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Rowan Jones was the worst on ground last night. He wouldn't get a gig in ay other side in the comp, barring maybe richmond. His skills are shite. We kept a count of everytime he got the ball, whether his disposal either put the teammate straight into a tackle (he handballs with the strength of an IT consultant) or went directly to an Essendon player. Not to mention how many times he gets nudged out of contests or runs right by them.
He deserves his spot less than anyone in the Eagles side. I don't care if he runs hard, the bloke is a crab.
Consider my opinion updated.
No one cares to dispute this?
Not our worst by a long shot.
As far as effective disposals, and creative play goes, yes he is. I don't care what the statisticians class as effective, but seklling your teammates into trouble every possession surely isn't.
As far as effective disposals, and creative play goes, yes he is. I don't care what the statisticians class as effective, but seklling your teammates into trouble every possession surely isn't.
He can't be to blame for team mates who can't get free of their man... A lot of players sold their team mates into trouble.
Probably his worst game this season, but still not our worst by a long shot.
Rowan Jones was the worst on ground last night. He wouldn't get a gig in ay other side in the comp, barring maybe richmond. His skills are shite. We kept a count of everytime he got the ball, whether his disposal either put the teammate straight into a tackle (he handballs with the strength of an IT consultant) or went directly to an Essendon player. Not to mention how many times he gets nudged out of contests or runs right by them.
He deserves his spot less than anyone in the Eagles side. I don't care if he runs hard, the bloke is a crab.
Consider my opinion updated.
Idiot.
^^^Mate, if there's idiots on this website, it's the ones who think because rojo gets 20 odd possessions he is a gun player. People here bag fletcher because of his disposal, but look past this bloke. He would really struggle to get a gig at any other club. Any hack could come into our side and get easy touches, throw away useless possessions and get knocked off the ball while LOOKING like making an effort. This isn't community football where blokes should get a run on effort, we need classy footballers in our side and simply Rojo isn't classy.
Ricky Bobby
10 Jun 2007, 18:09
I totally agree. We would be better off without him. Yeah sure he tries hard but the skill level is not good enough. Constantly handballs to teammates in a worse off position than himself. Not smart enough. Had a shot from 50 against essendon when Le Cras was 35 out on his own for about 15 seconds. Terrible vision considering Le Cras is a super set shot from that rane. Consequently he missed and esendon goaled from the kick in. Get him out woosha!!
patsmith
10 Jun 2007, 18:21
People have been saying this for years, and the reason he is still in the team is because Woosha and the selection committee know more about football than you (and me). He's there because he plays his role and plays it right.
Rowan Jones was the worst on ground last night. He wouldn't get a gig in ay other side in the comp, barring maybe richmond. His skills are shite. We kept a count of everytime he got the ball, whether his disposal either put the teammate straight into a tackle (he handballs with the strength of an IT consultant) or went directly to an Essendon player. Not to mention how many times he gets nudged out of contests or runs right by them.
He deserves his spot less than anyone in the Eagles side. I don't care if he runs hard, the bloke is a crab.
Consider my opinion updated.
Idiot.
People have been saying this for years, and the reason he is still in the team is because Woosha and the selection committee know more about football than you (and me). He's there because he plays his role and plays it right.
Not an idiot.
I understand Rojo has a role in the team, I just don't see why with our abundance of talented footballers, we can't have someone else play that role, but when they get the ball, actually hurt the opposition.
Frizzo it's ******** supporters like you that make the Eagles look arrogant. Get your head out of your arse and watch the game closely.
EddieBettsIsAChamp
10 Jun 2007, 19:48
The major blame goes to the umpires.
Stenglein's a Champ!
10 Jun 2007, 20:21
Frizzo it's ******** supporters like you that make the Eagles look arrogant. Get your head out of your arse and watch the game closely.
It's supporters like you, who go around having a go at players after one bad game that make us look like idiots.
I understand Rojo has a role in the team, I just don't see why with our abundance of talented footballers, we can't have someone else play that role, but when they get the ball, actually hurt the opposition.
Frizzo it's ******** supporters like you that make the Eagles look arrogant. Get your head out of your arse and watch the game closely.
Take some of your own advice and go watch a game closely.
Have you ever actually been to a game?
You obviously don't understand RoJos role in the team if you think his form warrants him being dropped this season. He's a defensive half-forward, a good one at that, who also plays as a link-up man. However this year he's also done a good job of setting up goals (the number of bloody times he's got a handball or a tap out from the bottom of a pack that's led to a goal this year...) I'll admit I didn't see the Essendon game on Friday night, but I've seen every other game and he's been excellent all year, aside from maybe one or two games.
His disposal was his weakness last year (even though IMO last year he still played his role well), but this year his disposal hasn't let him down at all. Again, I didn't see the Essendon game so maybe his disposal was off on Friday night, but he doesn't deserve to be dropped for one bad game (even though I'm sure his game wasn't as bad as you're making it out to be - since you've conclusively proven you haven't a clue).
Isn't he also top 5 in the team for contested posessions? He puts his body on the line as much as anyone in the team, and whilst this may go unnoticed to people like you (read: the ignorants) thankfully it doesn't go unnoticed by the match commitee.
Really it doesn't matter what you think, because the guys selecting the team each week actually know what they're doing, and know what a good role-player RoJo is. Also, if you think I'm arrogant for sticking up for an unfairly maligned gut-busting player who gets crap slung at him from armchair experts like yourself, then ****ing colour me arrogant because I wouldn't want to be any other way.
Emerald
10 Jun 2007, 20:28
There is a place for him in our team, and anyone who doesn't think so is a fairweather supporter. His disposal isn't perfect, but I've never seen him back out of a contest and he shows leadership to the younger boys which is invaluable.
Lion El'Johnson
10 Jun 2007, 20:37
Guys, despite the fact that he does what the coaches want him to do, doesn't negate the fact that he does turnover the ball.
I agree with the poster of this thread... he does sell his team into trouble. This doesn't warrant him being dropped, as you said he does other roles well. But he needs to improve on these negative aspects. The coaching staff should be teaching him. But then, it is very hard to teach footy smarts and awareness.
Luke124
10 Jun 2007, 21:27
Take some of your own advice and go watch a game closely.
Have you ever actually been to a game?
You obviously don't understand RoJos role in the team if you think his form warrants him being dropped this season. He's a defensive half-forward, a good one at that, who also plays as a link-up man. However this year he's also done a good job of setting up goals (the number of bloody times he's got a handball or a tap out from the bottom of a pack that's led to a goal this year...) I'll admit I didn't see the Essendon game on Friday night, but I've seen every other game and he's been excellent all year, aside from maybe one or two games.
His disposal was his weakness last year (even though IMO last year he still played his role well), but this year his disposal hasn't let him down at all. Again, I didn't see the Essendon game so maybe his disposal was off on Friday night, but he doesn't deserve to be dropped for one bad game (even though I'm sure his game wasn't as bad as you're making it out to be - since you've conclusively proven you haven't a clue).
Isn't he also top 5 in the team for contested posessions? He puts his body on the line as much as anyone in the team, and whilst this may go unnoticed to people like you (read: the ignorants) thankfully it doesn't go unnoticed by the match commitee.
Really it doesn't matter what you think, because the guys selecting the team each week actually know what they're doing, and know what a good role-player RoJo is. Also, if you think I'm arrogant for sticking up for an unfairly maligned gut-busting player who gets crap slung at him from armchair experts like yourself, then ****ing colour me arrogant because I wouldn't want to be any other way.
Good call mate. RoJo is the link man in our team and a bloody good one. Maybe he aint flashy and quick but he is a key to our forward line functioning well.
^^^Mate, if there's idiots on this website, it's the ones who think because rojo gets 20 odd possessions he is a gun player. People here bag fletcher because of his disposal, but look past this bloke. He would really struggle to get a gig at any other club. Any hack could come into our side and get easy touches, throw away useless possessions and get knocked off the ball while LOOKING like making an effort. This isn't community football where blokes should get a run on effort, we need classy footballers in our side and simply Rojo isn't classy.
You and your friends don't know anything about footy.
Frizzo is right on the money.. i suggest you read what he wrote and then watch RoJo play..
He ain't perfect but he does way more for the team then you are noticing. Why are you saying to look past Fletcher? Rojo's been FAR better then him this season.
Rowan Jones was the worst on ground last night. He wouldn't get a gig in ay other side in the comp, barring maybe richmond.
No thanks, I dont think even richmond want him :P ;)
thefamilyguy
11 Jun 2007, 15:56
I blame chris judd. anyone who plays next to him looks average
I've said it before, the guy is a joke.
