Umpires Essendon vs Geelong!

[cAsEy_18]

Was an absolute disgrace. it was the worst i have ever seen. so many terrible free kicks called, so many obvious free kicks not paid. I dont want this to sound like an essendon fan making an excuse because we probably got a better deal in the end, but they were terrible tonight.

[Jizza9]

Essendon Fan whinging about umpires.....

Ha!

[Prismall32]

Was an absolute disgrace. it was the worst i have ever seen. so many terrible free kicks called, so many obvious free kicks not paid. I dont want this to sound like an essendon fan making an excuse because we probably got a better deal in the end, but they were terrible tonight.
Usual terrible decisions - against Egan for holding the ball when the ump was on the other side and against Scarlett for touching Lucas with his forearm! Bomber supporters with us felt they were well looked after! 50/50 by end of game - still awful!

[Alphanumeric]

They were pretty bad.

[Bakes]

Usual terrible decisions - against Egan for holding the ball when the ump was on the other side and against Scarlett for touching Lucas with his forearm! Bomber supporters with us felt they were well looked after! 50/50 by end of game - still awful!

Scarlett had his hands out but didnt make contact with lucas' back, add to that the watson holding the ball, and you give essendon three goals. If only Geelong had had that last night. Would have been over at half time.

Essendon always get the cheap goal resulting frees, but still winge when a few happen against them in no mans land.

[ant22]

I was really P!SSEd of last night. The bloke I am playing in DT has Lucas and chapman. Did anyone see the ump give lucas the kick at goal in the 2nd when he did not even lay the tackle? 10 points right there. He also gave chapman and lucas soft frees in front of goal another 10 a piece. Cost me 30 points last night. If I lose in a close one I will be knocking on geish's door asking for an explanation. Its a bloody outrage.

[Tonycam*]

Was an absolute disgrace. it was the worst i have ever seen. so many terrible free kicks called, so many obvious free kicks not paid. I dont want this to sound like an essendon fan making an excuse because we probably got a better deal in the end, but they were terrible tonight.
Have to agree , we were saying during the match there were some extremly bad calls made by them. for both sides.

[Butane]

Usual terrible decisions - against Egan for holding the ball when the ump was on the other side and against Scarlett for touching Lucas with his forearm! Bomber supporters with us felt they were well looked after! 50/50 by end of game - still awful!

Ohh come on. That decision was a tough call. But when it happened it looked like he dived on, i thought he was gone, the commentators on TV thought he was gone and the umpire thought he was gone. It was only on slow reply that it looked like Egan was unlucky, but it was far from a shocking call. You need better examples then that if you want to prove a point.

[Ripper]

Don''t forget Mal Micheal's rugby pass to Fletcher right in front of goal that went un noticed.

[Prismall32]

Ohh come on. That decision was a tough call. But when it happened it looked like he dived on, i thought he was gone, the commentators on TV thought he was gone and the umpire thought he was gone. It was only on slow reply that it looked like Egan was unlucky, but it was far from a shocking call. You need better examples then that if you want to prove a point.
Were you there, sport? Many others could be given!!! These were just from our perspective - Bomber mates with me were filthy at a raft of others against both teams! P.S. - Good avatar!

[LeFtBehinD]

Scarlett had his hands out but didnt make contact with lucas' back...

Was listening to the game on Triple M and they think that one decision there will be the death of this rule. It has ruined the game.

[Butane]

Were you there, sport? Many others could be given!!! These were just from our perspective - Bomber mates with me were filthy at a raft of others against both teams! P.S. - Good avatar!

No, Sport, i wasn't there. I watched it on TV from 4 different angles at various speeds from live to Uber-duber-slow. And i admit it was a tough call, but there was worse, in fact there have been worse decisions in every game this season then that one.

[Father Jack]

If it is the one I am thinking about, Scarlett may have lightly brushed Lucas' back, but it made absolutely no difference to the contest as Lucas was coming back anyway and his progress wasn't hindered in any way. The free kick that was paid was totally counter to the spirit of the game. Yes, death to the 'interpretation' right there.

[jimmy.h]

Was an absolute disgrace. it was the worst i have ever seen. so many terrible free kicks called, so many obvious free kicks not paid. I dont want this to sound like an essendon fan making an excuse because we probably got a better deal in the end, but they were terrible tonight.

