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- PC -
11th July 2007, 06:49
Yep, its a Roochee story (http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,22053483-21543,00.html)

As a Crows supporter and a South Australian, I really get sick of Crows supporters having a go at Port and Port supporters having a go at the Crows. We don't have to like each other's clubs but at least have some respect."
- Daniel, North Haven on the adelaidenow website

SAINT Neil Craig made the point in private - but there is need to tell the tale out of school. He is the forgiving type, so this message should not cause grief in becoming public.

The Adelaide coach argues it is time to remember we - of the Crows and Power leanings - are South Australians. That we have two proud AFL clubs. And they should be promoted and supported for the ultimate success that brings pride to SA, as illustrated in 1997, 1998 and 2004.

It is a beautiful sermon.

One that many of us - be it media types who have thrived by baiting the rivalry between the two clubs ;) or the two supporter bases that have torn at each other - should reflect upon.

There is a bizarre trait in SA. If the Crows are in crisis, Power supporters rush to talkback lines or internet sites to pick on the carcass like vultures.

And when Port's membership and attendance figures are up for debate, Crows fans - who should have no interest - cannot help themselves.

Their vitriol is no less embarrassing than that of Power supporters. It may be a symptom of 1990 - but by now the fever should have passed.

Last week emphasised Craig's point. How sad is it that a frivolous debate on Port's 1977 heritage jumper consumed more attention than the far more important issue of the SA-based AFL clubs suffocating the last flame for State-of-Origin football?

Heritage Round - when the AFL asks its clubs to dress up to honour a bygone era - has now become, for the conspiracy theory folk, a tool for dividing the non-Victorian clubs.

Adelaide becomes the target of Power fans who say the club, founded in 1991, has no heritage. Heavens, even Crows ambassador Ken "KG" Cunningham said it on radio on Saturday. The Power gets accused of donning a "stigma" by wearing black and white - as if wearing teal does not make the club "Port Adelaide".

And Crows fans, who would never barrack for Port, even against Victorian teams, suggest it hurts the club's marketing strategy?

In Perth, Fremantle donned the East Fremantle jumper. So how do the South Fremantle fans who support the Dockers feel about watching their AFL club wear the WAFL jumper of their derby foes? How did former Dockers captain Peter Bell, a South Fremantle boy, cope?

West Coast used the WA state jumper worn in the first State-of-Origin match in 1977. This was rich. A club that will vote against the regular return of origin then promotes the concept in Heritage Round?

Brisbane wore the Fitzroy jumper. But the AFL did not have the Lions play in Melbourne where this gesture could have been fully appreciated.

And at the MCG, two traditional Victorian clubs - Collingwood and St Kilda - played wearing their 2007 jumpers, not those of the 1970s.

The schoolyard sniping between Crows and Power fans - and that in the clearly divided media - is working against the bigger picture of making SA succeed on a national stage.

Perhaps leading up to the next Showdown - on Saturday, August 4 - we can all grow up.

For the record, Craig thinks Port did the right thing by fighting for the right to honour its '77 SANFL premiership team by wearing that jumper in Heritage Round. Craig does not like Port. But he says he respects Port.

It is a theme worth embracing on both sides of West Lakes Boulevard.

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My personal feeling is that to win a flag the AFC have to beat 15 teams , to have a mindset of being happy beating Port in Showdowns or crowds is the wrong one. Sure its good to stir along the way , but ultimately the AFC have to beat whoever is in front of them this week and next week and in finals.

This notion of supporters being responsible for SA succeeding on a national scale is funny. Who wags the tail? The media or us?

The only issue I will agree is that getting Ports crowds better will help the SANFL through its 2 AFL clubs in getting better deals for game times.

tcsoul
11th July 2007, 08:52
1 team vs the rest. All other clubs are the enemy.

That is like saying that I support all eastern Adelaide football sides in the SANFL. I support Sturt, I dont want to see Norwood do well.

Do all Port Adelaide (Magpies) support the western side of Adelaide teams like the W/WT, West Adelaide or Glenelg? I'm doubting that.

AFL -> Adelaide first then don't care much about the rest

Markthirtytwo
11th July 2007, 09:02
Stop supporting us Daniel. We don't need cream puffs like you telling us to stop bagging the power.

Get in the real world. This is war and tribal. It's not a state thing.

Do you honestly think Carlton supporters in the main want Collingwood to beat a club from outside of Victoria or vica versa?

Just because a certain radio sports so called guru tells us he wants all South Aussie teams to win, what does that tell you about the guy?

Get a grip on reality man for heavens sake before it's too late.

ThePeckers
11th July 2007, 11:09
What a joke, Rucci saying that. Remember when port couldn't fill a stadium for a showdown, and it was the crows fault? NOT to mention his roast. Its filled with cheap shots at Adelaide. He is the one who is the main offender. Not to mention that fact people have hated port since the 1800's :) Its in my blood...or in our water.

Vic Crow
11th July 2007, 11:44
Well, to state the bleeding obvious, to me Adelaide Crows are a football club and one that I love following. I have never lived in Adelaide and have no affinity to South Australia so personally I don't view the Crows as a state team.

Sure, I hate Port Adelaide, though it's probably not as intense a hatred as some other would have because I have read all of the history and that but wasn't caught up in any of it so the feelings are completely different. They are big rivals of the club though and I don't have to get myself in the mindset of hating Port - I really do. I can't say I hate them any more than I hate Collingwood though. 12 other clubs follow close behind on the hate scale while I have a soft spot for the club my Dad used to play for.

writeoff
11th July 2007, 14:39
Well, to state the bleeding obvious, to me Adelaide Crows are a football club and one that I love following. I have never lived in Adelaide and have no affinity to South Australia so personally I don't view the Crows as a state team.

Sure, I hate Port Adelaide, though it's probably not as intense a hatred as some other would have because I have read all of the history and that but wasn't caught up in any of it so the feelings are completely different. They are big rivals of the club though and I don't have to get myself in the mindset of hating Port - I really do. I can't say I hate them any more than I hate Collingwood though. 12 other clubs follow close behind on the hate scale while I have a soft spot for the club my Dad used to play for.
Why do you support the Crows VC if you've never lived here and your dad played for another team at some point?

But back on topic - I don't hate the Power and barracked for them in the 2004 GF because:
1. They deserved it (as the Crows do this year)
2. I didn't want Brisbane to win another one - even though I supported them in every GF against Collingwood.
3. But most importantly when they won alot of people in this state were happier. Going to work was better, walking down the street people were smiling and complete strangers would talk to you.

Having said this if the Crows could only win 2 games a year I would choose the Showdowns. As a long suffering Glenelg supporter who watch Port Adelaide win every GF they ever played against the Bays I could never support them in the H&A rounds and only in a GF if I didn't want the other team to win. However I was glad to see the old prison bars jumper for heritage round and hope it is worn each year for this particular round.

AAMI
11th July 2007, 14:46
3. But most importantly when they won people in this state were happier.

Who said? I certainly wasn't.

writeoff
11th July 2007, 15:04
Who said? I certainly wasn't.
Editted for your benefit (and to make it more accurate).

Redlegs14
11th July 2007, 17:52
The biggest joke is that he still refers to Neil Craig as Saint Neil.

All this does is remind everyone of his childish traits, and any respect he may garner as a serious journalist goes right out the window.

showdownhero
11th July 2007, 20:16
The biggest joke is that he still refers to Neil Craig as Saint Neil.

All this does is remind everyone of his childish traits, and any respect he may garner as a serious journalist goes right out the window.
Comrade Peter? ... I don't even know anyone from the Port Board but Pete seems to get a mention in the Roast every second week wtf is up with that?!?!

RoosterLad
11th July 2007, 20:20
I ****ing hate you Port, **** off.

No chance of me jumping into bed with those filthy *****.

Seanason
11th July 2007, 20:24
I ****ing hate you Port, **** off.

No chance of me jumping into bed with those filthy *****.

Well said. **** the ****ing ****ers.

Mad Dog
11th July 2007, 20:37
I ****ing hate you Port, **** off.

No chance of me jumping into bed with those filthy *****.

word.

I'd barrack for the Bin Laden First XVIII if they were playing Pt. Power.

Too much water under too many bridges.

It's either in you or it's not.

Even KG "we're all South Australians" Cunningham privately hates them.

FFS - do you reckon a Collingwood supporter would ever barrack for Essendon in a GF against a non-Vic team ?

No !.........they's rather plunge a rusty fork into their eye and twist.



Barrack for the other SA team ?.....never.......and I'm sure the boot is on the other foot for any self respecting Pt Power follower.

Seanason
11th July 2007, 23:00
word.

I'd barrack for the Bin Laden First XVIII if they were playing Pt. Power.

Too much water under too many bridges.

It's either in you or it's not.

Even KG "we're all South Australians" Cunningham privately hates them.

FFS - do you reckon a Collingwood supporter would ever barrack for Essendon in a GF against a non-Vic team ?

No !.........they's rather plunge a rusty fork into their eye and twist.



Barrack for the other SA team ?.....never.......and I'm sure the boot is on the other foot for any self respecting Pt Power follower.

A self respecting Port Power Supporter? Your 'avin a larf:p:D:thumbsu:

Vic Crow
11th July 2007, 23:22
Why do you support the Crows VC if you've never lived here and your dad played for another team at some point?
I have good taste.

Also, my Dad obviously knew a fair few guys from his days in the VFL. He knew Danny Hughes and was particularly good friends with Scott Lee. I started following the Crows from then because my old man wasn't really following anyone at the time - I don't reckon he'd be alone after only been out of the system for a few years.

FFS - do you reckon a Collingwood supporter would ever barrack for Essendon in a GF against a non-Vic team ?

Actually, interestingly I got a tough time at school in 02 when we played Collingwood in the Prelim because they were the only Vic side left and there was a massive campaign led by the state government to get everyone to go for Collingwood. I didn't think much of it coz I didn't think anyone would actually fall for it, but most did. Everyone seriously jumped on Collingwood.

As I recall, 02 was the first time it got to four teams remaining and only one was Vic. Since 02 it was never an issue because I think Victoria got used to mediocrity.

Crow-mo
12th July 2007, 02:37
nicely said Mad Dog, though I also favour the RoosterGun's succinct summation also. ;)

Mr Magoo
12th July 2007, 10:58
Why do you support the Crows VC if you've never lived here and your dad played for another team at some point?

But back on topic - I don't hate the Power and barracked for them in the 2004 GF because:
1. They deserved it (as the Crows do this year)
2. I didn't want Brisbane to win another one - even though I supported them in every GF against Collingwood.
3. But most importantly when they won alot of people in this state were happier. Going to work was better, walking down the street people were smiling and complete strangers would talk to you.

Having said this if the Crows could only win 2 games a year I would choose the Showdowns. As a long suffering Glenelg supporter who watch Port Adelaide win every GF they ever played against the Bays I could never support them in the H&A rounds and only in a GF if I didn't want the other team to win. However I was glad to see the old prison bars jumper for heritage round and hope it is worn each year for this particular round.


Spot on & insert long time suffering Glenelg supporter with just about any of the other SANFL clubs & that's the reason a lot of football supporters in South Australia won't barrack for or follow Port in the AFL. But according to a lot of AFC supporters Port are a new team/club ? How can that be?