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bingo_dervish
10 Jun 2007, 16:21
who were the standouts from each club in this game.
Anyone predict final 30 (VM)
Trent Cotchin was a standout for the time he spent on the ground, he only played about 1 and a half qtrs out of the three. I thought Luke Potts was also good from Metro.
The guys that I thought played well were:
VM
Cotchin - Northern
Lobbe - Eastern
Potts - Dandenong
Arrowsmith - Calder
Veszpremi - Northern
DeBruin - Oakleigh
Hogel - Oakleigh
Daniher - Calder
VC
McKenna - Gippsland
Simpson - Murray
Gaylor - Bendigo
Normington - Murray
Suban - Nth Ballarat
Note that Kruezer and Grimes did not play for VM due to injury.
Footynut08
10 Jun 2007, 19:29
The guys that I thought played well were:
VM
Cotchin - Northern
Lobbe - Eastern
Potts - Dandenong
Arrowsmith - Calder
Veszpremi - Northern
DeBruin - Oakleigh
Hogel - Oakleigh
Daniher - Calder
VC
McKenna - Gippsland
Simpson - Murray
Gaylor - Bendigo
Normington - Murray
Suban - Nth Ballarat
Note that Kruezer and Grimes did not play for VM due to injury.
How did the other Eastern and Northern Knights boys go? also how did Adam Marricc Go?
How did the other Eastern and Northern Knights boys go? also how did Adam Marricc Go?
Nye was quiet by his standards, but still had a bit of the ball. Noy was ok and had a few touches in the backline. Renton and Zomer were handy without being dominant.
Totino was busy and gathered quite a few touches, Meredith flashesd in and out, but didn't notice him that much. Zaharakis was impressive, and probably could have included him in the better players for VM. Bongetti didn't get near it and looked overweight, and Hurley was ok at CHB.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=336861
Presented well up forward, and kicked 3 (IIRC) in the second quarter.
macca69
10 Jun 2007, 20:15
The guys that I thought played well were:
Note that Kruezer and Grimes did not play for VM due to injury.
Polkinghorne and Farmer also missed for VM and Hurley missed for VC fwiw.
macca69
10 Jun 2007, 20:17
Also has anyone heard what's happened to Scott Simpson? Went off the ground and looked in a fair bit of pain. Really hope he hasn't re-done his knee :(
blues2010
10 Jun 2007, 20:30
Also has anyone heard what's happened to Scott Simpson? Went off the ground and looked in a fair bit of pain. Really hope he hasn't re-done his knee :(
just got a slight corky and is ok no major damage and should get through as looked ok when he was on
macca69
10 Jun 2007, 20:33
just got a slight corky and is ok no major damage and should get through as looked ok when he was on
great to hear, cheers for that :thumbsu:
KB Hungry
10 Jun 2007, 20:52
Maric, Joyce Trengrove?
Maric, Joyce Trengrove?
Maric and Joyce flashed in and out, but both showed that they really have some skill. I made comment during the day that if Joyce had 5-7cm extra on him, then he'd almost be guaranteed to be drafted. I just think that at 170cm, he's just too small to be drafted.
Trengrove did some nice things accross off HB, and would really be pushing for a top 10 selection in next years draft.
how did the geelong boys go?
Dangerfield was the pick of the bunch. Used the ball pretty nicely off HB, and gathered quite a bit of the ball.
just got a slight corky and is ok no major damage and should get through as looked ok when he was on
By the way he was walking around the boundary line, I suggest he would have been winded as well. Pretty heavy knock that.
KING-JAMES
10 Jun 2007, 22:43
Did Daniher play forward or backline? If forward is he playing as a lead up forward or a goal kicking forward?
Still look like a good pick up?
darcytiger
11 Jun 2007, 01:05
HBF doin a great job, how did Otten go?
darcytiger
11 Jun 2007, 11:57
just saw that he wasnt playing, bit stiff IMO
tommahawk
11 Jun 2007, 12:00
i actually think mick hurley from the northern knights was awsome at centre haalf back, shows great leadership for a younger age player and is going to go very high up in the 2008 draft!
how did Rexy Taylor go for (vc)
over the top
11 Jun 2007, 17:15
i actually think mick hurley from the northern knights was awsome at centre haalf back, shows great leadership for a younger age player and is going to go very high up in the 2008 draft!
he shudnt have been at CHB he shudda been up forward i rekon, thats where he plays his best stuff
just saw that he wasnt playing, bit stiff IMO
is that ford that didn't play???
