To the grannies behind Bay 114

[Mr_Smooth]

i say rip all of bay 114's seats out and enforce a standing room only option!!! :thumbsu:

*pisstake

[Southerntakeover]

Why do you want to sit? What does it do exactly? Do you get more pumped up sitting or standing? Can you get to the bar quicker by sitting or standing? Can you be seen more by sitting or standing?

I'm not saying lets force people to stand but anyone who wants this Bay 114 thing to work, standing is the way to go.

I know you wont agree because you think you're always right but I think the majority would agree with me.

You've ignored the point AGAIN.

Its not feasible to have everyone standing. Do you want to limit the potential to the few people who can fit into the standing area at the back of bay 114?

Get a grasp of the actual debate before you get all high and mighty with the 'always think you're right' crap.

[Seanason]

Neither you or ICDM are addressing the full issue though.

Standing may be the preferred option, unfortunately its not a practical one for the whole operation, as we found out on sunday. I dont agree with the statement that you have to be standing to get into it, otherwise the whole exercise is pointless. We arent going to get 50 000 standing at a home game, its impossible. If you want to limit the range of this thing to standing only, you are setting a very very very very small potential for it.

This is a major point though.

In that perspective, 2 options are some of us sitting down or some moving across a bay in the standing area there.

But if we get more people from elsewhere - they may be inclined to sit down for most of the time.

Can i ask what the plan is when there are too many of us to stand in 1 spot?

[ICanDressMyself]

You've ignored the point AGAIN.

Its not feasible to have everyone standing. Do you want to limit the potential to the few people who can fit into the standing area at the back of bay 114?

Get a grasp of the actual debate before you get all high and mighty with the 'always think you're right' crap.

Well, answer me this, if we kept getting given tickets from the club, would you sit in your allocated seat, or stand in the standing area?

[Seanason]

Well, answer me this, if we kept getting given tickets from the club, would you sit in your allocated seat, or stand in the standing area?

Look the main point is that we dont have room.

ST has raised our main problem - one that we need to address.

What happens when we do get too big for the standing area behind our bay?

[Southerntakeover]

This is a major point though.

In that perspective, 2 options are some of us sitting down or some moving across a bay in the standing area there.

But if we get more people from elsewhere - they may be inclined to sit down for most of the time.

Can i ask what the plan is when there are too many of us to stand in 1 spot?


Yeah, that was partially the point i was trying to make. Im not a fan of spreading across too far across bays, because the noise would carry far better if it comes from a concentrated point in bay 13. In that scenario, it would imo become necessary to have some people sitting down in the seats. You could effectively double the amount of people you could have concentrated in the area just by using the seats to their potential. The point is, whilst im in no way suggesting that people should be forced to sit down, having people sit down wont hurt us either.

If we were in the position where we were given seats not at the back of the bay, id still want to do what we've been doing, as im sure we could still have a huge impact that way, ideal or not.

[ICanDressMyself]

Look the main point is that we dont have room.

ST has raised our main problem - one that we need to address.

What happens when we do get too big for the standing area behind our bay?

We'll cross that bridge when we come to it, I'd say we'd just have the most vocal people standing and the quieter ones sitting. I'm sure like ST, there'd be a lot who'd prefer to sit thru out the game.

[Dandy_GO]

Neither you or ICDM are addressing the full issue though.

Standing may be the preferred option, unfortunately its not a practical one for the whole operation, as we found out on sunday. I dont agree with the statement that you have to be standing to get into it, otherwise the whole exercise is pointless. We arent going to get 50 000 standing at a home game, its impossible. If you want to limit the range of this thing to standing only, you are setting a very very very very small potential for it.
Bang on. The LAST thing we need is complaints from the rest of crowd. Our whole AIM is to get the rest of the crowd on our side - and if standing jeopardizes that, then it's essentially counterproductive no matter how much louder it makes us. Nobody is going to join in with us if they think we're a bunch of rowdy drunks intent on ruining everybody elses experience. The club have given us seats. Nowhere did they say we had the right to stand up in them, especially if it blocks the views of those behind us.
I very much doubt that we'll ever get those old ladies chanting along with us, but we do NOT need them complaining to the red coats. How long before their complaints go from "they won't sit down" to "they're all drunk" or "they won't stop swearing" or "they're abusing us", and the club pull the plug? Annoying paying members is the fastest way to end this experiment. Yes, they're overreacting and epitomise everything we're trying to change, but we're never going to get anywhere if we alienate certain members of the crowd.