It seems I am one of the few who think this way, and will be branded an idiot by those who are clearly the experts here.
daddy_4_eyes
11 Jun 2007, 17:51
Rojo has a fantastic football brain and creates a lot of play across HF. His overhead marking and clever handpasses are an asset, even if his kicking is below average (though much improved this season). Not our most important player by a long shot, but plays his role well in the team.
^^^Rowan Jones a clever football brain, and clever handballs. His handballs look like he is having a competition with himself to see how high and slow he can hit them.
Couple of points cleared up below.
I understand footy, I put to anyone who doubts it what level they have made it to in football, and we'll debate then.
I was a member until I become agitated at the supporters the successful Eagles attract, they are fairweather supporters not me, I have been an Eagles fan since their introduction to the competition.
My key point is, with our abundance of running players, someone else can be a defensive half forward, just someone who can punish his opposite number, not just run around next to him.
I sometimes think RoJo should just be nicknamed 'scapegoat'. Whenever Eagles lose, or the forward doesn't function well (which is fairly often :() the mob starts shouting 'Get rid of RoJo !"
Rojo has been in our top 10 for disposals, marks and tackles over the last two years. He played 23 games last year, and all 11 this year. It's pretty obvious Woosha is happy enough with him. Maybe those of you not happy with him playing should take it up with Woosha.
My key point is, with our abundance of running players, someone else can be a defensive half forward, just someone who can punish his opposite number, not just run around next to him.
Woosha will be awaiting your suggestions with bated-breath I'm sure :rolleyes:
Rowan Jones was the worst on ground last night. He wouldn't get a gig in ay other side in the comp, barring maybe richmond. His skills are shite. We kept a count of everytime he got the ball, whether his disposal either put the teammate straight into a tackle (he handballs with the strength of an IT consultant) or went directly to an Essendon player. Not to mention how many times he gets nudged out of contests or runs right by them.
He deserves his spot less than anyone in the Eagles side. I don't care if he runs hard, the bloke is a crab.
Consider my opinion updated.
The Moron Police have been called.
He didnt have a great game last night, but neither did a lot of players.
Rojo is quality and easily in our best 22.
The major blame goes to the umpires.
Mate, we shouldn't have even let Essendon get to within 3 goals of us for the rest of the game after being 6 goals up.
Good teams dont do that.
Some Eagles fans around me were laughing saying "mate, were just playing with them, giving them some hope then we;ll kick away in the end"
I was just like "You idiot!" and walked off - We just arent playing well this year - fullstop!
Consider my opinion updated.
Somehow I suspect your opinion isn't only not updated, but totally inflexible. You've made a judgement on Jones based upon a few poor games a few years ago, and no matter what you can't see why he's in the team.
You've prejudged the guy, and refuse to look at the evidence. Fortunately, the match committee don't live up your arse and thus have intelligent opinions.
Somehow I suspect your opinion isn't only not updated, but totally inflexible. You've made a judgement on Jones based upon a few poor games a few years ago, and no matter what you can't see why he's in the team.
You've prejudged the guy, and refuse to look at the evidence. Fortunately, the match committee don't live up your arse and thus have intelligent opinions.
"Somehow I suspect your opinion isn't only not updated, but totally inflexible."
It's this sort of 'mob-think' that has led me to the idea of the 'Scapegoat Rowan'.
Primitive thinkers prefer to target and blame a one, simple problem and a one, simple solution and having done that, can't shift off it.
RoJo, despite being a vice captain (?) was banished to the WAFL for all of 2005. He then went about 'updating himself' in 2006 and got himself a premiership, totally earned :thumbsu:
And he's still goin' Rowin'. Respect.
^^^ I know this does happen, but that is not my reason for disliking Rowan Jones. I said earlier in the season I actually saw a couple of games where it looked like he was turning the corner, when his disposal picked up.
When you say he is in our top 10 for marks, possessions etc it is exactly what I'm talking about as far as people not seeing past stats. Let's put it his way, in the West Coast team, if you could any player to get thirty touches, based on their effectiveness, who would you pick?
In my books, Rowan Jones would be the last picked.
As far as who else we could put into that position as a defensive half forward, I think with our side at full strength there are many people who could play that role with more effectiveness, take your pick from any of the fringe midfielders with better skills and decision making.
I've never denied the bloke gives his all, and ought to be commended on that fact, but he is just not classy enough in my opinion to warrant a place in such a great side.
larrikin
13 Jun 2007, 01:12
Best haircut in the AFL. Ever.
