View Full Version : Bulldogs team to take on Freo
Lightening McQueen
12 Jun 2007, 13:31
Backs McMahon Harris Morris
Half Backs Gilbee Williams Hargrave
Centreline Eagleton West Akermanis
Half Forwards Giansiracusa Johnson Cooney
Forwards Murphy Darcy Higgins
Followers Street Hanh Boyd
Interchange Addison Wight Harbrow Ray
This is my team to take on Freo.
Keen to see your opinions on how Freo will line up against the dogs. I would think Wight and McMahon will come into the side to replace Cross and Griffin. Both big losses for the Dogs and there running game.
Harris V Pav will be a high light and Harris has been in career best form at the moment.
Johno has had a up and down season but still will require your best stopper.
The two Giants of the AFL in the Ruck will be worth a few laughs
Thanks Lightening
pistol17
12 Jun 2007, 13:54
Backs McMahon Harris Morris
Fowards Headland Pavlich Bell
Half Backs Gilbee Williams Hargrave
Half Forwards Mundy Tarrant Solomon
Centreline Eagleton West Akermanis
Centreline Black M. Carr Peake
Half Forwards Giansiracusa Johnson Cooney
Half Backs McPharlin Grover Dodd
Forwards Murphy Darcy Higgins
Backs Thornton Johnson Hayden
Followers Street Hanh Boyd
Followers Sandilands Hasleby J. Carr
Interchange Addison Wight Harbrow Ray
Interchange Crowley, Warnock, McManus, Ibbotson
In: Crowley
Out: Walker
Don't be all that surprised if Murphy misses as well.
McMahon will be in for Griffen that one is a no brainer, a lot of people are talking about Faulkner and maybe Lynch (rookie) to come into the side as well.
Shaymuhz
13 Jun 2007, 05:52
i think crowley is the man for gilbee. tight and is also worth a few goals when played u forward. thornton could possibly do the job but is maybe too tall.
just an idea out of left field, maybe cc could tell headland to man up tightly on gilbee seeing as though he is likely to be tagged anyway. that way freo has the same result but gilbee is forced to show his opponent respect and it limits his run. headland is the perfect size and pace to take him on, the only query would be whether he has the ability to play a stopping role of his own and whether or not eade would allow that to happen.
Lightening McQueen
13 Jun 2007, 10:32
i think crowley is the man for gilbee. tight and is also worth a few goals when played u forward. thornton could possibly do the job but is maybe too tall.
just an idea out of left field, maybe cc could tell headland to man up tightly on gilbee seeing as though he is likely to be tagged anyway. that way freo has the same result but gilbee is forced to show his opponent respect and it limits his run. headland is the perfect size and pace to take him on, the only query would be whether he has the ability to play a stopping role of his own and whether or not eade would allow that to happen.
Gilbee will most likely take Headland in the back pocket. Morriss will go with Tarrant and Harris with Pavlova.
Boyd will tag Ding Dong Bell. Bell has been in great form and should be good to watch.
Who will tag West??
Shaymuhz
13 Jun 2007, 13:05
Gilbee will most likely take Headland in the back pocket. Morriss will go with Tarrant and Harris with Pavlova.
Boyd will tag Ding Dong Bell. Bell has been in great form and should be good to watch.
Who will tag West??
my guess would be josh carr would get first crack..
SPEEDWAGON
13 Jun 2007, 13:08
matt carr to west
I would like to see Dodd or McPharlin on Brad Johnson, however i think Connolly with go with Groper.
A vintage Shane Parker would have been just the man for Brad Johnson.
McPharlin to take Darcy.
malpaso
13 Jun 2007, 14:10
Big forward line against the Doggies (Pygmies)
McPharlin or Johnson will drift forward methinks.
pistol17
13 Jun 2007, 15:42
I dont like to send our backs forward to often but maybe there is a case for it this week. I think our forward line is potent enough without sending the backmen down there and distrupting the gameplay of Tarrant and Pavlich who stay out of each others space, they work well together.
