View Full Version : Josh Hunt???
Rustybugles
17 Jul 2007, 11:04
What did you all think about his contribution on Saturday? (Please don't just sledge him for past mistakes)
catempire
17 Jul 2007, 11:09
Thought he was reasonable.
His kicking was good except for one wayward pass to Mooney in the last quarter that went nowhere near him.
His defensive work was good and after going onto Davis, he hardly good a sniff. Davis missed a few goals though which, if they’d gone through, would have made Hunt’s game look worse.
He also managed to get in a defensive fist on a couple of occasions to help out his team mates. He needs to do more of this.
Something to build on.
Ling Sting
17 Jul 2007, 11:27
the bloke hears footsteps coming.
He did a dinky little slap in the hole in front of Rocca, when he could have marked it instead.
Besides that I thought his game was reasonable. With DJ & Callen ready made replacements I'd give him another 2-3 games to really put his hand up for september and get some form.
crosby123
17 Jul 2007, 11:46
Unlike the other defenders though (even Mackie), he doesn't back into contests to help his teammates out (Enright, Harley, Egan, Milburn do this many times every game). Is why I want DJ, pretty sure he'd happily put his body on the line.
thejester
17 Jul 2007, 11:54
Thought he was alright, didn't do anything really bad but there were some signs of 'old Josh'. Give him a few more weeks.
the bloke hears footsteps coming.
He did a dinky little slap in the hole in front of Rocca, when he could have marked it instead.
Besides that I thought his game was reasonable. With DJ & Callen ready made replacements I'd give him another 2-3 games to really put his hand up for september and get some form.
How many times is he going to do this? Happy to dish out the tough stuff in the contest but won't run back into the hole. That effort was embarassing. He also refuses to man up. Being an outstanding user of the ball doesn't entitle you to stop doing the team things. He should get another go this week but I's sure the coaching hierachy would be well aware of his continued limitations.
the bloke hears footsteps coming.
He did a dinky little slap in the hole in front of Rocca, when he could have marked it instead.
Besides that I thought his game was reasonable. With DJ & Callen ready made replacements I'd give him another 2-3 games to really put his hand up for september and get some form.
That dinky little slap was good play! It was deliberately knocked to Harley and allowed us to quickly counter attack while Hunt whikle simultaneously allowing Hunt to keep his feet. He could have thrown himself at the ball and taken a courageous grab but at best that would have slowed play down while Hunt recovered. There was a high risk of dropping the mark though and if Rocca wins posession while Hunt is on the ground recovering, the man he peeled off is roaming free. You can't knock Hunt for that one.
Kept Didak uncharacteristically quite however did not do a lot on the rebound. All in all a reasonable performance.
[QUOTE=DanA;8138837]That dinky little slap was soft! Edited for accuracy.
Have you ever played football at any level DanA? An effort like that shouldn't be tolerated. He went half hearted at best. That Harley ended up with it was purley luck.
Prismall32
17 Jul 2007, 12:14
Not totally convinced but certainly helped to hold Pies' often elusive forwards in check and I give him credit for that. Is it lack of confidence that lets him down or poor decision making? Deserves a few more games to prove himself and adjust to the demands of the seniors again. I hope he reads bigfooty posts!
CatmanForever
17 Jul 2007, 12:22
Has he bulked up more or is it just that I haven't seen him in a while?? He looked very strong. Didn't think at the time he had a great game but then I heard the commentators talking him up. Next time I watched that game I took more notice of him and thought he wasnb't to bad. Couple of things mentioned above but serviceable on the day.
Ling Sting
17 Jul 2007, 12:40
That dinky little slap was good play! It was deliberately knocked to Harley and allowed us to quickly counter attack while Hunt whikle simultaneously allowing Hunt to keep his feet. He could have thrown himself at the ball and taken a courageous grab but at best that would have slowed play down while Hunt recovered. There was a high risk of dropping the mark though and if Rocca wins posession while Hunt is on the ground recovering, the man he peeled off is roaming free. You can't knock Hunt for that one.
Kept Didak uncharacteristically quite however did not do a lot on the rebound. All in all a reasonable performance.
it only looked like that cause we had numbers at the drop. It went to the deck and could have bounced anywhere. Let's not revert to the cute indirect rubbish we saw last year.
