crow87
12 Jun 2007, 15:45
Heres our players:
Injuries
Johncock - Corked Thigh - Test
Ricciuto - Concussion - Test
Stevens - Concussion - Test
Goodwin - Knee - 1 to 6 weeks - awaiting scan results
Perrie - shoulder - 4 weeks at least - (Round 14)
Reilly - ankle - 2 weeks - (Round 12 or 13)
Burton - Knee operation - 4 weeks - (Round 14)
McIntyre - Ankle - 4 weeks
MacKay - Hammy - another week - (Round 11)
Bode – Knee - 3 months
Tippett - Shoulder - season
Biglands - knee - season
Hentschel - knee - season
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Archard ®
Bassett
Bock
Campbell
Doughty
Douglas
Edwards
Hinge
Gallman ®
Gill
Griffin
Hudson
Jericho
Knights
Maric
Massie
Mattner
McGregor
McLeod
Meesen
Pfeiffer
Porplyzia
Rutten
Sellar
Shirley
Thompson
Torney
Turner ®
van Berlo
Vince
Welsh
Thanks to Mad Dog for the player list from the “Winged Crows” thread, who do you reckon is our best player? Second best? Third best? And so on. Its difficult to rank players and its obviously very subjective and if a player is outside the best 22 does not mean they dont deserve a game. Rookies are ignored and I’ve also omitted long term injury candidates Biglands, Hentschel and Bode. Heres my list:
1. Goodwin-Great ball winner and use of the ball is fantastic.
2. Rutten-Key full back and critical to our success
3. Thompson-Has developed and matured into a very important player for us, discipline has improved ten-fold also.
4. Riccuito-Would be higher up but for limited games of late and has struggled when he’s been back, still gave us a lift in the middle when he went in there on Sunday. He's not finished yet.
5. McLeod-Stellar year this year, obviously. His run off half back is team boosting.
6. Johncock-as per McLeod in some ways but younger, like to see him up forward more, even on the ball sometimes if he can hack it fitness wise.
7. Edwards-Up and down a bit this year but for me this guy is great
8. Burton-fantastic athlete, when he’s fit he can be equal parts amazing/tear your hair out.
9. Basset-Proof that sticking with the lesser likes pays off, remember when he was useless, granted Rutten has made his life easier but Bass is a great player now for us. Can be a little loose but that’s the chance you take when you play like him, I for one like it.
10. Reilly-Hard done by to be this far down perhaps, highly skilful but like some others he needs to get in more and win the hard ball.
11. Hudson-very important player for us, and as our last remaining solid ruckman if he goes down with an injury its all over folks
12. Knights-Sorry but he’s ahead of van Berlo for me, great link up player, ball magnet and now that he’s polished up his disposal hes our best youngster IMO. How did I not pick him in my Dream Team?!!!
13. VB-as for knights but not quite as polished, also needs to get in a little bit more but that’s my only criticism of him. Will play over 200 games for the afc.
14. McGregor-Some may be relieved/surprised that I don’t have Kenny at number one (I thought about it ;)). Seriously though, he’s a great contested mark-finally we have a target up forward, he can kick straight and holds the ball inside our forward 50 and can bring the ball to ground in a contest to the advantage of a crumbing forward (potentially, we don’t have one at the moment). Proved on the weekend he deserves a spot in the team easily and is not limited to one role, I could squeeze him into the top 10 I reckon but I don’t want to get a reputation for liking certain players…
15. Shirley-Another one who could be higher but as far as influence goes he’s not ranked as highly as some of the above for me. Without him though we would be a worse team, wins great contested ball and the likes of Goody, Thompson, Reilly etc benefit from his hard and tough work.
16. Bock-Should be much higher but this year he is having a bit of a shocker and although this isn’t based on this year alone, I couldn’t bring myself to put him ahead of the above players because of it.
17. Porplyzia- I’m surprised I’ve ranked him so lowly (but at least he gets the #16 spot ;)) because I really like him, fantastic intensity, great skills, can kick both sides and never misses a set shot, a permanent fixture in our forward line IMO.
18. Mattner-Great tackler and used to run and carry the ball and break lines but has been figured out, block his left side and he’s trapped. Please play him on the wing/get a right foot, preferably both. Has lost a lot of his influence on the game and some would argue his spots in danger, but I think a change would be better than a holiday for Marty.
19. Massie-Unlucky not to be getting a game behind the likes of Jericho, and his SANFL form is fantastic from what I hear.
20. Griffin-Still a long way to go but promises a lot.
21. Douglas-I like him but limited games pushes him down the list here.
22. Doughty-I don’t reckon he does the hard things, links up well with a handball setting up run in space but never really hurts the opposition. Probably harsh to put him 20th but I don’t really rate him.
23. Perrie-Lynch me, shoot me, do whatever but he’s not in our best 22 players. The fact that he’s 23rd however is because I think he does deserve a spot in the team for the sake of structure and the role he fills so even though he’s outside top 22, I’d have him in. On the downside, he is not as versatile as a 24. Stevens, kicking is obviously the let down factor too and misses hurt the momentum of the team.
24. Stevens-Good on his day but too up and down, soft too, sort of ranks 23rd with Perrie as he prob deserves a spot and can fill numerous roles.
After this it starts to trail off into players that aren’t really worth rating on their afl experience, some promise and potential but that’s not what this thread is about. Hmm, perhaps I have put Griff ahead of some players I shouldnt have but its gonna happen.
Oh and last place goes to Jericho, “the human marshmallow”. However he does have some ability and if we really need to play him he looks alright on the wing playing unaccountable football due to his athleticism and he can kick a long goal but in a final he wouldn’t be worth 2 cents at the moment.
Please feel free to make your own list, I’m not 100% sure on my list and will probably change it around as discussion unfolds and promotes though or reminds me of players I’ve missed! Cheers.
Injuries
Johncock - Corked Thigh - Test
Ricciuto - Concussion - Test
Stevens - Concussion - Test
Goodwin - Knee - 1 to 6 weeks - awaiting scan results
Perrie - shoulder - 4 weeks at least - (Round 14)
Reilly - ankle - 2 weeks - (Round 12 or 13)
Burton - Knee operation - 4 weeks - (Round 14)
McIntyre - Ankle - 4 weeks
MacKay - Hammy - another week - (Round 11)
Bode – Knee - 3 months
Tippett - Shoulder - season
Biglands - knee - season
Hentschel - knee - season
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Archard ®
Bassett
Bock
Campbell
Doughty
Douglas
Edwards
Hinge
Gallman ®
Gill
Griffin
Hudson
Jericho
Knights
Maric
Massie
Mattner
McGregor
McLeod
Meesen
Pfeiffer
Porplyzia
Rutten
Sellar
Shirley
Thompson
Torney
Turner ®
van Berlo
Vince
Welsh
Thanks to Mad Dog for the player list from the “Winged Crows” thread, who do you reckon is our best player? Second best? Third best? And so on. Its difficult to rank players and its obviously very subjective and if a player is outside the best 22 does not mean they dont deserve a game. Rookies are ignored and I’ve also omitted long term injury candidates Biglands, Hentschel and Bode. Heres my list:
1. Goodwin-Great ball winner and use of the ball is fantastic.
2. Rutten-Key full back and critical to our success
3. Thompson-Has developed and matured into a very important player for us, discipline has improved ten-fold also.
4. Riccuito-Would be higher up but for limited games of late and has struggled when he’s been back, still gave us a lift in the middle when he went in there on Sunday. He's not finished yet.
5. McLeod-Stellar year this year, obviously. His run off half back is team boosting.
6. Johncock-as per McLeod in some ways but younger, like to see him up forward more, even on the ball sometimes if he can hack it fitness wise.
