View Full Version : Quinten Lynch.... Honest feedback please
its not eagle bashing, i respect most of your players.... BUT
Quinten lynch is possibly the most overrated player ever
i know theres alot of hype about him and he has improved alot in recent years but i dont see the attraction on the ground. Could this be because its been a while since the eagles have had a good full forward whose lasted more then a few years?
Why should i respect Quinten... im not being condascending im actually asking. try to change my mind cos im sick of not liking him... everytime i see that "Not anymore" ad i want to scream
EagleMan87
9 Jun 2007, 16:26
You should respect him because he's one of the hardest working players in the AFL. Even though he doesn't have that much skill he never gives up.
Id prefer him at CHF and Hansen at FF personally
Arcadion
9 Jun 2007, 16:33
Overrated? Underrated more like it. No one actually rates him.
eagles06
9 Jun 2007, 17:05
He is a very selfish player, he does do some good work up the ground but he is very selfish in front of goal.
West Coast 06
9 Jun 2007, 17:16
its not eagle bashing, i respect most of your players.... BUT
Quinten lynch is possibly the most overrated player ever
i know theres alot of hype about him and he has improved alot in recent years but i dont see the attraction on the ground. Could this be because its been a while since the eagles have had a good full forward whose lasted more then a few years?
Why should i respect Quinten... im not being condascending im actually asking. try to change my mind cos im sick of not liking him... everytime i see that "Not anymore" ad i want to screamWhat do you want us to say? He is not over rated, as no-one rates him.
As for us trying to talk you into respecting him, why would we bother? If you dont like him, you dont like him whats the big deal? There are plenty of players out there that I dont like for no good reason but I dont go onto the boards hoping other supporters will change my mind.:confused:
You should respect him because he's one of the hardest working players in the AFL. Even though he doesn't have that much skill he never gives up.
Bah that logic makes Ian Perrie respected:p
But my opinion of Q is that he works well as a decoy forward because the oppisistion's best defender is always forced onto him which lets blokes like Hansen and Staker have lesser defenders on them. He suits the team structurally but should probably spend less time calling for the ball.
What do you want us to say? He is not over rated, as no-one rates him.
As for us trying to talk you into respecting him, why would we bother? If you dont like him, you dont like him whats the big deal? There are plenty of players out there that I dont like for no good reason but I dont go onto the boards hoping other supporters will change my mind.:confused:
just trying to work out what all the hypes about and why he was such a high profile when IMO there are several players in the West Coast team who never get a mention and come under constant scrutiny (RoJo). Jones does more then lynch but lynch's position is never questioned
As for your not over-rated comment - as if no one rates him... Eagles fans rave about him as if he were Wayne Carey... Maybe i just know the wrong eagles fans
I think lynch has been really good this year, i think his work rate is better then last year, and all his stats, besides goals, would be better then last year, he just needs to improve his kicking. Im dissapointed that the egales didnt pik smith up in the draft though atm with hansen out lynch could be playing CHF and smith could play FF. JUst watchign the subi, sth freo game Smith is having some shots from 50 and they are just goign straight through the middle.
I've never been a fan. He is very very selfish. I have rarely seen him get the ball anywhere inside 80 metres from goal do anything but kick it towards the goals. And I don't mean centering kicks to the top of the goalsquare, its just like he wants to show off how far he can kick the ball. Although he is nowhere near as bad as rowan jones. Everytime anyone stuffs up anything, at work, in backyard cricket, or amateur footy, i refer to them as rojo. Honestly a dud.
he wears a glove! :thumbsu:
Mr Eagle
9 Jun 2007, 20:02
As for your not over-rated comment - as if no one rates him... Eagles fans rave about him as if he were Wayne Carey... Maybe i just know the wrong eagles fans
Like so many of West Coast's cult FF figures of the past (Wilson, Cummings, et al), it's rarely their stellar scoring statistics that make them so popular (Cummings' 1999 Coleman notwithstanding).
BK Eaglesfan
9 Jun 2007, 20:20
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Correct, I think most Eagles supporters are aware of his short comings. We do tend to defend him when people say he flat out can't play, I mean he did kick 60 odd goals last year. But primarily he's a cult hero! :thumbsu:
He has to learn how to lead. Then he has to learn how to time a lead. Was woeful last nite.
He has to learn how to lead. Then he has to learn how to time a lead. Was woeful last nite.
Absolutley agree.
Completely lacked any timing at all last night.
Other than that (and his inaccuracy) Im happy with the big Q.
when he's on song he's awesome to watch...when he's having a barry crocker he's fair game for criticism. Just a little unfortunate that he's had a few more crockers than solid games this year.
