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bradrowe#32
10 Jun 2007, 16:27
2007 TRUenergy VFL Seniors (progressive score)
Williamstown 6.9 10.18 . .
North Ballarat 4.4 7.5 . .
2007 TRUenergy VFL Reserves
Williamstown 6.8 9.11 12.14 20.18 (138)
North Ballarat 2.1 4.4 8.7 8.11 (59)
GOALS:
Williamstown: Cook 4 Foley 3 Miller 2 Boyd 2 Long 2 Lyons Clark Cravino Dullard Beaumont Stretton Grossman
North Ballarat: Urch 3 Micallef 2 Morgan McHugh Limb
BEST:
Williamstown: Grossman Keddell Cook Miller Beaumont Boyd
North Ballarat: Drew Raworth Hartigan Sharkey Schultz Clifton
REPORTED PLAYERS:
Williamstown: Nil
North Ballarat: Nil
No Stanley I hear. Insurance policy for tomorrow I guess. Looks like he is next in line at the moment.
Optimax
10 Jun 2007, 16:52
My brother told me Lonie was killing it up until half time as was Licca, hope their form continues
Final Score
Williamstown - 133
Nth Ballarat - 93
bradrowe#32
10 Jun 2007, 18:04
No Stanley I hear. Insurance policy for tomorrow I guess. Looks like he is next in line at the moment.
The word is that Heater will miss.
jadyn39
10 Jun 2007, 18:06
Who got in the best?
Did dale thomas play
ROWDY26
10 Jun 2007, 18:13
2007 TRUenergy VFL Seniors
Williamstown 6.9 10.18 15.21 18.25 (133)
North Ballarat 4.4 7.5 10.11 13.15 (93)
GOALS:
Williamstown: Limbach 4 Rose 3 Dick 3 MacAffer 2 Clarke 2 Reid Wellingham Lonie Williams
North Ballarat: Gregg 4 Hughes 2 Riggio Whyman George Cartledge Roach Dinnell Goodes
BEST:
Williamstown: Iles McKenzie Rose Clarke Richards Picken
North Ballarat: Roach Grima Whyman Goodes George Hughes
REPORTED PLAYERS:
Williamstown: Nil
North Ballarat: Nil
*heath will play, Stanley will also,
jonesy86
10 Jun 2007, 18:19
the great man Marty Clarke kicking a couple and in the best is good news
magpies42
10 Jun 2007, 18:20
2007 TRUenergy VFL Seniors
Williamstown 6.9 10.18 15.21 18.25 (133)
North Ballarat 4.4 7.5 10.11 13.15 (93)
GOALS:
Williamstown: Limbach 4 Rose 3 Dick 3 MacAffer 2 Clarke 2 Reid Wellingham Lonie Williams
North Ballarat: Gregg 4 Hughes 2 Riggio Whyman George Cartledge Roach Dinnell Goodes
BEST:
Williamstown: Iles McKenzie Rose Clarke Richards Picken
North Ballarat: Roach Grima Whyman Goodes George Hughes
REPORTED PLAYERS:
Williamstown: Nil
North Ballarat: Nil
*heath will play, Stanley will also,
is north ballarat the unaffiliated side? i just want to know who stretch rucked against?
is north ballarat the unaffiliated side? i just want to know who stretch rucked against?
Affiliated with the kangaroos i think you will find.
ROWDY26
10 Jun 2007, 18:39
is north ballarat the unaffiliated side? i just want to know who stretch rucked against?
pretty sure they ar alligned with Kangaroos along with Tassie but i dont know who plays where though.
Thommo 42
10 Jun 2007, 18:40
couple of famous names in that Williamstown side!
Rose and Picken :D
Nth Ballarat are aligned with the Roos. There Ruckmen is Ex- Bomber Tristan Cartledge. He is probably the inform ruckmen in the VFL at the moment. He was best on ground last week in Nth Ballarats win over the Zebras and played for Victoria in the recent state game vs. WA.
Not a big Richards fan but sounds like he did well today. I will be looking forward to reading the match report.
Optimax
10 Jun 2007, 20:16
Nth Ballarat are aligned with the Roos. There Ruckmen is Ex- Bomber Tristan Cartledge. He is probably the inform ruckmen in the VFL at the moment. He was best on ground last week in Nth Ballarats win over the Zebras and played for Victoria in the recent state game vs. WA.
Not a big Richards fan but sounds like he did well today. I will be looking forward to reading the match report.
