 Jun 2007, 22:52
depends on the club sniffing around as to who you would name as an untouchable wouldn't it?
Lets assume Brisbane is the club we're trading with for this exercise.
We don't need to put Fraser or Rocca on the list, they have a few handy key forwards all younger than Rocca and have about a million good ruckmen.
The obvious ones are:
Didak
H.Shaw
Cloke
Pendles
O'Brien
Thomas
Reid
Brown
Swan
Johnson
So who would a club take based on who isn't on the list?
Clement
Davis
Lonie
R.Shaw
Presti
Lockyer
Holland
Maxwell
Goldsack
Toovey
If it was the current Brisbane lineup you'd probably have to take Clement or Prest, to settle their defence
Maybe a trade the evuates doubtful but maybe, it could set us back though yes we will have an absolute gun in the forward line but we would have to make at least one other trade on a very good ruckman probably for too
Not really, Fraser is a handy player around the ground but isnt the best ruckman. Hardly beats an opponent in terms of tap outs.
I'm just saying, as Riewoldt is an absolute gun and I would love to have him in black and white if he decided to leave the Saints.
In no particular order
Thomas
Pendlebury
Rocca
H.Shaw
R.Shaw
O'Brien
Cloke
Didak
Johnson
Swan
PieLebo87
9 Jun 2007, 19:58
To get something good, we would have to give up something good in return. I know I'll be open to criticism but Fraser for Riewoldt anyone?
If a St Kilda wanted Fraser as a 2nd ruckman or something..
Fraser to St Kilda
Reiwolt to Brisbane
Charman to Collingwood
magpie#18
10 Jun 2007, 14:40
Alan Didak
James Clement
Scott Pendlebury
Dale Thomas
Nathan Brown
Ben Reid
Anthony Rocca
Travis Cloke
Dane Swan
Heath Shaw
u cannot put a player like reid who has not proved himself yet...he could end up being a dud like alot of our other recruits over the years! touch wood !
Hadders
10 Jun 2007, 14:43
If a St Kilda wanted Fraser as a 2nd ruckman or something..
Fraser to St Kilda
Reiwolt to Brisbane
Charman to Collingwood
We are massive losers out of that trade IMO.
hellfire
10 Jun 2007, 15:31
We are massive losers out of that trade IMO.
So are the saints... Brisbane massive winners.
Thommo 42
10 Jun 2007, 16:08
u cannot put a player like reid who has not proved himself yet...he could end up being a dud like alot of our other recruits over the years! touch wood !why not?
He's an early draft pick, would you put a single figure pick on the untouchable list?
vinnie_vegas69
10 Jun 2007, 16:21
why not?
He's an early draft pick, would you put a single figure pick on the untouchable list?
If we are talking about a trade on the Nathan Buckley level, then you're essentially talking about trading for a Chris Judd.
So if the trade was for Chris Judd, my untouchables would be:
Scott Pendlebury
Dale Thomas
Travis Cloke
Heath Shaw
Alan Didak
James Clement
Anthony Rocca
Martin Clarke (:D)
It's not even 8 players long, but those are the players I don't think we could possibly gain from trading two of for Judd, some because of their ties to the club, others because I think they're our heart and soul, and Martin Clarke because he's definitely going to be at least twice as good as Chris Judd.
bradrowe#32
10 Jun 2007, 16:35
IF you have them all as untouchables you can kiss any chance you have of gaining Judd or any big name player goodbye
That suits me. I'd rather keep them than lose a couple of them to land Judd.
My top 10 (in order) would be:
Pendlebury
Shaw
Cloke
Fraser
O'Brien
Thomas
Swan
Johnson
Reid
Brown
I'm assuming no one would take Bucks, Burns, Rocca, Clement etc.
bradrowe#32
10 Jun 2007, 16:37
In the original list of untouchables we had Jason McCartney ;)
Who were the other 9?
IIRC Daicos was left off the list.
favourites
10 Jun 2007, 21:25
You can't trade fraser he is our only ruckmen who is holding down his spot in the 22. What a stupid comment. He should be our number one untouchable.
Lenny29
11 Jun 2007, 12:03
Who were the other 9?
IIRC Daicos was left off the list.
Daicos was not only left off, he was sacked before the start of 1994 (when Bucks started for us)!
Re Charman for Fraser - anyone who thinks we lose out of that clearly has either no idea or simply one eye only. Charman's a much, much better ruckman than Fraser - and although not as mobile, is a better key forward than Frase. I'd take that trade in a heartbeat.
Funnily enough, though, I'd be less keen on Fraser for Riewoldt - we got rid of our underachieving inaccurate mark-the-ball-on-centre-wing "key" forward last year!
Thommo 42
11 Jun 2007, 20:31
I ouldn't be happy to get rid of Fraser, him and Charman in combo would be nice.
Fraser is a poor mans Dean Cox - gets lots of the footy in general play and will run all day.
Very happy with Josh.
pendles
12 Jun 2007, 12:31
Pendles
Davies
Stanners
Daisy
Rocca
Didak
Bryan
Reid
Brown
Dick
Pendles
Davies
Stanners
Daisy
Rocca
Didak
Bryan
Reid
Brown
Dick
Davies is related, isn't he?