Did Daniher play forward or backline? If forward is he playing as a lead up forward or a goal kicking forward?
Still look like a good pick up?
Played in the backline, and did a terrific job. Took quite a few marks and used the ball well. Would have thought it would be an easy decision for the Bombers at years end. However, with the new bidding system in place, Essendon will have to "give more" than a 3rd round selection for him.
HBF doin a great job, how did Otten go?
He did pretty will mate. Played accross HB and got a bit of the ball. Moved forward and kicked at least one.
macca69
11 Jun 2007, 19:08
Played in the backline, and did a terrific job. Took quite a few marks and used the ball well. Would have thought it would be an easy decision for the Bombers at years end. However, with the new bidding system in place, Essendon will have to "give more" than a 3rd round selection for him.
Is it confirmed he'll go to the Bombers, or are Sydney still a chance of getting him?
Is it confirmed he'll go to the Bombers, or are Sydney still a chance of getting him?
Pretty sure he'll go to the Bombers, although there hasn't been an official announcement from what I have heard.
Gilly1972
11 Jun 2007, 19:13
Is it confirmed he'll go to the Bombers, or are Sydney still a chance of getting him?
I would think everybody is still a chance of getting him with the new bidding system.
Would like somebody to explain with some confidence how it works exactly...all we hear are vague mutterings and guesses.
bigcalls!!
11 Jun 2007, 19:13
when are the final squads notified? how many players will be taken to the nationals? 28-30?
bigcalls!!
11 Jun 2007, 19:16
anyone acknowledge any players from gippsland power? That Hyne looks a good prospect. Bristoe has hieght on his side. Mac kenna is doing the right things at the right times it seems? any thoughts?
Gilly1972
11 Jun 2007, 19:19
when are the final squads notified? how many players will be taken to the nationals? 28-30?
I think I heard that 15 get cut and informed tomorrow. I believe they are taking 30 to Perth, which will then get cut to a final 25 for the games in Victoria.
macca69
11 Jun 2007, 19:21
I would think everybody is still a chance of getting him with the new bidding system.
Would like somebody to explain with some confidence how it works exactly...all we hear are vague mutterings and guesses.
Does he have to nominate a club that can pick him father/son pre-draft?
Or can he go into the draft with both Sydney and Essendon a chance to pick him F/S?
macca69
11 Jun 2007, 19:23
I think I heard that 15 get cut and informed tomorrow. I believe they are taking 30 to Perth, which will then get cut to a final 25 for the games in Victoria.
Some blokes will be very stiff to miss out, as Metro have very good depth this year. There's always is a surprise or two about Metro selection though.
Some blokes will be very stiff to miss out, as Metro have very good depth this year. There's always is a surprise or two about Metro selection though.
Spot on Macca.
Would be very hard to cut the squad down from yesterdays trial games. Like you said, some of the guys are going to be very very unlucky to miss out.
bigcalls!!
11 Jun 2007, 19:29
and the fact is that some players miss out or even have poor carnivals and still get a chance in the afl system
Some blokes will be very stiff to miss out, as Metro have very good depth this year. There's always is a surprise or two about Metro selection though.
The Metro B team could win it this year. They are very deep.
I think Metro might have done what they have in the past and play the possibles first and then the probables second. The second game seemed to have more talent.
From the second game I think Trengrove, Croft, Joyce, Strauss and Totino might miss out. Prismall was bad but will probably still be picked.
From the first Lynch, Veszpremi, Cotchin and Potts should replace them. Add in Krezuer, Grimes, Polkinghorne and Farmer.
Lynch has probably been the stand-out performer across the first few games. Can play wing, midfield, CHF. Very versatile. I think Metro will use that edge in selection. Sandliands, Daniher, Arrowsmith, Otten, Lynch, Gaertner (and Croft if picked) can play almost anywhere. That is a coach's wet dream.
I also think Hurley's ability to play FF and FB should seem picked ahead of say Zomer or Dulic.
Metro's danger is getting too tall and not having enough blokes to combat an SA mosquito fleet.