Cartledge is he any cahnce of being taken pre season, or for that matter any ruckman we can get ready made from the VFL?
Braved the cold sou-westerly wind to see a Collingwood heavy Williamstown defeat North Ballarat. The skewed scoring shot tally stil doesn't tell the story of how dominant Willi was. If only they cold convert more efficiently.
Wellingham: As per my accidental post (which was wrong), this kid dominated. As picked up by attendees last week, Wellingham is impressing as an inside midfielder. I originally had him pegged as an outside player with good finishing skills. Today, there were hints of Justin Sherman in the way he went about it. Loves the fight inside and streams out of contests at will. Strong overhead. Still raw and did the odd wrong thing, but he will be a very good AFL standard player. No doubt about it. That he is not in the official best is laughable! Clear BOG.
Irish: What's not to love about this kid? Is like the Duracel bunny, just keeps going and going. Will fight to the death for a positive result. Good hustle, good overhead and god footskills. Played defence all day and streamed forward for two goals.
Davies: Was everywhere and had a stack of it. Is just too weak at marking, ground and tackling contests, combined with crap kicking and ordinary decision making to make it at AFL. Sad but true.
Iles: Was particularly good today. Perhaps the best game I've seen him play at any level. Still manages to put in a sub-VFL standard stuff up about once a quarter though.
Richards: Was terrible at the ruck contests early, but improved as the game went on. Was good around the ground, although as per Iles & Davies, the complete groan worthy stuff ups have to be eliminated if they are to ever see AFL long term. Probably wont happen for the three of them though unfortunately.
Lica: Was typically Lica. His kicking is sub-par (even for him) at the minute. Still did pretty well at the contests and worked hard. Good hitout.
Lonie: Took me until the third quarter to see that it was Lones. I thought Willi had simply picked up a fairly athletic and tall midfielder, and gave him a peculiar number (#67). Kicked a goal and did ok, but will need heaps more time before he gets a recall & OP is not something you get over immediately anyway.
Reid: Was not disgraced, but did look a bit lost when playing as a leading forward. Was better when he played around the ground as a follower. A bit Josh-like in that respect. Played ruck for brief periods. Didn't win any hitouts, at the centre (bad bounces) but was very good at boundary throw ins. Still very raw, but was the youngest bloke on the ground.
Cox: Had some nice runs, but didn't have a whole lot to do. The ball was mostly going our way. Should be more committed to aerial contests, but his ground work and athletiuc pace (and some sublime handballs) make me think he shouldn't be wasted at this level. Better served playing with the big boys.
Brown: Does the odd dumb thing, but I am of the opinion that his errors are quite coachable. What you can't coach is his build and athleticism. Mistakes aside, he is generally pretty smart, especially when the play is live. Had some strong marks and spoils. I doubt he'll ever be a ball magnet. But he will be a player and he will (partly) fill the concerns raised last year about our key defensive holes. Those who are overly pessimistic have no need to be IMO.
Dick: Wasn't prolific, but was there abouts. The best thing about him is he is a goal machine. Sets up or kicks multiple goals per game off his own bat. 3 goals this arvo. Good pick up.
MacAffer: Did ok. Started off well with a strong mark and goal. Is a strong mark generally and not a shabby kick. Made some dumb errors though and it's hard to see the AFL level potential. Doesn't seem quick enough on the lead to not get eaten up by AFL defenders and didn't impress me acccross the middle. Still, not a bad performance on the day.
Cook: Doesn't have a single attribute that will ever see him rise to AFL level. Battler unfortunately.
Nicholls: Good VFL player.
navier-stokes equation
10 Jun 2007, 21:34
*heath will play, Stanley will also,
Just your opinion or the inside word?:cool:
magpies42
10 Jun 2007, 21:47
Interesting to hear that cook and nicholls wont make the cut, i would have thought they would be well up there? I believe mick has even hinted at cook getting his debut after stanners!
ROWDY26
10 Jun 2007, 21:55
Just your opinion or the inside word?:cool:
sneaking suspision;)
Optimax
10 Jun 2007, 22:00
sneaking suspision;)
I have no idea but i have the same feeling. think out toovey "injured" in stanners
Coin_Toss
10 Jun 2007, 22:07
Good work, FIGJAM. I couldn't make it to Burbank Oval, so I appreciate the time you (happily) gave up today.