M. Carr would get the job on West, he has down a pretty good job this here apart from his disposal. He may be on the slow side but West isnt that quick.
Grover to go to Brad Johnson, can match him in the air and at ground level. Also has the strength to go with Johnno.
Id like to see Ibbotson play. His debut was pretty good considering he didnt get a lot of game time. Had 7 possessions (no mistakes), kicked a goal. Maybe he could go down onto Gilbee to stop his playmaking in defence.
Harris on Pavlich is a given, should be a great contest.
Cross and Griffen and possibly Murphy are massive losses for the dogs, hopefully they will cover them(not sure who with).
I cant see either side bringing in talls this week. The games I have been to in Darwin have always been wet and humid. Guys who are good below their knees will be invaluable.
I reckon it will be within a couple of kicks for the whole night... Hopefully freo in front at the end
Lightening McQueen
13 Jun 2007, 15:52
I wouldn't have thought it earlier in the week but there is a suggestion which has become more than likely that Cross will be replaced by Lynch who is from the top end. Eade may be encouraged by the form of Harbrow who looks to be a player. Both Harbrow and Lynch played in the NAB cup. As you are saying the humid conditions are draining and running players will be of premium importance.
Thornton will get Johnson, and Crowley will get West IMO.
Big forward line against the Doggies (Pygmies)
McPharlin or Johnson will drift forward methinks.
Johnson might, but McPharlin should have a field day at full back. Might allow him to play more of an attacking role, perhaps taking a few marks back there. It's been one thing that we've been lacking in defence this year.
pistol17
13 Jun 2007, 18:12
Thornton will get Johnson, and Crowley will get West IMO.
IMO Johnson will beat Thornton in the air, ground level would be ok. I think Grover would be the best option for Johnson.
Crowley is an attacking player, id like to see Matt Carr given the job of stopping West.
IMO Johnson will beat Thornton in the air, ground level would be ok. I think Grover would be the best option for Johnson.
Do you mean man on man, rather than in the air? Cause if you do I would probably agree, but I don't think Johnson would beat Thornton in the air with Thornton's extra reach. Grover would do the job man on man, but I think Jonno would be too clever for him in all other areas.
dominguez
13 Jun 2007, 20:39
I expect Thornton to get Brad Johnson. Should do well but will need support.
Matt Carr, who was beaten by Deledio on the weekend, is in for a tough game against Scott West.
Richmond kicked the first goal in all four quarters on Sunday. If that happens in Darwin we'll lose.
dockshark
13 Jun 2007, 20:59
just a thought. a lot has been made of this humidity thing but i have been to darwin many times and nightime in june is really not all that humid, certainly not to the point that i would expect it to have a large influence on professional athelete
I expect Thornton to get Brad Johnson. Should do well but will need support.
Matt Carr, who was beaten by Deledio on the weekend, is in for a tough game against Scott West.
Richmond kicked the first goal in all four quarters on Sunday. If that happens in Darwin we'll lose.
Grover on Johnson and Carr on West would be ideal matchups.
We will win this one easily, Taz and Pav will cut them to pieces. The Doggies are a bit of a disappointment as expected them to be better and they have been rolled quite easily a few times. They lack a bit when the opposition team has the speed to run with them as they are very suspect under real pressure. Another percentage builder for us.
Grover on Johnson and Carr on West would be ideal matchups.
We will win this one easily, Taz and Pav will cut them to pieces. The Doggies are a bit of a disappointment as expected them to be better and they have been rolled quite easily a few times. They lack a bit when the opposition team has the speed to run with them as they are very suspect under real pressure. Another percentage builder for us.
