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Ford Fairlane
14 Jun 2007, 18:06
Thomson, Boak, Bentley and Lower in the squad, Krakouer out.
http://portadelaidefc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6038/Default.aspx?newsId=45062
The Power 25, from which 22 will face Essendon on Saturday night, is as follows...
B: Michael Wilson, Darryl Wakelin, Toby Thurstans
HB: Brad Symes, Chad Cornes, Jacob Surjan
C: Dom Cassisi, Shaun Burgoyne, Steven Salopek
HF: Peter Burgoyne, Warren Tredrea, Danyle Pearce
F: Brett Ebert, Damon White, Justin Westhoff
Foll: Brendon Lade, Kane Cornes, David Rodan
Interchange from: Greg Bentley, Travis Boak, Dean Brogan, Robert Gray, Nick Lower, Michael Pettigrew, Adam Thomson
IN: Bentley, Boak, Lower, Thomson
OUT: Krakouer (omitted)
Rafa Benitez
14 Jun 2007, 18:11
I would include Boak, Brogan, Thomson and Gray in the 22. I dont think Pettigrew should be dropped however and surely if there isnt a spot for him in defence there is one for him in attack....We could do with 1 accurate kick for goal.
Thomson wont be included, i want him in, but there are obviously areas of his game that the coaching staff feel need improving.
High Ryder
14 Jun 2007, 18:11
Krakouer seems to be in one week out the next, whats going on with him?
Ford Fairlane
14 Jun 2007, 18:22
Krakouer seems to be in one week out the next, whats going on with him?
Shin splints have been mentioned. If that's the case, a few weeks off might be the go (he can still do weights work and add some more muscle).
russellthemullet
14 Jun 2007, 18:36
Thomson, Boak, Bentley and Lower in the squad, Krakouer out.
http://portadelaidefc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6038/Default.aspx?newsId=45062
The Power 25, from which 22 will face Essendon on Saturday night, is as follows...
B: Michael Wilson, Darryl Wakelin, Toby Thurstans
HB: Brad Symes, Chad Cornes, Jacob Surjan
C: Dom Cassisi, Shaun Burgoyne, Steven Salopek
HF: Peter Burgoyne, Warren Tredrea, Danyle Pearce
F: Brett Ebert, Damon White, Justin Westhoff
Foll: Brendon Lade, Kane Cornes, David Rodan
Interchange from: Greg Bentley, Travis Boak, Dean Brogan, Robert Gray, Nick Lower, Michael Pettigrew, Adam Thomson
IN: Bentley, Boak, Lower, Thomson
OUT: Krakouer (omitted)
Swap Wilbur and K Cornes also like to see Pettigrew on Doms wing.
finbarr
14 Jun 2007, 18:43
Thomson, Boak, Bentley and Lower in the squad, Krakouer out.
http://portadelaidefc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6038/Default.aspx?newsId=45062
The Power 25, from which 22 will face Essendon on Saturday night, is as follows...
B: Michael Wilson, Darryl Wakelin, Toby Thurstans
HB: Brad Symes, Chad Cornes, Jacob Surjan
C: Dom Cassisi, Shaun Burgoyne, Steven Salopek
HF: Peter Burgoyne, Warren Tredrea, Danyle Pearce
F: Brett Ebert, Damon White, Justin Westhoff
Foll: Brendon Lade, Kane Cornes, David Rodan
Interchange from: Greg Bentley, Travis Boak, Dean Brogan, Robert Gray, Nick Lower, Michael Pettigrew, Adam Thomson
IN: Bentley, Boak, Lower, Thomson
OUT: Krakouer (omitted)
I'd love to see pretty much everyone listed as 'Interchange' in the 22. And why is Peter Burgoyne even playing? He looks about 60% fit at the moment.
Would also like to see Sal starting at the centre bounce.
russellthemullet
14 Jun 2007, 18:46
Thomson, Boak, Bentley and Lower in the squad, Krakouer out.
http://portadelaidefc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6038/Default.aspx?newsId=45062
The Power 25, from which 22 will face Essendon on Saturday night, is as follows...
B: Michael Wilson, Darryl Wakelin, Toby Thurstans
HB: Brad Symes, Chad Cornes, Jacob Surjan
C: Dom Cassisi, Shaun Burgoyne, Steven Salopek
HF: Peter Burgoyne, Warren Tredrea, Danyle Pearce
F: Brett Ebert, Damon White, Justin Westhoff
Foll: Brendon Lade, Kane Cornes, David Rodan
Interchange from: Greg Bentley, Travis Boak, Dean Brogan, Robert Gray, Nick Lower, Michael Pettigrew, Adam Thomson
IN: Bentley, Boak, Lower, Thomson
OUT: Krakouer (omitted)
I'd love to see pretty much everyone listed as 'Interchange' in the 22. And why is Peter Burgoyne even playing? He looks about 60% fit at the moment.
Would also like to see Sal starting at the centre bounce.
P.Burg looks a cert to tear a quad or hammy very soon.
dyertribe
14 Jun 2007, 18:52
P.Burg looks a cert to tear a quad or hammy very soon.
