Changes

[Freo Big Fella]

Out: Walker, Matt Carr, Dodd
In: Farmer, Schammer, McPharlin

That for starters.

[DOCKER MAN]

Out: Walker, Matt Carr, Cook
In: Farmer, Schammer, McPharlin

Dodd is about our most consistant defender and i'm also sick of people rubishing Grover he is our best defender

[ImperialPurple]

Harsh on Dodd IMO. Wasn't the worst, had a great first quarter...

Walker will go, Cookie will probably get dropped, MCarr will likely stay...

McPharlin will have to come in, The Wiz is a no-brainer, Schammer might still get another week in the WAFL, Murphy's 8 goals today might get him looked at....

:confused:


aaahhhh I dunno.... :(

[raffrox]

Gotta Keep Dodd. He's about as close as we have to a KPP defender after Grover.

Out: Cookie, Walker, M Carr
In: McPharlin, Schammer, Jeff

[Ripper]

Harsh on Dodd IMO. Wasn't the worst, had a great first quarter...

Walker will go, Cookie will probably get dropped, MCarr will likely stay...

McPharlin will have to come in, The Wiz is a no-brainer, Schammer might still get another week in the WAFL, Murphy's 8 goals today might get him looked at....

:confused:


aaahhhh I dunno.... :(

I agree. Reckon Scham will be straight in with the Wiz but.

[DOCKER MAN]

I also want Murphy back in the side we need his Golden boot pavs gone off the boil with his kicking and taz is just kicking like taz

[E Shed]

In - Wiz, Murph, Schamm Elvis
out - Cook Walker Crowley Carr M

[rowdy3012]

I like Warnock I think hes a very good ruckman but at this stage of there careers Sandi and Warnock can not play in the same team. They give us nothing in the forward line when resting there. Bring in Murphy or Campbell and use pinch hitters in the ruck. Thank god Wiz is back the club suspension didnt hurt him it hurt the fans more. Thornton at the moment is not strong enough to play on talls and not agile enough to play on smalls. Dodd I thought was pretty good he gave us good run and showed some pace.
IMHO
out : Walker, Cook, Warnock, Thornton
in : Murphy, Farmer, McPharlin, Schammer (or leave Cook in if not ready)

[longsuffreosupp]

I agree with Warnock. I generally feel that we are short on midfielders and thats how we get over run. Carlton only have Hackland to contend with, so Murphy in for Warnock.

[Embers]

Why isnt MJ used as a part time ruckmen, Hes certainly tall and athletic enough

[dominguez]

Time to go into bat for my buddy, I reckon Doddy has been played out of position. He's not a key defender, he's a defensive midfielder. I hope Matty Carr is okay, but I'd like to see him miss the rest of the season and play Doddy as a tagger and bring in Drum or Duffman to play down back. I felt sick when I saw Matt Carr positioned inside 50 in the first quarter, what a ****ing joke.

Warnie was okay and should play against the blues.

Thornton struggled, but it's not his fault he had to play on the best player on the ground for the whole game. Any other coach would have tried 2 or 3 blokes on Brad Johnson.

Walker played pretty well I thought, but that should be his last game. We need to have one eye on the future instead of playing guys who give 100% but aren't going to influence the result.

[rowdy3012]

I am not saying Warnock hasnt played well he has but with both he and Sandilands in the side and the fact neither can take a contested mark in the forward line we can not afford to play both. No side in the league plays two players who ars solely ruckman. Sides play 1 ruckman and 1 player who is a ruckman/ pinchhitting forward or forward/ pinchhitting, ruckman at the moment we have 2 ruckman, both very good ones mind you. Its team balance. Last night we lost Carr early and with 2 ruckman we virtually had only 2 guys left on the bench.

[stevenspencer]

anyone seen browne lately? Has he fully recovered yet? He looked the goods early in the sesaon

[rgauci]

Warnock more than holds his own. His games to date have been great.

I wouldn't be dropping him any time soon.

To say our midfield seems to be one man down is true. But thats because of the quality running through there. Dropping Warnock and giving the midfield an extra player is a short term fix.

Most good teams have two quality ruckman. Yes one usually pinch hits forward. But only occasionally.

[chook2734]

Warnock has to play as much of the season as possible. He has more than held his own in the games he has played and doesn't hurt our clearances when he goes into the ruck. He's taken some pretty good marks and is a very good kick for goal.

But the main reason he needs to be there is that Sandilands will not get through another 10 (+ more hopefully) weeks if he has to carry the same workload as he has in the first 12 weeks. No good running hm into the ground, especially if we aren't going to play finals. Big men take a long time to recover from injuries, particularly if they are stress induced.

My ins/outs

Out - Crowley, Cook, Walker
In - Farmer, Schammer, McPharlin

I think we need to find a way to get Campbell or Murphy in too - take a bit of pressure of Pav and Taz, and hopefully increase our accuracy, but I can't find a fourth player to drop at the moment

[Scham]

IN: Foster, McPharlane, Collard, Schammer, Ibbotson, Farmer.
OUT:M Carr, Thornton, Headland, Walker, McManus, Cook.

Time to look to the future!

[fat wombat]

Saw a link on the footygoss web site that Foster was promoted, but there is no article to go along with it.

Unlikely to bring both Farmer and Collard into the same side at this stage.

Schammer must be close to getting a call up though! I wonder where they would play him at this stage though, hopefully it's not in a back pocket. Roger is near AA form at this stage of the season!

[dominguez]

Schammer must be close to getting a call up though! I wonder where they would play him at this stage though, hopefully it's not in a back pocket. Roger is near AA form at this stage of the season!


Headland and Schammer will alternate between half forward and the wing.

[rgauci]

Tarrant has apparently got in a fight at a Darwin Pub. I'd drop him for a game.

OUT: Tarrant, Cook, Walker, Mundy
IN: McPharlin, Murphy, Farmer, Schammer

Hayden McPharlin Johnson
Dodd Grover Black
Peake J.Carr M.Carr
Headland Pavlich Solomon
Farmer Murphy Thornton
R: Sandilands Bell Hasleby

Int: Warnock, Schammer, McManus, Crowley

[dockshark]

Warnock has to play as much of the season as possible. He has more than held his own in the games he has played and doesn't hurt our clearances when he goes into the ruck. He's taken some pretty good marks and is a very good kick for goal.

But the main reason he needs to be there is that Sandilands will not get through another 10 (+ more hopefully) weeks if he has to carry the same workload as he has in the first 12 weeks. No good running hm into the ground, especially if we aren't going to play finals. Big men take a long time to recover from injuries, particularly if they are stress induced.

My ins/outs

Out - Crowley, Cook, Walker
In - Farmer, Schammer, McPharlin

I think we need to find a way to get Campbell or Murphy in too - take a bit of pressure of Pav and Taz, and hopefully increase our accuracy, but I can't find a fourth player to drop at the moment


Um, Matt Carr anyone????

[dominguez]

Matt Carr will have a fortnight to recover. His form has been crap, but unfortunately he'll play against the blues.

Where did you here that rgauci? If it's true he has to be dropped for the game against the blues. The club did the right thing by dropping Farmer, the steps that they have taken to improve the culture at the club will be undone if they don't take action against Tarrant.

[Kenny_01]

IN: Farmer, Schammer, Ibbotson, Foster
OUT: Cook, Walker, McManus, M Carr

[Ripper]

IN: Farmer, Schammer, Ibbotson, Foster
OUT: Cook, Walker, McManus, M Carr

:thumbsu:

[dockshark]

IN: Farmer, Schammer, Ibbotson, Foster
OUT: Cook, Walker, McManus, M Carr

agreed, i love macca but someone has to go to make way for youth

[Tony_Clifton]

Good move. Every player who won't be here next year shouldn't get a game for the rest of the year. Share it between the young blokes. Also send Matt Carr back to the WAFL for at least 4 weeks and have Dodd/Josh Carr or a young fella do the tagging.

Have one of Murphy or Cambell playing as a legitamate full forward and give Pav and Tarrant licence to get there kicks further up the ground if they need to.

[dominguez]

IN: Farmer, Schammer, Ibbotson, Foster
OUT: Cook, Walker, McManus, M Carr


Swap Ibbo for McPharlin and I'd be happy with those changes.

If there are 4 changes for the Carlton game (and there almost certainly won't be 4 changes even though there should be) the ins will be McPharlin, Schammer, Farmer and Charlie Murphy.

[dockshark]

Let's get a bit radical!!

Out: M Carr, Walker, Mcmanus, Cook, Thornton, Crowley, Soloman, Mundy
IN: Ibbotson, Foster, Farmer, Schammer, Murphy, Collard, Mcpharlin, Hadrill


Structure up like this:

FB: Hayden Hadrill Grover

HB: Black Mcpharlin Johnson

C: Peake Bell Ibbotson

HF: Headland Pavlich Tarrant

FF: Farmer Murphy Sandilands

R: Warnock Schammer J Carr
INT: Foster, Dodd, Collard, Haselby

This team with instruction to go long and fast up the middle, keep the ball moving forward at all costs look for a target in the forward fifty if nothing available kick to a one on one and back our forwards in. Never with more than two of bell, hase and J carr on the ground at the same time( we have to get faster)

This will obviously never happen but this team with a faster gameplan and half a season to get it together could be formiddable next year.......add in one or to young gun midfielders from first round draft picks and we've got ourselves a winning combo imho.

[pistol17]

Let's get a bit radical!!

Out: M Carr, Walker, Mcmanus, Cook, Thornton, Crowley, Soloman, Mundy
IN: Ibbotson, Foster, Farmer, Schammer, Murphy, Collard, Mcpharlin, Hadrill


Structure up like this:

FB: Hayden Hadrill Grover

HB: Black Mcpharlin Johnson

C: Peake Bell Ibbotson

HF: Headland Pavlich Tarrant

FF: Farmer Murphy Sandilands

R: Warnock Schammer J Carr
INT: Foster, Dodd, Collard, Haselby

This team with instruction to go long and fast up the middle, keep the ball moving forward at all costs look for a target in the forward fifty if nothing available kick to a one on one and back our forwards in. Never with more than two of bell, hase and J carr on the ground at the same time( we have to get faster)

This will obviously never happen but this team with a faster gameplan and half a season to get it together could be formiddable next year.......add in one or to young gun midfielders from first round draft picks and we've got ourselves a winning combo imho.

I was looking at your outs and was going to get stuck into you about dropping solomon and mundy but then i looked at the lineup... and i must say i am agreeing with you. That side will be our best 22 next year well very close anyway. Only the haddrill selection im worried about. :thumbsu:

[dockshark]

I was looking at your outs and was going to get stuck into you about dropping solomon and mundy but then i looked at the lineup... and i must say i am agreeing with you. That side will be our best 22 next year well very close anyway. Only the haddrill selection im worried about. :thumbsu:

I know what you mean about hadrill, but i think we really need to get a 'real' fullback into the lineup and hadrill is as close as we've got, give him a run and see if he's still up to it. Solomon praps a bit unlucky but he needs to learn some discipline and i really think that mundy has lost his mojo (maybe a spell inthe wafl would do him the world of good)

[Tommo]

I know it might look like it, but this year is not gone yet. There are changes that need to be made but
Definite IN: Farmer, Shammer, McPharlin.
OUT: Walker, Cook, M Carr.

Possible INS depending on structure: Foster, Murphy

Possible Outs: Thornton, Crowley

Punish bad games reward good ones.

[pistol17]

In: Murphy, Farmer, Schammer, Ibbotson, Foster, McPharlin

Out: M. Carr, Cook, McManus, Thornton, Walker, Crowley

OUTS: Thornton had one kick for the game and got smashed, looked out of place at times. M. Carr has to go out and learn how to kick again (didnt get a chance agianst the dogs tho). Cook well sorry to say isnt up to AFL anymore, he wont be here next year, no time for sentiment, back to WAFL. Walker, same as cookie sorry mate we gave you 150 games but time to go back to Peel. McManus, love the guy but make way for some youth now.

INS: Murphy with another 8 goals is in. Farmer back in after having the ball on a string last week. Schammer with just about 3 BOG in 3 appearances for Claremont, straight into freo midfield. Ibbo onto a wing, kicked 2 goals to win the game for East Freo against Peel. And foster just needs to play, get some experience into the kid, has had leather poisioning all year.

Bottom line is REWARD WAFL FORM and drop the passengers from the dockers lineup, forget about reputations and names and go on form.

[summerthebat]

In: Murphy, Farmer, Schammer, Ibbotson, Foster

Out: M. Carr, Cook, McManus, Thornton, Walker

OUTS: Thornton had one kick for the game and got smashed, looked out of place at times. M. Carr has to go out and learn how to kick again (didnt get a chance agianst the dogs tho). Cook well sorry to say isnt up to AFL anymore, he wont be here next year, no time for sentiment, back to WAFL. Walker, same as cookie sorry mate we gave you 150 games but time to go back to Peel. McManus, love the guy but make way for some youth now.

INS: Murphy with another 8 goals is in. Farmer back in after having the ball on a string last week. Schammer with just about 3 BOG in 3 appearances for Claremont, straight into freo midfield. Ibbo onto a wing, kicked 2 goals to win the game for East Freo against Peel. And foster just needs to play, get some experience into the kid, has had leather poisioning all year.

Bottom line is REWARD WAFL FORM and drop the passengers from the dockers lineup, forget about reputations and names and go on form.


I think it's a little unfair on Thornton...... if McPharlin had played we would have taken Johnson.... Luke is quicker and stronger so I think Johnson would have had less impact or at least would have been forced worked harder. Thornton got stuck with Johnson unprepared, I thought his earlier games this season were great.. taking the 3rd string attackers/loose defender.

I will actually be quite upset if Murphy isn't getting a run round 13, obviously his chemistry with Jeff is paying off huge with South's so I think Walker/Cook can easily be sacrificed. I just hope Jeffrey isn't instructed to set up Pav 9 out of 10 times!

[pistol17]

I think it's a little unfair on Thornton...... if McPharlin had played we would have taken Johnson.... Luke is quicker and stronger so I think Johnson would have had less impact or at least would have been forced worked harder. Thornton got stuck with Johnson unprepared, I thought his earlier games this season were great.. taking the 3rd string attackers/loose defender.

I will actually be quite upset if Murphy isn't getting a run round 13, obviously his chemistry with Jeff is paying off huge with South's so I think Walker/Cook can easily be sacrificed. I just hope Jeffrey isn't instructed to set up Pav 9 out of 10 times!

Not just Jeffrey, the whole team needs to look for another target up forward. As good as tarrant has been this year he has been up the ground for most of it which leaves Pavlich as the only marking forward. Throw murphy into the side along with Farmer and get the midfielders to open their tunnel vision and look for murphy or someone else who isnt double or triple teamed.

[DOCKER MAN]

Let's get a bit radical!!

Out: M Carr, Walker, Mcmanus, Cook, Thornton, Crowley, Soloman, Mundy
IN: Ibbotson, Foster, Farmer, Schammer, Murphy, Collard, Mcpharlin, Hadrill


Structure up like this:

FB: Hayden Hadrill Grover

HB: Black Mcpharlin Johnson

C: Peake Bell Ibbotson

HF: Headland Pavlich Tarrant

FF: Farmer Murphy Sandilands

R: Warnock Schammer J Carr
INT: Foster, Dodd, Collard, Haselby

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Mundy is one of our top 10 players, Soloman has been one of our better players over the last few weeks and you need to leave crowley in if matt carr is dropped has crowleys our best run with player, i would say he beat judd in the derby. I like Foster and want him in the side but with shammer comeing back you can't fit him in. Ibotson is just not ready yet, and with Jeffrey back in the side then there is no way we can fit in collard our foward line is way to good at the moment. And thorton is in our best 22 but he was way out of his depth playing on Johnson connoly should of made the change.

My changes:
In: Murphy, Farmer, Shammer, McPharlin
Out: Walker, Cook, M Carr, McManus

[fat wombat]

I'd want Thornton out of the backline unless he's playing as a loose man in defense. He's just not up to the body on body stuff. I've probably seen one real good game out of him body on body and that was vs the Saints a year or 2 back.

I'd like to see him play on a wing or through the middle in spurts where his run could really hurt the opposition.

[nezasaur]

Can someone tell my mcpharlin didn't play on the weekend?

[Lach72]

Can someone tell my mcpharlin didn't play on the weekend?

Flu according to CC in the paper this morning...probably means a hammy.

[dominguez]

I will actually be quite upset if Murphy isn't getting a run round 13, obviously his chemistry with Jeff is paying off huge with South's so I think Walker/Cook can easily be sacrificed. I just hope Jeffrey isn't instructed to set up Pav 9 out of 10 times!


I'd like to see Murphy play too, but I'll be surprised if it happens. The pecking order this week will be
Farmer
McPharlin
Schammer
Murphy.
Cook and Walker will be dropped, but who will miss out for Schammer and Murphy if they are going to play? Maybe Warnie since Sandi will have had a weeks rest and the blues don't have a ruckman, but we'll need Big Nockers the week after in Sydney.

[dominguez]

Mundy is one of our top 10 players


Not even close IMO.

I'd pick Pavlich, Josh, Bell, Hasleby, Grover, Hayden, Sandilands, Schammer, Solomon, Tarrant, Peake, Headland, Crowley, McPharlin, Black, Thornton, Dodd, Johnson and Farmer long before Mundy.

[dockshark]

Mundy is one of our top 10 players, Soloman has been one of our better players over the last few weeks and you need to leave crowley in if matt carr is dropped has crowleys our best run with player, i would say he beat judd in the derby. I like Foster and want him in the side but with shammer comeing back you can't fit him in. Ibotson is just not ready yet, and with Jeffrey back in the side then there is no way we can fit in collard our foward line is way to good at the moment. And thorton is in our best 22 but he was way out of his depth playing on Johnson connoly should of made the change.

My changes:
In: Murphy, Farmer, Shammer, McPharlin
Out: Walker, Cook, M Carr, McManus


I disagree with any assessment that put's mundy into the top ten he is the number one culprit for not going in for the hard balls, not commiting his body and not blocking for his team mates. We have doddy or josh carr for run with midfield, both better and more comitted imo. How can you say that Ibbo isn't ready, he's had about half a game to prove himself in which he did OK.the boy needs a chance. As for not having room for fast skillful midfielders well praps you watch different games to me as i am dumbfounded by this statement , and really it doesn't matter who is in the best player list in a team that is consistently losing games that they should win, the structure is not working so it needs a change.

[Purple Passion]

Mundy is one of our top 10 players,
you've got to be kidding me right , Mundy is as soft as butter ..weak :thumbsd:

[estibador]

you've got to be kidding me right , Mundy is as soft as butter ..weak :thumbsd:

He's also one of the classiest players in the side and one of the very, very few who can hit a target over 40+ metres. He's also got very good decision making and rarely makes clangers. When Mundy gets the ball something good always happens.

We've just got to find the best place to use him. I'm leaning towards moving him up the ground because admittedly he lacks the last gasp desperation you need in defenders.

[pistol17]

How about Mundy at Half Forward and send Solomon into defence where he plays his best footy (well he did at the bombers anyway).

[dockshark]

Let's get a bit radical!!

Out: M Carr, Walker, Mcmanus, Cook, Thornton, Crowley, Soloman, Mundy
IN: Ibbotson, Foster, Farmer, Schammer, Murphy, Collard, Mcpharlin, Hadrill


Structure up like this:

FB: Hayden Hadrill Grover

HB: Black Mcpharlin Johnson

C: Peake Bell Ibbotson

HF: Headland Pavlich Tarrant

FF: Farmer Murphy Sandilands

R: Warnock Schammer J Carr
INT: Foster, Dodd, Collard, Haselby

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okay in light of accusations coming out from Darwin, If they are substantiated then tarrant out mundy in onto hff direct swap

[Cassius_Clay]

Schammer is BACK!

[peppy la pew]

Schammer is BACK!


Does that mean you aren't going to bag freo anymore ?

[dockers_bengals]

In-Schammer,farmer,murphy
out-cook,mundy,crowley
solomon to take mundys role
Happy birthday (tomorrow)to my buddy schammer turning 22.
Only 62 hrs(from midnight) before he hits the banner or to be exact 3730 min to bounce down if selected

[dominguez]

In-Schammer,farmer,murphy
out-cook,mundy,crowley
solomon to take mundys role
Happy birthday (tomorrow)to my buddy schammer turning 22.


Would you keep Walker in the side, or did you forget him?

[Cassius_Clay]

Does that mean you aren't going to bag freo anymore ?
Maybe. If some of your fans werent so arrogant I wouldnt bag freo at all.

[pistol17]

Maybe. If some of your fans werent so arrogant I wouldnt bag freo at all.

A collingwood supporter calling freo supporters arrogant :confused: