View Full Version : Roughhead, legend status after 5 g v the tiges
Bojangles17
22 Jul 2007, 00:16
I wonder what some of those $%^#heads that saw fit to lampoon the tigers for recruiting Lids over Roughead are saying after his 3k 1M 0g performance tonight...would seem to me that many were prepared to put these young tyros up for legend status on the performance against the bottom side...nevermind the games either side against adelaide and st.kilda...they must count for $%# all....oh well, as they say, never let the truth get in the way of a good story:o
Tigers41*
22 Jul 2007, 00:57
i was just waiting for someone to make a post like that, roughead only played well against sh*t defences (carlton, and tigers), big bloody woop
And how dare robert walls say that roughead be better than deledio, hes as stupid as he is ugly
bigpapagman
22 Jul 2007, 01:12
robert walls. well. i like spud more than him.
i was just waiting for someone to make a post like that, roughead only played well against shit defences (carlton, and tigers), big bloody woopExactly Roughead can't play against teams with any sort of defence, he wont make it.
Magic17
22 Jul 2007, 02:15
It does piss me off how little scrutiny Roughie is under when you see the heat Tambling cops.
Really he's done very little for a number 2 draft pick.
It does piss me off how little scrutiny Roughie is under when you see the heat Tambling cops.
Really he's done very little for a number 2 draft pick.
Yeah, but you see, Tambling plays for the no hopers Richmond whereas Roughead plays for the young and exciting Hawks, its a whole different ball game.
NQTIGER
22 Jul 2007, 09:19
Would it not be alaugh if they miss the finals........lol
Yeah, but you see, Tambling plays for the no hopers Richmond whereas Roughead plays for the young and exciting Hawks, its a whole different ball game.
I wonder what some of those $%^#heads that saw fit to lampoon the tigers for recruiting Lids over Roughead are saying after his 3k 1M 0g performance tonight...would seem to me that many were prepared to put these young tyros up for legend status on the performance against the bottom side...nevermind the games either side against adelaide and st.kilda...they must count for $%# all....oh well, as they say, never let the truth get in the way of a good story:o
Not that we deserve any respect but HKB sums it up pretty well .
Robert Walls is the past master at using the benefit of "hindsight" to make himself sound intelligent and knowledgeable .
I was LMAOO @ Walls at one stage in the call of that game last night when he was talking up how good Roughead was when the ball hits the deck becase he managed to scrummage a handball out of a pack ....
Walls is the biggest d.ick in the media and should be paid no mind whatsoever . 99% of his comments are just ridiculously cliche`d pieces of drivel . I love it when he calls Essendon games and he tells us five times during the call what a champion James Hird is ... thanks for that Rob :thumbsu:
Sad thing is channel 10 continues to subject us to it
The Birch
22 Jul 2007, 13:32
Lets be realistic guys, Its easy to take potshots at each of our teams, but both Roughie and Tambling have alot of work to do. Really, out of that top 5, only Buddy has looked like a superstar, but he needs to be alot more consistent, to be any where near that status.
Always remember guys, these blokes are only still 20 years of age, wait until they reach 24 - 25, and then see where they are at. Roughie will be a top liner and so will Tambling. But it will take them abit longer than the likes of Buddy, Deledio and Griffen to reach the higher level of consistant performance.
If the draft was held again, at this very moment I feel it would look like this: Buddy, Deledio, Griffen, Roughie, Tambling. But in two years time, it could change all over again! Just be patient guys, I think all these top 5 picks will come up with the goods, remember we are talking about 20 year old kids!!
Ah Cheung
22 Jul 2007, 15:41
Not that we deserve any respect but HKB sums it up pretty well .
Robert Walls is the past master at using the benefit of "hindsight" to make himself sound intelligent and knowledgeable .
I was LMAOO @ Walls at one stage in the call of that game last night when he was talking up how good Roughead was when the ball hits the deck becase he managed to scrummage a handball out of a pack ....
Walls is the biggest d.ick in the media and should be paid no mind whatsoever . 99% of his comments are just ridiculously cliche`d pieces of drivel . I love it when he calls Essendon games and he tells us five times during the call what a champion James Hird is ... thanks for that Rob :thumbsu:
Sad thing is channel 10 continues to subject us to it
Agree with this, Walls knows all - 3 years after its happened...
