3. Scott Gumbleton

[DaSawx]

Gun.

Discuss

[Merv Neagle]

There has been a lot of conjecture amongst our supporters whether we should have taken Selwood before Gumby.

He hasn't had much luck since he came over and has a long way to go both physically and mentally

BUT, he is a massive talent and the type of player that could become an out and out superstar.

With some luck and natural improvement he and Neagle could become ready made replacements for Lloyd and Lucas.

Be patient, he might just be something very special

[ant555]

The thing i like about him is even on his bad days he gets to 10 or more marking contests and is in there competing. He doesnt just hang around the forward line and not get near the footy. When the ball comes inside our 50 , more times than not he is somewhere near or in the contest. Once he gets his fitness and build to the right level he will be marking 10 or more times a game. he has already shown on his better days that when the ball sticks he is a very dangerous forward.He reads the play well unlike a certain other forward we have in waiting.
He has struggled with a bit of knee soreness early on and then a serious hammy which have held him back a bit but be ready as he is very good.

[gussy6isagun]

Just remember that not many of us rated Paddy Ryder last year . Now look at him, he is developing beautifully.

[KING-JAMES]

Just remember that not many of us rated Paddy Ryder last year . Now look at him, he is developing beautifully.

The stupid ones didnt. I love Gumby, infact i wanted him over everyone last year, and still feel that way. He is an exceptional talent that will improve as he puts on muscle and gets fitter. I think i might get the #3 on my jumper in a few seasons time, if he sticks with it.

[Daytripper]

he could be the next Jonathan Brown :D
or he could be the next Josh Kennedy. :(

[hulld]

he is already above kennedy.

it is a good thing that he hasn't played seniors this year. look at what has happened to kennedy and hansen in the past 2 years. if you rush kids they will suffer. kepler is another example of this

we drafted hislop, houli, davey and reimers who all will be good midfielders in the future. we can afford to go without selwood. there aren't any quality KPP in the 30-70 range.

[Jono B]

*cough* Westhoff*cough* but no-one expected that.

[Tambu]

Gumbleton at CHF
Ryder at CHB

:)

[hulld]

i'm liking that tambu. with laycock showing good signs in the ruck hopefully we leave paddy in defence.

whilst gumby has all the attributes needed to play in the toughest position in footy

[matty lloyd the champ]

really glad we haven't played him in the seniors yet.
Unlike pagan who has rushed gibbs into playing every match this season and plaed him in the leadership group before the start of the season, we have bided our time playing gumbleton in the VFL.
Gibbs is apparently in doubt for this weeks match and seems to need a rest after so many games this year. His confidence must be pretty low after his average start ths season

[Bomberland06]

When do ya reckon gumby will get to play his first game sometime this season or wait until next year after having a year in VFL.

[windyhill]

Needs more muscle, big summer coming up. We will be selling memberships off his back in 1-2 years.

[Bombs Away]

Our very own Wayne Carey without all the off-field baggage, by 2009 we will all see how good this bloke is.

[bluesforever]

I was down in Bendigo last week visiting family and went to see the Bombers and the Bullants and I reckon this guy just has a presence, he is just one of those players that you know will be very very good. Within 2 to 3 years this guy will be a machine.

[David_Hilley#19]

I certainly agree with what is being said. He may be a gun in the future. But i thinkit is time we start using our first pick on a skillful smaller midfeilder. In the recent past we have used our first draft pick on tals like kepler paddy gumby and bolton. We must start getting some midfeilders.
Opinions???

[bomberbilly]

spoke with some family friends of gumbletons yesterday at the footy and they said he is just the most focused kid you will ever meet and he is going to be something special. the hamstring injury really set him back but I think he will play a senior game before the season is over just to get a taste. From what i have seen at bendigo he has a great footy brain, I cant wait for him to bulk up. he is going to be great, I am already on the bandwagon and bought a #3 guernsey.

[hulld]

don't lie billy. you were a aaron henneman fan weren't you......

[windyhill]

Debut getting closer.