7. Edwards-Up and down a bit this year but for me this guy is great
8. Burton-fantastic athlete, when he’s fit he can be equal parts amazing/tear your hair out.
9. Basset-Proof that sticking with the lesser likes pays off, remember when he was useless, granted Rutten has made his life easier but Bass is a great player now for us. Can be a little loose but that’s the chance you take when you play like him, I for one like it.
10. Reilly-Hard done by to be this far down perhaps, highly skilful but like some others he needs to get in more and win the hard ball.
11. Hudson-very important player for us, and as our last remaining solid ruckman if he goes down with an injury its all over folks
12. Knights-Sorry but he’s ahead of van Berlo for me, great link up player, ball magnet and now that he’s polished up his disposal hes our best youngster IMO. How did I not pick him in my Dream Team?!!!
13. VB-as for knights but not quite as polished, also needs to get in a little bit more but that’s my only criticism of him. Will play over 200 games for the afc.
14. McGregor-Some may be relieved/surprised that I don’t have Kenny at number one (I thought about it ;)). Seriously though, he’s a great contested mark-finally we have a target up forward, he can kick straight and holds the ball inside our forward 50 and can bring the ball to ground in a contest to the advantage of a crumbing forward (potentially, we don’t have one at the moment). Proved on the weekend he deserves a spot in the team easily and is not limited to one role, I could squeeze him into the top 10 I reckon but I don’t want to get a reputation for liking certain players…
15. Shirley-Another one who could be higher but as far as influence goes he’s not ranked as highly as some of the above for me. Without him though we would be a worse team, wins great contested ball and the likes of Goody, Thompson, Reilly etc benefit from his hard and tough work.
16. Bock-Should be much higher but this year he is having a bit of a shocker and although this isn’t based on this year alone, I couldn’t bring myself to put him ahead of the above players because of it.
17. Porplyzia- I’m surprised I’ve ranked him so lowly (but at least he gets the #16 spot ;)) because I really like him, fantastic intensity, great skills, can kick both sides and never misses a set shot, a permanent fixture in our forward line IMO.
18. Mattner-Great tackler and used to run and carry the ball and break lines but has been figured out, block his left side and he’s trapped. Please play him on the wing/get a right foot, preferably both. Has lost a lot of his influence on the game and some would argue his spots in danger, but I think a change would be better than a holiday for Marty.
19. Massie-Unlucky not to be getting a game behind the likes of Jericho, and his SANFL form is fantastic from what I hear.
20. Griffin-Still a long way to go but promises a lot.
21. Douglas-I like him but limited games pushes him down the list here.
22. Doughty-I don’t reckon he does the hard things, links up well with a handball setting up run in space but never really hurts the opposition. Probably harsh to put him 20th but I don’t really rate him.
23. Perrie-Lynch me, shoot me, do whatever but he’s not in our best 22 players. The fact that he’s 23rd however is because I think he does deserve a spot in the team for the sake of structure and the role he fills so even though he’s outside top 22, I’d have him in. On the downside, he is not as versatile as a 24. Stevens, kicking is obviously the let down factor too and misses hurt the momentum of the team.
24. Stevens-Good on his day but too up and down, soft too, sort of ranks 23rd with Perrie as he prob deserves a spot and can fill numerous roles.
After this it starts to trail off into players that aren’t really worth rating on their afl experience, some promise and potential but that’s not what this thread is about. Hmm, perhaps I have put Griff ahead of some players I shouldnt have but its gonna happen.
Oh and last place goes to Jericho, “the human marshmallow”. However he does have some ability and if we really need to play him he looks alright on the wing playing unaccountable football due to his athleticism and he can kick a long goal but in a final he wouldn’t be worth 2 cents at the moment.
Please feel free to make your own list, I’m not 100% sure on my list and will probably change it around as discussion unfolds and promotes though or reminds me of players I’ve missed! Cheers.