The umpiring was poor, they seemed to guess a lot in the holding the ball decisions. Didn't really influence the result of the game though

[CatmanForever]

both teams copped bad decisions.....that's football

[bomberstomake8]

Was an absolute disgrace. it was the worst i have ever seen. so many terrible free kicks called, so many obvious free kicks not paid. I dont want this to sound like an essendon fan making an excuse because we probably got a better deal in the end, but they were terrible tonight.

umpires like every week did not have an affect on the game
the poor decisions were spread evenly

[cbreban]

the MJ free kick on Chapman was up there with one of the softest decisions of all time, he literally just touched him.

[Palace03]

and against Scarlett for touching Lucas with his forearm!

I know which incident you are talking about, and as soft as it was Scarlett clearly put his hand on Lucas's back, didn't push, but that's the (crap) rule. Can't blame the Ump for that.

There were a few softies paid both ways, but the umps were just pulling in the raines a bit when it got heated.

[dave_27]

the MJ free kick on Chapman was up there with one of the softest decisions of all time, he literally just touched him.

Agree, disgraceful.

[Ari]

both teams copped bad decisions.....that's football

Exactly. It makes me laugh, really laugh... to see people on here whining about an 'individual' free kick paid in the game. :confused:

[Strike Swiftly]

the MJ free kick on Chapman was up there with one of the softest decisions of all time, he literally just touched him.

that one was hilarious. was playing in front, and got pinged for in the back. how the hell does that work?

[ripitup27]

Ohh come on. That decision was a tough call. But when it happened it looked like he dived on, i thought he was gone, the commentators on TV thought he was gone and the umpire thought he was gone. It was only on slow reply that it looked like Egan was unlucky, but it was far from a shocking call. You need better examples then that if you want to prove a point.

What made that worse was the desperate smother that Egan put on before. But I mean, he got picked up the ball WHILE ON HIS FEET, got tackled and went to ground, umpire was completely blind sided, and somehow he was deemed to have dived on it. Ridiculous.

The Johnson one on Chapman was crap too, he never touched his back with the hands, nor did Scarlett on Lucas.

And I half remember a ridiculous free kick that resulted in Laycock getting a free and a 50 and he put it out on the full. What happened there again? All the bad umpiring decisions are morphing into one.

[Strike Swiftly]

he got a late punch in the back of the head. didnt look good. you never know with the MRP, he could go for a month. i cant remember who the player was, i think it was Corey

[Father Jack]

What made that worse was the desperate smother that Egan put on before. But I mean, he got picked up the ball WHILE ON HIS FEET, got tackled and went to ground, umpire was completely blind sided, and somehow he was deemed to have dived on it. Ridiculous.

The Johnson one on Chapman was crap too, he never touched his back with the hands, nor did Scarlett on Lucas.

And I half remember a ridiculous free kick that resulted in Laycock getting a free and a 50 and he put it out on the full. What happened there again? All the bad umpiring decisions are morphing into one.

Forget who it was but i think it was a clip around the ear for a free, and from the resulting mark from the kick, a clip around the back of the head for a 50. The sorts of things that may be soft, but really shouldn't happen anyway.

[Rustybugles]

both teams copped bad decisions.....that's football
Precisely - I don't think anyone who was there felt that the decisions affected the outcome - but they infuriate the crowd - Bombers supporters in particular. Most around me thought that Velvet might have kicked 3 goals but they still would have lost - and he gets at least 3 'gifts' - their opinion!

[Strike Swiftly]

yeh im sure that there opinion. essendons opinion was that nablett would have played, done nothing and returned to country football. he later finds out that gablett is not his real father, hence different genes and no skills.

[Adelaide Hawk]

I don't have to look for the scores. If I want to know who lost, I just come to this forum and read the posts from whingeing LOSERS about umpires.

Geelong were better than Essendon, umpires or not. End of story.

[DonMania#5]

How about the free kick to Chapman against Mark Johnson for hands in the back?
lmao

[Plogs]

Was an absolute disgrace. it was the worst i have ever seen. so many terrible free kicks called, so many obvious free kicks not paid. I dont want this to sound like an essendon fan making an excuse because we probably got a better deal in the end, but they were terrible tonight.

You sound like an essendon fan making an excuse.

[Ari]

I think we can all agree that 'hands in the back' is a stupid rule and killing the game.

I would say that 9 out of 10 umpires hate it too... make their job more difficult.

It rather annoyed me to see defenders not knowing what to do. If they got behind their man they can't do a thing. :( :mad:

[Nick Cannon]

Its that McBurney guy, he is hopeless, loves to ping holding the ball.
Worst umpire in the leauge followed by Goldstunk and Goofy Mclaren

[Valve Bounce]

Can we get away from these umpire bshing excuses whenever a team loses a game? Normally in an 8 game weekend we have 8 winners and 8 whiners.

Let's talk about something less boring instead.

[Hodge2Franklin]

I have been saying it for a few months and I used to be an umpire supporter not knocker.

They have lost the plot. Their performances are farcacle and last night was no exception, they were woeful.

The new rules/intepretations were clearly designed to manufacture more places for them to hide and quite simply to provide more excuses for their incompetitence.

It is disgusting that with all the money the AFL have that they won't bring in some better ones and pay them more if necessary to lure them over.

[Hodge2Franklin]

Can we get away from these umpire bshing excuses whenever a team loses a game? Normally in an 8 game weekend we have 8 winners and 8 whiners.

Let's talk about something less boring instead.

Geeze a surprising response there from a Bummer fan.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Strike Swiftly]

I have been saying it for a few months and I used to be an umpire supporter not knocker.

They have lost the plot. Their performances are farcacle and last night was no exception, they were woeful.

The new rules/intepretations were clearly designed to manufacture more places for them to hide and quite simply to provide more excuses for their incompetitence.

It is disgusting that with all the money the AFL have that they won't bring in some better ones and pay them more if necessary to lure them over.

i agree. we need to settle of a decent set of rules and leave it alone. why the need to change something all the time. its crazy. soccer has had like two rule changes in 50 odd years or something.

[Blues_Man]

The umpiring was disgraceful , at times it appeared that only Geelong could give away a free kick ..the umpires kept Essendon in the game for most of the night ...they were a joke

[Hodge2Franklin]

i agree. we need to settle of a decent set of rules and leave it alone. why the need to change something all the time. its crazy. soccer has had like two rule changes in 50 odd years or something.

I'm telling you the AFL pushed this one through.

WHY?????????????????/

Because miiiiister statistics Anderson, realised that by adding additional greyness to the rules would help him doctor his incorrect umpiring decisions report to Vlad.

I can't believe how easily the AFL keeps pulling the wool over supporters.

[Valve Bounce]

Geeze a surprising response there from a Bummer fan.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


Just think about it: without umpires we wouldn't have any footy.

[RizzoTheRat]

I only watched the 1st quarter before falling asleep on the couch (Doh!)

Did all this happen in the remaining 3 quarters? I thought the umpiring I saw was spot on.

[JoondalupJ]

Was an absolute disgrace. it was the worst i have ever seen. so many terrible free kicks called, so many obvious free kicks not paid. I dont want this to sound like an essendon fan making an excuse because we probably got a better deal in the end, but they were terrible tonight.
The rules committee is killing Australian rules football. This comment is made after every game just about ,surely the powers that be in the AFL must see and hear the fans going insane trying to understand incidental touching rules
and arms round the neck in scrums (shit did I say scrums)that don't get paid,
holding the ball? holding the man? how far is 15 metres is it 8 metres or is it 10 metres or WHAT. I think the game is still good because of the pace its played at and the collisions are really tough and the hand speed is good,
but,and its a big but,scrounging around on the ground by five six or eight players then finding the umpire giving a holding the ball free against the poor bugger at the bottom after he has couragiously gone in for the ball is baffling.
I think its baffling for the Umps as well, thats a big problem, its got to change next year or this game will lose its soul.We don't see that many screamers any more either, too many ball ups,you can hold your ground with your fore arm from a player moving back into you, but if you accidently brush his back for a split second with an open hand and the umpire happens to see it, he's abliged to give a free, its seriously crazy, worse, a hell of a lot of times its simply unfair and that is an indictment on our magnificent game!
Any one remember the commercial "I'd like to see that" the AFL blasted across TV not so long ago well WHERE HAS THAT ALL GONE BECAUSE MOST OF IT HAS GONE.

[ciaobella]

I only watched the 1st quarter before falling asleep on the couch (Doh!)

Did all this happen in the remaining 3 quarters? I thought the umpiring I saw was spot on.

Yep, you were either watching a completely different game or you weren't watching it at all. The umpiring was woeful. I saw it on Ch 7 and again on Foxtel. It's on again on Foxtel at 5pm today.