GhostofJimJess
22 Jul 2007, 18:11
Really, out of that top 5, only Buddy has looked like a superstar,
What constitutes superstar nowadays? A key forward with less than 50 goals in a year and no games with more than 9 marks?
According to my definition of the word "superstar", there are at present none from the 2004 national draft. In fact, there would only be about 20 "superstars" in the league, otherwise the impact of such a description becomes so diluted we begin to attach a different meaning to the term.
Admittedly, Franklin and Deledio look most likely to achieve this label, based on what I've seen in their first 50-ish games. But they're both one hell of a long way off being real superstars like Pavlich, Brown (J and N) and Harvey.
Hell, Leigh Colbert just called Daniel Wells a superstar in an interview!!
cradle of filth
22 Jul 2007, 19:30
i agree that Robert Walls is completely out of line saying that the tigers should have taken Roughead instead but i do think some of you are being a bit harsh is saying that roughead is shit.
He's getting better and now dealing with more opposition attention.
randy_stote
22 Jul 2007, 19:44
Yeah, but you see, Tambling plays for the no hopers Richmond whereas Roughead plays for the young and exciting Hawks, its a whole different ball game.
Roughead does play for the young and exciting hawks, tambling plays for coburg. Id rather 3 kicks from roughead in the 1s than 25 kicks from tambling at coburg. Roughead at his best is a solid afl player who will give his all take a couple contested marks and kick 40 goals a year. Tambling at his best is an outside midfielder who doesnt do any defensive work but may win the 2010 sandover medal.
The Birch
22 Jul 2007, 19:46
[quote=GhostofJimJess;8185940]What constitutes superstar nowadays? A key forward with less than 50 goals in a year and no games with more than 9 marks?
Isn't it funny how people only quote what they want to quote, to make a story sound even better? lol
If you go back to what I said, the 50 goal forward, who marks the ball no more than 9 times a game, has got to be alot more consistant before you could even contemplate putting him in the superstar category!
Are you sure your not caroline wilson, ghost of jim jess? lol oh sorry, she might get me sacked for writing that, lol
Roughead does play for the young and exciting hawks, tambling plays for coburg. Id rather 3 kicks from roughead in the 1s than 25 kicks from tambling at coburg. Roughead at his best is a solid afl player who will give his all take a couple contested marks and kick 40 goals a year. Tambling at his best is an outside midfielder who doesnt do any defensive work but may win the 2010 sandover medal.
That is the most pathetic quote I have ever heard, Tambling plays for Coburg, he has played one match for Coburg this year, Roughead has been there this year too, of course you would take 3 kicks in the 1s to 25 in the 2s because the 2s don't count to AFL, but when Tambling and Roughead are playing in the 1s they are just about even in disposal, not to mention Roughead is only averaging .6 of a goal more than Tambling this year while Tambling averages over 4 more disposals and 1.5 more Tackles in the same amount of games this year, so technically Tambling is having a better year
tony_montana
22 Jul 2007, 20:34
I wonder what some of those $%^#heads that saw fit to lampoon the tigers for recruiting Lids over Roughead are saying after his 3k 1M 0g performance tonight...would seem to me that many were prepared to put these young tyros up for legend status on the performance against the bottom side...nevermind the games either side against adelaide and st.kilda...they must count for $%# all....oh well, as they say, never let the truth get in the way of a good story:o
bang on, beat me to the punch Bo, but ofcourse you wont hear boo about it, bc slagging off everything that is richmond is what sells papers. Roughead has a couple of good games against the 2 worst defences and suddenly hes repaid and justified his draft selection, never mind the regular 5 possie games he has.
Bojangles17
22 Jul 2007, 20:44
[QUOTE=GhostofJimJess;8185940]What constitutes superstar nowadays? QUOTE]
depends whether you're talking to a hawk supported or not, would appear a couple of days out against a bottom side or two is the going rate these days:eek:
dipper86
22 Jul 2007, 20:51
That is the most pathetic quote I have ever heard, Tambling plays for Coburg, he has played one match for Coburg this year, Roughead has been there this year too, of course you would take 3 kicks in the 1s to 25 in the 2s because the 2s don't count to AFL, but when Tambling and Roughead are playing in the 1s they are just about even in disposal, not to mention Roughead is only averaging .6 of a goal more than Tambling this year while Tambling averages over 4 more disposals and 1.5 more Tackles in the same amount of games this year, so technically Tambling is having a better year
Tecnically you have no idea, One is a KPP taking the best full back, the other is a a squib named Tambling gathering uncontessted posession, atm he isn't even doing that.