Lynch takes a mark
9 Jun 2007, 21:38
so much better up the ground
he needs a Brad Smith of Chad Jones deep forward to compliment his work rate
picklesrules
9 Jun 2007, 22:19
Suriously, Lynchy is a hard working player and he can be selfish at times though there are times were he will centere the ball or pass it of for a player whos in closer. He hasnt got the accurcey of materia no but hes still quite young and as every player who plays footy he's still training and getting his kicking straight. Also when he does move down the field he is absoultey awsome. So yeh lynchy will one day improve that kick of his weither it be tommorow or next season it takes time to develop a top ff.
Thx ,Nicko:thumbsu:
Eagle_boy
9 Jun 2007, 23:58
I like Lynchy but he is very one dimensional......he doesn't dummy lead, will nearly always take marks in front of the face instead of mixing it up and taking marks on the chest...and I still think he leads way to the pockets too much.
However saying this QL is doing his part for the team
Alphanumeric
10 Jun 2007, 00:26
Apart from his bad kicking for goal this year I've think he has been great.
He has had the 3rd amount of shots on goal this year.
If he had kicked straighter say 30.19 we wouldn't even be talking about him.
If he had kicked straighter say 30.19 we wouldn't even be talking about him.
Correct.
We can be a fickle bunch, here at WC. :rolleyes:
West Coast 06
10 Jun 2007, 01:05
I've never been a fan. He is very very selfish. I have rarely seen him get the ball anywhere inside 80 metres from goal do anything but kick it towards the goals. And I don't mean centering kicks to the top of the goalsquare, its just like he wants to show off how far he can kick the ball. Although he is nowhere near as bad as rowan jones. Everytime anyone stuffs up anything, at work, in backyard cricket, or amateur footy, i refer to them as rojo. Honestly a dud.Exaggerate much? I think you have been listen to Wayne Carey too much.
As for Rojo, he may not have the polish of a Judd, but he works his arse off for our team.
placebo
10 Jun 2007, 01:10
Wow, some people are being far too harsh on Lynch.
Last night the disposal coming into him was terrible.
Constantly kicks went over his head or they were loopy and high which made it easy for Michael and Fletcher to spoil.
Mr Eagle
10 Jun 2007, 10:10
Correct.
We can be a fickle bunch, here at WC. :rolleyes:
Is it so bad to expect a first-string key forward to have a positive goals:behinds ratio? He is the only bloke in the league's top 25 goalkickers to have more behinds than goals.
Sure those 19 goals have been valuable, but forwards aren't there to possess the ball. They're there to convert opportunities into points on the board.
What we should have done is put Seaby and Lynch in the forward line that would have had Fletcher and Michael busy and continually kicked to people who can score like Morton and Le Cras. They may not be the most experienced guys in the team but they can score more than Lynchy with half the disposals.
I'm not exaggerating. Maybe it's his role, but I much prefer the way Lloyd plays and sets teammates up. Instead we always end up with the ball on the goal line, where its to easy to negate.
Is it so bad to expect a first-string key forward to have a positive goals:behinds ratio? He is the only bloke in the league's top 25 goalkickers to have more behinds than goals.
Sure those 19 goals have been valuable, but forwards aren't there to possess the ball. They're there to convert opportunities into points on the board.
Sure but Alpha was right.
IF he'd kicked straighter there would be no argument.
Dont get me wrong, I do wish he hadnt missed as many as he has. :thumbsu:
Lynch takes a mark
10 Jun 2007, 14:57
At this point last year he kicked 18.14 and had much less of the ball up the ground.
you can blame Lynch for the loss but compare him to Barry Hall, Tony Rocca and Jonathan Brown, really the only similar players in the league, hight and weight wise.
Hall - 22 goals 7.1 marks per game
Brown - 24 goals 7.4 marks per game
Rocca - 22 goals 6.9 marks per game
Lynch - 21 goals 7.4 marks per game
nothing in it, at most 3 goals over 11 games.
if Lynch gets his points per game down from 2.6 to something like 1.5 and ups the goals per game from 1.9 up to 3.2 - 3.7 like the second half of last year then he will be in some very good form.
Ricky Bobby
10 Jun 2007, 18:19
Id prefer him at CHF and Hansen at FF personally
Couldnt agree with you more embers. We bomb it in long to Lynch and he is never gonna take a big pack mark.
Stenglein's a Champ!
10 Jun 2007, 20:27
At the moment I think it's a confidence issue.
He seems to be looking for the ball up the ground more because he's not comfortable with his kicking from inside 40m.
TheBigUnit
10 Jun 2007, 20:27
Agree with the Lynch comments regarding pack marks, it's surprising that a man of his stature and build rarely takes any. If he is playing FF, the other forwards should give him more space so he can contest 1 on 1 with the FB, which is what he is most comfortable doing and will win more than 50% of the time.
Though in saying that, I'd also prefer to see him at CHF more often as it suits his strengths more (quick of the mark for a guy his size, long kick etc.) and maybe play Seabs at FF? He seems a good pack mark, good overhead and a good set shot, all qualities you'd like to see in a FF, so maybe give him more of a shot there?