As for those who thought the free against MJ was BS, the only thing the umpire got wrong there was for paying it in the back instead of over the shoulder. MJ's arm was clearly over Chappy's shoulder. Watch it!

The infamous free against Scarlett for giving Lucas a static shock - so much so Lucas was thrown forward :rolleyes: - was another highlight reel for KB to cream himself over. Loved hearing JB's response to the decision on Triple M last night.

Last but not least, how the hell did Mal Michael not get a 50 against him for decking Mooney after he took that mark 20 out in front? Fair enough he was only 20 out but where's that magical but four letter word, consistency?

The sad thing is we've got so called footballing 'greats' who are in high places in the umpiring world that are accepting this poor excuse for umpiring and not doing jack about it. What does that say about the state of our game?

[Hodge2Franklin]

The rules committee is killing Australian rules football. This comment is made after every game just about ,surely the powers that be in the AFL must see and hear the fans going insane trying to understand incidental touching rules
and arms round the neck in scrums (shit did I say scrums)that don't get paid,
holding the ball? holding the man? how far is 15 metres is it 8 metres or is it 10 metres or WHAT. I think the game is still good because of the pace its played at and the collisions are really tough and the hand speed is good,
but,and its a big but,scrounging around on the ground by five six or eight players then finding the umpire giving a holding the ball free against the poor bugger at the bottom after he has couragiously gone in for the ball is baffling.
I think its baffling for the Umps as well, thats a big problem, its got to change next year or this game will lose its soul.We don't see that many screamers any more either, too many ball ups,you can hold your ground with your fore arm from a player moving back into you, but if you accidently brush his back for a split second with an open hand and the umpire happens to see it, he's abliged to give a free, its seriously crazy, worse, a hell of a lot of times its simply unfair and that is an indictment on our magnificent game!
Any one remember the commercial "I'd like to see that" the AFL blasted across TV not so long ago well WHERE HAS THAT ALL GONE BECAUSE MOST OF IT HAS GONE.

You give me sanity my friend... :rolleyes: I couldn't agree more ...

great post.:thumbsu:

[Hodge2Franklin]

I only watched the 1st quarter before falling asleep on the couch (Doh!)

Did all this happen in the remaining 3 quarters? I thought the umpiring I saw was spot on.

Pick a Box.

(1) I am a Flog

(2) I am an umpire

(3) I actually fell asleep before the bounce and missed the game.

Just respond with a number dude.:D

[boncer34]

Geeze a surprising response there from a Bummer fan.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Uh huh. He's basically saying stop whingeing about umpires because we lost......

Let me get this right ok?
You have a crack at Essendon supporters for whingeing about umpires, yet when an Essendon fan says STOP whingeing you still have a crack?:rolleyes:

[giantsully]

As an objective observer, last night's umpiring was just awful. It had no impact on the final result but there were half a dozen just dreadful decisions - not 50/50s that could go either way, just blatant errors.

The HTB decision in Q1 where Lucas ended up scoring a goal is my candidate for worst decision of the year. Just a lazy decision by an ump who clearly wasn't in the right position.

[ManWithNoName]

Umpires were shocking, not favouring either side so don't get your knickers in a knot neutral fans. But since when can you get tackled, drop the ball and have it not be a free kick? When did they change that rule?

[The Royal Sampler]

Mostly, the poor decisions (or non-decisions) I saw went in Essendon's favour. Like the rugby-throw Ripper mentioned, Hislop's holding-the-ball, and the very soft (but IMHO "technically" correct) free to Lucas for a hand on his back. Made less than zero difference to the marking contest, but the hand was there.

[Bigs]

Umpires were shocking, not favouring either side so don't get your knickers in a knot neutral fans. But since when can you get tackled, drop the ball and have it not be a free kick? When did they change that rule?

Waiting for the inevitible answer from the haters here... :o :p

[ManWithNoName]

Waiting for the inevitible answer from the haters here... :o :p
Perfect case was against Hislop (I think). Got the ball, took a couple of steps, stopped, got tackled and dropped the ball. I was baffled as to how it wasn't a free.

There you go neutral fans. I used an Essendon case just to prove I'm not whinging about the umps.

[GAPH]

yeh im sure that there opinion. essendons opinion was that nablett would have played, done nothing and returned to country football. he later finds out that gablett is not his real father, hence different genes and no skills.

Yeah i wish we had the almighty Courntey Johns instead.

[afl genius]

yeah it was even, but the 1 that was the worst was the watson one in the centre square, had about a minute and then just dropped it.