The Birch
22 Jul 2007, 21:10
[quote=GhostofJimJess;8185940]What constitutes superstar nowadays? QUOTE]
depends whether you're talking to a hawk supported or not, would appear a couple of days out against a bottom side or two is the going rate these days:eek:
Your not admitting that the side that Terry Wallace stated as being 2 years more adavanced than the Hawthorn side back in 2004, is now a bottom side?:eek:
Tecnically you have no idea, One is a KPP taking the best full back, the other is a a squib named Tambling gathering uncontessted posession, atm he isn't even doing that.
Then why is it that Hawthorn fans, and other members of media can compare Tambling and Franklin but when it comes to Tambling and Roughead it is a no go zone???
dipper86
22 Jul 2007, 21:32
Then why is it that Hawthorn fans, and other members of media can compare Tambling and Franklin but when it comes to Tambling and Roughead it is a no go zone???
Comapare all you like, Rouhead has been very good for a stay at home fullforward taking the fullback. He has showed steady improvment for a 20 year old Kpp which is all you can ask. Roughead has been the better this year.
Realistic Tiger
22 Jul 2007, 21:45
Tecnically you have no idea, One is a KPP taking the best full back, the other is a a squib named Tambling gathering uncontessted posession, atm he isn't even doing that.
Just which top quality FB's is Roughy playing well against because I can't recall one. Has he beaten any of Fletcher, Rutten, Glass, Barry or Scarlett? No he has done squat against quality opposition so stop trying to make it sound like he has done something great against quality because the simple fact is he has not.
I mean for crying out loud if Hawks fans are going to start labelling Roughead a potential star then I gather it entitles us to label Jack Riewoldt the same thing. After all a potential star like Roughead is averaging 8.4 possies, 3.4 marks, 0.9 tackles & 1.6 goals a game in his 3rd year then a first year kid like Jack to be averaging 7 possies, 4 marks, 1.7 tackles & 1 goal a game in his first year should be also labelled as a potential star.
GhostofJimJess
22 Jul 2007, 22:37
Isn't it funny how people only quote what they want to quote, to make a story sound even better? lol
Yeah, fair enough Birch. I did truncate that a bit. I assure you that it was due to haste though, not intentionally. Apologies for not showing how you qualified your superstar claim straight after.
I still stand by my contention that "superstar" is a label too easily thrown about now. At present there is perhaps two dozen in the comp - the Hawks definitely have one (Shane Crawford), and we have one that definitely was up until his serious injury (Nathan Brown) and one that probably still is (Richo).
dipper86
22 Jul 2007, 22:59
Just which top quality FB's is Roughy playing well against because I can't recall one. Has he beaten any of Fletcher, Rutten, Glass, Barry or Scarlett? No he has done squat against quality opposition so stop trying to make it sound like he has done something great against quality because the simple fact is he has not.
You are right, Bowden and Polak arent quality defenders. The point i was making is that your fellow supporter said that Tambling has had the better year because he has had better numbers in terms of posessions, but Tambling doesn't have to deal with taking on the best defenders in the game, he inturns has to deal with getting free uncontessted ball on the wings, which he actually can't get a sniff of atm.
Hilarious you were also singing the same tune about Franklin kicking goals against lowly teams last year. Fact is Roughead is coming along very nicely for a 20 year old KPP playing against seasoned defenders. :)
I mean for crying out loud if Hawks fans are going to start labelling Roughead a potential star then I gather it entitles us to label Jack Riewoldt the same thing. After all a potential star like Roughead is averaging 8.4 possies, 3.4 marks, 0.9 tackles & 1.6 goals a game in his 3rd year then a first year kid like Jack to be averaging 7 possies, 4 marks, 1.7 tackles & 1 goal a game in his first year should be also labelled as a potential star.
Label who you like, Hawthorn supporters have seen enough of Roughead to know that he is going to be a very good player for the HFC, he has shown more than enough for a 20 year old.
Realistic Tiger
22 Jul 2007, 23:05
You are right, Bowden and Polak arent quality defenders. The point i was making is that your fellow supporter said that Tambling has had better numbers in terms of posessions, but Tambling doesn't have to deal with taking on the best defenders in the game, he inturns has to deal with getting free uncontessted ball on the wings, which he actually can't get a sniff of atm.