If you can take a saving mark in defence then do it.
I still think he deserves a couple more games but if this type of courage continues of in a consistent manner should bring back DJ and seriously question Hunt's future with the club.
[quote=DanA;8138837]That dinky little slap was soft! Edited for accuracy.
Have you ever played football at any level DanA? An effort like that shouldn't be tolerated. He went half hearted at best. That Harley ended up with it was purley luck.
Nah I leave the footy to the hard nuts like you mate.
Your right it was pure luck that the ball ended in Harley's hand. Couldn't possibly have known Harley was there.
Ling Sting
17 Jul 2007, 12:51
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Nah I leave the footy to the hard nut's like you mate.
Your right it was pure luck that the ball ended in Harley's hand. Couldn't possibly have known Harley was there.
it landed on the deck.....king could have tapped that to advantage better.
it only looked like that cause we had numbers at the drop. It went to the deck and could have bounced anywhere. Let's not revert to the cute indirect rubbish we saw last year.
If you can take a saving mark in defence then do it.
I still think he deserves a couple more games but if this type of courage continues of in a consistent manner should bring back DJ and seriously question Hunt's future with the club.
I only saw it once but I don't think he was more than 50/50 to take the mark and absolutely no chance of keeping his feet if he attempted it.
I would suggest he knew exactly where Harley was and at full stretch he made the split second decision that it was better not to go for the mark. There was also an occasion latter iin the game when Ling was going for a mark and purposely dropped the mark to his left side to the advantage of our players at his feet. A similar circustance happened to Steve Johnson either this week or last where he got the ball to fall behind when contesting overhead. AFL is not like suburban footy, they frequently pull of stuff people consider a fluke.
[quote=DanA;8139108]
it landed on the deck.....king could have tapped that to advantage better.
Anyway you put it was a turn over which resulted in clear possesion to Geelong.
Selwood07
17 Jul 2007, 13:07
Give him the benefit of the doubt. If we'd lost I bet there would be the usual blasts for Hunt as gutless, dumb and unskilled (except for the long kick) and calls for him to be dropped. I was at the game and was heart in mouth for most of the day expecting Collingwood's usual resurgence but watching the replay I thought we had much more control of the game and I didn't think Hunt was too bad in a stellar back half - he still has to work hard to earn respect but we should keep him there for the time being. (Also, I saw him at training last Friday and I didn't think he had that useless bulk he carried previously.)
crosby123
17 Jul 2007, 13:12
That dinky little slap was good play! It was deliberately knocked to Harley and allowed us to quickly counter attack while Hunt whikle simultaneously allowing Hunt to keep his feet. He could have thrown himself at the ball and taken a courageous grab but at best that would have slowed play down while Hunt recovered. There was a high risk of dropping the mark though and if Rocca wins posession while Hunt is on the ground recovering, the man he peeled off is roaming free. You can't knock Hunt for that one.
Kept Didak uncharacteristically quite however did not do a lot on the rebound. All in all a reasonable performance.
Hunt on Didak? Sure you don't mean Davis? Because I'm 100% sure that Mackie was playing on Didak.
Hunt on Didak? Sure you don't mean Davis? Because I'm 100% sure that Mackie was playing on Didak.
Sorry yeah Davis was also quite. Only the one play I remeber where he showed Hunt a clean set of heels on the boundary.
crosby123
17 Jul 2007, 13:17
Sorry yeah Davis was also quite. Only the one play I remeber where he showed Hunt a clean set of heels on the boundary.
Davis kicked 4 behinds. If he'd converted, we'd all be calling for Hunt to be dropped.
I think he played a reasonable game. Let's be honest, it was a high pressured game and mistakes were made on both sides, and Hunt made no more than anyone else.
I thought he was a good inclusion to the side on the day and a few more weeks in the seniors will see him back to where he should be.
cat_fanatic_21
17 Jul 2007, 13:19
Hunt was solid. One thing i noticed was his disposal, particularly by hand, was very accurate and penetrative on Saturday.
He is still lacking confidence. There was a passage of play where Hunt was streaming into the forward line, could have gone on and kicked one of his notorious thumpers from fifty, but decided to drop it short. His confidence will have risen after the win.
Selection dilemma for the Doggies: D. Johnson usually gets Aka, do we bring him in? Who for?
BigPete38
17 Jul 2007, 13:27
the bloke hears footsteps coming.
He did a dinky little slap in the hole in front of Rocca, when he could have marked it instead.
Besides that I thought his game was reasonable. With DJ & Callen ready made replacements I'd give him another 2-3 games to really put his hand up for september and get some form.
He has got a pea heart thats why the dons gave him the flick.
Davis kicked 4 behinds. If he'd converted, we'd all be calling for Hunt to be dropped.
Most of those would have been miracle goals from quick posessions where Hunt was on his hammer.
Davis also played a half a quarter on the ball where he got most of his possions.
Johnson has a ripping record against Akermanis. Aker is in fine form, so do we bring Johnson back in this week? If so, who goes out? Hunt seems the likely contender.
May happen because I think he usually gets Aker doesn't he?
Stripey PJs
17 Jul 2007, 15:05
May happen because I think he usually gets Aker doesn't he?
Aye, and he was absent during the rain-drenched Gabba massacre when Aker produced 5, including those two scintillating boundary line miracles. I would've said "nah, it's 07, Aker's not worth the trouble", if it hadn't been for his form in the past fortnight. As Sttew noted, he's played very well, and it would be a mistake to underestimate his worth, especially his clutch time effectiveness.
However, while I believe DJ's more accountable than Josh Hunt, I can't see a switch being made. It'd be a mistake to slice and dice the team so soon after Hunt's replaced Rooke. If he was considered good enough to contain Collingwood's small forwards, he'll be considered good enough against the Dogs. I'd imagine Enright would be the preferred option on Aker anyway, with Hunt plan B.
Besides, I'm getting tired of winning. Boooring. Let's give the Dogs a chance.
He has got a pea heart thats why the dons gave him the flick.
More proof that ALL Hawthorn fans are dumb arses.
This thread is about Josh Hunt,not Sam :rolleyes:
turtlemanistic
17 Jul 2007, 15:15
I thought that he played alright. He did his job, had some good kicks and handpasses, and laid a couple of pretty ferocious tackles which is worth seeing.
Tonycam*
17 Jul 2007, 15:25
I thought that he played alright. He did his job, had some good kicks and handpasses, and laid a couple of pretty ferocious tackles which is worth seeing.
True Hunt didnt really do anything worth being dropped over in his return but the fact is Johnson always does a good job on Aker and if he is to come back in it would have to be for Hunt. unfortunate as it is. We are in a problem now that anyone who is dropped from this side is very unfortunate.
sarah.13
17 Jul 2007, 15:31
True Hunt didnt really do anything worth being dropped over in his return but the fact is Johnson always does a good job on Aker and if he is to come back in it would have to be for Hunt. unfortunate as it is. We are in a problem now that anyone who is dropped from this side is very unfortunate.
Good problem to have Tony.Hunt is too loose to play on Aker. Johnson is too slow and lacks rebounding Ability.
How about Woja and Aker head to head?
Tonycam*
17 Jul 2007, 15:41
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Good problem to have Tony.Hunt is too loose to play on Aker. Johnson is too slow and lacks rebounding Ability.
How about Woja and Aker head to head?
DJ has been in fairly good form lately in the 2s , and with his record on Aker must be a chance. plus the fact that back in 2005 when Johnson didnt play Aker got something like 32 poss didnt he and 5 goals. worth a go
sarah.13
17 Jul 2007, 16:04
DJ has been in fairly good form lately in the 2s , and with his record on Aker must be a chance. plus the fact that back in 2005 when Johnson didnt play Aker got something like 32 poss didnt he and 5 goals. worth a go
Agree about the past,but Aker seems to be playing further up the ground at the moment and Dj might not have the speed or stamina to keep up.
Selwood07
17 Jul 2007, 16:50
More proof that ALL Hawthorn fans are dumb arses.
This thread is about Josh Hunt,not Sam :rolleyes:
Thanks for the clarification - I had no idea what this dimwit was talking about since Josh came from Bendigo U 18s as far as I know!!!
cats2rise
17 Jul 2007, 18:32
Regarding the 'dinky little slap.'