[ant555]

I certainly agree with what is being said. He may be a gun in the future. But i thinkit is time we start using our first pick on a skillful smaller midfeilder. In the recent past we have used our first draft pick on tals like kepler paddy gumby and bolton. We must start getting some midfeilders.
Opinions???

Would think this is the forum for discussing Gumbleton rather than opinions on who we should take/should have taken in drafts ;)

[bomberbilly]

don't lie billy. you were a aaron henneman fan weren't you......

haha nah certainly wasn't, i thought he was harshly treated though. I got my gumby jumper 3 weeks ago at the bombershop. he will be a gem!

[David_Hilley#19]

Gumbleton should not play this season. If he is going to be any chance of fulfilling his great expectations then he must have a good pre-season so he can bulk up get fitter and sharpen up his skills. Also he must have a good game in the reserves to get his confidence up.

[retroparty]

I think Gumbleton needs to play at least one game this year. For the experience of an AFL game. We don't want him coming in next year with no confidence when playing infront of a big crowd

[DaSawx]

I doubt there'll be much difference, whenever he debuts he's unlikely to be a main focal point

[jnash196]

I doubt there'll be much difference, whenever he debuts he's unlikely to be a main focal point

This week

I was watching the VFL the other week and I just notced that he is a lot smaller than I thought he was. In my head I imagined that he was built like Jono Brown but he is still quite thin. Hopefully he will build on muscle and become the next Jono Brown

[windyhill]

Debut getting closer.

BANG !

[mathew ollaik]

I wonder how the forward line is going to work this week. Three talls. I would like Gumby and Lloyd to play deep and Lucas playing at chf. Also, Welsh playing a defensive role on McCloed.

[GoDons]

Gumby is never going to be a Jonathan Brown type CHF mainly because his body is distinctly different from Jonathan Brown. Jonathan Brown was a similar size to what he is now when he was 18, he was very Hawkins like. It's rare you see a skinny kid become a giant bull.

I'd think he'll be much more like the Chris Grant/Nick Riewoldt/Scott Lucas type of CHF, that being strong, but not overtly large.

[jnash196]

I'd think he'll be much more like the Chris Grant/Nick Riewoldt/Scott Lucas type of CHF, that being strong, but not overtly large.

Not complaining:D

[donsman4eva]

Not the greatest game, but he should play next week.

[windyhill]

Contributed.

[hulld]

showed glimpses that prove he is worth of a number 2 pick
we hardly kicked it to him, that will come with confidence
he moves really well for a big man

[AxelFoley#5]

Presented well but got burnt many times by blokes not kicking it to him.
Looked confortable out there and showed that he will be a gun in 2-3 seasons.
If he turns like a Riewoldt/Lucas I'll be stoked, as will all Bomber fans

[bomberbilly]

he is way faster than what i thought, once he gets going those big strides really have him motoring. Perrie isnt slow and perrie struggled to keep with him.

[DaSawx]

he is way faster than what i thought, once he gets going those big strides really have him motoring. Perrie isnt slow and perrie struggled to keep with him.

that's exactly what I was thinking, didn't think he was that quick.

Should he maybe play a bit deeper and try for more pack marks in the F50 or would it get to cramped for Lloydy?

[RED AND BLACK SOLDIER]

he is way faster than what i thought, once he gets going those big strides really have him motoring. Perrie isnt slow and perrie struggled to keep with him.
Exactly what i thought aswell, the commentators commented on it aswell and thought he was pretty quick. Looks like his going to be a very good player :thumbsu:. Definately play him next week i reckon.

[SOT4]

that's exactly what I was thinking, didn't think he was that quick.

Should he maybe play a bit deeper and try for more pack marks in the F50 or would it get to cramped for Lloydy?

Probably wouldn't have the meat on him to take big pack marks just yet. Although he is a beautiful mark.

He really is a lot quicker than I thought. Looks a very good prospect. On bomber radio Quinn said that they knew he was going to be a very good player and he just needed to get his body right.

[DaSawx]

Probably wouldn't have the meat on him to take big pack marks just yet. Although he is a beautiful mark.

He really is a lot quicker than I thought. Looks a very good prospect. On bomber radio Quinn said that they knew he was going to be a very good player and he just needed to get his body right.