Hilarious you were also singing the same tune about Franklin kicking goals against lowely teams last year. Fact is he is coming along very nicely for a 20 year old KPP playing against seasoned defenders. :)
Label who you like, Hawthorn supporters have seen enough of Roughead to know that he is going to be a very good player for the HFC, he has shown more than enough for a 20 year old.
Again I ask which top line FB's has Roughead beaten because that was your claim (see below). Polak and JB are quality defenders (at times) but they are not top line FB's. Remember is was your claim not ours.
Tecnically you have no idea, One is a KPP taking the best full back, the other is a a squib named Tambling gathering uncontessted posession, atm he isn't even doing that.
Comapare all you like, Rouhead has been very good for a stay at home fullforward taking the fullback.
So please give us the answer to this interesting question we would just love to know who of the top liners he has beaten?
tony_montana
22 Jul 2007, 23:21
Hawthorn supporters have seen enough of Roughead to know that he is going to be a very good player for the HFC, he has shown more than enough for a 20 year old.
Roughead = Ben Holland mk II :thumbsu:
He'll be a plodder
SA HAWK
22 Jul 2007, 23:23
i was just waiting for someone to make a post like that, roughead only played well against sh*t defences (carlton, and tigers), big bloody woop
And how dare robert walls say that roughead be better than deledio, hes as stupid as he is uglyI don't think he meant that he is better than deledio just that the tigers should have got at least one of roughy and buddy in that draft instead of drafting 2 midfielders. That is all.
Remember he is only 20 and has been improving slowly. Will never be a star but should turn out a handy player.
Bojangles17
22 Jul 2007, 23:33
I don't think he meant that he is better than deledio just that the tigers should have got at least one of roughy and buddy in that draft instead of drafting 2 midfielders. That is all.
Remember he is only 20 and has been improving slowly. Will never be a star but should turn out a handy player.
dont think there's any denying that....the way the cards fell didnt allow for us to take a KPP...there where sound reasons for leaving Franklin, the same reasons the Hawks were determined to snare Roughy at all costs....In no way shape or form has he suggested to me he's a better prospect that delidio
SA HAWK
22 Jul 2007, 23:57
dont think there's any denying that....the way the cards fell didnt allow for us to take a KPP...there where sound reasons for leaving Franklin, the same reasons the Hawks were determined to snare Roughy at all costs....In no way shape or form has he suggested to me he's a better prospect that delidioFranklin on the other hand. Easily the best of the 04 draft.
tony_montana
23 Jul 2007, 00:03
Franklin on the other hand. Easily the best of the 04 draft.
hindsights a wonderful thing hey?.. Deledio was always going to go number 1 and that pick i wont regret. Have little doubt he will challenge buddy down the track as best player of that draft, Lids has got it all just needs to work at bringing it all together, once he gets the gut running down pat he'll be elite.
Just be thankful you got lucky with buddy bc no-one expected this, including you guys and the bulldogs passing on him as well
dipper86
23 Jul 2007, 00:05
Again I ask which top line FB's has Roughead beaten because that was your claim (see below). Polak and JB are quality defenders (at times) but they are not top line FB's. Remember is was your claim not ours.
Really that was my claim??? I sugest you read again because nowhere have i said he has beaten the best fullbacks!!!!! I said he takes on the full backs which compared to Tambling who takes a lowly player and gathers cheap possies.
So please give us the answer to this interesting question we would just love to know who of the top liners he has beaten?
None, but which 20 year old has beaten them playing as the standalone full forward, he has beaten other backmen and influenced matches of his own boot, thats more than enough for his 3rd year off football playing against seasoned AFL full backs. :)
SA HAWK
23 Jul 2007, 00:11
hindsights a wonderful thing hey?.. Deledio was always going to go number 1 and that pick i wont regret. Have little doubt he will challenge buddy down the track as best player of that draft, Lids has got it all just needs to work at bringing it all together, once he gets the gut running down pat he'll be elite.
Just be thankful you got lucky with buddy bc no-one expected this, including you guys and the bulldogs passing on him as wellHe will never be as good or valuable as buddy and i think all tigers fans deep down know that. Just like hawk fans know deep down hodge will never be as good as judd. Not too say i am not happy with hodge but he will never be as good. Same with deledio.
dipper86
23 Jul 2007, 00:12
Roughead = Ben Holland mk II :thumbsu:
He'll be a plodder
Don't be like that. Thats the Richmond way of developing players. :thumbsd:
tony_montana
23 Jul 2007, 00:19
He will never be as good or valuable as buddy and i think all tigers fans deep down know that. Just like hawk fans know deep down hodge will never be as good as judd. Not too say i am not happy with hodge but he will never be as good. Same with deledio.