B: Farmer, Hurley, Veszpremi
HB: P.Smith, Daniher, Otten
C: Arrowsmith, Grimes, Cotchin
HF: Lynch, Gaertner, Meredith
F: Maric, Krezuer, Simpson
R: Sullivan, DeBruin, Polkinghorne
I: Jones, Sandilands, Prismall, Joyce or Hoegel
E: Lobbe, Potts, Dulic or Zomer
For Country ...
I thought Jackson Hall did very well on Prismall. Connelly, Kane Smith, Healey, Austin and Normington did well. Thompson was also quite good but I don't know if it will be enough.
Thoolan did pretty well up forward. But Thoolen, Hobbs, Scott, Bristow, McKenna, McEvoy begins to look a bit tough to pick. Some good players are going to miss out - and they all might have if Henderson and Tarrant had been available.
I think McEvoy is best a kick behind play, and I have seen McKenna do well in defence. Scott and Hobbs have impressed me most in the key forward spots this season.
B: Dangerfield - Donaldson - McKenna
HB: Selwood - McEvoy - Cheney
C: Hockey - Austin - Hall
HF: Healey - Scott - Kay
F: Suban - Hobbs - Gaylor
R: Connelly - Normington - K.Smith
I: Lynch - Bristow - Curnow - Heyne
E: Thoolen - O'Keefe - Peters
I still think Blair Holmes is stiff to miss out. Suprised Sam Staveniuter wasn't involved in the trials as well - is much improved this season.
macca69
11 Jun 2007, 20:54
I think Metro might have done what they have in the past and play the possibles first and then the probables second. The second game seemed to have more talent.
Interesting you say that, as on paper I thought the first team listed looked slightly better, hopefully that's more to do with Metro's depth, as opposed to my knowledge of the players :p
Metro side looks good Weaver. I don't like Gaertner as a CHF, but others may disagree. Other than that, I like it :thumbsu:
Also with the country squad, no room for Simpson in the ruck? Was pretty good in the first game on Sunday.
bigcalls!!
11 Jun 2007, 20:58
For Country ...
I thought Jackson Hall did very well on Prismall. Connelly, Kane Smith, Healey, Austin and Normington did well. Thompson was also quite good but I don't know if it will be enough.
Thoolan did pretty well up forward. But Thoolen, Hobbs, Scott, Bristow, McKenna, McEvoy begins to look a bit tough to pick. Some good players are going to miss out - and they all might have if Henderson and Tarrant had been available.
I think McEvoy is best a kick behind play, and I have seen McKenna do well in defence. Scott and Hobbs have impressed me most in the key forward spots this season.
B: Dangerfield - Donaldson - McKenna
HB: Selwood - McEvoy - Cheney
C: Hockey - Austin - Hall
HF: Healey - Scott - Kay
F: Suban - Hobbs - Gaylor
R: Connelly - Normington - K.Smith
I: Lynch - Bristow - Curnow - Heyne
E: Thoolen - O'Keefe - Peters
I still think Blair Holmes is stiff to miss out. Suprised Sam Staveniuter wasn't involved in the trials as well - is much improved this season.
:thumbsu:
the country team is spot on buddy i have been impressed with your predictions... a good solid team with great depth off the bench.
[QUOTE=Weaver;7808597]For Country ...
I thought Jackson Hall did very well on Prismall. Connelly, Kane Smith, Healey, Austin and Normington did well.
B: Dangerfield - Donaldson - McKenna
HB: Selwood - McEvoy - Cheney
C: Hockey - Austin - Hall
HF: Healey - Scott - Kay
F: Suban - Hobbs - Gaylor
R: Connelly - Normington - K.Smith
I: Lynch - Bristow - Curnow - Heyne
E: Thoolen - O'Keefe - Peters
[/QUOTE}
Weaver, agree Normington was fantastic and also liked Michaelides but was certain little Rex Taylor played the majority of the time on Prismall as it was noted there was 21 cms difference between the two at the centre bounces. Did you not select Henderson in your side as you believe he may miss because my mail is that he was right to resume in this game but was told to take an additional week as he had nothing to prove by playing in this game. Mitch.
macca69
11 Jun 2007, 21:03
Did you not select Henderson in your side as you believe he may miss because my mail is that he was right to resume in this game but was told to take an additional week as he had nothing to prove by playing in this game.
