PDA

View Full Version : 2. Ricky Dyson


Pages : 1 [2]

bombersno1
6 Apr 2008, 20:48
i think he has until round 10 to prove himself then if he isnt holding a regular spot then he will be out of the team and probably not on the dons list for 2009. my thoughs any ways, any one else.

Round 10..____ off. He has till Round 6 and that is being generous. Dyson's problem is he is soft as butter and his kicking is pathetic most times!

HFF_07
6 Apr 2008, 21:00
Round 10..____ off. He has till Round 6 and that is being generous. Dyson's problem is he is soft as butter and his kicking is pathetic most times!

i dont think so, i wreckon he is a good kick, a long penetrative kick that the bombers are lacking from a midfielder, he dominated against the reigning premiers and ok i wqill admit his consistancy needs to improve but he has lots to offer.

Windas_Magic
6 Apr 2008, 21:12
I'd give him the whole season unless he playes a few bad games on the trot. Ricky is going to be given and opportunity by Knights and by seasons end, we will know where exactly his career is. He hasnt been playing bad football

donsman4eva
6 Apr 2008, 21:13
Key word NAB Cup! Richard Tambling dominated a NAB cup game. Has done squat all in the first 3 rounds, and has done squat in his previous years. At the least he doesn't deserve a starting spot, bench I'd cope with that, as frankly he is soft as butter half the time!
Yeah it was NAB cup, not AFL. but he has to start somewhere. The NAB cup is there to develop players, and thats what happened with Dyson. He hasnt had a terrible first 3 games. Sure two of the three are sub par, and everyone keeps raving on about consistency. But how can he get consistency if he is in the AFL one week and VFL the next? So its time we wither give him an uninterrupted run of games to see how he fares, or just drop him to Bendigo, only to return in case of injury. Personally I'd like to go with the first option, as I think he can become a good midfielder.

Slattery_20
6 Apr 2008, 21:25
DIdn't think he was that bad last night

kelvin_sheedy
6 Apr 2008, 21:26
I'd give him the whole season unless he playes a few bad games on the trot. Ricky is going to be given and opportunity by Knights and by seasons end, we will know where exactly his career is. He hasnt been playing bad football

:confused:

Well it hasn't been good.

If he can't string a couple of 20+ possession games in the next 3-4 weeks then we have to seriously give others a go.

bombersno1
6 Apr 2008, 21:47
i dont think so, i wreckon he is a good kick, a long penetrative kick that the bombers are lacking from a midfielder, he dominated against the reigning premiers and ok i wqill admit his consistancy needs to improve but he has lots to offer.

Yes he is a penetrating kick..straight to the opposition. It is too inconsistent (kicking) to be relied on. And his defensive side of his game is not fantastic as he goes MIA half the time when the pressure is applied.

bombersno1
6 Apr 2008, 21:50
Yeah it was NAB cup, not AFL. but he has to start somewhere. The NAB cup is there to develop players, and thats what happened with Dyson. He hasnt had a terrible first 3 games. Sure two of the three are sub par, and everyone keeps raving on about consistency. But how can he get consistency if he is in the AFL one week and VFL the next? So its time we wither give him an uninterrupted run of games to see how he fares, or just drop him to Bendigo, only to return in case of injury. Personally I'd like to go with the first option, as I think he can become a good midfielder.

He has had 3 games and has only had one above average game and my dead dog could have had a good game in Round 1..we won easily. I see a better indicator of a player when the chips are down and frankly when the chips are down where is Dyson? He is nowhere! I rather him in Bendigo to return if a injury occurs. Also I am unconvinced he is a fulltime midfielder!

GoldenboyHird_5
6 Apr 2008, 22:15
He has had 3 games and has only had one above average game and my dead dog could have had a good game in Round 1..we won easily. I see a better indicator of a player when the chips are down and frankly when the chips are down where is Dyson? He is nowhere! I rather him in Bendigo to return if a injury occurs. Also I am unconvinced he is a fulltime midfielder!
I recall last year you had some partiularly controversial opinions right?

Anyway, you say when the chips were down he doesn't stand up???