Buddy's a freak. Some people try to play him down but you cant deny class. When a player is quiet for the majority of 3 quarters 2 weeks in a row but can still kick 4.4 and 5.5 you know hes special. Deep down inside all tigers fans know Lids can be Kouta like if it all comes together, trust me theres no d.ick envy when it comes to Lids just some impatience that hes not tearing it already.....right now however there is no debate, Franklin is clearly the best of the 04 draft bc hes the only matchwinner.
hope the goose who started this thread is fairly embarassed after roughys game against the saints
tony_montana
23 Jul 2007, 00:28
Don't be like that. Thats the Richmond way of developing players. :thumbsd:
Richmond have had their fair share ad bloody nauseum of big gorilla forwards that are slow - Stafford, B.Holland, Ottens, resting ruckmen, it doesnt work. they will bob up every now and then with a decent game but they arent worth it. Once every now and then for matchups is ok, but any half decent defender worth their salt should be able to take out a B.holland/Roughead type without too much trouble. Very very happy we didnt take roughead :thumbsu:
philhawk
23 Jul 2007, 00:28
What constitutes superstar nowadays? A key forward with less than 50 goals in a year and no games with more than 9 marks?
According to my definition of the word "superstar", there are at present none from the 2004 national draft. In fact, there would only be about 20 "superstars" in the league, otherwise the impact of such a description becomes so diluted we begin to attach a different meaning to the term.
Admittedly, Franklin and Deledio look most likely to achieve this label, based on what I've seen in their first 50-ish games. But they're both one hell of a long way off being real superstars like Pavlich, Brown (J and N) and Harvey.
Hell, Leigh Colbert just called Daniel Wells a superstar in an interview!!
Well, i'd rank a 20 year old who leads the competition in average goals per game as a superstar.
Roughead has time on his side. Nobody expected him to dominate from the beginning, but he'e stepped up a notch this year much like Franklin did last year (where there were the same cries of "He only does it against crap teams").
Realistic Tiger
23 Jul 2007, 01:13
Tecnically you have no idea, One is a KPP taking the best full back, the other is a a squib named Tambling gathering uncontessted posession, atm he isn't even doing that.
Really that was my claim??? I sugest you read again because nowhere have i said he has beaten the best fullbacks!!!!! I said he takes on the full backs which compared to Tambling who takes a lowly player and gathers cheap possies.
None, but which 20 year old has beaten them playing as the standalone full forward, he has beaten other backmen and influenced matches of his own boot, thats more than enough for his 3rd year off football playing against seasoned AFL full backs. :)
Excuse me but is that you stating he takes the best FB's. I believe it is, now you'll excuse me if I take that as you claiming he takes on and beats the best FB's because to me that is how it comes across when you were trying to make a point about how well he is going, compared to Tambling, by claiming he plays on better opponents. If he is in fact playing on the best FB's and beating them then your claim has some merit if he is playing on them as some sort of decoy so Buddy gets a lesser opponent then that is good coaching by Clarkson.
Fact is he has played good football against poor sides. When confronted with the bigger experienced FB's he has struggled. Does not mean he is not a good player just means that he is not as good as some make him out to be. So in the wash up your claim that Roughead is having a better year than Tambling because of the calibre of opponent he is playing against is nothing but BS.
GhostofJimJess
23 Jul 2007, 07:41
Well, i'd rank a 20 year old who leads the competition in average goals per game as a superstar.
What's it matter how old he is? To me you base "superstar" status on what someone has achieved, not what you anticipate he might achieve in the future.
A bit of perspective please. His career goal average (2.06) is currently just over half of that of Allen Jakovich and Warren Ralph, neither of whom go close to being considered "superstars" except perhaps by their own families. Franklin averages 4.2 marks per game - Ben Holland has a 4.3 average (5.1 in his first 50 games) in his career.
For hawk supporters to say that he has been the best player of the 2004 draft is very arguable. Brett Deledio and Ryan Griffen were clearly dominant in their first 25 games (hence their 1-2 podiums in the Rising Star), while Franklin has probably been the best of the most recent 25 games, although fans of Travis Cloke (and maybe even Jesse Smith) might argue with that.