Now that opinion is updated!!!
Keyser Soze
13 Jun 2007, 04:31
Rojo is one of those players who works hard but is not blessed with silky skills and therefore often looks awkward out on the field. As a result his mistakes tend to stand out more as opposed to someone like Judd who still looks fluent streaming towards goal only to kick a point.
For whatever reason Rojo's hard work seems to go unappreciated by many whilst a player like Chick is almost universally praised (rightly so I might add) for the grunt work he does despite averaging about half as many possessions. I'd suggest that Rojo contributes just as much to our side as Chick yet he comes under far more scrutiny if he has a bad game.
Having said all that and as much as I admire Rojo, when (if) we have a full list to choose from it is hard to find a place for him in the best 22.
B : Wirrpanda Glass Selwood
HB : B Jones Hunter Waters
C : Braun Stenglein Nicoski
HF : Embley Hansen Butler
F : Staker Lynch Cousins
R : Cox Judd Kerr
I/C : Seaby Priddis Rosa Chick
EM : Hurn R Jones Fletcher
Missing : Sampi Armstrong Graham LeCras Morton Brown Wooden
Yet to play : McKinley Spangher McKenzie Houlihan Schofield Thomson
I don't claim that is the definitive best 22 but it goes to show how much competition there is for the last 3 or 4 spots.
he is just not classy enough
You keep saying this!
Why does it matter?!?!
He's effective, he doesn't need to be classy.
You say there's sooooo many players who could fill his role...but I think you'd struggle to find the players that can take a strong mark and can win the contested ball on half forward like Rowan Jones does.
If you believe Rojo does as much work for the team than Chicky, then why would chick get a spot ahead of Rojo in your full strength team?
The fact is, as i mentioned before, If I was going to choose any Eagles player to have thirty or more possessions, Rojo would be my very last choice. I'll substitute the word classy for effective if it makes you feel better. Rowan Jones is not effective enough to hurt an oppositin player like a defensive forward needs to. They need to make the most of their oppurtunity on the rebound, something he doesn't do. For all I care, when Waters is back put him in the backline, and chuck hurn up to the forward line as the defensive player. His kicking depth will actually hurt the opposition on turnovers.
Keyser Soze
13 Jun 2007, 15:22
The point I was trying to make about Rojo is that he is unfairly maligned and I thought Chick was an interesting comparison in that you don't see anywhere near the same level of criticism of Chick after a sub standard game.
As far as Rojo's exclusion from my best side is concerned, I have Chick just ahead of him because he provides us with that bit of mongrel that I believe all sides need. Rojo is really competing with Butler, Rosa and Priddis for a spot and I wouldn't argue with anyone who wanted to put him in front of that trio.
In a way we agree with each other in that we don't think he is in our best 22, although it would be fair to say I would have him a closer to it than you.
^^^No I think we agree almost completely. He is fighting for a spot with those guys, and they stand above him because of their CLASS. They have better skills, and in my opinion footy smarts. That is why I don't think he should be in our side. As I have said he tries his guts out, but at professional level I don't think effort cuts it.
flyinghi64
13 Jun 2007, 15:50
Maybe Rojo's worst game for the year but he is having probably his best year with the club. On performances against Essendon the worst player was Braun, sorry mate but you can do a lot better going on your form this year.
One average game doesn't equal worst player at the club we have a few worse than Rojo don't you worry.
The fact you were all concentrating on his efforts shows 2 things,
1- You never were keen on the guy from the start.
2- You concentrated too much on him and didn't notice all the other below par performances.
There you got a bite.:rolleyes:
^^^I agree in a sense. I am more focused on Rojos bad games than people the ilk of Micheal Braun.
What that shows me is that he has poor games more consistently then the ones who did have a bad game against the Bombers. I would rather crucify someone who is consistently bad, than Braun who has a whole lot more value than Rojo.
Mighty Eagles
13 Jun 2007, 18:18
As far as effective disposals, and creative play goes, yes he is (Shyte). I don't care what the statisticians class as effective, but seklling your teammates into trouble every possession surely isn't.
Too true
To be honest, I don't think he's competing with Priddis, Butler, Rosa etc.
I don't think any of those three would play RoJos role well. Jones is a better mark than all 3, and wins more contested ball than all 3 (with the exception of maybe Priddis if he's playing well).