I know I've mentioned this a few times now, but it is so obvious he can only run in straight lines - whenever an opponent sidesteps him or goes past him he's stuck like a train easing into the station.
It serves absolutely no purpose to have him in the side at 40-50% of his powers - and as you say, with each passing week he looks that much closer to tearing a muscle and spending 4-6 weeks on the shelf.
Alberton_Magpie
14 Jun 2007, 18:56
Id like to see Nick Lower get a game
dyertribe
14 Jun 2007, 19:00
Would also like to see Sal starting at the centre bounce.
Sal is Francou v2.0 but with cleaner skills and a greater engine. It's no secret now, but his extraction and evasive ability in traffic is ludicrously good. Top shelf, in fact.
Cannot understand why he is marooned on a wing while those currently in the engine room are getting smashed week-in week-out.
The basis of a return to the formula which provided the matchwinning midfield of 2001-04 is there, it just needs games under its belt and in certain cases, a rocket.
Thomilf = Roger James.
Sal = Josh Francou.
Junior* = Peter Burgoyne.
?????? = Josh Carr.
Wilbur = Damien Hardwick pinchhitting nigglemerchant role.
* - Provided the real Shaun decides to turn up.
Redline
14 Jun 2007, 19:30
Id like to see Nick Lower get a game
:thumbsu:
Porthos
14 Jun 2007, 19:31
Go for Boak!
Go for Boak!
Not that it means much, but according to a post on TPFP, Channel 10 reported on the news that Boak was a cert. :thumbsu:
How would channel 10 know, you may ask? NFI :thumbsd:
PJ Power
14 Jun 2007, 19:40
It's interesting that we are still taking an extra tall into our matches with both White and Tredrea struggling for much input.
I would have liked to see Boak and Thomson come in for this game to address our biggest problem area (the midfield).
I reckon Bentley will get the nod based on his versatility.
Russian
14 Jun 2007, 19:49
Considering Tredrea was always going to play I'm pretty happy with those changes.
Gray, Brogan, Lower, Thomson is my bench.
Ford Fairlane
14 Jun 2007, 20:15
Bickley was pushing the line fairly strongly that Boak was going to debut. Seemed to think Thomson was likely to play as well. David Hutton played a straight bat to the speculation tho.
Rain forecast for Sunday might see a tall (the Grew) drop out for Thommo, with Boak in for Krak.
No surprise that despite Mark's bluster in the post-match presser, all the senior players get a pass.
Look at the poll on PAFC website, maybe the club is trying to tell us something ;)
Sandola
14 Jun 2007, 21:20
I think that's been there for weeks, Rory. Every few days I vote -- for a different player each time.
reCOGnise
14 Jun 2007, 21:47
i'd say lower hopefully will get a game!! please please give him a game!
he needs it, specially after his brothers effort for the roos last week i think he will be pumped!!
and thompson in for me too
Bickley was pushing the line fairly strongly that Boak was going to debut. Seemed to think Thomson was likely to play as well. David Hutton played a straight bat to the speculation tho.
Rain forecast for Sunday might see a tall (the Grew) drop out for Thommo, with Boak in for Krak.
No surprise that despite Mark's bluster in the post-match presser, all the senior players get a pass.
I hope not. I know his form has been sketchy recently and we have been 1 tall too many but not him....he is the future, shaft The Tobster b4 the Grew.....
Ford Fairlane
14 Jun 2007, 21:53
I hope not. I know his form has been sketchy recently and we have been 1 tall too many but not him....he is the future, shaft The Tobster b4 the Grew.....
The emergencies have to come from the named interchange. The starting 18 are safe.
The emergencies have to come from the named interchange. The starting 18 are safe.
Nooooooooooooooo - I am gonna go and sulk.
Bloody Choco and his stupid gameplan, WTF is he doing!:D
Russian
14 Jun 2007, 22:30
SANFL Teams:
Boak, Bentley and Thomson named
Gray, Brogan and Pettigrew not
Norwood have the bye
Maybe that tells us something, maybe it doesn't
Krakouer not named either but Logan returns
I hope not. I know his form has been sketchy recently and we have been 1 tall too many but not him....he is the future, shaft The Tobster b4 the Grew.....
Yeah given the choice much rather Pettigrew in the side than Thurstans.
reCOGnise
15 Jun 2007, 16:00
Grrr not lower :(
explaination please???
i think he deserves a go!! good on him
PJ Power
15 Jun 2007, 16:59
Radio news bulletins have been reporting that JB is in doubt having pulled out of this am's session with "soreness".
Troy Wingate
15 Jun 2007, 17:10
Radio news bulletins have been reporting that JB is in doubt having pulled out of this am's session with "soreness".
Yeah he left the training session about 15minutes into it and now reappeared.
explaination please???
i think he deserves a go!! good on him
Ok first up, i'll admit i haven't seen much of him..but from what i saw:
He's one of those players, like Logan imo. Goes in hard, but has a small body so doesn't do much damage, tries his heart out... but has no other strings to his bow.
Isn't overly quick, strong, skilled or anything. imo in football these days you need to have more than just 'hard at the ball'. Unless you are big and can throw your body around effectively.
Ford Fairlane
15 Jun 2007, 17:47
Lower's 189cm and 87kg (that's 6cm taller and 9kg heavier than Logan) so he's a decent size. And he has a bit of 'mongrel' about his play.
He's only in his second year on the list and is learning a new role taking on bigger opposition key forwards which he's adapting to.
There's an interesting article in The Australian discussing the rise of this more medium sized defender to take on bigger key forwards.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21907072-5012432,00.html
Firrito wins new battle hands down
Malcolm Conn
June 15, 2007
THE Kangaroos' Michael Firrito believes the new and controversial hands-in-the-back rule may be part of the reason why the AFL is developing a new breed of smaller, quicker key defender.
With less physical contact between power forwards and their opponents for fear of sometimes frivolous infringements, height and strength can be sacrificed for the speed necessary to match and beat leading forwards.
"It is interesting. I don't know whether it's just a coincidence or maybe the new rule," Firrito said yesterday before flying to the Gold Coast for tomorrow night's match against Adelaide at Carrara.
"It does seem the trend that you can play a little bit smaller and still get away with it. Even though I'm giving away height, I don't feel as though it's any disadvantage really.
"Players are still getting smarter. Everyone will adapt to it (the new rule) eventually."
The Firrito experiment has been mirrored by Campbell Brown at Hawthorn, Harry O'Brien at Collingwood, who injured a shoulder in last Monday's match against Melbourne, and St Kilda's James Gwilt.
etc ...
Forzaport
15 Jun 2007, 18:02
Boak will debut
http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6038/Default.aspx?newsId=45105
Troy Wingate
15 Jun 2007, 18:02
Travis Boak will make his debut!
Mitch Power
15 Jun 2007, 18:18
Yeah given the choice much rather Pettigrew in the side than Thurstans.
I would rather Thurstans in the side than White
Lower's 189cm and 87kg (that's 6cm taller and 9kg heavier than Logan) so he's a decent size. And he has a bit of 'mongrel' about his play.
He's only in his second year on the list and is learning a new role taking on bigger opposition key forwards which he's adapting to.
There's an interesting article in The Australian discussing the rise of this more medium sized defender to take on bigger key forwards.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21907072-5012432,00.html
Wow, i never realised he was 189cm..
Black 18
15 Jun 2007, 19:31
I would rather Thurstans in the side than White
I second that Mitch :thumbsu:
Wow, i never realised he was 189cm..I'm with you still deeps.
Each time I have seen Lower at AFL level he has not looked ready. He doesn't get enough of the ball or provide enough run for a small defender. He loses the ball in the flight and loses touch on his man far too often to be a deep defender and he isn't strong enough to play on key position players.
He needs more time and I would bring in a raft of players before him.
Porthos
15 Jun 2007, 19:47
Lower seems to get the Nathan Bassett treatment of almost always matching up on a bigger opponent, so its not a big surprise that he's struggled to impress.
reCOGnise
15 Jun 2007, 20:02
give the guy a break, hes only played a handful of games and has been doing well in SANFL
Drummond
15 Jun 2007, 20:09
give the guy a break, hes only played a handful of games and has been doing well in SANFL
Why, who on here has been getting stuck in? Everything that has been said has been spot on, and this is coming from someone who sees him play every week.
I believe he's still too light to regularly compete at AFL level, and he needs to add another 3-5 kg’s. He has good skills, great pace and courage, and he is good overhead. The two main queries I have about his game are the lapses and brain fades he seems to have every now and then, and his often careless nature. For example he will take a brilliant mark and then decide to play on and get himself into trouble. Beautifully skilled player, but he needs to work on his intensity and adding a few more kg’s.
give the guy a break, hes only played a handful of games and has been doing well in SANFLand in each one he has been out of his depth. Nothing wrong with that, he is just not ready yet. He isn't alone, I don't think Thomas is an AFL footballer yet either.
Eddie Woloschek
15 Jun 2007, 21:21
"The captain will play his 200th AFL game and Williams urged his charges to take it upon themselves to perform for their skipper.
“It's not up to me to inspire the players at all,” Williams said.
“It's up to the players to respect what Warren has done for us and the club and to get out there and play the best they can.”
Let 'em run and be quick, Choco. It's not Playstation.
"The captain will play his 200th AFL game and Williams urged his charges to take it upon themselves to perform for their skipper.
“It's not up to me to inspire the players at all,” Williams said.
“It's up to the players to respect what Warren has done for us and the club and to get out there and play the best they can.”
Let 'em run and be quick, Choco. It's not Playstation.
I agree.
Warrens 200th
Boaks debut
essendon have been our bitches at AAMI
4 losses on the trot coming up against a team with 4 wins on the trot
something tells me we will win this game and we will play the best we have played since we beat the saints
I heard that S.Burgoyne might be out? Anybody hear of this??