His timing of his leaps is terriffic, he has so many a grade tools it's scary

[KING-JAMES]

I was very pleased with him, he led well an presented hard all day only to have a few kicks fall wide or short of him. Will be much better for the run and he proved he has it in him.

His marking will be scary in time.

[hulld]

i would be very disappointed if he were to be dropped this week

gary o said he would have thought that he weill play this week on bombertv

[kelvin_sheedy]

11 possies, 8 marks, 2 goals in his second game.

Lets just say very very promising. :thumbsu:

[windyhill]

Was great today.

[hulld]

one of the few shining lights today

going to be a gun. i can't wait for him to put on some bulk and take some pack marks

[marcuz]

works his arse off.

[Woewodin#1]

7 kicks, 4 handballs, 8 marks, 2 goals.

This kid is going to be special you can just tell.

Today he had much more gametime unlike his debut. He led up the ground mostly and pinched two goals to.

Imagine what his going to be like after two full pre-seasons :eek:

To me plays like a Nick Reiwoldt but with a better shot at goal.

[GoDons]

7 kicks, 4 handballs, 8 marks, 2 goals.

This kid is going to be special you can just tell.

Today he had much more gametime unlike his debut. He led up the ground mostly and pinched two goals to.

Imagine what his going to be like after two full pre-seasons :eek:

To me plays like a Nick Reiwoldt but with a better shot at goal.

Not a bad comparison.

Hopefully he remains a good shot at goal as Riewoldt was as accurate as they come as an 18-19 year old.

[FootyGuru]

hopefully they manage his body well, dont want another kepler on our hands. i know he needs bulk but not too much that he will lose pace and mobility

[sheller891]

absolute fricking gunn

could start playing big parts in wins by next year...

but one thing? has anoyone noticed that his arms look sort of "fattish" - like no MUSCLE DEFINITION AT ALL - just jumps out at me,every time

[Lance Uppercut]

absolute fricking gunn

could start playing big parts in wins by next year...

but one thing? has anoyone noticed that his arms look sort of "fattish" - like no MUSCLE DEFINITION AT ALL - just jumps out at me,every time

wait til you see him after a couple of pre-seasons! :eek: Going to be nucking futs.

This guy is going to be all that

[DaSawx]

This guy is going to be all that

and a bag of potato chips

[hulld]

absolute fricking gunn

could start playing big parts in wins by next year...

but one thing? has anoyone noticed that his arms look sort of "fattish" - like no MUSCLE DEFINITION AT ALL - just jumps out at me,every time

its called being a kid

[ant555]

Got to play a few games late in the year and did ok without being a stand out. What he did show is he knows how to move around the field and where to go and get the footy. Didnt have huge stats but did ok with it when he had the footy. In what was a reflection of his year in the VFL he had an average game against Richomnd which he was prone to doing in the VFL some weeks. Given his restrictions with knee soreness during pre season and the 6 week missed with his hammy he didnt do too badly in his first year.
I wouldn't be looking for him to be a standout next year as he still has a bit of filling out to do but a good pre season will do him wonders and i would expect some improvement. I still think it will be 2009 before he is really ready to have a break out year.

[Jono B]

Got to play a few games late in the year and did ok without being a stand out. What he did show is he knows how to move around the field and where to go and get the footy. Didnt have huge stats but did ok with it when he had the footy. In what was a reflection of his year in the VFL he had an average game against Richomnd which he was prone to doing in the VFL some weeks. Given his restrictions with knee soreness during pre season and the 6 week missed with his hammy he didnt do too badly in his first year.
I wouldn't be looking for him to be a standout next year as he still has a bit of filling out to do but a good pre season will do him wonders and i would expect some improvement. I still think it will be 2009 before he is really ready to have a break out year.
Agree with that. The third year is when guys like him start to break out (Franklin, Roughead, Cloke). Personally I think he would be competing for the same spot as Neagle but I think Neagle would be better for team balance in that role.

[TheDon35]

Must not be considerred in a trade deal for Judd.

This guy looks like the backbone of our club for the next 13 - 14 years.