Go to Windy Hill and grab yourself a tape of the Geelong game and perhaps that biased opinion of yours will waver slightly when you see that Dyson was clearly one of our best while being confronted by an absolute monster team;)

bombersno1
6 Apr 2008, 22:31
I recall last year you had some partiularly controversial opinions right?

Anyway, you say when the chips were down he doesn't stand up???

Go to Windy Hill and grab yourself a tape of the Geelong game and perhaps that biased opinion of yours will waver slightly when you see that Dyson was clearly one of our best while being confronted by an absolute monster team;)

He was only just solid against Geelong, yes probably the best of the very bad bunch, but still it wasn't a great perfomance. His defensive side is frankly not good enough. And his kicking is hit and miss- how many times does he shank kicks, it is very hard to watch him half the time as 3 out of 5 kicks go to the opposition.

GoldenboyHird_5
6 Apr 2008, 22:35
Well it was clearly better than most of them Port bunch in the GF last year

bombersno1
6 Apr 2008, 22:40
What does that mean? Dyson is only mediocre at best. Look I am happy for him in the side- but not in the starting side- he should be a depth player.

lamaros
6 Apr 2008, 22:45
You guys are ____ing idiots.

Seriously.

You need to watch the damn games and look at what happens now, not what happened last year or the year before.

Dyson has improved his work ethic notably, he has improved his kicking a bit. He is a long kick and can kick at goal (pretty much all he could do in the past was pop up and kick a long goal then go missing again, yet to kick one this year but certainly can do it and will get some sooner or later). He has shown himself to be someone willing to put in this year and learn the new game plan and get more out of himself. He deserves the chance to show if he can do it. Writing him off before that is just stupid; he's here for 2 years, why the ____ would you want to waste him in Bendigo when he has the chance to really lift this year and show himself. That's just stupidity.

HFF_07
9 Apr 2008, 19:51
what is his position, where is he best suited to playing,

thoughts.....

loopy_cam
9 Apr 2008, 23:41
what is his position, where is he best suited to playing,

thoughts.....

Half back flank/Wing

hulld
10 Apr 2008, 12:03
wing for sure

Bombs Away
10 Apr 2008, 12:55
I dont think he is in our best side, have continually said that but think he has to be given a chance. We are implementing a new team strategy and he should be given a crack at it now while in its infancy stages. If he doesnt cut the mustard then bendigo for the rest of your contract unless we get injuries. If no improvement by round 6 then to be one of the first gone. He also has to play on wing as he hasnt got the skills to play HFF and not the defensive side to his game to play HBF. If he starts on the right wing he can use his left foot to bring the ball down the centre corridoor.

hulld
10 Apr 2008, 13:41
he fits perfectly into our game plan. his new found confidence allows him to run and carry the ball at pace. whilst his left foot is not always perfect, but when he hits it sweetly he is as good a kick as we have got. have a look at the pass he drilled to mcveigh just before half time.

he is in our best 22 for sure

HFF_07
10 Apr 2008, 17:49
I think we need to give him more responsibility in his game. use him as the link man, give him the kick in duties, i know he isnt the greatest kick but at least he can see that it is important to use the ball well everytime you get it otherwise you pay.

Ricky fits perfectly into the game plan as he is quick with pace to burn and a long kick on him, as people like to use, he is a 60 - 70+ m player.

So let him have a decent run in the seniors and see how he goes in one postition and then work with him from their.

bombersno1
14 Apr 2008, 17:24
I think we need to give him more responsibility in his game. use him as the link man, give him the kick in duties, i know he isnt the greatest kick but at least he can see that it is important to use the ball well everytime you get it otherwise you pay.

Ricky fits perfectly into the game plan as he is quick with pace to burn and a long kick on him, as people like to use, he is a 60 - 70+ m player.

So let him have a decent run in the seniors and see how he goes in one postition and then work with him from their.