Yeh, I've heard both Tarrant and Henderson are chances to play in the Carnival. Tarrant may be an outside chance, but they haven't ruled him out apparently.
blues2010
11 Jun 2007, 21:08
Yeh, I've heard both Tarrant and Henderson are chances to play in the Carnival. Tarrant may be an outside chance, but they haven't ruled him out apparently.
2 pretty big ins if your mail is right. Henderson at either end will give the Country boys something, saw him yesterday at the game and looked ok and was pretty cheery so might be ok. The stronger the camps the better, hope they both make it
can anyone tell me how jimmy saker went for vc, to old to play in the carnival but played on sunday, would he make the team if he was u/18?
SouthPHXBombers
11 Jun 2007, 21:57
For those who know a bit and follow the vic country kids... what are your thoughs on Kyle Cheney? And will he make the cut for the carnival?
I'd have Callan Ward in front of both Prismall and Sandilands at this stage Weaver. Has been very impressive, get quite a bit of the ball, and uses it nicely.
Interesting you say that, as on paper I thought the first team listed looked slightly better, hopefully that's more to do with Metro's depth, as opposed to my knowledge of the players :p
I think they may have sent the 'A' defence out in the first game to be put under the pump a bit. I can't belive that Sandilands, Croft and Trengrove are seen as starting defenders.
Metro side looks good Weaver. I don't like Gaertner as a CHF, but others may disagree. Other than that, I like it :thumbsu:
I know ... but you have to pick him. I suppose in the squad I suggested it would be pretty easy to swing Ottens to CHF, and Gertner on ball or wing. They could be a very flexible side depending on what the match committee do.
Also with the country squad, no room for Simpson in the ruck? Was pretty good in the first game on Sunday.
It would be tempting with SA going without a genuine tall. But I simply think Thoolen has had a very solid season and claimed some scalps. Also is more versatile - probably not as important with the changed format - but still.
I'd have Callan Ward in front of both Prismall and Sandilands at this stage Weaver. Has been very impressive, get quite a bit of the ball, and uses it nicely.
I'd have Prismall out of the squad myself - but I think he will hold on. Prismall can play forward and midfield. Ward seems more a sweeper across HB. I think Vezpremi has more ooomph, Farmer more poise and Smith plays taller. Ward would be unlucky to miss out for sure.
I think Sandilands gets in because of versatility. He has rucked for Oakleigh. Played forward, back and midfield in the trials. I think a coach likes a guy like that on the bench who can basically play every spot on the field in preference to Ward who is basically a HBF.
Metro generally like to have a bit of muscle in the squad, particularly midfield. That's why I think Jones makes it - but I can see Hill or Merdith included for those reasons. This Metro squad doesn't look quite as 'nuggety' as a typical Metro squad.
(Typical Country mosquito fleet though).
Yeh, I've heard both Tarrant and Henderson are chances to play in the Carnival. Tarrant may be an outside chance, but they haven't ruled him out apparently.
henderson will play, spoke to him and he is playing this week for geelong college, and tarrant should be right i rekon, spoke to him and he said 2 weeks he rekons, and they will keep him on for as long as they can until they know if he can play, he killed it in the last little intra scratch match they had a few weeks back.
Bulldogsnm1
12 Jun 2007, 08:57
[quote=Weaver;7811013]I'd have Prismall out of the squad myself - but I think he will hold on. Prismall can play forward and midfield. Ward seems more a sweeper across HB. I think Vezpremi has more ooomph, Farmer more poise and Smith plays taller. Ward would be unlucky to miss out for sure.
Ward has only played across the half back line this season, previously he has played all his football on-ball. It is a testimony to his skill that he has made playing the sweeper role look so easy.
He has been thrown forward in three games this year and has kicked goals every time, including the leveling goal against Bendigo last week.
Although he just scrapes in as lower age, he deserves to play.
grant ford would be very stiff if he doesn't play
TacupWatcher
12 Jun 2007, 10:39
B: Dangerfield - Donaldson - McKenna
HB: Selwood - McEvoy - Cheney
C: Hockey - Austin - Hall
HF: Healey - Scott - Kay
F: Suban - Hobbs - Gaylor
R: Connelly - Normington - K.Smith
I: Lynch - Bristow - Curnow - Heyne
E: Thoolen - O'Keefe - Peters
Didn't see the game but i heard from two people who did that Thoolen was disapointing and isnt suited to Backline at all so where would u play him?