Fit as many people as we can in the standing room without breaking the rules, and then everybody else can use the seats we've been given. It's a non-issue as far as I'm concerned.

[Southerntakeover]

We'll cross that bridge when we come to it, I'd say we'd just have the most vocal people standing and the quieter ones sitting. I'm sure like ST, there'd be a lot who'd prefer to sit thru out the game.

Take it easy. I dont mind you deliberately missing the point, but if you start bagging the level i contribute at, you'll turn this into a whole something else.

[splat868]

Bang on. The LAST thing we need is complaints from the rest of crowd. Our whole AIM is to get the rest of the crowd on our side - and if standing jeopardizes that, then it's essentially counterproductive no matter how much louder it makes us. Nobody is going to join in with us if they think we're a bunch of rowdy drunks intent on ruining everybody elses experience. The club have given us seats. Nowhere did they say we had the right to stand up in them, especially if it blocks the views of those behind us.
I very much doubt that we'll ever get those old ladies chanting along with us, but we do NOT need them complaining to the red coats. How long before their complaints go from "they won't sit down" to "they're all drunk" or "they won't stop swearing" or "they're abusing us", and the club pull the plug? Annoying paying members is the fastest way to end this experiment. Yes, they're overreacting and epitomise everything we're trying to change, but we're never going to get anywhere if we alienate certain members of the crowd.

Fit as many people as we can in the standing room without breaking the rules, and then everybody else can use the seats we've been given. It's a non-issue as far as I'm concerned.




Thats exactly right,

the only way this can grown is with the support of the people around the group.

[Blue Red and Gold]

Dont worry ST, some of us understand your point.

We cannot alientate the people around us, we need them to embrace us or at the least tolerate us otherwise this thing is not going to work.

Baby steps people.

[Southerntakeover]

Dont worry ST, some of us understand your point.

We cannot alientate the people around us, we need them to embrace us or at the least tolerate us otherwise this thing is not going to work.

Baby steps people.

Im glad, felt like i was pushing a boulder up hill for a while there ;)

[raikkonen]

Some of the elder people there are unbelievable! if you are not there to chant or even clap after a goal what are you there for? You pay money for a social representation? To say you were there to all the people down at the bowls club? If it was cold would these same ladies be there? I think not. Rain hail or shine Im there, week in week out throwing support out for the boys. Not sitting there with my gloves on trying to keep warm which they can well and truly do infront of the porta-heater they have at home with their little lounge chairs. Watch footy there if you dont like what we are trying to do at AAMI.

As for the Geelong game, overall how successful would any of you rate it? This is my first chance to get back on BF since the game as I have been in Perth for the last 9 days, so I have no idea about the going-on and whatnot...I havent even seen the Kangaroos game because they had the Fremantle game on on Saturday night over there, and no Fox coverage until the next monring at 5-6am...:mad:

I was at the Sail and Anchor pub in Freo watching the Geelong game, and they had no sound on for us, even though there was a fair bunch of us there watching it intently....everyone else was going for Geelong though:(. The group I was with were running around Fremantle at 10.30 in the monring trying to find a pub with foxtel...and when we did...it didnt open until 11 when the game was about to start, and by the time the bartender worked out that asked him to turn on the footy for the Crows-Cats game and not the Freo-Richmond game which started 4.5 hours later!! What a dip shit!!! :rolleyes: Why would I be at a pub, waiting for it to open, like a pleb from Port Adelaide, if I wanted to watch a game starting much much later in the day??

Looking foward to Bay 114 mob getting together again for the WCE game in 2 weeks. I will be going doubly hard there because I missed the last home game, and havent seen our last game! First one ive missed since 99 :(