You guys wont cut us to pieces, you have a crap record against us and we have a far better midfield which will suit darwin. Tarrant has never been a problem match up wise for us in the past and harris is in superb form. You guys have a very good team but are suspect to a team with a lot of pace and to say you guys are quick is a load of crap (bell M carr hasleby j carr sandilands) is the slowest midfield in the comp
Dangermen for this game:
Sandilands, if he gives your midfielders first use then your lack of pace and larger bodies will win the clearences, he is also far more mobile than street
Headland, any player with the ability to kick 5 goals in a quarter is a threat and if he goes head to head with gilbee it could be the matchup that decides the game
Dogs by 20 points
dominguez
14 Jun 2007, 01:26
We will win this one easily, Taz and Pav will cut them to pieces. The Doggies are a bit of a disappointment as expected them to be better and they have been rolled quite easily a few times. They lack a bit when the opposition team has the speed to run with them as they are very suspect under real pressure. Another percentage builder for us.
What do you mean ANOTHER percentage builder? When did we do that previously this year?
pistol17
14 Jun 2007, 02:24
just a thought. a lot has been made of this humidity thing but i have been to darwin many times and nightime in june is really not all that humid, certainly not to the point that i would expect it to have a large influence on professional athelete
When you have lived in Darwin you can comment not just "visited"... It is humid all year round... it will have an influence on the performance of some players that is a given...
Did you ask yourself why we get the week off after playing in Darwin??
Tony_Clifton
14 Jun 2007, 02:41
I reckon if you visit a place you feel the humidity a lot more, so dockshark has a point. If you live there you adjust to it and might understate it if anything. I lived in Kununurra (a short hop to Darwin) for a while and the first week there was the worst. My face was sweating and I wasn't even exercising. Thats humid!
pistol17
14 Jun 2007, 02:48
I reckon if you visit a place you feel the humidity a lot more, so dockshark has a point. If you live there you adjust to it and might understate it if anything. I lived in Kununurra (a short hop to Darwin) for a while and the first week there was the worst. My face was sweating and I wasn't even exercising. Thats humid!
If dockshark did visit he would understand it is humid in Darwin. We are visiting so obviously us being there in the "first week" will have an affect on our performance.
Tony_Clifton
14 Jun 2007, 02:56
I am not saying that it will be or won't be humid in Darwin. My point is your logic for shooting down Dockshark was aggresive and wrong.
pistol17
14 Jun 2007, 12:10
I am not saying that it will be or won't be humid in Darwin. My point is your logic for shooting down Dockshark was aggresive and wrong.
Dockshark made the statement that is wasnt really humid and the conditions wont affect the players. Dockshark said that he had only visited a few times. How would he know what the conditions are like? I have been to Brisbane three times, 2 of those times in rained for almost a week, does that mean I can claim the sun doesnt come out so it wont affect the players.
My point is unless you have lived in Darwin you wont know what the conditions will be like. I lived in Darwin for 3 years, when I first got off the plane I almost died when the humidity hit me(this was at the end of may). The players will be feeling the affects as soon as they get off the plane, it is a different climate.
Benno From Berwick
14 Jun 2007, 13:57
Johnson might, but McPharlin should have a field day at full back. Might allow him to play more of an attacking role, perhaps taking a few marks back there. It's been one thing that we've been lacking in defence this year.
i hope he attempts to out mark Darcy....
pistol17
14 Jun 2007, 14:01
i hope he attempts to out mark Darcy....
I hope he does too... :D
Darcy isnt in the best form at the moment, talk of him being dropped
You guys wont cut us to pieces, you have a crap record against us
Actually, our record against the Dogs isn't bad. Up until last year, we'd won the last 5 or 6 matches. All time it's pretty even, about 10-9 or something like that.
and we have a far better midfield which will suit darwin.
That's something i'm not sure about. It's the dry season up there at the moment, there hasn't been any rain for at least a week and it's forecast fine. You certainly have a better midfield, but our ends are both superior. It wouldn't surprise me if we brought in an extra tall.
Tarrant has never been a problem match up wise for us in the past and harris is in superb form.
Might be true, but you've also got Pavlich to match up on this time. That's why Tarrant is getting so much of the ball now.
You guys have a very good team but are suspect to a team with a lot of pace and to say you guys are quick is a load of crap (bell M carr hasleby j carr sandilands) is the slowest midfield in the comp
Can't argue too much with that. But one thing we do have is half decent stoppers. If we can neutralise your midfield then we win, because you won't kick nearly enough goals.
Dangermen for this game:
Sandilands, if he gives your midfielders first use then your lack of pace and larger bodies will win the clearences, he is also far more mobile than street
Headland, any player with the ability to kick 5 goals in a quarter is a threat and if he goes head to head with gilbee it could be the matchup that decides the game
Maybe. But you guys aren't a completely crap side, so Headland won't have much impact. ;)
The game will be won or lost in the middle. You simply have to win that battle, probably convincingly. If we can break even out of the centre, we'll probably win.
Benno From Berwick
14 Jun 2007, 14:57
I hope he does too... :D
Darcy isnt in the best form at the moment, talk of him being dropped
I would be surprised. He played better in Brisbane. So I think he is heading in the right direction. I did hear that they were not all that happy with his return. i guess that is to be expected but in saying that that doesn't mean it will be tolerated.
Darcy does need attention if he is standing in the goal square.
pistol17
14 Jun 2007, 15:08
I would be surprised. He played better in Brisbane. So I think he is heading in the right direction. I did hear that they were not all that happy with his return. i guess that is to be expected but in saying that that doesn't mean it will be tolerated.
Darcy does need attention if he is standing in the goal square.
Darcy will get attention but McPharlin is a pretty good mark himself. Wont be an easy day for Darcy.
Benno From Berwick
14 Jun 2007, 15:35
Darcy will get attention but McPharlin is a pretty good mark himself. Wont be an easy day for Darcy.
My comment was in respect to the remark that McPharlin can dominate and attack....which he can certainly try to do but Darcy does demand some respect. That is all I was trying to point out. McPharlin good player.
pistol17
14 Jun 2007, 15:39
My comment was in respect to the remark that McPharlin can dominate and attack....which he can certainly try to do but Darcy does demand some respect. That is all I was trying to point out. McPharlin good player.
I read it wrong, sorry mate.
dockshark
14 Jun 2007, 20:01
Dockshark made the statement that is wasnt really humid and the conditions wont affect the players. Dockshark said that he had only visited a few times. How would he know what the conditions are like? I have been to Brisbane three times, 2 of those times in rained for almost a week, does that mean I can claim the sun doesnt come out so it wont affect the players.
My point is unless you have lived in Darwin you wont know what the conditions will be like. I lived in Darwin for 3 years, when I first got off the plane I almost died when the humidity hit me(this was at the end of may). The players will be feeling the affects as soon as they get off the plane, it is a different climate.
Actually i said many times, and that includes a stint of 18 months and regular 2 week visits since then(approx 6-7 times a year). Not sure if this qualifies me as an expert witness or not though!! If you are going to quote me make it accurate and it isn't a good idea to assume things. Right now it is 24 degrees 46% humidity in Darwin and 19 degrees 48% humidity in Perth according to the Bureu of meteorology( not that dramatically different) Also i didn't say it wouldn't have any affect on the players was just pointing out that i don't believe it will be the massive deal that some media commentators (and rodney eade have been making out) all i was doing was trying to allay the fears of some people a bit, very sorry that you don't approve.
pistol17
15 Jun 2007, 01:45
just a thought. a lot has been made of this humidity thing but i have been to darwin many times and nightime in june is really not all that humid, certainly not to the point that i would expect it to have a large influence on professional athelete
Actually i said many times, and that includes a stint of 18 months and regular 2 week visits since then(approx 6-7 times a year). Not sure if this qualifies me as an expert witness or not though!! If you are going to quote me make it accurate and it isn't a good idea to assume things. Right now it is 24 degrees 46% humidity in Darwin and 19 degrees 48% humidity in Perth according to the Bureu of meteorology( not that dramatically different) Also i didn't say it wouldn't have any affect on the players was just pointing out that i don't believe it will be the massive deal that some media commentators (and rodney eade have been making out) all i was doing was trying to allay the fears of some people a bit, very sorry that you don't approve.
