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campbell023
11 Jun 2007, 17:39
How frustrating were the umpries today? Countless times they would give away the softest free kicks not to mention the one to Robertson right in front of goal. It seems in the past few years we cannot play well against Melbourne and i cannot see why. They arn't that good.
Anyway a few positives from the game was our youngsters in the backline. Stanners played well i thought. Was moved onto Robbo, which was a big move and did ok. The other one was Goldsack. Attacked the footy. Spoiled well and carried the ball. Looks the good so far.
Disappointing efforts today but i give credit to Melbourne they out played us today.

ROWDY26
11 Jun 2007, 17:45
mate, stanners was not good, he wasnt our worst, but he had 5 goals kicked on him, lets not get to ahead of ourselves.

Ekulman
11 Jun 2007, 17:47
Toovey needs to go
Lonie in!

Spore
11 Jun 2007, 17:47
Stanley was screwed because he had to play on Robbo in his first game. We just didn't have the defensive players to win this game.

Good effort to come back from 6 goals down to almost hit the front, but some poor umpiring and some poor disposals stopped any chance we had.

Toovey shouldn't of played, we should of brought Cox in i reckon.
Wakes also showed that AFL has passed him by, been a great servant but his time is up.

bradrowe#32
11 Jun 2007, 17:48
Melbourne are in deep trouble if they can only beat us by a few goals. Rocca, Medhurst and a few others were useless and the umpires were just plain shit.

Can't wait to beat those pricks in round 20.

Magpie
11 Jun 2007, 17:50
In: Lonie, Lucuria
Out: Stanley, Tooves.

OOZAY
11 Jun 2007, 17:51
haha dont forget mate we were left with 2 on the bench for majority of the match with neitz and johnstone getting injured... thats to go with yze being a late withdrawal.

campbell023
11 Jun 2007, 17:51
mate, stanners was not good, he wasnt our worst, but he had 5 goals kicked on him, lets not get to ahead of ourselves.
Yes very true but first gamer playing on a bloody good forward? Was very tough on the kid. I agree with you on he wasn't our worst but he did do a couple of good things. He is one of the younger kids on our list, just needs some experience.

campbell023
11 Jun 2007, 17:53
haha dont forget mate we were left with 2 on the bench for majority of the match with neitz and johnstone getting injured... thats to go with yze being a late withdrawal.
And don't forget we had Presti and Harry out. They make a huge difference to our backline.

ROWDY26
11 Jun 2007, 17:53
harry really hurt!!
did anyone else think obree was quiet by his standards? he does cop tags most weeks believe it or not, who had him today?

ROWDY26
11 Jun 2007, 17:55
Yes very true but first gamer playing on a bloody good forward? Was very tough on the kid. I agree with you on he wasn't our worst but he did do a couple of good things. He is one of the younger kids on our list, just needs some experience.

i wasnt havn a dig at him, i just dont think it was a real positive, though he wasnt a negative, he has played on Robbo before and Stanners got bog.

Nesian
11 Jun 2007, 17:56
haha dont forget mate we were left with 2 on the bench for majority of the match with neitz and johnstone getting injured... thats to go with yze being a late withdrawal.

yep and we had our best 22 on the field and had no injuries what so ever...:rolleyes:

u did play well though esp the first qtr which basically killed us

bolz
11 Jun 2007, 18:00
haha! suck shit.

i guess you guys got whats coming to you. you know you're in trouble when you lose to a side like melbourne.

you guys dont even deserve to be in the top 8 IMO. come september, if you guys are still there you dont stand a chance. when will you realise that your team is shit? We wouldve beaten you if we hadnt gone to sleep in the 4th.

PS how much longer can you blame the umpires for your team's shit effort?

campbell023
11 Jun 2007, 18:05
haha! suck shit.

i guess you guys got whats coming to you. you know you're in trouble when you lose to a side like melbourne.

you guys dont even deserve to be in the top 8 IMO. come september, if you guys are still there you dont stand a chance. when will you realise that your team is shit? We wouldve beaten you if we hadnt gone to sleep in the 4th.

PS how much longer can you blame the umpires for your team's shit effort?
Lol coming from a carlton supporter? Your a tool.

Snoop Dog
11 Jun 2007, 18:07
We lost today because of a number of reasons (and in this order);

1 - Like many times this year we could not start with the right intensity

2 - MM was again outcoached by Neale Daniher. Why he had Stanley and Toovey on Robbo was a disgrace. He never once put Wakes, Maxy or goldsack there.

3 - MM refused to zone the kickouts instead giving them a free run on the huddle all day.

4 - The umps were disgraceful. Honestly worst I have seen in a long time. Will be interested what comes of it.

5 - Our young backs were just outgunned. Again, not sure coach gave them best chance.

6 - The fwds, namely Rocca and Medhurst were a joke. Did not have a go.

bradrowe#32
11 Jun 2007, 18:07
haha! suck shit.

i guess you guys got whats coming to you. you know you're in trouble when you lose to a side like melbourne.

you guys dont even deserve to be in the top 8 IMO. come september, if you guys are still there you dont stand a chance. when will you realise that your team is shit? We wouldve beaten you if we hadnt gone to sleep in the 4th.

PS how much longer can you blame the umpires for your team's shit effort?

Your a class act.

The start killed us today and we couldn't get back in front. We kept battling though, so that's a positive.

Harry's injury will hurt us. We really need Clement back next game.

bolz
11 Jun 2007, 18:09
Lol coming from a carlton supporter? Your a tool.
i suppose i am, supporting a team on the way up. may i remind u of 2001 when Brisbane were 2-7, won 16 straight and claimed the premiership. Carlton is in the middle of repeating that feat right now.

WATCH OUT!

bradrowe#32
11 Jun 2007, 18:09
We lost today because of a number of reasons (and in this order);

1 - Like many times this year we could not start with the right intensity

2 - MM was again outcoached by Neale Daniher. Why he had Stanley and Toovey on Robbo was a disgrace. He never once put Wakes, Maxy or goldsack there.

3 - MM refused to zone the kickouts instead giving them a free run on the huddle all day.

4 - The umps were disgraceful. Honestly worst I have seen in a long time. Will be interested what comes of it.

5 - Our young backs were just outgunned. Again, not sure coach gave them best chance.

6 - The fwds, namely Rocca and Medhurst were a joke. Did not have a go.

Agree with all of that. Wasn't Goldsack put on Robertson at the end? Doesn't matter though, the damage had already been done.

Rekindled Fan
11 Jun 2007, 18:20
Snoop Dog, you left off reason number 7
MM did not anticipate how hungry Melbourne were to win this game.
I honestly looked forward to winning this game and our comeback was quintessential Collingwood.
But I've been around long enough to know that the Pies can overstimate their opposition and we have an ugly fourth quater fade out.
We'll still make finals - I hope it's from skills and not relying on the other teams stuffing up.

campbell023
11 Jun 2007, 18:27
i suppose i am, supporting a team on the way up. may i remind u of 2001 when Brisbane were 2-7, won 16 straight and claimed the premiership. Carlton is in the middle of repeating that feat right now.

WATCH OUT!
So what are you trying to say? Carlton are going to win 16 in a row? Not this year mate.

Optimax
11 Jun 2007, 18:30
i suppose i am, supporting a team on the way up. may i remind u of 2001 when Brisbane were 2-7, won 16 straight and claimed the premiership. Carlton is in the middle of repeating that feat right now.

WATCH OUT!

you are ****en dreamer or what!!!!!!!!! there is no chance that will happen and i gaurn****entee it ****job

david_345
11 Jun 2007, 18:36
i suppose i am, supporting a team on the way up. Only because there isn't any further down you could go. Get some class and get into the eight before you try and start bagging our team.

Back on topic: We lost simply because we had an ineffectual forwardline. We kept turning the ball over inside the 40-50 metre zone. Rocca was held well and our crumbers were crowded.

In all honesty, apart from the odd contest, I think we won it everywhere else.

peppy la pew
11 Jun 2007, 18:36
What was wrong with Medhurst today guy's, I missed the game, working :thumbsu:

The Great Gabsby
11 Jun 2007, 18:41
I was really impressed with how your blokes fought back today, especially after losing O'brien so early. I know first hand how much losing a bloke early fcks up your team, but your boys kept battling on.

The umpires were terrible all round today, Rocca was clearly being held in some instances, and Mclean getting fifty for throwing the ball into a chair?!?!:confused: Not too mention the ludicrous hands in the back inconsistency.

Once you guys get your defense back you'll be right up there this year :thumbsu:

mm fan
11 Jun 2007, 18:42
AS my name says I'm a fan of MM but today he was wrong to not put maxwell onto robbo earlier. when netiz went off he was the only one who would hurt us and he did. Obree needs to go not just on today he is not our future either is Licca been great for the club but get the kids in. Take the pain now for future gain

doofdoof
11 Jun 2007, 18:45
I was really impressed with how your blokes fought back today, especially after losing O'brien so early. I know first hand how much losing a bloke early fcks up your team, but your boys kept battling on.

The umpires were terrible all round today, Rocca was clearly being held in some instances, and Mclean getting fifty for throwing the ball into a chair?!?!:confused: Not too mention the ludicrous hands in the back inconsistency.

Once you guys get your defense back you'll be right up there this year :thumbsu:

Agree entirely. Ta.

Dead Eye Didak
11 Jun 2007, 18:46
haha! suck shit.

i guess you guys got whats coming to you. you know you're in trouble when you lose to a side like melbourne.

you guys dont even deserve to be in the top 8 IMO. come september, if you guys are still there you dont stand a chance. when will you realise that your team is shit? We wouldve beaten you if we hadnt gone to sleep in the 4th.

PS how much longer can you blame the umpires for your team's shit effort?

P*** off u Carlton ****er, your side is flying, what is it 7 wins in two years, get ready for your usual 7 losses in a row.
And oh yeah, we did beat you with one hand tied behind our backs. Everytime we play Carlton it's nothing more than a training drill for us.

Nesian
11 Jun 2007, 18:57
quote=bolz;7806250]you guys dont even deserve to be in the top 8 IMO. [/quote]

sorry fail to follow ur logic...how do we not deserve to be there currently we have won a number of games, which is apparently the aim of the game, and find ourselves there...please come back when u have something at least intelligent to say (which would be rather surprising coming from a carlton supporter) bye!

lachystar
11 Jun 2007, 19:02
Basically, we lost today not because we had a poor under manned backline but because our forward line was like a trampoline and none of the forwards worked hard enough. Our Midfield got control of the game from quarter time and we couldn't put the score on the board. I do agree that Malthouse left Stanley on robertson too long but hey let's face it with the way the umpires were going we were always up against it. I have never felt so frustrated at the umpiring as I did today. Especially the no 19. He lost control of the game and was calling everything.

The good thing to realise as a Pie supporter is Jimmy and presti are back next game. If either of those played today, we would have probably got up in an ugly effirt as Clement would kill Robertson.

One player I would like to see dropped is Nick Maxwell. Never mans up and is always lead to the ball. If it wasn't for Harry going down, I would be sending Maxwell back to Willi.

Somebody
11 Jun 2007, 19:07
ONly heard it on the radio but sounds like MM had one of his bad ones. Why was Swan used only in defense - probably our form and most dangerous attacking midfielder. Maybe he is carrying something, that is the only excuse for wasting him as a defender. Maybe he was supposed to play Rhyce's role but it didn't work.
But it does sound like they matched us for pressure which has been one of our main strengths.