Kick in duties..surely you must be ____ing kidding..how many goals do you want to give up? I am happy to give him till Round 8, but if he doesn't string a few good games together he can play for Bendigo!

lemon chicken
14 Apr 2008, 18:24
I think we need to give him more responsibility in his game. use him as the link man, give him the kick in duties, i know he isnt the greatest kick but at least he can see that it is important to use the ball well everytime you get it otherwise you pay.

Ricky fits perfectly into the game plan as he is quick with pace to burn and a long kick on him, as people like to use, he is a 60 - 70+ m player.

So let him have a decent run in the seniors and see how he goes in one postition and then work with him from their.

Yeah Knights gave him kick in duties last year in the VFL. ____ing disaster! Training is for improving your kicking not match day.

lamaros
14 Apr 2008, 21:48
Kick in duties..surely you must be ____ing kidding..how many goals do you want to give up? I am happy to give him till Round 8, but if he doesn't string a few good games together he can play for Bendigo!

His last three games have been better than a few others in the first 22.

bombersno1
14 Apr 2008, 22:54
His last three games have been better than a few others in the first 22.

They still haven't been good games!

lamaros
14 Apr 2008, 23:19
They still haven't been good games!

Well, hardly anyone had a good game against Geelong, but he was one of our best. He was servicable against Carlton, and I thought he had a pretty decent game against the Bulldogs. I think he's played better in every successive game he's played (the same goes for Stanton).

He's get to have a really good game where he's in our best 5, but I think he's probably been in our top half for the last three.

Hopefully he can have a 25+ touch, 2 goal game this week and every week from now on.

donsman4eva
14 Apr 2008, 23:28
Well, hardly anyone had a good game against Geelong, but he was one of our best. He was servicable against Carlton, and I thought he had a pretty decent game against the Bulldogs. I think he's played better in every successive game he's played (the same goes for Stanton).

He's get to have a really good game where he's in our best 5, but I think he's probably been in our top half for the last three.

Hopefully he can have a 25+ touch, 2 goal game this week and every week from now on.
Even though im his #1 supporter, even I think thats a but much. If he plays like that every week, he will win the brownlow. He needs to be getting 18 touches a week and work on his defensive pressure. He does that, I think every Essendon supporter will be happy. Any more is a bonus.

lamaros
15 Apr 2008, 00:17
I forgot to put in the :D:D:Ds

donsman4eva
15 Apr 2008, 21:31
I forgot to put in the :D:D:Ds
Oh, well that makes much more sense now:D:D:D

MarkJohnson#1
15 Apr 2008, 21:45
Rick has considerably lifted from previous years and is currently in our best 22. Still got a long way to go but if you aren't happy with the steps he has taken you are clearly one eyed. Confidence is a big thing for Rick and the more he develops the better he will be. Has another year after this to prove his worth. :thumbsu:

loopy_cam
15 Apr 2008, 23:52
81% disposal efficiency against the Dogs.

Pawtucket Patriot
25 Apr 2008, 19:09
Played well in a very ordinary team today.

hulld
25 Apr 2008, 19:49
using him as a defensive midfielder is a mistake. when he gets the ball things happen

the_unit
25 Apr 2008, 19:51
let the kid run thats what he does best

kelvin_sheedy
25 Apr 2008, 22:39
Not up to it and never will be.

He has a pea heart.

Runs quickly but never seems to run away from anyone or chase anyone down.

Has a good kick but never seems to hit the target.

Has a fairly good engine but is always a metre or two behind the play or his opponent.

I'm sick of this joker wearing the red and black. :thumbsd:

loopy_cam
25 Apr 2008, 23:15
I think he is looking good.

Just needs consistency.

kelvin_sheedy
25 Apr 2008, 23:17
I think he is looking good.

Just needs consistency.

F##@# Me. :confused:

loopy_cam
25 Apr 2008, 23:28
F##@# Me. :confused:

His kicking is improving and he is getting his fair share of the ball.

kelvin_sheedy
25 Apr 2008, 23:44
His kicking is improving and he is getting his fair share of the ball.

Averaging 16 disposals a game for a midfielder is poor.

His opponent today in Pendlebury had 30+.

His opponent last week had 20 and 1 goal while he had 11.