Donaldson looked slugish and lacked his usual run off the backline but did enough to say he will probably hold his spot at full back going on the past not on sundays game, went foward and looked dangerous though.
My Mail is that Tarrant will be Available but will only have one game of footy if hes lucky under his belt in 2 months before the championships, realisticly do u think he'll still play?
Scott is an overage player and cant be selected for the championships.
McKenna will not line up in a pocket.
Bristow and Gaylor and Healy will be lucky to make it.
Ford stiff not to even get a mention in the emergensies.
I'd have Prismall out of the squad myself - but I think he will hold on.
In the few game that I have seen Prismall play this year, I just don't think he deserves to be there. Just looks lazy, and doesn't do the hard things. Why should someone like Ward, who works his arse off, miss out for someone like Prismall.
Bulldogsnm1
12 Jun 2007, 22:58
In the few game that I have seen Prismall play this year, I just don't think he deserves to be there. Just looks lazy, and doesn't do the hard things. Why should someone like Ward, who works his arse off, miss out for someone like Prismall.
I am a huge wrap for Ward and his form this year has been outstanding.
I must say though I do think Prismall can get a rough wrap. He can look very average at times during a game and yet when you check his stats he has accumulated 25 to 30 stats for a game. Hopefully he is also given another chance at the championships. He is top age so its his best chance of showing he can really play.
Whilst there is no doubting Prismalls talent, I still think he doesn't work hard enough out on the ground, and is lazy. It's just the little things. For Instance, during the trial game, he could have quite easily gone in and picked the ball up from the ground, and do something with it. However, he decided to kick it off the ground and subsequently turned it over.
Cheddar
12 Jun 2007, 23:33
Just like to know how 2 guys i know went for vic country, Clayton Hinkley and Torin Petire? Was it a suprise that petrie was selected for Vic Country?
In the few game that I have seen Prismall play this year, I just don't think he deserves to be there. Just looks lazy, and doesn't do the hard things. Why should someone like Ward, who works his arse off, miss out for someone like Prismall.
Why do you think for Ward to play, Prismall needs to be out? They seem to be under consideration for very different spots at the moment.
blues2010
13 Jun 2007, 08:58
Why do you think for Ward to play, Prismall needs to be out? They seem to be under consideration for very different spots at the moment.
I found out that from Dandenong Potts, Simpson, Gaertner and Grant got in the 30 does anyone know who else from other clubs?
WatchOut
13 Jun 2007, 09:22
I found out that from Dandenong Potts, Simpson, Gaertner and Grant got in the 30 does anyone know who else from other clubs?
3 cut from the Cannons - don't wish to name them.
Why do you think for Ward to play, Prismall needs to be out? They seem to be under consideration for very different spots at the moment.
Fair call that, but Metro's squad is pretty deep this year. I'm just saying that on from alone this year, Ward is miles ahead of Prismall.
I found out that from Dandenong Potts, Simpson, Gaertner and Grant got in the 30 does anyone know who else from other clubs?
Has recovered from his bout of leather poisoning he got on the weekend?
Rex Taylor made it from Bendigo.
ford_dealer
13 Jun 2007, 14:19
Prismall, Sullivan and Ward made the squad of 30
Vic Crow
13 Jun 2007, 15:39
Cotchin, Grimes, Hurley, Kreuzer, Meredith and Veszpremi were the Knights that made it.
3 cut from the Cannons - don't wish to name them.
If 3 got cut that means that 9 made the squad.
Why say that 3 got cut and then not name those players? What a waste of time!:thumbsd:
macca69
13 Jun 2007, 16:03
Anyone know which of the Oakleigh boys made it?
WatchOut
13 Jun 2007, 17:28
If 3 got cut that means that 9 made the squad.
Why say that 3 got cut and then not name those players? What a waste of time!:thumbsd:
Not a waste of time at all mate - I knew someone would bag me.
Don't you thinks these kids are hurting enough than to have their names bag in this website as well.
Not a waste of time at all mate - I knew someone would bag me.
Don't you thinks these kids are hurting enough than to have their names bag in this website as well.
still a bloody good effort to make it this far! theres a lot of kids out there who would kill even to make it into a cannons squad let alone be make it to the final cut of the vic metro team!