[winty]

What really irked me last night was the vast differences in interpretation of free kicks. Case in point was when Ottens laid a perfect tackle in the middle of the ground and the player tackled had the ball for about five seconds, didn't dispose of the ball correctly and the umpire deemed that he had no prior opportunity and called play on. The Bombers gathered the crumbs and kicked the ball down into the forward line where Egan smothered Lucas' kick, gathered the ball himself, fell over, had three Essendon players holding the ball in, and the umpire, who was blindsided, guessed that Egan still had the ball, didn't get it out and pinged him. Then when he was questioned by Ablett about it, said he saw that Egan didn't get the ball out. Only way he could've seen what was going on was if he possessed X-ray vision. To make matters worse, to pay the free kick to Lucas, who was the third man in, was an utter disgrace.

Didn't have much of an impact on the end result, but one day an ordinary decision like that will cost a team a flag. :thumbsd::mad:

[Strike Swiftly]

you won the game. quit whinging about the umps. IMO geelong had the better of the decisions. move on

[winty]

you won the game. quit whinging about the umps. IMO geelong had the better of the decisions. move on

Not whinging mate. That example was the one that readily came to mind. I'm sure there were examples of frees we got that Essendon didn't. I don't think we had the better of the umpiring though. They were pretty ordinary for both teams.

[cAsEy_18]

mate how am i making an excuse when i said we got a better deal. i was just trying to point out how disgraceful they were. BOTH WAYS!

And yes i agree it wouldn't have affected the result whatsoever, i was just trying to point out that they were terrible.

You sound like an essendon fan making an excuse.

[The Tinman]

It was strange... it seemed like Essendon couldn't buy a holding the ball decision despite some red hot 0.98 seconds "GAWN"'s going to Geelong...except for Bartel pinning M.Johnson or McVeigh beatifully only for the umpire to count to 10000 in 1000's and yawn and wave his arms as play on...but then Ess got a few supersoft "hands in back" decisions and fired off a few slick "Adelaide" handpasses that went unnoticed...

Nothing more frustrating watching your team crumple with injuries knowing that any loss under 40pts would be a good result when you are only down by 4pts...with a quarter and a half to go...

[dmc82]

Was an absolute disgrace. it was the worst i have ever seen. so many terrible free kicks called, so many obvious free kicks not paid. I dont want this to sound like an essendon fan making an excuse because we probably got a better deal in the end, but they were terrible tonight.

I rang a friend of mine twice last night to tell him he's a f*ckwit... cause he's an umpire :)

The umpiring was awful both ways, I'd say the bad decisions broke even. You may be glad to know that I refused to clap Chapman's goal because the free was bullsh*t.

[Hodge2Franklin]

What really irked me last night was the vast differences in interpretation of free kicks. Case in point was when Ottens laid a perfect tackle in the middle of the ground and the player tackled had the ball for about five seconds, didn't dispose of the ball correctly and the umpire deemed that he had no prior opportunity and called play on. The Bombers gathered the crumbs and kicked the ball down into the forward line where Egan smothered Lucas' kick, gathered the ball himself, fell over, had three Essendon players holding the ball in, and the umpire, who was blindsided, guessed that Egan still had the ball, didn't get it out and pinged him. Then when he was questioned by Ablett about it, said he saw that Egan didn't get the ball out. Only way he could've seen what was going on was if he possessed X-ray vision. To make matters worse, to pay the free kick to Lucas, who was the third man in, was an utter disgrace.

Didn't have much of an impact on the end result, but one day an ordinary decision like that will cost a team a flag. :thumbsd::mad:

Thank you ... i can't BELIEVE how bad it is. Like I said earlier I was always, I stress always someone who stuck up for umpires in the main. There would be the odd game that I would be peeved about, but generally I thought that they did a good job.

Not any more.

They have completely lost the plot with the new rules, and the AFL's lack of action or acknowledge of this problem is at the core of what the failings of this administration are about.

[Renegade]

you won the game. quit whinging about the umps. IMO geelong had the better of the decisions. move on

Yeah because it's Geelong fans complaining and starting threads bitching about it isnt it? :rolleyes: Back in your hole

[kylesut]

you won the game. quit whinging about the umps. IMO geelong had the better of the decisions. move on

Stop crying Essendon supporters. My uncle went who goes for the Dons and even he said they had little or no impact on the game at all .... thats something coming from him.