The Official Lids Off/On Thread

[Mooney_d'King]

I couldn't help my self, I just had to do it...

I looked in and saw the results of some smart thinking and acting. I saw the ashes of last season, the disappointment and disillusionment of coaches, players and supporters. I saw the maturity and foresight that resulted in a comprehensive review of the entire club's operations. I saw some pain near the bottom, but it was becoming part of the lining of a package turning into something bigger and better.

I saw a reinvigorated coach, committed and effective assistant coaches. I saw Sando, the result of some clever poaching. And in Sando I see an inspired and capable right-hand man to Bomber.

I saw Neil Balme, taking on the administrative side of things and introducing the program that gave a massive degree of self-awareness and improvement to the players.

I saw a professional medical and training department that has created a team that can run and play intensely for four full quarters.

I saw 10 games in a row and 12 out of 15 wins for the season.
I saw a committed and focused group of players. I saw toughness, hardness and run combined with creative flair making us one of the most exciting teams playing AFL footy.

But most of all I see success. I'm not saying success at the end of the year necessarily, I mean good decisions leading to good outcomes. I see a team that I can believe in and one that I can really begin to trust. A team that has found an excellent mix of confidence and focus - and gratifyingly, ruthlessness.

Geelong Football Club and Geelong supporters should be proud of the achievements so far this season. I believe there is a level of maturity in the players and supporters that is not leading to undue and over-inflated confidence. Let's hope that perspective is maintained when we inevitably lose a game (as long as it's not in September ;) ).

I think it's fair to say that this is the best chance in a long time to win the big win. Provided we maintain our balance, ruthlessness and desire to win....

So anyway, I put the lid back on, unconcerned with it being a Pandora's box. Then I went out and picked up all the dog crap in the backyard and mowed the lawn, content in the return to my mundane existence.

[GFC MAD!]

Top post!

[Tonycam*]

One of a kind Moons , Never lets us down with your stuff.

[Selwood07]

Love the thread. Gee!!! - we have waited years to have this confidence and it's not overconfidence.

[WE Are Geelong]

Great post. Self assured as we should be but realistic of the task that awaits. There are plenty of people who should feel proud of their efforts at the GFC...they have proven alot of people wrong to date including me on certain issues...but I hope they realise they have all our support leading into September. Great job so far.

This excellent thread is in complete contrast to Jon Ralph's write up in the herald Sun today which proclaims at round 15 the lid is completely off...wow this guy should be writing his lines for play school. I threw my breakfast up all over the article so I am unable due to such reasons of revulsion and nausea to even post a link to the article...sorry...;)...You have to remember this is the same guy who asked people to recall where it was they stood or sat when NAB got his first touch in the AFL...I assume this guy is looking to bump up his shares in some tissues franchise because his regular trips to the sperm bank dont seem to be quite doing it for him.

This is a great chance for the club. I hope they keep the focus but we can all enjoy ourselves along the way. I do feel for the players though as it will get tough for them from here but after going yesterday and seeing us beat the Pies I really feel they have what it takes.

[Tommy the Cat]

much like our current crop of running players, that had good vision

Pandora would have been proud

[Mooney_d'King]

This excellent thread is in complete contrast to Jon Ralph's write up in the herald Sun today which proclaims at round 15 the lid is completely off...wow this guy should be writing his lines for play school. I threw my breakfast up all over the article so I am unable due to such reasons of revulsion and nausea to even post a link to the article...sorry...;)...You have to remember this is the same guy who asked people to recall where it was they stood or sat when NAB got his first touch in the AFL...I assume this guy is looking to bump up his shares in some tissues franchise because his regular trips to the sperm bank dont seem to be quite doing it for him.

ROFL!!! I just read those articles and I didn't think they were that bad though...

[passthebottle]

I couldn't help my self, I just had to do it...

I looked in and saw the results of some smart thinking and acting. I saw the ashes of last season, the disappointment and disillusionment of coaches, players and supporters. I saw the maturity and foresight that resulted in a comprehensive review of the entire club's operations. I saw some pain near the bottom, but it was becoming part of the lining of a package turning into something bigger and better.

I saw a reinvigorated coach, committed and effective assistant coaches. I saw Sando, the result of some clever poaching. And in Sando I see an inspired and capable right-hand man to Bomber.

I saw Neil Balme, taking on the administrative side of things and introducing the program that gave a massive degree of self-awareness and improvement to the players.

I saw a professional medical and training department that has created a team that can run and play intensely for four full quarters.

I saw 10 games in a row and 12 out of 15 wins for the season.
I saw a committed and focused group of players. I saw toughness, hardness and run combined with creative flair making us one of the most exciting teams playing AFL footy.

But most of all I see success. I'm not saying success at the end of the year necessarily, I mean good decisions leading to good outcomes. I see a team that I can believe in and one that I can really begin to trust. A team that has found an excellent mix of confidence and focus - and gratifyingly, ruthlessness.

Geelong Football Club and Geelong supporters should be proud of the achievements so far this season. I believe there is a level of maturity in the players and supporters that is not leading to undue and over-inflated confidence. Let's hope that perspective is maintained when we inevitably lose a game (as long as it's not in September ;) ).