Vic Crow
13 Jun 2007, 18:05
Not a waste of time at all mate - I knew someone would bag me.
Don't you thinks these kids are hurting enough than to have their names bag in this website as well.
It's not like we're never going to find out who they are.
Prismall, Sullivan and Ward made the squad of 30
Very happy to hear that Ward made it.
Chandra
13 Jun 2007, 18:31
Don't you thinks these kids are hurting enough than to have their names bag in this website as well.
Lobbe & Jones from Eastern are in the 30. Interestingly, they had Todd Russell speak at training last night- I'm sure that gave perspective to those boys who had just been told they were out of Vic Metro.
Lobbe & Jones from Eastern are in the 30. Interestingly, they had Todd Russell speak at training last night- I'm sure that gave perspective to those boys who had just been told they were out of Vic Metro.
Noy would have to be pretty unlucky, as he didn't do too much wrong on Sunday. Would have to be a very big chance of being drafted later in the year.
brown_2000au
13 Jun 2007, 18:36
Lobbe & Jones from Eastern are in the 30. Interestingly, they had Todd Russell speak at training last night- I'm sure that gave perspective to those boys who had just been told they were out of Vic Metro.
Who is Jones, the Eastern players in the sqaud where Michael Dell Aquilla
Matthew Lobbe, Daniel Noy, Andrew Renton, Dale Walker and Trent Zomer
Not a waste of time at all mate - I knew someone would bag me.
Don't you thinks these kids are hurting enough than to have their names bag in this website as well.
Why say anything at all mate.
All you are doing is wasting my time with that post.
MATE:thumbsd:
no buffer
13 Jun 2007, 19:05
did hugh sandilands make it?
anybody know the vic country squad?
grant ford??????
For Country ...
I thought Jackson Hall did very well on Prismall. Connelly, Kane Smith, Healey, Austin and Normington did well. Thompson was also quite good but I don't know if it will be enough.
Thoolan did pretty well up forward. But Thoolen, Hobbs, Scott, Bristow, McKenna, McEvoy begins to look a bit tough to pick. Some good players are going to miss out - and they all might have if Henderson and Tarrant had been available.
I think McEvoy is best a kick behind play, and I have seen McKenna do well in defence. Scott and Hobbs have impressed me most in the key forward spots this season.
B: Dangerfield - Donaldson - McKenna
HB: Selwood - McEvoy - Cheney
C: Hockey - Austin - Hall
HF: Healey - Scott - Kay
F: Suban - Hobbs - Gaylor
R: Connelly - Normington - K.Smith
I: Lynch - Bristow - Curnow - Heyne
E: Thoolen - O'Keefe - Peters
I still think Blair Holmes is stiff to miss out. Suprised Sam Staveniuter wasn't involved in the trials as well - is much improved this season.
Was just wondering what peoples thoughts bout Simpson were? With the likes of Essendon, Carlton, Richmond and Collingwood having very thin ruck stocks and in prevous years young giants like Street, Warnock, Erickson and Bailey prepaps going a little higher than there ability showed at the time...
Gilly1972
13 Jun 2007, 19:55
Was just wondering what peoples thoughts bout Simpson were? With the likes of Essendon, Carlton, Richmond and Collingwood having very thin ruck stocks and in prevous years young giants like Street, Warnock, Erickson and Bailey prepaps going a little higher than there ability showed at the time...
IMO Simpson might surprise a few BF posters come draft time. His centre square tap work has been very good in the two trial games, with well directed taps given his midfielders first use of the ball. Around the ground there may be more mobile and effective ruckmen, but as you point out, I would think that 205cm giants who get their hands to the ball first and direct the taps well will be highly sought after.
IMO Simpson might surprise a few BF posters come draft time. His centre square tap work has been very good in the two trial games, with well directed taps given his midfielders first use of the ball. Around the ground there may be more mobile and effective ruckmen, but as you point out, I would think that 205cm giants who get their hands to the ball first and direct the taps well will be highly sought after.
scott simpson is one of the most mobile ruckman you will encounter, he is ready made for afl pushing on 6ft5 is a perfect CHF and foward ruckman. should go higher than expected
Sezzac1
13 Jun 2007, 21:46
scott simpson is one of the most mobile ruckman you will encounter, he is ready made for afl pushing on 6ft5 is a perfect CHF and foward ruckman. should go higher than expected
I may be mistake but I think Gilly was referring to Dawson Simpson at 205cm.