[hulld]

but are we a top 4 chance with a spine of michael, fletch, judd, lucas, lloyd

[TheDon35]

Bomber fans need to come to their senses.

No we are not a top four chance with that spine.... Too many average and overated peripheral players. We need to rebuild this club with quality and restablish a more hard nosed culture with very good young players across the board.

One Superstar won't win us a flag!

[Eccles]

Bomber fans need to come to their senses.

No we are not a top four chance with that spine.... Too many average and overated peripheral players. We need to rebuild this club with quality and restablish a more hard nosed culture with very good young players across the board.

One Superstar won't win us a flag!
I dont think anyone is losing their heads expecting Judd to deliver us a flag next year. However, it would certainly improve our chances of making the finals...

I'm actually pretty bullish in my assessment of our list. I think all six draftee's from last season have shown enough to assume they'll make it as 100 game afl players (injury permitting), as well as Ryder and Neagle who were bottom aged recruits the previous year putting them in the same age bracket. If you include Dempsey thats half a starting 18 and they all look capable and talented.

I think the rebuilding with quality is already well underway.

[TheDon35]

I dont think anyone is losing their heads expecting Judd to deliver us a flag next year. However, it would certainly improve our chances of making the finals...

I'm actually pretty bullish in my assessment of our list. I think all six draftee's from last season have shown enough to assume they'll make it as 100 game afl players (injury permitting), as well as Ryder and Neagle who were bottom aged recruits the previous year putting them in the same age bracket. If you include Dempsey thats half a starting 18 and they all look capable and talented.

I think the rebuilding with quality is already well underway.

Couldn't agree with you more... After 10 years of Dedoro recruiting ordinary players, we've finally got a couple of years in a row right. Get it right again this year by holding onto these quality young guns and drafting 3 or 4 more and we'll be looking like challengers in a couple of years.

My point is that if you interrupt that rubuilding process by throwing away your #6 draft pick and potentially and best case Jetta who would have been a top ten this year and you're all of a sudden interrupting that process and not making real gains for the future. (As much as I think Judd is a star).

If we're going to trade, lets get rid of some dead wood. Welsh, Bradley, Johns, McPhee. We won't get Judd for them but it would help build a quality list.

Might get something ok for Mcphee. Welsh is a dud but someone might give us something. Johns to Doggies would be a good trade for one of their up and comming runners.

[Smyth94]

but are we a top 4 chance with a spine of michael, fletch, judd, lucas, lloyd

Nope

[TheDon35]

Nope

Agreed, no chance with the average players around them.

[Couch Potato]

Are we forgetting how competitive Essendon was until the last half a dozen games of the season. We have a pretty good team in the making here right now. Trading Gumbleton for Judd is a good move IMO. We have already had a cleanout over the past 4 years and are in pretty good shape moving forward.

[Eccles]

Couldn't agree with you more... After 10 years of Dedoro recruiting ordinary players, we've finally got a couple of years in a row right. Get it right again this year by holding onto these quality young guns and drafting 3 or 4 more and we'll be looking like challengers in a couple of years.

My point is that if you interrupt that rubuilding process by throwing away your #6 draft pick and potentially and best case Jetta who would have been a top ten this year and you're all of a sudden interrupting that process and not making real gains for the future. (As much as I think Judd is a star).

If we're going to trade, lets get rid of some dead wood. Welsh, Bradley, Johns, McPhee. We won't get Judd for them but it would help build a quality list.

Might get something ok for Mcphee. Welsh is a dud but someone might give us something. Johns to Doggies would be a good trade for one of their up and comming runners.
Yeah I sort of agree with you, but there are a lot of other factors here. I think if Judd decides essendon is the place he wants to be then our guys will make it happen. And I do believe the price we pay will be worth it.

Our current list lacks balance, we have an aging core and then a huge gap to our developing younger list. If we continue the normal recruiting path via the draft, in three or four years we'll have one or two vets surrounded by a whole team of guys aged 19-22. I'm not sure you can win anything with a list like that... I dont think there has ever been a team that's won the premiership with only one or two players over the age of 25. I personally dont want to have to wait 6-7 years before we're successful again.