Plus, Priddis is much more useful in the middle.
Of course, the fact that Jones can run in the midfield and get 30+ posessions also adds to his value. His disposals may be mostly handballs, but that is largely due to the fact that, as I've said a thousand times, HE WINS THE CONTESTED BALL.
Rojo is one of those players who works hard but is not blessed with silky skills and therefore often looks awkward out on the field. As a result his mistakes tend to stand out more as opposed to someone like Judd who still looks fluent streaming towards goal only to kick a point.
For whatever reason Rojo's hard work seems to go unappreciated by many whilst a player like Chick is almost universally praised (rightly so I might add) for the grunt work he does despite averaging about half as many possessions. I'd suggest that Rojo contributes just as much to our side as Chick yet he comes under far more scrutiny if he has a bad game.
Having said all that and as much as I admire Rojo, when (if) we have a full list to choose from it is hard to find a place for him in the best 22.
B : Wirrpanda Glass Selwood
HB : B Jones Hunter Waters
C : Braun Stenglein Nicoski
HF : Embley Hansen Butler
F : Staker Lynch Cousins
R : Cox Judd Kerr
I/C : Seaby Priddis Rosa Chick
EM : Hurn R Jones Fletcher
Missing : Sampi Armstrong Graham LeCras Morton Brown Wooden
Yet to play : McKinley Spangher McKenzie Houlihan Schofield Thomson
I don't claim that is the definitive best 22 but it goes to show how much competition there is for the last 3 or 4 spots.
Id have Rojo in the side before the lightweight Rosa.
Interesting comparison with Chick. Everyone loves Chick for the hard work he does, yet Rojo does much the same and gets more of the footy yet is much maligned.
Ah well, I love him and im glad he is getting plenty of games for us and playing in premierships. Kind of an "in your face" for the doubters.
What that shows me is that he has poor games more consistently then the ones who did have a bad game against the Bombers. I would rather crucify someone who is consistently bad, than Braun who has a whole lot more value than Rojo.
This just entrenches my thoughts that you've (1) got no idea and (2) made up your mind years ago, and nothing will change it.
This just entrenches my thoughts that you've (1) got no idea and (2) made up your mind years ago, and nothing will change it.
Paul Pierce... or for those who arent in the know. The Truth.
I've said it before, the guy is a joke.
And I dare say, you'll say it again and again, until he finally gets dropped because of old age. :rolleyes:
It seems I am one of the few who think this way, and will be branded an idiot
And deservedly so :)
Interested to hear what you guys think about my last comments...particularly jod and keyser?
Keyser Soze
14 Jun 2007, 16:22
To be honest, I don't think he's competing with Priddis, Butler, Rosa etc.
I don't think any of those three would play RoJos role well. Jones is a better mark than all 3, and wins more contested ball than all 3 (with the exception of maybe Priddis if he's playing well).
Plus, Priddis is much more useful in the middle.
Of course, the fact that Jones can run in the midfield and get 30+ posessions also adds to his value. His disposals may be mostly handballs, but that is largely due to the fact that, as I've said a thousand times, HE WINS THE CONTESTED BALL.
I agree with you that neither Priddis, Rosa or Butler would play Rojo's role as well as what Rojo does.
However, whilst the game styles of those players are different (Butler and Rosa are not greatly different) they are effectively competing with each other for a place in the best 22, along with the likes of Hurn, Fletcher, Morton, LeCras etc.
IMO there are only a handful of players who haven't cemented their spot in the best possible 22 I posted - Nicoski, Butler, Staker, Priddis and Rosa - and on recent form the last three are well on their way to doing so. The others would have to have a sustained run of poor form before they were dropped.
Reality is that injuries usually mean not every player is available at the same time, so I am more than happy to have Rojo running around out there and I'd love to see him with another premiership medal around his neck.
BTW, I find it funny that a player that causes so many "fans" to tear their hair out has such a full head of hair himself (poorly cut as it is).
thefamilyguy
14 Jun 2007, 19:17
I've got a quick point..... would anyone pick rojo over Ben Cousins or Nickoski?
(assuming ben is comming back - thats another argument but just assume for a minute )
When they both come back who are you going to drop? I think Priddis is the closest to ben cousins in game style, but has also cemented a place over rojo. I would rather ben and priddis playing rojo's role than rojo. One as a pure midfielder and 1 as more of a half forward/mid.
Nickoski is also to come back, and when fit is in our 22. I think hurn has just about locked himself in, as has selwood. Its getting tight here.
the point is... i think rowan jones has played his last final, and won't get a game when others come back from injury.
Nicoski's a running defender or wingman. Cousins is a midfielder. Jones is a defensive half forward.
Compare apples with apples hey....
^^^I don't think you have to compare apples with apples in this case. All of those players are versatile, a strength of West Coast's. I don't think a huge hole would be left if Jones was omitted, while Nico and Cuz are definitely the better players. I agree, Jones has played his last final, so long as we are full strength by then.
^^^I don't think you have to compare apples with apples in this case. All of those players are versatile, a strength of West Coast's. I don't think a huge hole would be left if Jones was omitted, while Nico and Cuz are definitely the better players. I agree, Jones has played his last final, so long as we are full strength by then.
Given your original post, I take anything you post with a grain of salt - if I can be bothered wasting a grain of salt at all.
flyinghi64
15 Jun 2007, 17:44
I've said it before and I will say it again Rojo isn't a finisher, Rojo isn't a goal kicker Rojo isn't a flashy run and bounce player, Rojo isn't a 50-60m bomber.
Rojo is a possession/passer. He get's the ball and gives it to the people who do all of the above.
Instead of always looking what he does, have a look at what the guy he gives the ball to does. He often get's overlooked as he is at the start of the play not 2,3,4 possessions down the line at the finish. You need guy's like this.
Look at the Eagles moto;
If he didn't do this and he didn't do that and he didn't put his body on the line and he didn't etc etc etc he wouldn't be kicking on goals.
nuf said:D
JinmboJones
15 Jun 2007, 21:53
So to those who would have RJ in the starting 22 - the fact that he OBVIOUSLY has zero confidence/ability when kicking doesn't seem to dampen your enthusiasm for having him in a *foot*ball team?
How can you possibly select someone who can't kick a football to save his life? To me this is probably his biggest problem. It's so obvious when he gets the ball all he's going to do is handpass. I'm pretty sure opposition coaches would have worked him out by now, don't you think?
Liability.
Keyser Soze
15 Jun 2007, 22:45
^^^^
Included among those who would have him in the best 22 is one John Worsfold so maybe we should ask him how a liability like Rojo could possibly be selected?
Obvious that when he gets the ball all he is going to do is handpass? So far this season he has had 223 disposals including 87 kicks, which means he kicks about 40% of the time.
Do you really think that if he wasn't doing what the coaches were asking him to do, he would be getting a game?
Liability my ass.
How can you possibly select someone who can't kick a football to save his life?
Why don't you think he can kick a football to save his life?
His kicking has been fine this year, and save for a few howlers, his kicking wasn't as bad as everyone seems to think last year either.
I can think of some beautiful passes he's made to forwards this year, and just watch the qualifying final vs Sydney last year if you want to see some good RoJo field kicking.
The main reason he never kicks is because he's in first, at the bottom of packs along half forward or out on the lead taking the ball out in front. All players in these situations look for a quick handball out.
Milkman
10 Jul 2007, 13:40
*cough cough* ahem
What, did he have a bad game?
Should we drop just him, or everyone who had a bad game?
I guess we'd be able to field around half a team, at least.
slidetribe
11 Jul 2007, 01:15
What, did he have a bad game?
Should we drop just him, or everyone who had a bad game?
I guess we'd be able to field around half a team, at least.
No, you clown... let's just drop the player's that have consistently bad games and are taking the place of better, fit players.
RoJo is an obvious example... Now I know Worsfold has faith in him, and I wish I could know why, but the fact is that a vast amount of WCE supporters think he is a liability in the team.
Milkman
11 Jul 2007, 05:45
No, you clown... let's just drop the player's that have consistently bad games and are taking the place of better, fit players.
RoJo is an obvious example... Now I know Worsfold has faith in him, and I wish I could know why, but the fact is that a vast amount of WCE supporters think he is a liability in the team.
He's been good for most of the year. Why drop him, when the majority of the team has been poor of late?
There's a reason that "a vast amount of supporters" don't coach the team, and Worsfold does.
As ordinary as he has been lately he wont be dropped this weekend, I wouldnt think, with all the injuries we have recieved lately.
But he definately needs to lift because he and Fletcher are our snior players out there this weekend assuming Judd doesnt come up.