Mind you I agree about your assessment of Scott :D
Gilly1972
13 Jun 2007, 23:31
I may be mistake but I think Gilly was referring to Dawson Simpson at 205cm.
Mind you I agree about your assessment of Scott :D
Spot on Sez, I was referring to Dawson, although Scott does compete well in the forward line ruck contests.
Spot on Sez, I was referring to Dawson, although Scott does compete well in the forward line ruck contests.
And he's pretty mobile for someone who stands 205cm.
And he's pretty mobile for someone who stands 205cm.
I would be interested if anyone has Dawson Simpsons endurance times. I have watched him live twice this year and he blows up very easily. People sometimes forget that Cox and Sandilands are both exceptional runners for their size. Simpson's hit zones in the ruck are effective though. Interestingly I rate Brenton Sutherland from Calder to be the best tap ruckman I have seen this year. His ability to hit zones from either hand is very impressive. Unlike most basketballers he isnt afraid to make physical contact at the centre bounce as well.
macca69
14 Jun 2007, 10:49
I would be interested if anyone has Dawson Simpsons endurance times. I have watched him live twice this year and he blows up very easily. People sometimes forget that Cox and Sandilands are both exceptional runners for their size. Simpson's hit zones in the ruck are effective though. Interestingly I rate Brenton Sutherland from Calder to be the best tap ruckman I have seen this year. His ability to hit zones from either hand is very impressive. Unlike most basketballers he isnt afraid to make physical contact at the centre bounce as well.
True, but when drafted Cox, McIntosh, Sandilands and Warnock (probably others too I can't think of atm) all had poor endurance IIRC. Once they had done a few pre-seasons their fitness improved greatly.
Having said that, I agree Simpsons endurance looks pretty poor, but it's hard to know to what extent that can be improved.
Does anyone know if he made the country squad?
youngsaint
14 Jun 2007, 14:38
selwood and heyne both made it
OverRated
14 Jun 2007, 16:19
When are the final squads released? Are the games televised this year? Last year they might have been on foxfooty and now that it doesnt exist i dont know.
KING-JAMES
14 Jun 2007, 16:41
One of my good mates told me his cousin Will Sullivan made it
One of my good mates told me his cousin Will Sullivan made it
Sullivan is in and a good chance to be first ruck. Expect Kruezer to spend a significant amount of time at CHF.
Chandra
14 Jun 2007, 21:26
Simpson's hit zones in the ruck are effective though. Interestingly I rate Brenton Sutherland from Calder to be the best tap ruckman I have seen this year. His ability to hit zones from either hand is very impressive. Unlike most basketballers he isnt afraid to make physical contact at the centre bounce as well.
Against the Rebels, Bushies won the hit outs 61-18 and lost the clearances about 44-22. Is his direction that good- if it is they must have ordinary midfielders at the stoppages.
Chandra
14 Jun 2007, 21:27
Who is Jones, the Eastern players in the sqaud where Michael Dell Aquilla
Matthew Lobbe, Daniel Noy, Andrew Renton, Dale Walker and Trent Zomer
Brad Jones- been playing midfield, improving every week- 42 possessions against the Stingrays. From Doncaster Heights. Very very hard worker.
Brad Jones- been playing midfield, improving every week- 42 possessions against the Stingrays. From Doncaster Heights. Very very hard worker.
I was at that game, and I know he had the ball a fair bit, but 42 times. Are you sure?
Gilly1972
14 Jun 2007, 23:39
I was at that game, and I know he had the ball a fair bit, but 42 times. Are you sure?
Would have been close, had the ball on a string.
Would have been close, had the ball on a string.
True, but 42 times? :eek:
I would have thought Kris Nye would have been closer to 42 touches than Brad Jones.
Vic Crow
15 Jun 2007, 10:39
Just from looking at the stats of that game Jones had 42 touches but 16 were ineffective (incl. 13 IE kicks). Nye had 40 touches and only 8 of those were ineffective.
Jones was on the end of 21 handball receives!
P Smith, Dulic and Cattapan missed out from Calder. 9 in final 30