He is constantly getting beaten by his opponent and giving the side nothing.

Windas_Magic
26 Apr 2008, 00:46
Ricky has improved a lot from last year and is finally getting a full opportunity but to be honest, i don't see anything special in him. He should definetely get 16-22 games this year and he has worked his ass off but what he has been doing isn't enough. I really hope he proves me wrong because he has come a long way since last year

hulld
26 Apr 2008, 01:19
he didn't play on pendlebury for the majority of the game

lemon chicken
26 Apr 2008, 02:08
he didn't play on pendlebury for the majority of the game

Who did he play on then?

GoldenboyHird_5
26 Apr 2008, 02:55
Averaging 16 disposals a game for a midfielder is poor.

His opponent today in Pendlebury had 30+.

His opponent last week had 20 and 1 goal while he had 11.

He is constantly getting beaten by his opponent and giving the side nothing.
You absolute idiot:mad:

Stanton was the f__er who was 'playing with' pendlebury.

Just don't even comment on Dyson, we all know you have a personal vendetta against him. What has he done, killed one of your friends?

Dyson was good today.

lemon chicken
26 Apr 2008, 11:38
You absolute idiot:mad:

Stanton was the f__er who was 'playing with' pendlebury.

Just don't even comment on Dyson, we all know you have a personal vendetta against him. What has he done, killed one of your friends?

Dyson was good today.

Worst post I have read in my life. :thumbsd:

Stanton played as a half forward for pretty much the entire match was tagged by the young kid Cook.

Dyson and Houli were rotated on Pendlebury and then towards the end of match Dyson was on Rhys Shaw. When Pendlebury got leather poisoning in the third qtr Dyson was on him.

Ricky was flogged by every opponent he had. Go watch the replay come back and admit you were wrong.

kelvin_sheedy
26 Apr 2008, 11:47
Worst post I have read in my life. :thumbsd:

Stanton played as a half forward for pretty much the entire match was tagged by the young kid Cook.

Dyson and Houli were rotated on Pendlebury and then towards the end of match Dyson was on Rhys Shaw. When Pendlebury got leather poisoning in the third qtr Dyson was on him.

Ricky was flogged by every opponent he had. Go watch the replay come back and admit you were wrong.

I was just about to write exactly that. :thumbsu:

F#$# me.............. people seem to think Dyson had a good game because he didn't touch it in the first half, was invisible and thus no one saw him make a mistake.

He kicked a goal from 50 in the last and all of a sudden he was ok. :confused:

hulld
26 Apr 2008, 12:33
Who did he play on then?

he started on davis and then spent time on ben johnson

GoDons
26 Apr 2008, 13:19
Wasn't our worst yesterday.

He gave us a lot more than a few others in the second half, was awful quiet in the first though.

TheDon35
27 Apr 2008, 16:46
Wasn't our worse but you would have really stunk up pretty bad if you were.

Very ordinary and needs to lift or bugger off to Bendigo.

fatgutz
27 Apr 2008, 16:48
bombers are shit~ we got no talent at Bendigo either! i hope Peter Jackson gets the arse at the end of this year, if not before!

hulld
27 Apr 2008, 21:58
the reason bendigo are bad is because their vfl listed players are terrible compared to teams like sandy and coburg

lemon chicken
29 Jun 2008, 22:43
Needs to be traded for a packet of frozen hot dogs coz I cant see how we can draft 7-8 kids next year and keep this bloke on the list. Knights you tried, it didnt work, lets just move on.

JennaJ
29 Jun 2008, 22:44
Ricky has to go at years end, looked like he was going to a talent when he debuted although very soft but alot of kids are when they start. To me he has really gone backwards in the last 2 years. And who at the club gave him the number 2 is a disgrace

bombersno1
29 Jun 2008, 22:47
Whoever gave him a 2year deal was worse!

Pevers-Legend
30 Jun 2008, 14:47
He is a lazy passenger.

He needs to look at McPHee and Hille from yesterdays game to see why he is so crap and how much he needs to lift.

Monfries is another example of what can happen if you bust a gut.

marcuz
30 Jun 2008, 15:12
Another wasted talent, i was a fan of this kid but he lacks the drive to make it.

He's done.

Centurion
30 Jun 2008, 16:13
Another wasted talent, i was a fan of this kid but he lacks the drive to make it.

He's done.

I'm inclined to give him the rest of the year at least, but right now judging on what he dishes up when his under the pump, i agree as well with your comment.

kelvin_sheedy
30 Jun 2008, 17:12
Done and dusted.

Time to cut our losses and delist at the end of the year.

Pay him out and and it will allow us to keep both Mal and Rama on the list.

Slattery_20
30 Jun 2008, 18:32
No point keeping Mal on, IMHO, but agree. He's got next week to prove me wrong though, I'm not hopeful

loopy_cam
30 Jun 2008, 19:22
No point keeping Mal on, IMHO, but agree. He's got next week to prove me wrong though, I'm not hopeful

Especially considering the lack of a game.

Maybe give him two weeks. ;)

TheDon35
1 Jul 2008, 07:57
All depends on who's available.

IMO he's been given plenty of chances already. I'd much rather see Houli, Hislop and even Atkinson getting games into them before Dyson. If these guys aren't available, yep give him enough rope and see what he does.

CarlosHernandez
1 Jul 2008, 09:33
He's just come back after a month on the injured list. Definitely needs another week or two before being dropped.

bombersno1
1 Jul 2008, 13:36
He's just come back after a month on the injured list. Definitely needs another week or two before being dropped.

He was awful. He needs to play VFL for 4-5 weeks and AVERAGE 30 possessions a game with at least 25 effective ones. Until he does that he is not going to cut it at AFL level!

daffo
1 Jul 2008, 14:05
Have never really liked him. Thinks his quick and tries to run away from his opposition, but gets caught. Isn't up to AFL level, if he was, he would of already showed it.

hirdlloydy
20 Jul 2008, 12:31
everytime he had the chance to catch a player from behind, dyson either lost his feet or was to slow to catch the player, on about 3 occasions in the last qtr he lost his feet while chasing and gave his oppenent a free run, why on earth would a player give up and not apply any pressure?. he is a waste, all the youngsters such as houli, jetta, myers, lonergan, reimers have all improved and gone past him whereas he remains the same and has not shown any improvement at all.

HighettBomber
26 Jul 2008, 19:55
Was very good today, he ran hard and won quite a few clearances. Hopefully he can keep it up and leave a few people here with egg on their faces.

bomba4eva
27 Jul 2008, 00:53
Well done Ricky. Keep it up:thumbsu:

Sam the RAMA fan
27 Jul 2008, 01:19
I'd seen him walking around the dome at half-time one game in season 07 (in the suit), so I grabbed him on the shoulder and said:
"You're not as bad as what people say you are..."
I couldn't be happier today against the Pies...he was ace :D

dirtywhitepacker
27 Jul 2008, 14:27
I'd seen him walking around the dome at half-time one game in season 07 (in the suit), so I grabbed him on the shoulder and said:
"You're not as bad as what people say you are..."
I couldn't be happier today against the Pies...he was ace :D

Definitely one of his better games. But I can only imagine what Ricky thought when you said that to him. Especially last year I don't think many people had made up their minds on him, and I don't think he'd be reading through BigFooty to see what people say about him. He was probably confused and upset thinking to himself 'What did that chick mean? People think I'm bad? Gheez... I had no idea people think this of me... What if I am bad? What if I don't make it? Oh god, I'm done, I have no hope".

This is one theory why he had a poor start to the '08 season. It's all your fault... Haha.

Sam the RAMA fan
27 Jul 2008, 14:35
Definitely one of his better games. But I can only imagine what Ricky thought when you said that to him. Especially last year I don't think many people had made up their minds on him, and I don't think he'd be reading through BigFooty to see what people say about him. He was probably confused and upset thinking to himself 'What did that guy mean? People think I'm bad? Gheez... I had no idea people think this of me... What if I am bad? What if I don't make it? Oh god, I'm done, I have no hope".

This is one theory why he had a poor start to the '08 season. It's all your fault... Haha.

Chick :D

You would think the word would get around,
not only that..they would hear abuse from spectators in the crowd from time to time..
but ok...it is my fault ;)

dirtywhitepacker
27 Jul 2008, 23:58
Chick :D

You would think the word would get around,
not only that..they would hear abuse from spectators in the crowd from time to time..
but ok...it is my fault ;)

My apologies, I guess it's my male chauvinistic view of the football world...

The Dustbin
28 Jul 2008, 11:10
Good game by Rick. Let's see if he can back it up two weeks in a row before we get too carried away.

Centurion
28 Jul 2008, 11:44
Good game by Rick. Let's see if he can back it up two weeks in a row before we get too carried away.

Exactly Dusty.

eth-dog
28 Jul 2008, 19:27
Good game by Rick. Let's see if he can back it up two weeks in a row before we get too carried away.
well said Dusty, can't say it better :thumbsu:

hulld
29 Jul 2008, 11:41
thought he was very influential in the first quarter

Windas_Magic
10 Aug 2008, 22:00
Depth player at best.

TheDon35
13 Aug 2008, 17:11
For someone of his ability, he's had more than enough opportunities and hasn't taken them.

High Ryder
14 Aug 2008, 22:12
Has been a good contributer in the last month, people on these boards are way too critical sometimes.

GoDons
15 Aug 2008, 01:04
Has been a good contributer in the last month, people on these boards are way too critical sometimes.

Dead right.

Was particularly handy in the middle against the Pies.

He remains a depth player, but he's not hopeless.

hulld
15 Aug 2008, 15:06
his last month has been satifactory although he'll be battling to stay in the side next year when/if everyone is fit. he just continually teases us, needs to grab his opportunities with 2 hands

kelvin_sheedy
15 Aug 2008, 16:58
Dead right.

Was particularly handy in the middle against the Pies.

He remains a depth player, but he's not hopeless.

Wrong.

Been very very poor. Couldn't hold the ball in in a number of times he was tackled - no core strength. Can't tackle to save his life.

Missed handballs, targets and has no idea what to do with the ball.

Old man Braun ran away from him to kick clinching goal.

No surprise that when he's been given a greater responsibility the last two weeks that we've been very poor in the middle.

GoDons
15 Aug 2008, 19:12
Wrong.

Been very very poor. Couldn't hold the ball in in a number of times he was tackled - no core strength. Can't tackle to save his life.

Missed handballs, targets and has no idea what to do with the ball.

Old man Braun ran away from him to kick clinching goal.

No surprise that when he's been given a greater responsibility the last two weeks that we've been very poor in the middle.

You're a man of extremes, Kelvin.

I disagree on his core strength, his ability to stand up in a contest has improved out of sight.

I'll agree on his chasing and tackling, that area of his game isn't up to it.

His disposal cops more crap than it deserves. Too many people on here remember the mistake and forget the passes on to teammates' chests.

His decision making is ordinary, but again, not as bad as some like to think.

And the poor midfield form over the past few weeks hasn't coincided with Dyson's greater responsibility in the middle. Dyson was a driving force through the middle of the ground against Collingwood and was second to only David Hille in clearances.

I'm not arguing he's a star, I don't think he's in our best 22, but he's a reasonable back up option.

kelvin_sheedy
15 Aug 2008, 20:12
You're a man of extremes, Kelvin.

I disagree on his core strength, his ability to stand up in a contest has improved out of sight.

I'll agree on his chasing and tackling, that area of his game isn't up to it.

His disposal cops more crap than it deserves. Too many people on here remember the mistake and forget the passes on to teammates' chests.

His decision making is ordinary, but again, not as bad as some like to think.

And the poor midfield form over the past few weeks hasn't coincided with Dyson's greater responsibility in the middle. Dyson was a driving force through the middle of the ground against Collingwood and was second to only David Hille in clearances.

I'm not arguing he's a star, I don't think he's in our best 22, but he's a reasonable back up option.

His core strength might have improved but it's still not at league level.

He can only make good decisions and dispose of it correctly when in the clear by metres. Anything under any sort of pressure and he struggles.

A reasonable backup? Not for me. I'd rather someone with less skill who'll go out there and bust his gut and lay tackles(Slattery). At least you have a skill to work with. With Dyson you can't really do anything and your guaranteed his man will have a better game.

Crimsons
16 Aug 2008, 23:44
Career high posessions today ... good on him for trying :thumbsu:

Phat Toni
18 Aug 2008, 17:03
Sorry guys I know this probably isn't worth a new thread but I must take my hat off to Mr Ricky Dyson. I thought he was fantastic Saturday and has had a reasonable month of footy. I have been a staunch supporter of the 'Please don’t pick Ricky Dyson' club for some time but I think the time has come where Ricky has turned the corner.

Good on you Ricky keep it up:thumbsu:

Bombers42
23 Aug 2008, 18:49
yep and essendon are really focusing on him to, i expect he will be in our future structure

kelvin_sheedy
31 Aug 2008, 23:06
Had a few chances today to come across and put his body on the line and chop of the ball to the forwards. Didn't do it.

Stick a fork in him he's done.

The Dustbin
1 Sep 2008, 17:12
Stick a fork in him he's done.

Agree. :thumbsu:

daffo
4 Sep 2008, 14:30
Not a team player, doesn't tackle and isn't accountable. His had his chances, delist him now.

Slattery_20
6 Sep 2008, 16:53
Depth player
For now, at least
Although he does have his odd good games. Irritatingly so.

lemon chicken
7 Sep 2008, 00:00
Package him up with Lovett and hope we can get a first round pick. Will have zero trade value next year. We can get Skipworth with Pick 150 to keep some depth.

Slattery_20
7 Sep 2008, 00:41
I'm thinking Lovett will get us an upgrade from a second to a first. That's what I'm hoping for anyway.

Don't know if it'd be worthwhile even trying to trade Rick, but he might get us something meagre from a club not planning to use all their picks
Even if it's a 5th to 4th round upgrade or something - we didn't expect all that much from the 40s picks we got for Solly, both of them turned out alright

yaco55
9 Sep 2008, 03:43
Dyson made some improvement this year but I have still have 2 areas of concern.

1) He doesn't stand up when tackled and thus creates too many turnovers by hand
2) He still has games where he completely goes missing during games.

DaSawx
14 Sep 2008, 11:42
Will never be more than an OK 27-35 man

beev
20 Sep 2008, 09:21
He has to go. He has had more than enough chances.

We wouldn't get much for him, maybe a 4th round pick, but if we trade for Kerr we will need those later picks.

He turns the ball over too much by foot. He kicks the most helicopters of anyone in the AFL, and also handballs to teamates who have nowhere to go, which isn't good for our style of play.

The thing with Dyson is that he is never going to hurt any opposition teams. His disposal lets him down and he doesn't break the lines like Houli, Dempsey, Winderlich etc.

smcateer
25 Sep 2008, 17:35
Article (http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/news.asp?nid=6090)

Is it just me or do you get the impression TSB and Ricky's parents voted quite a few times on this one.

5.31 :confused:? No way known he's a pass.

It's arguable whether or not he'll ever be a player (we'll have to trust TSB's judgement on that one), but he's not there yet. I watched every game this year and only in the second West Coast match did he show even the slightest bit of promise.

P.S. This isn't a bash - he's just not a pass ... yet.

loopy_cam
25 Sep 2008, 18:27
Vs Geelong
Vs Collingwood
Vs Adelaide
were repectable games.

Slattery_20
26 Sep 2008, 13:39
I think he was given a different role to previous years, playing as a real midfielder rather than goal-kicking winger/forward flank.
He had 3 or 4 good weeks. Very very good in that Collingwood game (the 2nd), especially in the 1st quarter. Showed actual composure and thought through his kicks.

Rick's problem will be that the way he's playing now would be fine if he were an 18, 19 year old. He should be old enough & seasoned enough to play at a consistent level

That said, I'd prefer inconsistent to consistently poor.