I think it's fair to say that this is the best chance in a long time to win the big win. Provided we maintain our balance, ruthlessness and desire to win....

So anyway, I put the lid back on, unconcerned with it being a Pandora's box. Then I went out and picked up all the dog crap in the backyard and mowed the lawn, content in the return to my mundane existence.

I thought thats what we did on the Sunday after the Grand Final.
Oh thats right will be still bloody drunk after we win the Flag.:thumbsu::D

edit*not getting ahead of myself i know there is a long way to go*

[sarah.13]

Moons tell us the truth, did you see The Holy Grail?

[Deep North]

Moons tell us the truth, did you see The Holy Grail?

What Moons really saw I feel will never be truely revealed, but from my side of the suitcase I'm sure I saw a golden glow reflecting off his chin and teeth. However, like Samual L. he just shut the lid on his cargo and set off to deliver what was ordered.

[Mooney_d'King]

Moons tell us the truth, did you see The Holy Grail?

What Moons really saw I feel will never be truely revealed, but from my side of the suitcase I'm sure I saw a golden glow reflecting off his chin and teeth. However, like Samual L. he just shut the lid on his cargo and set off to deliver what was ordered.

The light was golden.

(It's funny you mention that actually - I had that in when I first wrote it then took it out!)

[CatmanForever]

love your work Mooney_d'King

[Oscarlett]

Top work.

[Shell]

Great post! :)

If you open the lid and look again you'll also see a media that is about to explode.. gawd today we got front page, back page, a double spread in the "normal" news section, as well as the pages in the sports section!!

Go cats!!!!!! :thumbsu:

[fugsy]

Great read MDK...love your work mate :thumbsu::)

[Duskfire]

I think in some ways in keeping the "lid" down, we sometimes fail to see what the cats have accomplished this season. Regardless of whether we win the flag or not, we should be immensely proud of the team, players and administration. Last year we were in shambles and hardly anyone suggested we could make anything of this year, yet the Cats pulled themselves out of the gutter, forgot about last year and focused on making something of this one, while at the same time completely changing their structure and how they go about things.

We have won 10 in a row, but even that isn't neccessarily important. In those ten games we showed determination and a grit that wasn't there in previous years, a flair and do-about attitude. Whether it be rain or shine, whether we have injuries or not, we are winning games that in previous seasons we wouldn't have. Not only that, but those 10 have come in a season that is as even and open as this one.

[re cat]

Hey Moons did the lid have a glass ceiling????

[Mooney_d'King]

Hey Moons did the lid have a glass ceiling????

No mate, it was heavy and solid, well defined, no transparency at all. No barriers in perception there.

[re cat]

No mate, it was heavy and solid, well defined, no transparency at all. No barriers in perception there.
Thanks, but wait and have a look in a few weeks and see for myself, although my eye sight is not 100%;)

[fugsy]

Thanks, but wait and have a look in a few weeks and see for myself, although my eye sight is not 100%;)

Yeah, I'm a bit one-eyed myself ;)

[re cat]

Yeah, I'm a bit one-eyed myself ;)

What I do have is a very good memory. :(

[nananana catman]

I told my girlfriend if Geelong win the flag that I'd propose to her.

She told everyone of our agreement in her 21st speech on Friday :o

[MacMum]

Hi there Mooney d'King.....Just to say loved your story on having a peak! As the black sheep (Brisbane) of a Geelong mad family, I had to tell you that you have made an old man very happy. My dear old Dad is 80 and loves his Cats, so when I saw your post, I knew he would love it....he lives up in the country, so read it to him over the phone...he couldn't stop chuckling.....thankyou! My son has lived in QLD 15yrs and has NEVER stopped barracking for his beloved Cats. Keep that lid firmly in place guys, it will open to reveal all in September.......Good luck, i really feel they can do it this time.....cheers :thumbsu::)

[Mooney_d'King]

Hi there Mooney d'King.....Just to say loved your story on having a peak! As the black sheep (Brisbane) of a Geelong mad family, I had to tell you that you have made an old man very happy. My dear old Dad is 80 and loves his Cats, so when I saw your post, I knew he would love it....he lives up in the country, so read it to him over the phone...he couldn't stop chuckling.....thankyou! My son has lived in QLD 15yrs and has NEVER stopped barracking for his beloved Cats. Keep that lid firmly in place guys, it will open to reveal all in September.......Good luck, i really feel they can do it this time.....cheers :thumbsu::)

Hey that's great!! Good onya, thanks for your kind words and good luck to your dear old (and young) family!

[azyboy]

Tell me MdK that there wasn't a can of worms under there....or worse a nest of hawks)

[Mooney_d'King]

Tell me MdK that there wasn't a can of worms under there....or worse a nest of hawks)

Nothing befouled the vision.

[sarah.13]

I told my girlfriend if Geelong win the flag that I'd propose to her.

She told everyone of our agreement in her 21st speech on Friday :o

Did you specify which flag! 2007, 2008, 2009?
It's called the get out clause. ;)

[nananana catman]

Did you specify which flag! 2007, 2008, 2009?
It's called the get out clause. ;)

The next one, I am basically trying to jinx Geelong to a flag ;)

[Mooney_d'King]

Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention Joel Selwood.