[akingofkong]

Are we forgetting how competitive Essendon was until the last half a dozen games of the season. We have a pretty good team in the making here right now. Trading Gumbleton for Judd is a good move IMO. We have already had a cleanout over the past 4 years and are in pretty good shape moving forward.



Yeah right, trade a youngster after 1 SEASON !! Good One!! :thumbsd:

[Smyth94]

Are we forgetting how competitive Essendon was until the last half a dozen games of the season. We have a pretty good team in the making here right now. Trading Gumbleton for Judd is a good move IMO. We have already had a cleanout over the past 4 years and are in pretty good shape moving forward.

Trading Gumby for Judd may give us a short term bonus...but when Gumby is tearing the comp a new A whole in a Weagles jumper in 5 years when Lloyd, Lucas, Fletcher and Mal have retired and Juddy suddenly has no one to kick it to, it won't be looking like such a good idea won't it?

There is a perception that we have a plethora of talls...We do right now but 75% of them are going to retire within 4 years.

If Gumby doesn't turn out to be a star I will seriously eat my hat.

[TheDon35]

Yeah I sort of agree with you, but there are a lot of other factors here. I think if Judd decides essendon is the place he wants to be then our guys will make it happen. And I do believe the price we pay will be worth it.

Our current list lacks balance, we have an aging core and then a huge gap to our developing younger list. If we continue the normal recruiting path via the draft, in three or four years we'll have one or two vets surrounded by a whole team of guys aged 19-22. I'm not sure you can win anything with a list like that... I dont think there has ever been a team that's won the premiership with only one or two players over the age of 25. I personally dont want to have to wait 6-7 years before we're successful again.

Understand your point but Judd doesn't have to be the answer to that generation gap.

My other problem with Judd is money.. If we offer 1.2 mil + per season over 5 years we're putting massive sallary cap pressure on for the coming years. That sort of money would buy you 2 star players per year.

That sort of cash over 5 years doesn't leave much room for some of these young guns coming through, expecially when they're from interstate.

[Eccles]

Understand your point but Judd doesn't have to be the answer to that generation gap.

My other problem with Judd is money.. If we offer 1.2 mil + per season over 5 years we're putting massive sallary cap pressure on for the coming years. That sort of money would buy you 2 star players per year.

That sort of cash over 5 years doesn't leave much room for some of these young guns coming through, expecially when they're from interstate.
Yeah you make a good point... I dont like the idea of paying any one person that much of our salary cap.

Maybe our best option out of the Judd situation is to try and trade our pick 6 to the team getting Judd for an inflated price.

Pick 6 for Scott Pendlebury? ;)

[hulld]

no chance, how about pick 6 for trav johnstone and pick 21

[ant555]

no chance, how about pick 6 for trav johnstone and pick 21

Dont rate him at all. Does not run hard enough. Not what we want.

[kelvin_sheedy]

no chance, how about pick 6 for trav johnstone and pick 21

I'd rather Pick 6 for trav johnstone and their pick 4. ;)

[HarryH]

Where is all this talk of gumby being a gun and tearing up the competition for the next 12 years to come coming from? It can't be from his onfield performance - he did not exactly show much for the BB or Essendon this year

I know his only 18 so I am not criticising the kid. I hope he turns out to be a gun. However the excitement over him is only based on the fact that he was a #2 pick. He is an unproven. Thus if WCE were extremely keen on him and Judd wanted to play for Essendon then surely we would trade Gumby and #6, for mine its a no brainer

[Lance Uppercut]

Where is all this talk of gumby being a gun and tearing up the competition for the next 12 years to come coming from? It can't be from his onfield performance - he did not exactly show much for the BB or Essendon this year

I know his only 18 so I am not criticising the kid. I hope he turns out to be a gun. However the excitement over him is only based on the fact that he was a #2 pick. He is an unproven. Thus if WCE were extremely keen on him and Judd wanted to play for Essendon then surely we would trade Gumby and #6, for mine its a no brainer

duh, because an A Grade KPP is worth more than even an A+ midfielder

[HarryH]

We don't know whether or not Gumby will be an A grade KPP. We know Judd will be a AAA grade midfielder

[Lance Uppercut]

We don't know whether or not Gumby will be an A grade KPP. We know Judd will be a AAA grade midfielder

oh it's all so simple isn't it? Get Judd and we win!!1

What about salary cap concerns? What about if Gumby does turn into the next Jonathon Brown, but at WC? What if Judd never regains his old speed? What about the team mentality, rather than the individual?

[HarryH]

Everything is simple on bigfooty Mr. Uppercut

My point is that we should not take Gumby off the table. He is not yet a gun. He may not turn out to be a gun. Judd is a gun and therefore if he chooses Essendon (which im not at all confident about) then Gumby should be a consideration to trade

On the other hand, I would not consider trading Paddy. I think Paddy has shown enough this year to indicate he will be a special player for 12 years

[ant555]

Where is all this talk of gumby being a gun and tearing up the competition for the next 12 years to come coming from? It can't be from his onfield performance - he did not exactly show much for the BB or Essendon this year

I know his only 18 so I am not criticising the kid. I hope he turns out to be a gun. However the excitement over him is only based on the fact that he was a #2 pick. He is an unproven. Thus if WCE were extremely keen on him and Judd wanted to play for Essendon then surely we would trade Gumby and #6, for mine its a no brainer

I dont know about anyone else but the excitment from me has nothing to do with him being number two pick. I just like his raw talent and the fact that even on his worst days he still got to contest and knew where to go to get into the action. Given a bit more uper body stength he will be a force in the onctested marking area. Given the two injury set backs he did about what i expected of him this year.He was never going to be big enough or fit enough (after his knee problems in pre season) to do a lot this year.
As far as trading him and pick 6 for Judd being a no brainer it depends on if you think our premiership window is in the next two years or you think we should continue rebuilding. Pick 6 will get you a pretty decent midfielder this year , chances are it wont be one as good as Judd but pretty good all the same.

[jodo27]

Everything is simple on bigfooty Mr. Uppercut

My point is that we should not take Gumby off the table. He is not yet a gun. He may not turn out to be a gun. Judd is a gun and therefore if he chooses Essendon (which im not at all confident about) then Gumby should be a consideration to trade

On the other hand, I would not consider trading Paddy. I think Paddy has shown enough this year to indicate he will be a special player for 12 years

U r a nob of the highest order. Draft Pick #2 in the best draft ever and you want to get rid of him before he has an opportunity to show how good he is ?

Gumby will be rocking the bombers for years to come. He is untouchable as is Ryder and all players we drafted last year should be untouchable as well.

The building of a premiership team is how it is done ...You cant buy one and trading away your soul wont get you one. As good as Judd is he is not the answer at Essendon. Send him to collingwood for 2 Top ten Picks and see what that does to the pies !

[ant555]

Scott Gumbleton
Had an interseting season. Missed a lot of early work with knee soreness and was virtually an on looker in the early intra club practice games where he was told just to run around but not go for the footy. His form was up and down a lot in the early Bendigo games. Had a couple of shockers where he struggled to get a kick but also had a few games where he to 12 or so marks and moved like a real star of the fututre. Injured his hammy after only playing 6 or so games and it took him 8 weeks to return in the end. In his return he didnt really play great footy but did have one game where he took 15 marks. In his senior games he showed a little bit without doing a lot. Managed to get a few kicks and showed in small burst's what he can do. Faded away a bit in the last couple of games but after the injury problems he had during the year he was never going to have the overall fitness to make a statement at AFL level.
Strengths
Pace for a big bloke is good.
Reads the play well and knows where to lead.
Tackling is good.
Ability to be at the marking contests
Weakness
His body. Is not big enough yet. (as you would expect)
Not great below the knees.
Kicking , although he is a long kick he sometimes is a bit wayward kicking for goal.
Intensity. He is only young but he has to learn to play at 110% all day, every game.
On his bad days he gets to a lot of contests but can drop marks.
Prediction
I don't think 2008 will be his break out year either. Until he gets some extra bulk to impose himself on the marking contests he will continue to play small parts at AFL level. I think the way he reads the game shows he has the footy smarts to make it at the top level. Look out for him to really break out in 2009. If he gets a good pre season under his belt this year you should notice some improvement on this year.

[HarryH]

U r a nob of the highest order. Draft Pick #2 in the best draft ever and you want to get rid of him before he has an opportunity to show how good he is ?

Gumby will be rocking the bombers for years to come. He is untouchable as is Ryder and all players we drafted last year should be untouchable as well.

The building of a premiership team is how it is done ...You cant buy one and trading away your soul wont get you one. As good as Judd is he is not the answer at Essendon. Send him to collingwood for 2 Top ten Picks and see what that does to the pies !

A nob of the highest order? Good call. Far better than being a low order nob. I find it a little strange that people have blind faith in players purely b/c they are high draft picks

IMO Gumby has yet to prove himself (not his fault b/c its only been a year). I hope he turns out to be a gun, we need a couple more, but until he is then I would prefer Judd. There have plenty of #2 picks that don't turn out to be quite as good as people hope. Take Koschitzke - even taking into account his terrible run with injuries I don't think I would call him a gun. Who would you rather, Koschitzke or Judd?

Of course this is a silly to compare players like Gumby and Judd but what else is bigfooty for

[Lance Uppercut]

my summer daydreaming is of Gumbleton "doing a Franklin" next year. Can you imagine if he kicked a couple of big bags through the year?

[TheDon35]

my summer daydreaming is of Gumbleton "doing a Franklin" next year. Can you imagine if he kicked a couple of big bags through the year?

He's every chance to!

[hulld]

it would be straight to the carlton board if he did

[Ryder Is God]

it would be straight to the carlton board if he did

Or Bay 13 to gloat about our youngsters.

[hulld]

Or Bay 13 to gloat about our youngsters.

what do you think i'd be doing at the carlton board??? :p

[Ryder Is God]

what do you think i'd be doing at the carlton board??? :p

:D :p

[windyhill]

As is often the case you check to see how the bloke taken next pick in the draft goes and how he measures up, so I took a great deal of interest in Hansen. And to cut a long story short I am positive that we pulled the right rein on this one. Hansen has shown diddly squat he looked absolutely lost at times, it was like watching a car crash.
The jury is back, Gumby in a majority.

[Darealrath]

As is often the case you check to see how the bloke taken next pick in the draft goes and how he measures up, so I took a great deal of interest in Hansen. And to cut a long story short I am positive that we pulled the right rein on this one. Hansen has shown diddly squat he looked absolutely lost at times, it was like watching a car crash.
The jury is back, Gumby in a majority.

Have to admit I was on the Hansen bandwagon. Very happy with it now though.

Just don't mention Selwood (though give Gumby a few more years...).

[windyhill]

Have to admit I was on the Hansen bandwagon. Very happy with it now though.

Just don't mention Selwood (though give Gumby a few more years...).

Mate, you had to bring him up !!! Gumby just has that look about him. I`ll go back to my original comment on him , we will be selling memberships off his back in 1-2 years time.

[Here_we_come]

Have to admit I was on the Hansen bandwagon. Very happy with it now though.

Just don't mention Selwood (though give Gumby a few more years...).

Selwood is a very good player but does anyone think he would have won the rising star if he wasnt in such a good team already? its much easier to play crap if you have crap around you, and similarly, its easier to play well in a good team. I would not change last years draft choice. If i had the benefit of hindsight i would still choose gumby over selwood.

[The_Young_Gun]

Selwood is a very good player but does anyone think he would have won the rising star if he wasnt in such a good team already? its much easier to play crap if you have crap around you, and similarly, its easier to play well in a good team. I would not change last years draft choice. If i had the benefit of hindsight i would still choose gumby over selwood.

Mate, what would you be doing up at 3 in the morning?

[TheDon35]

Have to admit I was on the Hansen bandwagon. Very happy with it now though.

Just don't mention Selwood (though give Gumby a few more years...).

Selwoods ahead at the moment but we took Gumby with the view of solidifying our spine for the next 13 years. Gumby will be a star. Sheedy had mentioned immediately following last years draft that he would have taken Selwood at no 4 had the old priority system been in place so we're a bit stiff there.