Very good play. A very low chance of him taking the mark as he had to double back, was unbalanced reaching above his head. He saw the player at the 50m and hit it to him.
If our player was not there, it would have been bad but he still would have not been able to take the mark anyway.
CatFan79
17 Jul 2007, 18:45
Unlike the other defenders though (even Mackie), he doesn't back into contests to help his teammates out (Enright, Harley, Egan, Milburn do this many times every game). Is why I want DJ, pretty sure he'd happily put his body on the line.
DJ has been criticised in the past for committing to too many marking contests while his (small forward) opponent cleans up the crumbs..
I guess there's a fine line between helping your team mate out and being accountable for your opponent.
cat in sydney
17 Jul 2007, 19:00
Regarding the 'dinky little slap.'
Very good play. A very low chance of him taking the mark as he had to double back, was unbalanced reaching above his head. He saw the player at the 50m and hit it to him.
If our player was not there, it would have been bad but he still would have not been able to take the mark anyway.
Tend to agree. At first I thought he was going to be able to get back and take the mark, and perhaps a faster defender would have been able to, but I think in the end he was unlikely to take the grab. He wouldn't have known that Rocca was probably too far away to take it anyway.
I have a feeling that Josh was running back, knowing he wasn't going to be able to take the mark, and had two options. One, back out and cop the crap from everyone about ducking, or do what he did, noticing that Harley was open and that Rocca may have been going for the mark, by doing the percentage play, knowing we had the numbers at the fall of the ball.
All that said... I think DJ would be a better defender for this week considering the opposition. Tough to get dropped when all things being equal he doesn't really deserve it on the back of that game.
cellis84
17 Jul 2007, 22:26
boys boys boys, there was no reason 4 joshy 2 b dropped in the 1st place, he is 1 of my faiv players, and all u idiots crapping on about him bng soft on the back of 1 incident last yr. have a look.
he has done nothing wrong this yr, and he seems 2 b the scapegoat 4 every1 including thompson when things go wrong.
that said, i think we r a beta side with D.J in, and joshy is prob the likely bloke 2 drop 2 get him back in.
i have just bn worried the last few wks seeing charlie gardners name in the emergencies list, i really hope this poor bloke isnt being seriously considred 4 selection again! 1 of our biggest chops along with spencer, playfair and lonergan
Nothing to write home about.
Some of his marking was woeful at times, and really begs for the DJ replacement. However, his kicking was better for the most part, and his attack on the ball (and contests in general) was encouraging to see.
Prismall32
18 Jul 2007, 08:54
boys boys boys, there was no reason 4 joshy 2 b dropped in the 1st place, he is 1 of my faiv players, and all u idiots crapping on about him bng soft on the back of 1 incident last yr. have a look.
he has done nothing wrong this yr, and he seems 2 b the scapegoat 4 every1 including thompson when things go wrong.
that said, i think we r a beta side with D.J in, and joshy is prob the likely bloke 2 drop 2 get him back in.
i have just bn worried the last few wks seeing charlie gardners name in the emergencies list, i really hope this poor bloke isnt being seriously considred 4 selection again! 1 of our biggest chops along with spencer, playfair and lonergan
This glamorises Josh a bit! He's been in the 2s for so many games - and even here his frustration at being played there was noted and made too public by Josh himself. Forget about the hasbeens - but Josh will have to earn his spot with eqally competent players in the wings. I don't think anyone has really stressed his past errors - we are living an exciting present and he has to be an effective part of it.
thegerman
18 Jul 2007, 10:41
Josh played ok, however at times could have looked a lot worse. If and it is a big 'if' Davis' goals had gone though that could have changed the game which would've made Hunt's game a lot worse that it was.
Also an interesting comment from Walls during the third quarter that Hunt was nearly 50m off Davis during one stage.
I know Walls has a lot to say about Geelong, however that was interesting seeing that he was brought back into the team to stop the smaller forwards of Collingwood doing anything.
I'd like to see some more gametime and hopefully some improvement, otherwise it wasn't a terrible game by Hunt. He did ok, broke the lines a few times and with his size he should do that more often.