Why do we still argue after with the Umps when they are never going to change their decision?

[scottyD]

Honestly, its out of control these days...

If for some reason the umpires changes their decision, the crowd will go crazy!!

Whats the point? Clubs should tell their players not to do it.

[docker_azza]

Honestly, its out of control these days...

If for some reason the umpires changes their decision, the crowd will go crazy!!

Whats the point? Clubs should tell their players not to do it.

Because the umpires make mistakes.

And sometimes they need to be let known about some bad decisions and missed decisions they make.

[Super Goalie]

But there are correct ways to go about it.

"Whoops, sorry! You're right! Can I have the ball thanks, I'll bounce it. Sorry guys about that guys!!."

[VanBerlo=God]

But there are correct ways to go about it.

"Whoops, sorry! You're right! Can I have the ball thanks, I'll bounce it. Sorry guys about that guys!!."
this can only be done in certain situations

i.e. an umpire blows the whistle for a mark too quickly, and during the action, the player drops the ball. the umpire calls immediate play on, the play continues, the player is tackled and brought to the ground.

if the player does not try to elude the tackling player, it is bounced.
that is about 1 of 1 situations where it happens.

[BK Eaglesfan]

Yeah, love the new thing to 'infect' football....let's just stare at the screen and wait for the replay, then ask the umpire to do the same.

[Bob_vic]

But there are correct ways to go about it.

"Whoops, sorry! You're right! Can I have the ball thanks, I'll bounce it. Sorry guys about that guys!!."

That's called poor control. Keep doing that throughout a match and you'll be even less credible than just being strong with the decision, even if it's a mistake. Better off just copping the mistake and moving on rather than trying to correct it. Most of the time, you'll look worse by trying to correct the mistake.

[Bob_vic]

Because the umpires make mistakes.

And sometimes they need to be let known about some bad decisions and missed decisions they make.

Why? More often the players are wrong than the umpires. Letting the umpire know that he is wrong isn't going to help the player's cause. Better off just to get on with it. There's nothing worse for an umpire than sooking players.

The umpires don't criticise players bad decisions and skills errors, so the same respect should be given back to the umpires.

[ubolt]

If a player has a go at me for getting something wrong i ask him how many things he has done wrong today (within reason).

I'll be the first to admit i've made a mistake, but umpires can always come back with the arugment of how many errors the player has made.

[TigerCraig]

That's called poor control. Keep doing that throughout a match and you'll be even less credible than just being strong with the decision, even if it's a mistake. Better off just copping the mistake and moving on rather than trying to correct it. Most of the time, you'll look worse by trying to correct the mistake.


Partially agree. You can't try to correct a mistake or even up - that's plain wrong.

But a good umpire or ref should be man (or woman) enough to be able to say "sorry guys, too quick on that one".

One advantage a soccer ref has is that under the laws you can change your decision before play restarts if you are aware you are wrong.

[Bob_vic]

Partially agree. You can't try to correct a mistake or even up - that's plain wrong.

But a good umpire or ref should be man (or woman) enough to be able to say "sorry guys, too quick on that one".

One advantage a soccer ref has is that under the laws you can change your decision before play restarts if you are aware you are wrong.

The point I was getting at was that you wouldn't want to make a habit of it. Save it for the odd occasion. Changing your decision 2 or more times in a match would make yourself look more of a dill than sticking with the original decisions. Ideally, these kinds of obvious mistakes should happen very rarely.

[docker_azza]

Why? More often the players are wrong than the umpires. Letting the umpire know that he is wrong isn't going to help the player's cause. Better off just to get on with it. There's nothing worse for an umpire than sooking players.

The umpires don't criticise players bad decisions and skills errors, so the same respect should be given back to the umpires.

Disagree.

The umpire controls the game and enforces the rules anyone in that position on the sporting field has the highest degree of responsibility then anyone else.

There are many times where players and officials go off at an umpire over a correct call that they make that goes against that team, but as I posted on another thread

Umpires make mistakes, are in a paid job and therefore should not be immune to criticism. Simple as that.

I'm even a umpire myself (umpire junior footy) and theres always going to be inevitable situations where you miss free kicks and/or make wrong decisions and players/officials/supporters of one of the sides are going to get passionate. Fact of life.

Having said that, theres a difference in criticising umpiring decisions that are wrong and ridiculing umpires over a few umpiring decisions. I detest people who consistently ridicule and hang poop on umpires. At the AFL level Malthouse is a classic example.

Theres a few officials from some junior footy clubs who sure need a punch in the head over the way they carry on over bad umpiring decisions. Some of the behaviour from a few officials even as low as 9's is deplorable.

As for the old 'umpires need to harden up' excuse for hanging sh*t on umpires, I'm willing to bet my bottom dollar that this is an excuse commonly used by idiots who would would knock back an opportunity to umpire the game themselves in fear of being shown up as morons when they are asked to put their cards on the table.

[eddiesmith]

Pressure

Its why the Weagles get such a good run at home, 40,000 people screaming at you if you pay a free kick against them, hard to overcome for the current soft cocks out there

If the umpire makes a mistake you make him know about it, put the pressure on so they doubt themselves doing it again or think it over and sometimes award one the other way softly. It may not make him change their current decision but its effects are over the remainder of the match

Let him run around thinking they are doing things perfectly and they will **** up even more

[Bring-Back-Powell]

Pressure

Its why the Weagles get such a good run at home, 40,000 people screaming at you if you pay a free kick against them, hard to overcome for the current soft cocks out there

If the umpire makes a mistake you make him know about it, put the pressure on so they doubt themselves doing it again or think it over and sometimes award one the other way softly. It may not make him change their current decision but its effects are over the remainder of the match

Let him run around thinking they are doing things perfectly and they will **** up even more
You're a good promoter of umpring :D

[ManWithNoName]

Why do kids argue with their parents?

[eddiesmith]

Hey what do you know, an umpire changed his mind on Saturday after making a mistake and the player blasting him :eek:

[Quinzate1]

Pressure

Its why the Weagles get such a good run at home, 40,000 people screaming at you if you pay a free kick against them, hard to overcome for the current soft cocks out there

why do Freo get such a 'bad' run with the umps if this is true?

[eddiesmith]

why do Freo get such a 'bad' run with the umps if this is true?
Because their supporters are softer than the players :p

Hell they tried booing a blatant free kick today and it sounded like they were the away team

[bigpapagman]

delete this entire forum.