Sharrod Wellingham has probably been our most consistent 'first-year' player at this point. He's a ball magnet and he uses it well. I'm not a betting man, but I would put my house on Sharrod getting promoted to the senior list at the end of the year.
Clarke's very impressive - give us something new! ;)
Barwick17
10 Jun 2007, 22:27
Just your opinion or the inside word?:cool:
Stanners will play but heater wont - hasnt come up
hilly69
10 Jun 2007, 22:45
trained very well on friday so i would be surpised if he doesnt play, holland is the one i wouldnt be surpised if he pulled out
navier-stokes equation
10 Jun 2007, 22:52
Stanners will play but heater wont - hasnt come up
Source?
Barwick17
10 Jun 2007, 22:53
Holland???? What has he done? Not aware of him
navier-stokes equation
10 Jun 2007, 22:57
Holland???? What has he done? Not aware of him
I think there was something on ch 10 news on Friday night saying he needed treatment during training
Barwick17
10 Jun 2007, 22:58
Source?
Mate works for pies and feeling is its very sore still. Could be wrong but me thinks not
buckstheking
10 Jun 2007, 23:30
Mate works for pies and feeling is its very sore still. Could be wrong but me thinks not
Shyte! I hope U R wrong,very wrong!
Tony Francis
12 Jun 2007, 17:58
Cook: Doesn't have a single attribute that will ever see him rise to AFL level. Battler unfortunately.
Great post Figgy, thanks for the review. I enjoyed your thoughts on Wellingham and Clarke especially.
However, you will regret saying that about Cook. The kid is 19 and smart, fast, hard (generally), has good skills, a big motor and good goal sense. All he lacks at the moment is the application, which I feel will come in time.
Barring some unforseen disciplinary type dismissal, I'm most confident he will be at the club and pushing for senior selection in 2008.
Cook: Doesn't have a single attribute that will ever see him rise to AFL level. Battler unfortunately.
Great post Figgy, thanks for the review. I enjoyed your thoughts on Wellingham and Clarke especially.
However, you will regret saying that about Cook. The kid is 19 and smart, fast, hard (generally), has good skills, a big motor and good goal sense. All he lacks at the moment is the application, which I feel will come in time.
Barring some unforseen disciplinary type dismissal, I'm most confident he will be at the club and pushing for senior selection in 2008.
I really want all of this to be true Tony. Truth be told, he's definitely got the heat on him to play some good consistent footy at Willi before delisting season comes around. I just think we're going to have some hard decisions to make in order to comply to list rules, and Cooky might be a victim of having a list that has no obvious duds on it.
We've got the certain amount of people that need to go anyway and then the possible rookie elevations. We need to make a decision on Nicholls as its his last year on the RL and then there's Wellingham and Clarke who have shown that they probably deserve to be on the senior list.
Cook: Doesn't have a single attribute that will ever see him rise to AFL level. Battler unfortunately.
Great post Figgy, thanks for the review. I enjoyed your thoughts on Wellingham and Clarke especially.
However, you will regret saying that about Cook. The kid is 19 and smart, fast, hard (generally), has good skills, a big motor and good goal sense. All he lacks at the moment is the application, which I feel will come in time.
Barring some unforseen disciplinary type dismissal, I'm most confident he will be at the club and pushing for senior selection in 2008.
I've never seen anything to suggest he will be AFL standard. Granted, he is very young.
Notwithstanding, I look for AFL potential in my reports. His balance and ability to not win any contests whatsoever is a major concern. Some will attribute this to lack of strength through age, but it didn't stop Wellingham winning the pill against full grown men.
He's neat and tidy on the link, but he is generally very poor at any kind of contest. But neat and tidy is not want we want from an outside player...we need fast and silky. I personally can't see the AFL talent, other than he is adept at sniffing out the odd goal.
Hope he proves me wrong, but I am not a fan at this stage.
Optimax
12 Jun 2007, 19:31
I've never seen anything to suggest he will be AFL standard. Granted, he is very young.
Notwithstanding, I look for AFL potential in my reports. His balance and ability to not win any contests whatsoever is a major concern. Some will attribute this to lack of strength through age, but it didn't stop Wellingham winning the pill against full grown men.
He's neat and tidy on the link, but he is generally very poor at any kind of contest. But neat and tidy is not want we want from an outside player...we need fast and silky. I personally can't see the AFL talent, other than he is adept at sniffing out the odd goal.
Hope he proves me wrong, but I am not a fan at this stage.
They cant all be good, we havent made too many mistakes the past couple of years.