You have 2 posts on this thread dockshark. The first one states and i quote "i have been to darwin many times ". Then in your second post you say "Actually i said many times, and that includes a stint of 18 months and regular 2 week visits since then(approx 6-7 times a year)."
Maybe if you had of mentioned how long you were actually in Darwin for in the first post i wouldnt have assumed you have just visited for say a week or so at a time. My posts were accurate with what you had posted.
You have the weather info in the second post, you would know although very similar readings in actual fact the two are quite different. Darwin is more tropical and as such is a different heat to Perth which is not tropical. It is dry season up there however we both know it still does rain in the dry season and if it does look like rain you can expect the humidity reading to jump up and it will affect the plaers.
I think you need to look at what you have posted before trying to catch me out on mis-quoting you. Especially when you say you said it several times when you have 2 posts.
estibador
15 Jun 2007, 02:06
Especially when you say you said it several times when you have 2 posts.
I think docshark meant he has been to Darwin many times not that he has said it many times.
Tony_Clifton
15 Jun 2007, 02:20
I think you need to look at what you have posted before trying to catch me out on mis-quoting you. Especially when you say you said it several times when you have 2 posts.
If you weren't so aggresive in the first place you wouldn't have looked like a goose. Now your trying to blame Dockshark for you looking stupid. You're doing a fine job of it all by yourself.
dockshark
15 Jun 2007, 09:07
I think docshark meant he has been to Darwin many times not that he has said it many times.
yes, sorry if that was unclear
Benno From Berwick
15 Jun 2007, 11:11
If you weren't so aggresive in the first place you wouldn't have looked like a goose. Now your trying to blame Dockshark for you looking stupid. You're doing a fine job of it all by yourself.
Are you named after who I think you are named after?
Andy was a very funny man, the whole Tony Clifton thing was just GOLD!
I am off to catch a cab. Talk later!
pistol17
15 Jun 2007, 11:54
I think docshark meant he has been to Darwin many times not that he has said it many times.
If you weren't so aggresive in the first place you wouldn't have looked like a goose. Now your trying to blame Dockshark for you looking stupid. You're doing a fine job of it all by yourself.
I wasnt aggressive i was arguing the point of the humidity at this time of year and that it would still effect the players performance. If Dockshark lived there he would know what the conditions could be like, i say could because even though it is dry season it still may rain. The weather forecasts dont mean alot up there, could be bright sunshine but would still manage to dump some water.
TC - Last time i checked i was arguing with Dockshark, im sure if he needed backup he would have asked for it.
yes, sorry if that was unclear
Your about as clear as the hands in the back rule...
estibador
15 Jun 2007, 13:48
yes, sorry if that was unclear
Don't worry, it seemed clear enough to me.
dockshark
15 Jun 2007, 15:12
TC - Last time i checked i was arguing with Dockshark, im sure if he needed backup he would have asked for it.
Your about as clear as the hands in the back rule...
This isn't an arguement, not on my part anyway and since you seem to not read my posts properlly if anything you are only really arguing with yourself. Anyway i'm pretty bored with this....lets all agree to hope that it is not too humid and that the boys aren't too affected and we can come away with a a win.....that's all i really care about
pistol17
16 Jun 2007, 00:22
This isn't an arguement, not on my part anyway and since you seem to not read my posts properlly if anything you are only really arguing with yourself. Anyway i'm pretty bored with this....lets all agree to hope that it is not too humid and that the boys aren't too affected and we can come away with a a win.....that's all i really care about
Yea fair enough... ill agree to disagree with you... we are both supporting freo after all...