I wish Franklin played for Richmond, though, no doubt about it. He looks for all the world like one day he might be a superstar.
philhawk
23 Jul 2007, 11:32
What's it matter how old he is? To me you base "superstar" status on what someone has achieved, not what you anticipate he might achieve in the future.
A bit of perspective please.
But that's my point?
The fact that I brought up his age is an indication of how suprisingly early his rise to prominence has been for the type of player he is. In regards to what he's achieved thus far, i'm talking about games this year.
Franklin averages 3.3 goals per game (highest in the competition) and leads the competition in scoring shots this year.
TIGER ROCKET
23 Jul 2007, 13:11
What's it matter how old he is? To me you base "superstar" status on what someone has achieved, not what you anticipate he might achieve in the future.
A bit of perspective please. His career goal average (2.06) is currently just over half of that of Allen Jakovich and Warren Ralph, neither of whom go close to being considered "superstars" except perhaps by their own families. Franklin averages 4.2 marks per game - Ben Holland has a 4.3 average (5.1 in his first 50 games) in his career.
For hawk supporters to say that he has been the best player of the 2004 draft is very arguable. Brett Deledio and Ryan Griffen were clearly dominant in their first 25 games (hence their 1-2 podiums in the Rising Star), while Franklin has probably been the best of the most recent 25 games, although fans of Travis Cloke (and maybe even Jesse Smith) might argue with that.
I wish Franklin played for Richmond, though, no doubt about it. He looks for all the world like one day he might be a superstar.
allan jakovich thought allan jakovich was a superstarhttp://www.bigfooty.com/forum/images/icons/icon7.gif
dipper86
23 Jul 2007, 15:14
Excuse me but is that you stating he takes the best FB's. I believe it is, now you'll excuse me if I take that as you claiming he takes on and beats the best FB's because to me that is how it comes across when you were trying to make a point about how well he is going, compared to Tambling, by claiming he plays on better opponents. If he is in fact playing on the best FB's and beating them then your claim has some merit if he is playing on them as some sort of decoy so Buddy gets a lesser opponent then that is good coaching by Clarkson.
Yep he is taking on the best full backs, but nowhere have i mentioned that he was beating them, When you assume things you make an ass out of your self, This so called line was quoted because of another tiger supporter who said that Tambling has the better stats, so autimatically Tambling has the better year, when you compare this to Roughead who is taking on the best fullbacks and playing in a harder position, its a no contest.
Tambling on the otherhand is taking on inferior players, Tambling has also the option to inflate his stats by running up the wings gathering free uncontessted ball, Roughead on the other hand is stationed to the foward 50.
Fact is he has played good football against poor sides. When confronted with the bigger experienced FB's he has struggled. Does not mean he is not a good player just means that he is not as good as some make him out to be. So in the wash up your claim that Roughead is having a better year than Tambling because of the calibre of opponent he is playing against is nothing but BS.
Fact is he has influenced games of his own boot, playing in a difficult position whilst also having to play on hardened seasoned AFL fullbacks. From dominating NO games in his second year to influencing some games of his own boot in his 3rd year, The progression is coming along nicely.
Even if Roughead has played good football on lesser sides its still another thing Tambling has yet to do.
PROUD LION
23 Jul 2007, 15:26
That is the most pathetic quote I have ever heard, Tambling plays for Coburg, he has played one match for Coburg this year, Roughead has been there this year too, of course you would take 3 kicks in the 1s to 25 in the 2s because the 2s don't count to AFL, but when Tambling and Roughead are playing in the 1s they are just about even in disposal, not to mention Roughead is only averaging .6 of a goal more than Tambling this year while Tambling averages over 4 more disposals and 1.5 more Tackles in the same amount of games this year, so technically Tambling is having a better year
:rolleyes: You know what you can do with stats right :thumbsd:
Roughhead is a key forward with 3-5 years minimum until he peaks, so stats are useless at this stage of his career....the FACT that he has already kicked 2 bags of 5 goals in his career shows he has the potential to be as important to the Hawks as Buddy Franklin.
Tambling on the other hand has shown that he has what every other Aboriginal has; PACE......apart from that, the only other thing he brings to the Tigers is a very very tidy missus ;)
So overall, there will almost certainly be comparisons b/w Fiora and Tambling down the track :eek: