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Just do something
15 Jul 2007, 11:01
Just want some thoughts on who should start on Brad Johnson chopped us up in the first game and he always seems to be a concern for our backs.
Do we go with Scarlett first up or do we give Tommy the gig.
tommahawk
15 Jul 2007, 11:30
scarlett has to get him! best defender on there best forward
scarlett has to get him! best defender on there best forward
Only an idiot would do anything but.....
crosby123
15 Jul 2007, 12:23
I reckon they'll run Mackie with him. If Johnson works up the ground Scarlett will be uncomfortable. Perhaps a switch: Mackie up the ground, Scarlett inside fifty?
I reckon they'll run Mackie with him. If Johnson works up the ground Scarlett will be uncomfortable. Perhaps a switch: Mackie up the ground, Scarlett inside fifty?
Think you might be onto something there. :thumbsu:
The rabbi
15 Jul 2007, 12:58
I reckon they'll run Mackie with him. If Johnson works up the ground Scarlett will be uncomfortable. Perhaps a switch: Mackie up the ground, Scarlett inside fifty?
I think that Johnson will be physically too strong for Mackie. Mackie needs a couple of years in the gym on the juice before he could take on Johnno. Give the job to Scarlett.
I think that Johnson will be physically too strong for Mackie. Mackie needs a couple of years in the gym on the juice before he could take on Johnno. Give the job to Scarlett.
But if Johnson's playing up the ground, physical strength isn't as important as it would be if they were one out in the goalsquare, hence Crosby's reasoning that Scarlett play on Johnson in the forward 50.
Tommy the Cat
15 Jul 2007, 13:25
after yesterday, it has to be Scarlett
sarah.13
15 Jul 2007, 13:39
I reckon they'll run Mackie with him. If Johnson works up the ground Scarlett will be uncomfortable. Perhaps a switch: Mackie up the ground, Scarlett inside fifty?
Totally agree,Mackie has the pace to stay with him up the ground and Scarlett needs to stay in Defensive 50 mopping up and starting the rebounds.
Jim Boy
15 Jul 2007, 13:54
This will be our toughest match of the remaining home and away rounds. Johnson is just one of those players who we have difficulty matching up on and who loves playing us.
If we can win this match by any margin I will be very happy.
Zackman
15 Jul 2007, 14:38
This will be our toughest match of the remaining home and away rounds. Johnson is just one of those players who we have difficulty matching up on and who loves playing us.
If we can win this match by any margin I will be very happy.
Max Rooke would be ideal if he wasnt injured
cats2rise
15 Jul 2007, 14:51
Max Rooke would be ideal if he wasnt injured
Not so sure about that. I would rather Max around the ball. If he was on Joshnon, Eade would just make him drag Rooke back to the goal square.
eminbee
15 Jul 2007, 15:22
Has to be Tom Harley, for the best combination of body shape, strength and speed to counter Johnson. Can't recall if Tom played the early-season game before his injury, but he's in form right now. Plus, it frees up Scarlett to play his best role for the team; that is, the same type of play-starting job he did against Collwd, although he might not get the benefit of having a one-dimensional opponent like Rocca this time though.
Hairy Cat Mooney
15 Jul 2007, 15:36
Johnson kicked about 5 goals on Harley in Round 1 but I think he should get another go. He has been in pretty good form in recent weeks and excels on the smaller players, such as Thomas yesterday. If Harley fails to do the job then Mackie should be next in line and then as a last resort Scarlett... but hopefully his services on Brad won't be required.
crosby123
15 Jul 2007, 18:02
I thought they started turning Mackie into a backman when it became clear that Scarlett and Harley might struggle on the agile key forward with a big engine (Brad Johnson, Lance Franklin) in round 1. Perfect, in that he has the height of a key back, the endurance of a midfielder, excellent redbounding skills, and sufficient overhead skills to match these types. Would get monstered by a true power forward, but these guys ain't.
I think the Johnson match up might be detirmined by Rocket. Scarlett played really well yesterday against a slowish Rocca. He matched him in the body work and then ran off him. Rockett might play Darce close to home and try and force Thompson to put Scarlett on him and use him in the way he did against Collingwood.
And_ROOS
15 Jul 2007, 18:32
Has to be Tom Harley, for the best combination of body shape, strength and speed to counter Johnson. Can't recall if Tom played the early-season game before his injury, but he's in form right now. Plus, it frees up Scarlett to play his best role for the team; that is, the same type of play-starting job he did against Collwd, although he might not get the benefit of having a one-dimensional opponent like Rocca this time though.
Agreed, Harley has been great of late, so if he holds Johnson to 4 goals or under, we win.
Jim Boy
15 Jul 2007, 19:39
Johnson kicked about 5 goals on Harley in Round 1
However Harley did do his finger in the first five minutes of that match. Played on, but perhaps he shouldn't have.
Ricketts
15 Jul 2007, 23:16
1. Scarlett
2. Harley
3. Mackie
Although it depends where Johnson runs to.
Harley to Murphy
Scarlett to Johnson
Egan to Darcy(If Darcy if playing there)
Max Rooke would be ideal if he wasnt injured
Never know. This bloke in Munich is a miracle worker. I'd be more surprised is Rooke didn't play this week.
Fitz roos
16 Jul 2007, 01:16
If you were going to go a smaller option in Mackie, wouldn't you rather go someone a little stronger like Milburn or Enright? I rate Mackie very highly and love his run from defence
ozdevil1978
16 Jul 2007, 06:38
hi ya i thought thompson would play milburn on him or egan ???
It is rediculous to keep doing the same thing and expect a different result. Harley can't play on Johnson. Put Scarlett in him.
Zackman
16 Jul 2007, 12:51
It is rediculous to keep doing the same thing and expect a different result. Harley can't play on Johnson. Put Scarlett in him.
hot tiip egan will get the job
S "Thinks He's Daicos" J
16 Jul 2007, 14:04
I am concerned about Egan's role this week. The only real match I can see is Darcy - if he doesn't spend much time up forward, what will Egan do?
Mooney_d'King
16 Jul 2007, 14:09
hot tiip egan will get the job
I'd really rather Scarlett. You need guile when playing on Brad Johnson.
cat_fanatic_21
16 Jul 2007, 14:31
Brad Johnson is in red hot form and we (along with many other clubs) dont have a player who is strong and quick enough to match up on him.
For this reason, he should be double teamed by Egan and Scarlett while playing deep, and by Mackie when he runs into the midfield.
If Johnson can be restricted to 3 or less goals and D. Johnson/Enright/Hunt does a reasonable job on Aka it will go along way to ensure a cats win.
Who will get Cooney? I have never really rated him very highly but he seems to be stringing some solid performances together (30+ possies and goals).
I think they will play Nathan, Hawkins and Mooney in the same team this week. If so, who will line up on them?
Mooney_d'King
16 Jul 2007, 14:32
Brad Johnson is in red hot form and we (along with many other clubs) dont have a player who is strong and quick enough to match up on him.
For this reason, he should be double teamed by Egan and Scarlett while playing deep, and by Mackie when he runs into the midfield.
If Johnson can be restricted to 3 or less goals and D. Johnson/Enright/Hunt does a reasonable job on Aka it will go along way to ensure a cats win.
Who will get Cooney? I have never really rated him very highly but he seems to be stringing some solid performances together (30+ possies and goals).
I think they will play Nathan, Hawkins and Mooney in the same team this week. If so, who will line up on them?
Maybe Corey for Cooney. Cooney doesn't seem to cope when there's physical pressure on him.
linelefty
16 Jul 2007, 14:47
What about Chappy on Johnson?
One outta the box but hes got the strength, agility and (almost) overhead power.
Or, even ding-a-ling?
crosby123
16 Jul 2007, 16:44
I am concerned about Egan's role this week. The only real match I can see is Darcy - if he doesn't spend much time up forward, what will Egan do?
Throw him forward? He's an incredibly good contested mark, as good as Mooney for sure. Just put him in the goal square and tell him to stay put.
Start Scarlett on him.
Harley is best equipped in the lending hand role, cutting off Johnson's leading space (by just being the big bodied space eater) and floating across contests (where his hands have been absolute money for the past few weeks).
Mackie might be better equipped against a Rob Murphy type.
Prismall32
18 Jul 2007, 09:04
I think that Johnson will be physically too strong for Mackie. Mackie needs a couple of years in the gym on the juice before he could take on Johnno. Give the job to Scarlett.
Mackie has actually bulked up a lot this year - not flipped out of contests like last year. It has to be someone with speed as well as strength on Brad J. - he is hard to contain - Scarlett will do it for a start.
Rik E Boy
18 Jul 2007, 12:30
However Harley did do his finger in the first five minutes of that match. Played on, but perhaps he shouldn't have.
I might be wrong here but hasn't Johnson cleaned up the Tomcat on a few other occaisions? :confused:
regards,
REB
thejester
18 Jul 2007, 13:23
Throw him forward? He's an incredibly good contested mark, as good as Mooney for sure. Just put him in the goal square and tell him to stay put.
They tried that in Round 1 - and while Egan has definitely got the marking ability he looked lost in what to do afterwards. Could try it again, perhaps even play him as a defensive forward if they have a sweeper?
cellis84
18 Jul 2007, 15:54
well, im concerned about our defensive matchups this wk. that said, i think they will have the same worries, with their only key defender bng harris who at the best of times is just a tryer.
while i rate tom harley and also ego, poor old tom is very very lacking in pace, and brad squealer johnson will really show him up on the pace side of things. 2 a lesser extent, i reckon he wld also worry ego 4 pace. scarlo is the obvious match, if that doesnt work, maybe mr.mackie or dasha.
whatever the match up boys, im worried, teams with smaller fwd lines will b our achillies i think. looking fwd 2 it tho, should b a good game
sarah.13
18 Jul 2007, 16:01
well, im concerned about our defensive matchups this wk. that said, i think they will have the same worries, with their only key defender bng harris who at the best of times is just a tryer.
while i rate tom harley and also ego, poor old tom is very very lacking in pace, and brad squealer johnson will really show him up on the pace side of things. 2 a lesser extent, i reckon he wld also worry ego 4 pace. scarlo is the obvious match, if that doesnt work, maybe mr.mackie or dasha.
whatever the match up boys, im worried, teams with smaller fwd lines will b our achillies i think. looking fwd 2 it tho, should b a good game
A few posters had that concern last week re- Didak,Thomas and Davis but the only one that hurt us was Cloke.
Johnson is the concern as he plays tall but is as good as anyone on the ground.
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A few posters had that concern last week re- Didak,Thomas and Davis but the only one that hurt us was Cloke.
Johnson is the concern as he plays tall but is as good as anyone on the ground.
Johnno gets a lot of his goals on the lead so I think Scarlo, with his closing speed, would be the man to go with him. With his pace and ability to read the game he tends to get on the end of some very nice passes.
The most important aspect is to shut off his delivery. Shut down their mids and make their back line accountable (therefore Stokes & Varcoe need to be in and on their game) will drastically reduce Johno's input.
Good point about the Pies, Didak, Davis, Meadhurst & Thomas were meant to create havoc but Mackie, Boris, Dash & Harls seemed to cope.
Stripey PJs
18 Jul 2007, 16:50
A few posters had that concern last week re- Didak,Thomas and Davis but the only one that hurt us was Cloke.
Johnson is the concern as he plays tall but is as good as anyone on the ground.
We won, which only enhances the belief. The concern was that those are the types of players who'll stand up when we lose (often the player manned by Hunt). If we contain them, we inevitably win.
Enright and Harley have performed superbly against the opposition's smalls this past month.
crosby123
18 Jul 2007, 16:56
We won, which only enhances the belief. The concern was that those are the types of players who'll stand up when we lose (often the player manned by Hunt). If we contain them, we inevitably win.
Enright and Harley have performed superbly against the opposition's smalls this past month.
Harls has become the number one choice for the opposition's best small/medium forward, which is reassuring after there were fears other teams wouldn't have players he could match up on. He's getting quite good on the deck, while his overhead skills are far better than any small forward's.
Partridge
18 Jul 2007, 17:44
Throw him forward? He's an incredibly good contested mark, as good as Mooney for sure. Just put him in the goal square and tell him to stay put.
Why would you try? Egan has been sensational for us at CHB this year - even allowing for last week (and I didn't think he was that bad, just Cloke played very well). The Dogs will put someone big in their forward line. Either Grant, or Darcy, or both. He'll have a role to play don't worry. He could even pick up someone like Hahn if they throw him forward.
I'd stop worrying so much about what the Dogs can do, and I'd focus on what we can do. Get first use from our superior ruckman (especially Ottens), win the ball in the middle (where we are bigger and stronger) and move it FAST to our marking forwards. When they've got it, chase them down and put relentless pressure on them.
If we can do that, we've every chance.
sarah.13
18 Jul 2007, 17:52
Why would you try? Egan has been sensational for us at CHB this year - even allowing for last week (and I didn't think he was that bad, just Cloke played very well). The Dogs will put someone big in their forward line. Either Grant, or Darcy, or both. He'll have a role to play don't worry. He could even pick up someone like Hahn if they throw him forward.
I'd stop worrying so much about what the Dogs can do, and I'd focus on what we can do. Get first use from our superior ruckman (especially Ottens), win the ball in the middle (where we are bigger and stronger) and move it FAST to our marking forwards. When they've got it, chase them down and put relentless pressure on them.
If we can do that, we've every chance.
You'd think that they were on top of the ladder!
We are a vastly different side to Rd 1,our structures are much better,players in their correct positions and we are playing well.
Our only concern would be a mental let down after our last few weeks.
Jean Claude Vas Deferens
18 Jul 2007, 21:01
their only key defender bng harris who at the best of times is just a tryer.
You've obviously had a magnificent full back to watch for several years in Scarlett cellis, but I think Brian Harris is a whole lot better than a tryer at the best of times! Keep an eye on him this week. He's a very good footballer. Speaking of good footballers, you guys may have Johnno on your radar, but I'm pretty sure our coaches will have Chappy on theirs. He is a gun and always seems to cause us grief! Looking forward to a great game!
crosby123
18 Jul 2007, 21:48
Why would you try? Egan has been sensational for us at CHB this year - even allowing for last week (and I didn't think he was that bad, just Cloke played very well). The Dogs will put someone big in their forward line. Either Grant, or Darcy, or both. He'll have a role to play don't worry. He could even pick up someone like Hahn if they throw him forward.
I'd stop worrying so much about what the Dogs can do, and I'd focus on what we can do. Get first use from our superior ruckman (especially Ottens), win the ball in the middle (where we are bigger and stronger) and move it FAST to our marking forwards. When they've got it, chase them down and put relentless pressure on them.
If we can do that, we've every chance.
Yeah, I forgot about Grant coming back. With both him and Darcy in the team there'll be at least one of them in the forward line at all times, probably. Hahn also a decent matchup, due to his strength. Just shows I know nothing about the Bulldogs!
Partridge
19 Jul 2007, 10:11
Yeah, I forgot about Grant coming back. With both him and Darcy in the team there'll be at least one of them in the forward line at all times, probably. Hahn also a decent matchup, due to his strength. Just shows I know nothing about the Bulldogs!
Yeah there'll be someone for him to get for sure. Actually, I reckon Egan is pretty quick for his size also, I think against a smaller forward he could surprise people. But you'd think either Grant or Darcy at this point.
a.f.k.a.y.o.p.
19 Jul 2007, 10:51
Im with the theory on concetrate less on what the Dogs will do in their forward line, and more on what we will do in the midefield to stop it getting down there. Applying pressure on their backs to stop the run form the HB line (where they flogged us in Round 1) is, along with winning the ball in the middle, the key. With West under an injury cloud, and Ottens, Gaz, bartell and even Lings form in the middle, throw in Selwood, we should not have to worry overly about Johson - just play him as usual and prevent the ball from getting there too often. If Nablett is back, his ground level and forward defensive work rate with Stokes, Varcoe and Dog Johnson, should get us over the line.