We got Hislop or Jetta depending on which way you look at it in stead of Selwood. We also got Jetta, Davey, Houli & Reimers who all look like they could play 200 games at the club. I think in a few years people might look at our draft in 2006 as one of the most successful ever.....

[Here_we_come]

Mate, what would you be doing up at 3 in the morning?

Obviously writing a message on the forum if you couldn't work that out. For your information, i'm not actually in Aus atm. different places across the globe are actually in different time zones.

[Big Blow Hard]

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We got Hislop or Jetta depending on which way you look at it in stead of Selwood. We also got Jetta, Davey, Houli & Reimers who all look like they could play 200 games at the club. I think in a few years people might look at our draft in 2006 as one of the most successful ever.....


Agreed, and I think this year will prove very fruitful aslo. Look out for us beyond 2009. We are on our way back, and we don't need to pay the likes of Judd to get there.:thumbsu:


PS. I think Jetta will this year give the Rising Star award a good nudge. Im expecting huge things!

[hulld]

unfortunately he won't win the award..............DEMPSEY will

[Don Gibson]

where does Gumbleton rank in talent and potential alongside Tomohawk? Didnt see much this year cos i live overseas. Everything sounds good about him though.

[loopy_cam]

We didn't see too much either. Five games I think. What we did see looked very good though. I'd say he's at the very least the equal of TomaHawk.

[hulld]

hawkins is nothing special. he only did well at the junior level because he was 15 kilos heavier than all his opponents. he won't ever be an elite afl footballer.

gumby on the other hand has the potential to be a star if we develop him properly

[GoDons]

where does Gumbleton rank in talent and potential alongside Tomohawk? Didnt see much this year cos i live overseas. Everything sounds good about him though.

They're polar opposites in terms of key forwards really and that makes them very difficult to compare. Hawkins is the gorilla FF whilst Gumbleton is the lead up CHF. They're talents lie in different areas.

With the direction the game is heading, I'd favour Gumbleton as the better option but that's no doubt affected by bias.

hawkins is nothing special. he only did well at the junior level because he was 15 kilos heavier than all his opponents. he won't ever be an elite afl footballer.

gumby on the other hand has the potential to be a star if we develop him properly

I have to disagree with tour comments regarding Hawkins I'm afraid.

Hawkins may have been 15 kilos bigger than his opponents, but he also had to run around with 15 kilos of extra baggage whilst his opponents who had virtually nothing weighing them down. Despite this, Hawkins was very rarely exposed.

He boasts good pace off the mark and very strong hands in contested situations. On top of that, he has a terrific ability to read the play and know when to present.

Hawkins has plenty of potential to be an elite AFL footballer from FF, and I see him ripping a few teams apart in coming years.

[Smyth94]

I was reading through a lot of old posts RE Gumbleton (mostly on other supporters forums), there was one thread on the Hawthorn board that suggested trading Franklin for Gumby (obviously last year) - He is very highly rated by most.

Watched his highlights package on BomberTV and it just made me feel so good about the kid. The ball just sticks to his hands, fantastic kick, and like has been said before has a presence at CHF.

Then I looked at his VFL stats before his hammy injury and they were quite impressive for a guy with limited pre-season. This guy is going to be a champ, no question about it. Once he adds some bulk onto his frame there won't be many players that will be able to handle his height and mobility.

[TheDon35]

I was reading through a lot of old posts RE Gumbleton (mostly on other supporters forums), there was one thread on the Hawthorn board that suggested trading Franklin for Gumby (obviously last year) - He is very highly rated by most.

Watched his highlights package on BomberTV and it just made me feel so good about the kid. The ball just sticks to his hands, fantastic kick, and like has been said before has a presence at CHF.

Then I looked at his VFL stats before his hammy injury and they were quite impressive for a guy with limited pre-season. This guy is going to be a champ, no question about it. Once he adds some bulk onto his frame there won't be many players that will be able to handle his height and mobility.

Are his highlites still on Bomber TV? I couldn't find them.

[hulld]

type in 2006 draft in the search function. the package with all the 06 draftees is still there