[Kittenish]

The next one, I am basically trying to jinx Geelong to a flag ;)
Don't do that. You may not want them to win, but the rest of us need the win. I need to stick it to the Swan supporters.

And great morale you got there Mooney D'King. Keep it up and you may achieve enlightenment. Be the Dalai Lama of the GFC.

[hoody]

I have had a gutful of this "keep the lid on it" stuff.
What we express on this site are personal opinions and no more that that.
They have no (zero) influence on the way that the team performs.

My question to fellow Catters is simply this:

Will we win the flag in 2007?

Whether it is a judgement, an opinion, a hope, a dream or a nightmare put your reputation on the line.
No maybes.
No ifs.
No buts.
C'mon what do YOU think, will we win it ? ? ? ? ?

[finrod]

I have my hopes up more than a long time, but I have this sinking feeling that West Coast will finish the seaon with a bang (thanks in part to Cousins returning) and steal our moment.

[volcboy]

I have followed Geelong for too long to say 'We will win it'. We have a good chance of winning it (injuries permitting), but I will not believe that we are premiers until I see the cup engraved with the word 'Geelong' with my own eyes.

All I hope is that, if we don't win it in 2007, that the club doesn't drop their collective bundle. If we don't win this year, it should make the players even more determined to do so next year, along the lines of Port Adelaide earlier this decade (came close a couple of years, then went on to win it).

[scottydeewah]

If the best team of the season wins it yes.

Still need a few more little dosses of luck :D

[Rustybugles]

I have had a gutful of this "keep the lid on it" stuff.
What we express on this site are personal opinions and no more that that.
They have no (zero) influence on the way that the team performs.

My question to fellow Catters is simply this:

Will we win the flag in 2007?

Whether it is a judgement, an opinion, a hope, a dream or a nightmare put your reputation on the line.
No maybes.
No ifs.
No buts.
C'mon what do YOU think, will we win it ? ? ? ? ?
Hoody, you must be young. From the heartbreaking experience of many years of promise and disappointment most of us are happy to be seen as underdogs. I'm really proud of this year's team and its approach - understatement is the keyword for all of them and for me. I believe that we can win and I think W.C. will be our opponents. It's not gutless to talk our chances down or not talk about them with unbridled optimism; it is simply a self-defense mechanism. I honestly cannot recall feeling as confident as I do this year - strangely more so than in 1995. That is my "reputation on the line".

[Jim Boy]

Another comparison, in 1981, Essendon won 15 straight. We ended their run in a match in which had they won, may have seen them finish the H & A season in top spot, instead they finished fourth and got knocked out in the first week of the finals. In other words, shit happens.

Incidentally that years 10 matches at Kardinia Park saw an average attendence of 24,600 at KP with two matches having 35,000+ ! It would be great to get KP back to hosting those sorts of numbers.

[Rik E Boy]

I have had a gutful of this "keep the lid on it" stuff.
What we express on this site are personal opinions and no more that that.
They have no (zero) influence on the way that the team performs.

My question to fellow Catters is simply this:

Will we win the flag in 2007?

Whether it is a judgement, an opinion, a hope, a dream or a nightmare put your reputation on the line.
No maybes.
No ifs.
No buts.
C'mon what do YOU think, will we win it ? ? ? ? ?

Yes, I think we can. The PLAYERS aren't getting ahead of themselves.

regards,

REB

[S "Thinks He's Daicos" J]

I have had a gutful of this "keep the lid on it" stuff.What we express on this site are personal opinions and no more that that.
They have no (zero) influence on the way that the team performs.

My question to fellow Catters is simply this:

Will we win the flag in 2007?

Whether it is a judgement, an opinion, a hope, a dream or a nightmare put your reputation on the line.
No maybes.
No ifs.
No buts.
C'mon what do YOU think, will we win it ? ? ? ? ?
I've had a gutful of people ripping it off. For God's sake, how would you even know if we will win this week, let alone go the whole way in the finals series which is a month and a half away? Take each week on its merits and go from there.

[darren forssman]

someone grab the bloody lid and shove it back on.....shhhhhhhh

[CatmanForever]

we have a chance that's for sure but finals are a different kettle of fish to H&A so declaring that we will win it at this stage is a bit premature IMO. I hope we do, but as we all know from our efforts in the 90's that making the GF is one thing, but winning it is something else all together. A lot needs to go right for us and the players need to keep their form and their nerve.

[DanA]

A perfect year for the cats would be:

1st in Home & Away - In the bag
Premiership - Good chance
Brownlow - Ablett favourite
Norm Smith - 50% chance if we get to the Grand final
Coleman - Cam Mooney is 12 goals behind the leader
Rising star - Selwood is the favourite

What are the chances of taking every award that matters in the AFL? I put the odds at about 1 in 3000 compared to 1 in 1,000,000 at the beginning of the year.

[crosby123]

A perfect year for the cats would be:

1st in Home & Away - In the bag
Premiership - Good chance
Brownlow - Ablett favourite
Norm Smith - 50% chance if we get to the Grand final
Coleman - Cam Mooney is 12 goals behind the leader
Rising star - Selwood is the favourite

What are the chances of taking every award that matters in the AFL? I put the odds at about 1 in 3000 compared to 1 in 1,000,000 at the beginning of the year.
Least likely is the Coleman. Hard to make up 12 goals in 6 matches, with people like Brad Johnson and Jonathan Brown in front of you, not to mention Lucas, Pavlich etc. If Moons kicks 10 this week I'll reconsider.

[DanA]

Least likely is the Coleman. Hard to make up 12 goals in 6 matches, with people like Brad Johnson and Jonathan Brown in front of you, not to mention Lucas, Pavlich etc. If Moons kicks 10 this week I'll reconsider.

Yeah it's tough, I can't remember Mooney kicking more than 5 in a game and he will need to average more than 5 a game for the rest of the season. Probably needs 15 goals over the next 2 weeks to be in with a chance.

[WE Are Geelong]

I have had a gutful of this "keep the lid on it" stuff.
What we express on this site are personal opinions and no more that that.
They have no (zero) influence on the way that the team performs.

My question to fellow Catters is simply this:

Will we win the flag in 2007?

Whether it is a judgement, an opinion, a hope, a dream or a nightmare put your reputation on the line.
No maybes.
No ifs.
No buts.
C'mon what do YOU think, will we win it ? ? ? ? ?

Whilst everyone understands the excitement you feel if you want to ask the question will we win it?...the natural question to ask is...what's our selected side and who are we playing?

Since you cant answer either of those questions the lid just takes care of itself till then.

[Catter]

With all the other issues surrounding the AFL lately (i.e coaching), it has helped with the lid being tightly closed. The media focus has not been on the GFC all that much. This will to be a good thing right!!!

[MrGFC]

Exactly!

It will settle down soon enough, but in the mean time the Cats can keep focused on the job at hand and push on to September!

All this coaching swapping means nothing to us atm, and personally it makes me extremely happy to see all this other stuff happening and letting us fly under the radar.

At some point all eyes will revert back to see what we're up to, but for now.. :thumbsu:

[Cheshire Cat]

My view is we certainly can win, if we continue playing like we are with our best 22 we probably should. But finals is a different kettle of fish. We are reaching a precarious position (2 games clear) where we are going to be expected to at least make the Grand Final. It would be an amazing turnaorund because last year I was convinced our list was average and Thompson could not coach...what the hell happened last year!?! :o

[cat in sydney]

I definitely think we can.
However, looking back at the Collingwood game (which is the closest we'll get to a finals type atmosphere this side of September), we took a good half of the first quarter to get settled after some initial stage-fright.
In a GF, this 'pressure' would be magnified by 100... so my concern is that although we would eventually start playing to our potential, would it come too late? Would we just be playing catch-up footy after a slow start?

Obviously, it depends who we face: seasoned finalists like Swans and WCE (and Collingwood who thrive on pressure at the MCG) we could find ourselves in a spot of bother by quarter time. However, if we come up against other sides who haven't tasted a lot of finals (Kangas, Hawks, etc), then it would be more of an even footing.

(This is all said on the hypothetical assumption that we make the GF, not an anticipated outcome - lid still resting on top)

[Ling Sting]

No one remembers who finished on top of the ladder at the end of the H&A season. See Port in seasons 2002-2003.

It all happens in september and until september comes the lid will be firmly held in place.

[dont bowl there]

No one remembers who finished on top of the ladder at the end of the H&A season. See Port in seasons 2002-2003.

It all happens in september and until september comes the lid will be firmly held in place.

You seemed to remember Port did.

[linelefty]

Rising star and Premiership would be very, very rare. Most premierships sides (or sides with a window) haver very little space for blooding new players for enough matches to enable them to win the rising star.

Shows how good Selwood is to havee secured his spot in this team.

[Tristagi]

maybe we should focus on getting there first, then we can think about winning it..
we know more than anyone its not won in July/August its all about September

[Ling Sting]

You seemed to remember Port did.

Because I'm an elephant.

[malvern]

VFL flag as well...

[sarah.13]

There is only one thing that will make things perfect : The premiership, the rest means nothing like chocolate sprinkles without ice cream.:rolleyes:

[Kyusss]

3 teams in the last 15 years have been on top of the ladder at round 15 and gone on to win the flag
usually they lose it?

[The rabbi]

There is only one thing that will make things perfect : The premiership, the rest means nothing like chocolate sprinkles without ice cream.:rolleyes:


Behold! A man in who there is no gall.

In this game, when all is said and done, there is one Premiership team and then there are 15 loser teams. End of story.

[jess_555]

Shhhhhhhhhhhh none of this talk! ;)

[The rabbi]

As a life long Cats supporter and a member and a bloke who loves the township of Geelong I would love to see the Cats win a flag. It is one of my life ambitions that I want realized before the maggots get me.

If you were to ask me who I think will win the flag, I would have to say the WEagles. They play well on the G in finals. They all have Grand Final experience having been in the last two.

I think that both Hawthorn and West Coast could beat Geelong in the finals and the Cats have a poor record in finals against both teams.

I would have to see Harley holding that cup aloft at 5pm on Grand Final day before I believe that they can win it.

________________________________________
"Unless I see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe"

[re cat]

The bombers even managed to take the spotlight off Carlton.

[cat in sydney]

3 teams in the last 15 years have been on top of the ladder at round 15 and gone on to win the flag
usually they lose it?

Over the past 15 years, here are the results of where the premier has finished the home and away season...

2006 - WCE (1)
2005 - Syd (3)
2004 - Port (1)
2003 - Bris (3)
2002 - Bris (2)
2001 - Bris (2)
2000 - Ess (1)
1999 - Kan (2)
1998 - Ade (5)
1997 - Ade (4)
1996 - Kan (2)
1995 - Car (1)
1994 - WCE (1)
1993 - Ess (2)
1992 - WCE (4)

So, for each home and away position, here are the premierships won:
1st - 5/15
2nd - 5/15
3rd - 2/15
4th - 2/15
5th - 1/15

So, based on history, the minor premiers have finished with the flag 33% of the time. The same amount for 2nd. So, you'd have to say, that it's generally (as it should be) a 50/50 once you're in the Top2 (also emphasises how important it is to finish Top2).

So, who cares about where we are at Rd15... if we're in the Top2 come end of season, history tells us that we're in very good shape to take it out (at least no worse off than any other position at end Rd22).

Clear as mud??? :confused: ;)

[Whiskers]

No one remembers who finished on top of the ladder at the end of the H&A season. See Port in seasons 2002-2003.

It all happens in september and until september comes the lid will be firmly held in place.

Contradicts himself.

Yes this year is completely different, yes i been let down before but we have never dominated a season like this before. We have never been clear favourites like this in any other year. Other years there has been a equally or more dominant team. This year not really.

However im nervous as hell and this year would hurt more than any other by a long way if we fail. WCE are coming and cousins worries me. The place will be buzzing and they will hit their peak at the exact right time. That might happen but at this stage it looks bright.

[MmkMrMackie]

**** the lid. Do you guys think the lid is there for you/me to save face on Bigfooty in case we lose? Is the lid there to save your/my mental state from descending into shit if we happen to lose? I don't think you guys honestly care either way in my case. If I ruin my reputation on this site (not that I haven't gone a long way to doing it already) or if I get excited and then let down, I don't think you guys would care less. Therefore, if I choose to post about grand finals etc., it is my freaking business and not yours.

The next time I see someone posting about keeping the lid on, I think I'll scream. It's the job of the players and the coaches to keep their nerve and take it week by week. It is not my fault that Geelong lost in 89, 92, 94 and 95. It is not because I got excited about our prospects that they lost those grand finals. As in those years, if I get excited and we lose the grand final this year, it will not be due in any way to my actions. But at least if they don't make it, you can rest easy and tell yourself it's all ok because you were never excited in the first place.

Whether I decide to get stuck into other supporters on bay 13 or post stupid threads talking us up is my business and not yours. It does not affect you, it does not affect the club, so in all honesty, all other cats posters who find reason to whinge and talk about 'the lid' can get $%ed.

As for poor old Roowards, he is jsut a kid, and he's excited about his team. I could see the signs pre-season, so I'm guessing you guys could to. If he wants to create ridiculous posts and get into it, then let him. It's not people judge you based on his posts? I don't think all West Coast posters are tools, just because FU and Hotdog ran rampant for a while. Even if other posters did think you were a tool because of something someone else had said, you are posting under an anonymous username, and it has no real effect on you as a human being. If it bothers you that much, then you should seek help, for to worry about what another anonymous poster is thinking about you, based on the thoughts of a kid is bordering on lunacy.

In summary, **** the lid - get exicted.

[WE Are Geelong]

This post isnt really about football at all...its about you... as in there is alot of "I" in there..

One thing "I"..;) agree with you about is who cares what anyone thinks. This is anonymous so say what you like within reason of course.

In the end though you are doing exactly what you are telling other people off for..you are trying to tell them how to think and are now ramming it down their throat.

If you want to scream about keeping the lid on and people posting the same way...maybe that suggests something about you and not anyone else.

Telling other people to settle down or keep an open mind whilst you go off the reservation doesnt seem to be making the sense you seem to think it makes.

If it upsets you so much there is a very simple solution to it all...

[S "Thinks He's Daicos" J]

This post isnt really about football at all...its about you... as in there is alot of "I" in there..

One thing "I"..;) agree with you about is who cares what anyone thinks. This is anonymous so say what you like within reason of course.

In the end though you are doing exactly what you are telling other people off for..you are trying to tell them how to think and are now ramming it down their throat.

If you want to scream about keeping the lid on and people posting the same way...maybe that suggests something about you and not anyone else.

Telling other people to settle down or keep an open mind whilst you go off the reservation doesnt seem to be making the sense you seem to think it makes.

If it upsets you so much there is a very simple solution to it all...
Agreed.

And can this thread be included with the other just as ridiculous one which has been popular today?

[MmkMrMackie]

Just trying to make sense out of why some people (the majority in my opinion) on this forum seem to insist on 'keeping the lid on'. Have they fallen that far out of touch with reality, that they truly think that what the nonsense thye post on this forum actually affects the result of the team? Am I perhaps posting to several players or coaching staff who do need to keep the lid on? Perhaps Thompson and co look for ideas on the weekend's team on the Geelong total footy board? Or do people really care about my state of mind?

[MmkMrMackie]

If we cannot discuss the concept of 'the lid' on bigfooty, where can we discuss it? Honestly though, what do YOU think?

[Selwood07]

A very angry "I" it seems! I guess we all need an outlet. I love this club and I love the way we've gone about things this year - I am excited in my own way as are all other Cats' supporters so I don't know why we are turning on each other!!!:confused:

[WE Are Geelong]

Just trying to make sense out of why some people (the majority in my opinion) on this forum seem to insist on 'keeping the lid on'. Have they fallen that far out of touch with reality, that they truly think that what the nonsense thye post on this forum actually affects the result of the team? Am I perhaps posting to several players or coaching staff who do need to keep the lid on? Perhaps Thompson and co look for ideas on the weekend's team on the Geelong total footy board? Or do people really care about my state of mind?

Thats a fair call. I doubt many of the people who matter at GFC really have time to read this board at all. I know if I was in their shoes I wouldnt be taking much notice. Some of its worth reading though.

I have been talking the lid down as you know mate...but in reality I am talking up keeping the status quo. Geelong has done really well with the cliche take each week as it comes this year...and a number of the players have more or less implied they want the lid kept on till September. I guess I am just echoing what has been a successful line of thinking this season so far.

Otherwise your dissertation on posting on anonymous websites makes more sense than most would like to admit.

PS September isnt that far away...

[S "Thinks He's Daicos" J]

**** the lid. Do you guys think the lid is there for you/me to save face on Bigfooty in case we lose? Is the lid there to save your/my mental state from descending into shit if we happen to lose? I don't think you guys honestly care either way in my case. If I ruin my reputation on this site (not that I haven't gone a long way to doing it already) or if I get excited and then let down, I don't think you guys would care less. Therefore, if I choose to post about grand finals etc., it is my freaking business and not yours.

The next time I see someone posting about keeping the lid on, I think I'll scream. It's the job of the players and the coaches to keep their nerve and take it week by week. It is not my fault that Geelong lost in 89, 92, 94 and 95. It is not because I got excited about our prospects that they lost those grand finals. As in those years, if I get excited and we lose the grand final this year, it will not be due in any way to my actions. But at least if they don't make it, you can rest easy and tell yourself it's all ok because you were never excited in the first place.

Whether I decide to get stuck into other supporters on bay 13 or post stupid threads talking us up is my business and not yours. It does not affect you, it does not affect the club, so in all honesty, all other cats posters who find reason to whinge and talk about 'the lid' can get $%ed.

As for poor old Roowards, he is jsut a kid, and he's excited about his team. I could see the signs pre-season, so I'm guessing you guys could to. If he wants to create ridiculous posts and get into it, then let him. It's not people judge you based on his posts? I don't think all West Coast posters are tools, just because FU and Hotdog ran rampant for a while. Even if other posters did think you were a tool because of something someone else had said, you are posting under an anonymous username, and it has no real effect on you as a human being. If it bothers you that much, then you should seek help, for to worry about what another anonymous poster is thinking about you, based on the thoughts of a kid is bordering on lunacy.

In summary, **** the lid - get exicted.
But you're contradicting yourself aren't you?

Why can't I say the exact same thing supporting the other side of the argument?

If you're allowed to talk Premierships, why are we not allowed to talk 'lids'?

[MmkMrMackie]

But you're contradicting yourself aren't you?

Why can't I say the exact same thing supporting the other side of the argument?

If you're allowed to talk Premierships, why are we not allowed to talk 'lids'?

I'm not saying that you're not allowed. I'm merely stating that you're all confused and your version of reality is quite possibly not a valid one. The lid should be reserved for the players and officials, but has no place on this board. Despite how great you think your knowledge base is, no matter how big your post total is, you do not have an impact on the weekend's result. The lid is a joke of a concept, and I do not understand why it is mentioned so much on here.

[Evil Betty]

I'll be happy for the "lid" to remain on if we can continue this form for the next 10 years

[S "Thinks He's Daicos" J]

I'm not saying that you're not allowed. I'm merely stating that you're all confused and your version of reality is quite possibly not a valid one. The lid should be reserved for the players and officials, but has no place on this board. Despite how great you think your knowledge base is, no matter how big your post total is, you do not have an impact on the weekend's result. The lid is a joke of a concept, and I do not understand why it is mentioned so much on here.
Why do you only think this has got to do with the players and officials? I'm not getting excited because I know how hurt I will be if I get carried away and we don't go the whole way. Failure will rip me to shreds as it is, but getting ahead of myself would be ridiculous.

Maybe you don't hurt as much as myself and some other supporters, but the 'lid' is as much there for me as it is for those employed by the club.

[MmkMrMackie]

Why do you only think this has got to do with the players and officials? I'm not getting excited because I know how hurt I will be if I get carried away and we don't go the whole way. Failure will rip me to shreds as it is, but getting ahead of myself would be ridiculous.

Maybe you don't hurt as much as myself and some other supporters, but the 'lid' is as much there for me as it is for those employed by the club.

If you took a more light-hearted approach to things... If you occassionally created a stupid thread talking up Geelong's premiership chances, then maybe it wouldn't get to you so much. We are all posting about a football team... A football team we have no influence on...

[Prismall32]

As has been mentioned in other posts - 'the lid' is our defence mechanism. Anyway, lighten up ladies and gents!:)

[S "Thinks He's Daicos" J]

If you took a more light-hearted approach to things... If you occassionally created a stupid thread talking up Geelong's premiership chances, then maybe it wouldn't get to you so much. We are all posting about a football team... A football team we have no influence on...
I think we've got to the bottom of this. You don't care as much as I do. That's fine. Discussion over.

[Mr_Catt]

ahhh living in the paint can that is geelong can be tedious cant it- with its lids and all. :p

[MmkMrMackie]

I think we've got to the bottom of this. You don't care as much as I do. That's fine. Discussion over.

I highly doubt it.

[Jase123]

amazing, someone who thinks the same of the lid as i do.

[cats2rise]

I'll do what I want thank you.

And that is to be reserved, till we actually accomplish something and then be the biggest wanker BigFooty has ever seen and visit the Hawthorn and St Kilda boards till I get banned after the Grand Final.

Things are looking good this year. Lets sit back and enjoy it.

[GAPH]

If you were to ask me who I think will win the flag, I would have to say the WEagles. They play well on the G in finals. They all have Grand Final experience having been in the last two.

I think that both Hawthorn and West Coast could beat Geelong in the finals and the Cats have a poor record in finals against both teams.

I would have to see Harley holding that cup aloft at 5pm on Grand Final day before I believe that they can win it.

________________________________________
"Unless I see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe"

I don't remember this Geelong list playing the current Hawthorn or WC list in finals? All this irrelevant crap from the past is just that, irrelevant crap. So what if Hawthorn beat us in 89', should we all be worried about playing them now, even though none of those players from 89 are even playing?
It's a good thing we don't have to play Richmond in the finals, because we all know what happened in 1967!!!

[griff]

sorry but this pisses me off, bring up this question when we are in the flippin grand final..seriously

[dmc82]

I think the lid is in full effect here on BF because we get the odd fool going on as if we've already won it and giving us all a bad name. For me, the lid is on until there's good reason to remove it.

[dmc82]

In a word.... no

[Reg Hickey]

... so my concern is that although we would eventually start playing to our potential, would it come too late? Would we just be playing catch-up footy after a slow start?

Helloooooo 1989!

[Copernicus]

I'll do what I want thank you.

And that is to be reserved, till we actually accomplish something and then be the biggest wanker BigFooty has ever seen and visit the Hawthorn and St Kilda boards till I get banned after the Grand Final.

Things are looking good this year. Lets sit back and enjoy it.

Haha, sounds good, wouldn't it be nice to rub it in to fishbowl? Okay, what am I talking about, rubbing a GF win in to an anonymous bloke on a messageboard... ah hell, that'd be great!

I'm not for keeping the 'lid' on nor am I against it - Like many of us, we've endured years of disappointment and getting ahead of ourselves may wind up being painful, but I'm not going to deny that we are easily the best team in the land at the moment. Whether it stays that way until the end of September remains to be seen.

[winty]

I don't remember this Geelong list playing the current Hawthorn or WC list in finals? All this irrelevant crap from the past is just that, irrelevant crap. So what if Hawthorn beat us in 89', should we all be worried about playing them now, even though none of those players from 89 are even playing?
It's a good thing we don't have to play Richmond in the finals, because we all know what happened in 1967!!!

Spot on GAPH! Essendon beat us for the flag in 1897 too. Hope we don't have to play them in the finals too. :p

Even results from earlier in the season are irrelevant in the scheme of things. For example, in the Hawthorn game earlier in the season, there were four players who played against the Bulldogs who weren't playing in Round 4. Essentially, the changes were:

In: S.Johnson, Selwood, Ottens, Harley
Out: Prismall, King, Scarlett, N.Ablett

A few pretty handy players we had out that day. Might have won if that quartet was playing.

[FTW_]

I have had a gutful of this "keep the lid on it" stuff.


I'm keeping a lid on it.
It seems to be doing the job quite well.
;)

[Cheshire Cat]

Haha, sounds good, wouldn't it be nice to rub it in to fishbowl? Okay, what am I talking about, rubbing a GF win in to an anonymous bloke on a messageboard... ah hell, that'd be great!

I'm not for keeping the 'lid' on nor am I against it - Like many of us, we've endured years of disappointment and getting ahead of ourselves may wind up being painful, but I'm not going to deny that we are easily the best team in the land at the moment. Whether it stays that way until the end of September remains to be seen

The only problem with people telling us to take the lid off is that they are either ignorant or telling lies about their confidence. Noone involved with this club over the last 20 years can be anything but sceptical. By now its not in my nature to be confident, even if this is only BF. I'm not going to go all over-confident just because I'm anonymous behind the keyboard. I call it as I see. I'm sceptical.

[Braun_2_B_Wild]

no :D

[chapmanmagic35]

I don't remember this Geelong list playing the current Hawthorn or WC list in finals? All this irrelevant crap from the past is just that, irrelevant crap. So what if Hawthorn beat us in 89', should we all be worried about playing them now, even though none of those players from 89 are even playing?
It's a good thing we don't have to play Richmond in the finals, because we all know what happened in 1967!!!

I agree wholeheartedly. Frustrates me to tears.

1992/1994 is more than a decade ago now - what relevance does it have to the players?

[CatmanForever]

I don't remember this Geelong list playing the current Hawthorn or WC list in finals? All this irrelevant crap from the past is just that, irrelevant crap. So what if Hawthorn beat us in 89', should we all be worried about playing them now, even though none of those players from 89 are even playing?
It's a good thing we don't have to play Richmond in the finals, because we all know what happened in 1967!!!


It's ok GAPH, MrmmMackie is going to build a time machine and take our 2007 team back through all our lost GF's and win each one.....in his reality that is ;)

[Stripey PJs]

With all the other issues surrounding the AFL lately (i.e coaching), it has helped with the lid being tightly closed. The media focus has not been on the GFC all that much. This will to be a good thing right!!!
Right. Except this time it's Sheeds. Essendon. Bombers. Bomber.
The speculation surrounding Bomber's future could prove disruptive. Jake Niall, an Essendon fan according to a friend, has already written a piece suggesting the Cats could be in trouble if they don't immediately re-sign Bomber. I don't believe either the club or Bomber will be talking, let alone signing, contracts, choosing instead to honour their agreement to wait until season's end, so we'll likely hear this chatter for the next 10 weeks.

I'm growing uneasy. I may be wrong, but I'm sensing some of the players are struggling to retain their grasp on the lid. If MrGFC's crystal-balling on Chappy's injury is correct, then so are the coaching staff. Cameron Ling was sounding a little too 'round 3 season 06' for my liking in the last interview I heard.

(They must be reading MrmmMackie's posts)

[MmkMrMackie]

Right. Except this time it's Sheeds. Essendon. Bombers. Bomber.
The speculation surrounding Bomber's future could prove disruptive. Jake Niall, an Essendon fan according to a friend, has already written a piece suggesting the Cats could be in trouble if they don't immediately re-sign Bomber. I don't believe either the club or Bomber will be talking, let alone signing, contracts, choosing instead to honour their agreement to wait until season's end, so we'll likely hear this chatter for the next 10 weeks.

I'm growing uneasy. I may be wrong, but I'm sensing some of the players are struggling to retain their grasp on the lid. If MrGFC's crystal-balling on Chappy's injury is correct, then so are the coaching staff. Cameron Ling was sounding a little too 'round 3 season 06' for my liking in the last interview I heard.

(They must be reading MrmmMackie's posts)

Lol. Yes, perhaps!

[tin can sam]

This isn't a poll because I want people to put their name to their answer, and it's a simple question. Keep in mind, the people who are saying "Yes" are not saying "we'll do it easy" and the people saying "No" are not saying "we have no chance in hell" people seem to get those confused.

This also isn't what you HOPE.

personally, I think We WILL win the flag this year.

[Duskfire]

Yes. The talent is there, the players are there; all the Cats need to do is keep a mental focus, remain as disciplined as they have been and not get too carried away. If we get an attitude similiar to last year we're doomed, but if we keep on playing the way we have been with the determination and ruthlessness that has gotten us this far, then the skys the limit.

[S "Thinks He's Daicos" J]

I think we have a good a chance as any. How that can be transferred into an answer to your question, I don't know.

[The rabbi]

The short answer is NO. I think that I saw the premiership side last night flog the Doggies. I had the Eagles for back to back earlier in the year but their hickup with injuries to key players and a couple of thrashings made me waver. I think that they are back on track for the flag. They look physically very strong and keen towards the business end of the year.

I am just not convinced about Geelong. I have followed them for too long and seen them capitulate on the big stage. My heart says that I would love the Cats to win the premiership but my head says that it is back to back for the Weagles.

[Skeppersap]

The short answer is NO. I think that I saw the premiership side last night flog the Doggies. I had the Eagles for back to back earlier in the year but their hickup with injuries to key players and a couple of thrashings made me waver. I think that they are back on track for the flag. They look physically very strong and keen towards the business end of the year.

I am just not convinced about Geelong. I have followed them for too long and seen them capitulate on the big stage. My heart says that I would love the Cats to win the premiership but my head says that it is back to back for the Weagles.

you didnt see a team do a similar thing last friday night? If Geelong had kept their foot on the pedal last week it would have been a 100+ point flogging.

So whats the difference?

[Duskfire]

you didnt see a team do a similar thing last friday night? If Geelong had kept their foot on the pedal last week it would have been a 100+ point flogging.

So whats the difference?

It was obvious against the Bulldogs that Geelong just let up on the intensity a bit and played just good enough to keep that good lead going. And when Bulldogs got within 45 points or whatnot, Cats put on the accelator again and stormed away.

Not to mention last night against the Dockers we were awesome; a bit inaccurate but still. I have been too disheartened in the past too, but looking at this side play I just can't help but be buoyed.