On the bench
11 Jun 2007, 19:57
Melbourne are in deep trouble if they can only beat us by a few goals. Rocca, Medhurst and a few others were useless and the umpires were just plain shit.

Can't wait to beat those pricks in round 20.

Just for your info fool out of the Melbourne side today was Rivers,Pickett,Moloney,Whelan,Bartram & the Collingwood serial pest Adem Yze,plus we only had Travis Johnstone for one quarter when he was tearing your lot apart,bring on round 20 it will be great to beat you two times in a year!

bradrowe#32
11 Jun 2007, 20:04
Just for your info fool out of the Melbourne side today was Rivers,Pickett,Moloney,Whelan,Bartram & the Collingwood serial pest Adem Yze,plus we only had Travis Johnstone for one quarter when he was tearing your lot apart,bring on round 20 it will be great to beat you two times in a year!

Wow.:rolleyes:

If you want to compare, we had Buckley, Clement, Presti, Licuria, Shaw, Rusling and Lonie.

I can't wait for round 20 either. By that time Melbourne will still be sitting near the bottom of the ladder. Will you still be interested then?

sloth6
11 Jun 2007, 20:07
We lost today because of a number of reasons (and in this order);

1 - Like many times this year we could not start with the right intensity

2 - MM was again outcoached by Neale Daniher. Why he had Stanley and Toovey on Robbo was a disgrace. He never once put Wakes, Maxy or goldsack there.

3 - MM refused to zone the kickouts instead giving them a free run on the huddle all day.

4 - The umps were disgraceful. Honestly worst I have seen in a long time. Will be interested what comes of it.

5 - Our young backs were just outgunned. Again, not sure coach gave them best chance.

6 - The fwds, namely Rocca and Medhurst were a joke. Did not have a go.

Pretty much spot on Snoop. Particularly the Melbourne kickouts, they hit someone in space (and by space, I mean f**king acres) every time. Here are a few more

1. Half Forwards being reactive instead of proactive

2. MM not assigning someone with a bit of leg speed to pick up Bate. It was blatantly obvious that he was the target proceding a kickout. Don't know how many times he outsprinted an opponent to have a uncontested mark. He killed us all day.

3. Inept midfielders who have no ticker (Scott Burns you forever will be excused)

4. Our inability to lock the ball in our forward fifty. When was the last time we created a stoppage inside our fifty or better yet, within 15 - 25m of goals.

5. Serious lack of leg speed up forward.

6. Forwards who are willing to have one effort and lay one tackle when the ball is in dispute, and then just watch as the opposition waltzes out of forward line with ease.

7. Shane O'Bree continuing to get a game

8. Ability to get numbers to the contest

Thommo 42
11 Jun 2007, 20:29
Stanley and Toovs were the only options on Robbo - the other blokes are too slow.

Toovs was beating Davey when he got moved to Robbo, but Stanners was getting a bit of a tocuh up.

In my opinion, not much either of them could do. Robbo is a quality player, was getting good blocks from his fellow forwards and getting silver service from his midfield.

Sometimes forwards are just unstoppable, anyone call for Clements head when Nathan Brown kicks 5 on him in a quarter? Stanners gave Robbo a touch up in the VFL when he wasn't gtting helpf from experienced forwards and perfect delivery from and elite midfield like Maclean, Bruce and Davey.

The Flash
11 Jun 2007, 20:38
Wow.:rolleyes:

If you want to compare, we had Buckley, Clement, Presti, Licuria, Shaw, Rusling and Lonie.

I can't wait for round 20 either. By that time Melbourne will still be sitting near the bottom of the ladder. Will you still be interested then?
So you think Buckley will have any effect if he does come back?
Surely Lonies not in your best 22 is he?
What has Rusling done to suggest hed be a huge worry for the opposition?
Rivers-our general in defence.
Whelan-our best small defender.
Bartram-our best tagger.
Yze-a dangerous crumbing forward.
Moloney-another hard bodied, long kicking midfielder.
Pickett-well not in our best 22, unless hes fit.

marcusesq
11 Jun 2007, 20:40
We'll still make finals - I hope it's from skills and not relying on the other teams stuffing up.

Yeah right. That and the very helpful draw you manage to get every year.

Thommo 42
11 Jun 2007, 20:47
Yeah we've only been to Subi, AAMI and the Gabba already with a trip to Sydney up next. Would you like us to play in China?

Melbourne clubs whinge mercilessly if they don't get us twice so they get a home game to fill their boots, but then whinge when we get games in Melbourne.

Well done Einstein, blame the other Melbourne clubs who beg to get a home game against us so they can cash up.

On the bench
11 Jun 2007, 20:53
Wow.:rolleyes:

If you want to compare, we had Buckley, Clement, Presti, Licuria, Shaw, Rusling and Lonie.

I can't wait for round 20 either. By that time Melbourne will still be sitting near the bottom of the ladder. Will you still be interested then?


With all due respect the only decent player out of that lot is James Clement with apologies to Nathan Buckley,he's finished,he can't even complete a training session flatout how is he even going to play one quarter of a game,trust me you have seen the best of Collingwood for 2007!

AsianWithAFro
11 Jun 2007, 21:29
Pretty much spot on Snoop. Particularly the Melbourne kickouts, they hit someone in space (and by space, I mean f**king acres) every time. Here are a few more

1. Half Forwards being reactive instead of proactive

2. MM not assigning someone with a bit of leg speed to pick up Bate. It was blatantly obvious that he was the target proceding a kickout. Don't know how many times he outsprinted an opponent to have a uncontested mark. He killed us all day.

3. Inept midfielders who have no ticker (Scott Burns you forever will be excused)

4. Our inability to lock the ball in our forward fifty. When was the last time we created a stoppage inside our fifty or better yet, within 15 - 25m of goals.

5. Serious lack of leg speed up forward.

6. Forwards who are willing to have one effort and lay one tackle when the ball is in dispute, and then just watch as the opposition waltzes out of forward line with ease.

7. Shane O'Bree continuing to get a game

8. Ability to get numbers to the contest

What do you hold against him? His may of had a bad game today but so far this season his been consistent.

sniper5
11 Jun 2007, 21:38
And don't forget we had Presti and Harry out. They make a huge difference to our backline.

Presti is useless mate plain useless he is not an excuse

Optimax
11 Jun 2007, 21:42
Presti is useless mate plain useless he is not an excuse

He has a good record on all forwards he plays on, is hardly beaten, doesnt rape opponents, ius our best stopper and doesnt look like a seventies frek like your full back. So yeah he is real useless:rolleyes:.

****en Tosser

sniper5
11 Jun 2007, 21:44
He has a good record on all forwards he plays on, is hardly beaten, doesnt rape opponents, ius our best stopper and doesnt look like a seventies frek like your full back. So yeah he is real useless:rolleyes:.

****en Tosser

Haha righto Buddy hes the biggest drop kick in the AFL everyone knows that...Howd did rocca go against the dees today again mate?

Optimax
11 Jun 2007, 21:46
Haha righto Buddy hes the biggest drop kick in the AFL everyone knows that...Howd did rocca go against the dees today again mate?

He got raped by a ****** wearing a melbourne jumper.

Why dont you go ask everyone in the AFL about Presti ive heard Jon Brown, Lloyd, and Hall say entirely differnt things about Presti than the crap you just spouted.

sniper5
11 Jun 2007, 21:48
by the sounds of it mate next person to rape him will be you

Optimax
11 Jun 2007, 21:52
by the sounds of it mate next person to rape him will be you

haha man you area comic genius. Man you should be writing jokes.

Enough sarcasm **** off you and all your friends already, my teams full forward got scragged all match and is now getting bagged out for a terribel day which it was but im still gonna defend him the same way i defend all my players.

Which brings me to my next point i reieterate PISS OFF already.

sniper5
11 Jun 2007, 21:54
haha man you area comic genius. Man you should be writing jokes.

Enough sarcasm **** off you and all your friends already, my teams full forward got scragged all match and is now getting bagged out for a terribel day which it was but im still gonna defend him the same way i defend all my players.

Which brings me to my next point i reieterate PISS OFF already.

Mate i aint a comic just stating the obvious

GO ROCCA aha

Dundalis
11 Jun 2007, 21:55
With all due respect the only decent player out of that lot is James Clement with apologies to Nathan Buckley,he's finished,he can't even complete a training session flatout how is he even going to play one quarter of a game,trust me you have seen the best of Collingwood for 2007!
Clement is easily the best defender in the comp along with Scarlett. Rhyce Shaw has been one of the best small running defenders going this season, and Licuria has been on of the best taggers in the business for a few years. Granted he was crap in the games he's played so far, but was obviously injured, has come back and was BOG in the seconds last week. Lonie adds the class by foot when he is on form, something we actually really need at the moment.
Haha righto Buddy hes the biggest drop kick in the AFL everyone knows that...Howd did rocca go against the dees today again mate?
You ****er. Presti is easily in the top 5 full backs in the comp. It is very rare any forward he plays on kicks a bag. That's all we need from him, he's a defender, he does that as well as anyone, we have attacking defenders who do that job.

Optimax
11 Jun 2007, 21:58
Mate i aint a comic just stating the obvious

GO ROCCA aha

Huh that last part makes no sense.

You couldnt pick up my sarcasm in that post, i actually said thats enough sarcasm, christ you are slow, i think you are as funny as a kid whos parents just died in a terrible accident, yes your jokes seem that bad.

sniper5
11 Jun 2007, 21:58
Clement is easily the best defender in the comp along with Scarlett. Rhyce Shaw has been one of the best small running defenders going this season, and Licuria has been on of the best taggers in the business for a few years. Granted he was crap in the games he's played so far, but was obviously injured, has come back and was BOG in the seconds last week. Lonie adds the class by foot when he is on form, something we actually really need at the moment.

You ****er. Presti is easily in the top 5 full backs in the comp. It is very rare any forward he plays on kicks a bag. That's all we need from him, he's a defender, he does that as well as anyone, we have attacking defenders who do that job.

Mate clements good but not one of the best!
rhys shaw hasnt proved himself yet just a dirty sheep dog
and Licuria is good but he aint a tagger is he? and if he is hes a shit one coz you never here of him shutting down players

sniper5
11 Jun 2007, 22:00
Huh that last part makes no sense.

You couldnt pick up my sarcasm in that post, i actually said thats enough sarcasm, christ you are slow, i think you are as funny as a kid whos parents just died in a terrible accident, yes your jokes seem that bad.


good stuff mate real good thing to say

Pies are fu cking shit mate you lose to melbourne ya soft and ya nothing and your forward line is based around anthony rocca hes a joke and he alwasy has been

come on why dont you start winging about the umpires like all your pathetic supporters do evrery time you pricks lose

Optimax
11 Jun 2007, 22:02
good stuff mate real good thing to say

Pies are fu cking shit mate you lose to melbourne ya soft and ya nothing and your forward line is based around anthony rocca hes a joke and he alwasy has been

come on why dont you start winging about the umpires like all your pathetic supporters do evrery time you pricks lose

You took offence did ya ive been called everything tonight and you took offence to that, oh well hopefully it ****ed you off at last.

sniper5
11 Jun 2007, 22:03
You took offence did ya ive been called everything tonight and you took offence to that, oh well hopefully it ****ed you off at last.

haha good on ya

Hadders
11 Jun 2007, 22:04
Please Vinnie or Jabso just lock this thread already.:mad:

Dundalis
11 Jun 2007, 22:06
Mate clements good but not one of the best!
rhys shaw hasnt proved himself yet just a dirty sheep dog
and Licuria is good but he aint a tagger is he? and if he is hes a shit one coz you never here of him shutting down players
You are right he is not one of the best. He is the best. No other defender can shut down both talls and smalls like he can, no other defender has been able to shut down James Hird like he has. Very few other defenders can do all those things and have such a fantastic kick and attacking game. There is no other defender in the league you would swap him for.

Don't really care whether Shaw has proven himself to everyone yet, he's proven to Collingwood fans that he is a very important part of our side. Licuria hasn't played much as a tagger lately, certainly not this year, but he provides that hardness in the middle for us when he's on form.

Jack_Nickolson08
11 Jun 2007, 22:06
With all due respect, Presti was once one of the best defenders in the league. Last 2 seasons or so havnt been his best. Still has small influence when he is in the side, but he is far from an influencial player for your side, imo.

You were raped by the umpires today, granted. I think they were inconsistent both ways, but your fowards just lost confidence early on and it cost them through stupid free kicks and hands in the backs. And yes, Robbo should have given away a free-kick, but the replay shows the umpire wasnt in position to see it (he was behind a collingwood player) and so payed the mark although Robbo's hands were on the back.

Don't worry, not all Melbourne supporters are ignorant fools. But seriously, everyone needs to stop bitching. You just lower yourselves down even more.

Dundalis
11 Jun 2007, 22:08
With all due respect, Presti was once one of the best defenders in the league. Last 2 seasons or so havnt been his best. Still has small influence when he is in the side, but he is far from an influencial player for your side, imo.

You were raped by the umpires today, granted. I think they were inconsistent both ways, but your fowards just lost confidence early on and it cost them through stupid free kicks and hands in the backs. And yes, Robbo should have given away a free-kick, but the replay shows the umpire wasnt in position to see it (he was behind a collingwood player) and so payed the mark although Robbo's hands were on the back.

Don't worry, not all Melbourne supporters are ignorant fools. But seriously, everyone needs to stop bitching. You just lower yourselves down even more.
Last two seasons he has had a lot of injuries. He has however still managed to shut down the best tall forwards in the game which to me means he is still one of the best full backs in the league.

Marklar_33
11 Jun 2007, 22:18
haha dont forget mate we were left with 2 on the bench for majority of the match with neitz and johnstone getting injured... thats to go with yze being a late withdrawal.

its not a late withdrawal when it happens 3 weeks in a row. Maybe they should start being more honest to the punters...

Neitz missed 30 mins at most, Harry missed more

__DaVE
11 Jun 2007, 23:04
With all due respect, Presti was once one of the best defenders in the league. Last 2 seasons or so havnt been his best. Still has small influence when he is in the side, but he is far from an influencial player for your side, imo.

You were raped by the umpires today, granted. I think they were inconsistent both ways, but your fowards just lost confidence early on and it cost them through stupid free kicks and hands in the backs. And yes, Robbo should have given away a free-kick, but the replay shows the umpire wasnt in position to see it (he was behind a collingwood player) and so payed the mark although Robbo's hands were on the back.

Don't worry, not all Melbourne supporters are ignorant fools. But seriously, everyone needs to stop bitching. You just lower yourselves down even more.


you're right, but sniper5 is

The Royal Sampler
11 Jun 2007, 23:21
So you think Buckley will have any effect if he does come back?
Surely Lonies not in your best 22 is he?
What has Rusling done to suggest hed be a huge worry for the opposition?
Rivers-our general in defence.
Whelan-our best small defender.
Bartram-our best tagger.
Yze-a dangerous crumbing forward.
Moloney-another hard bodied, long kicking midfielder.
Pickett-well not in our best 22, unless hes fit.
You're an idiot. You say Buckley is useless because he's injured, then list a bunch of injured players for your team.

Your entire post is a waste of electrons.