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SeinDude
8 May 2002, 18:39
from CricInfo website:


New Zealand Cricket chief executive Martin Snedden said an immediate decision was made to cancel the remainder of the New Zealand team's tour after a bomb blast outside the team hotel today.

The team will fly out of Pakistan this evening and be back in Auckland on Friday morning.

Speaking at a press conference at NZC headquarters in Christchurch at 4pm NZ time, two hours after the bomb blast, Snedden said he had been in touch with his team management in Karachi and their security advisor who is travelling with the team, as well as the head of Pakistan's Cricket Board Brigadier Rana.

Snedden said his main reason for making the decision was the safety of players and team management.

"It was not a difficult decision to make quickly.

"Team manager Jeff Crowe said the situation outside the team's hotel was a little bit bleak. The bomb went off across the road from the hotel.

"The players have been quite shocked at what happened," he said.

"The explosion occurred close to the time the team were due to depart for the National Stadium but, in line with the security plan, the team bus was situated in a secure carpark. Most of the team had yet to leave their rooms although the team physiotherapist, Dayle Shackel, received a minor cut to his forearm from flying glass."

Snedden said Brigadier Rana entirely understood his reasoning behind the abandonment of the tour.

"He was very supportive of the decision and didn't attempt to persuade me otherwise," Snedden said.

He added that the security provisions that had been put in place for the tour by both the Pakistani Government and the Cricket Board were very much appreciated by NZC and Snedden said the decision to send their own security agent on the tour had also been worthwhile.

He had also informed the International Cricket Council of his decision to abandon the tour but due to time differences had not received any response.

Snedden said in reaction to a question about financial implications resulting from the abandonment that his first inclination was that there wouldn't be any comeback on New Zealand, and his second view was that he didn't care if there were.

"The safety of our team was far more important," he said.

Snedden was sympathetic to his players' desire to return home as he was in the New Zealand team which returned home after a bomb blast after the first Test against Sri Lanka in Colombo in 1987.

"It wasn't near where we were staying but we heard the bomb go off, and I can only imagine it would have been a huge shock to players today.

"The players would have been in no mental or physical state to carry on the tour, or to play a Test. The Pakistan team was probably in the same position," he said.

The second Test of the two-match series was due to start at 4pm NZ time today.

The second occasion New Zealand teams have had a tour interrupted by a bomb blast was in 1993, again in Sri Lanka when a suicide bomber assassinated a high-ranking officer in the Sri Lankan navy outside the team's hotel.

Several members of the New Zealand touring party returned home after that event: coach Warren Lees, and players, Mark Greatbatch, Gavin Larsen, Dipak Patel, Rod Latham and Willie Watson.

Replacement players were flown out from New Zealand to continue a shortened tour.

red+black
8 May 2002, 18:54
and appears we will cancel our tour as well. what i don't understand is what happens to the points for the series. pakistan and NZ drew last time in pakistan, and the current series will finish at 1-0. will the previous result stand and each team keeps their 1 point each. or because this series was cancelled, do they both get 0 points? shame for the pakis either way cos they were on their way to a series victory.

clucas91
8 May 2002, 19:00
I think that we should go to Pakistan. I have lived in Asian countries for at least 50% of my whole life and have lived through, bombings, kidnappings, riots, political turmoil and 2 earthquakes. The Australian players will be safe. I can guarantee it from personal experience.

red+black
8 May 2002, 19:38
Originally posted by clucas91
I think that we should go to Pakistan. I have lived in Asian countries for at least 50% of my whole life and have lived through, bombings, kidnappings, riots, political turmoil and 2 earthquakes. The Australian players will be safe. I can guarantee it from personal experience.

Not so far removed from Broadmeadows, Cabramatta or the Valley really :D

Slax
8 May 2002, 19:50
[I]Originally posted by red+black[I]

pakistan and NZ drew last time in pakistan, and the current series will finish at 1-0. will the previous result stand and each team keeps their 1 point each. or because this series was cancelled, do they both get 0 points?

The way the points structure works for the rankings is points are awarded for tests played and the rankings work on the average number of points that a team earns.

Because only 1 test was played only points for that test are awarded. The proposed other 2 tests will not appear against either sides name in the ranking listing.

you_idiot
8 May 2002, 19:58
My two cents worth... Provided that this was the act of terrorists, if the ACB decides to back out of their commitment to travel to Pakistan for their test series, then that means the terrorists win.

Simple as that-- but then again, the series in question is about four months away, so who knows what can happen between now and then.

Cheers,
William

SeinDude
9 May 2002, 16:07
Originally posted by you_idiot
My two cents worth... Provided that this was the act of terrorists, if the ACB decides to back out of their commitment to travel to Pakistan for their test series, then that means the terrorists win.

Simple as that-- but then again, the series in question is about four months away, so who knows what can happen between now and then.

you_idiot

I can understand that point of view, but what if something happened to say Shane Warne or Ricky Ponting for example?? The safety of our sports people is the most important thing and no game is worth putting anyone's life at risk.

Having said that, I'm sure the ACB will monitor the situation over in Pakistan and assess things a little closer to the proposed tour starting.

Cheers!! :cool:
SeinDude

Player
9 May 2002, 16:13
Originally posted by you_idiot
My two cents worth... Provided that this was the act of terrorists, if the ACB decides to back out of their commitment to travel to Pakistan for their test series, then that means the terrorists win.

Simple as that-- but then again, the series in question is about four months away, so who knows what can happen between now and then.

Cheers,
William

This really is a no brainer.

That Cricinfo article glossed over the consequences to New Zealand cricket after the '92 explosion. Team morale collapsed, with those that returned home feeling betrayed by those that stayed and visa-versa.

It took years for any sort of positive culture within the New Zealand cricket to recover.

Obviously Martin Snedden has determined that never again will New Zealand cricket be in a similar position.

The only reason New Zealand was in Pakistan in the first place is because we cancelled our September tour. The team was actually in Singapore waiting to catch a connecting flight to Pakistan when the World Trade Centre attack occured.

The country isn't safe, with advisory warnings against travelling to most of the country, with an expection of these 'safe' cities.

New Zealand cricket undertook all sorts of precautions, with the team bus loading/unloading in secure areas and not in areas with public access, etc.

With the team about to move to the ground, these precautions could well have been a life saver.

The fact that they had organised a contingency plan to evac the country tells you how safe the country is.

If Australia wouldn't play in Sri Lanka in '95, I seriously doubt they would now turn around and tour Pakistan.

Slax
9 May 2002, 21:02
It is unfortunate that the tour is not going to happen but it's not safe. The ACB have no option here at all and unlike the Zimbabwean tour cancellation it's not political. Makes it harder to drop Mark Waugh though but he still has to go.

red+black
9 May 2002, 23:30
Originally posted by Slax
The way the points structure works for the rankings is points are awarded for tests played and the rankings work on the average number of points that a team earns.

I know quite well how the system works.


Originally posted by Slax
Because only 1 test was played only points for that test are awarded. The proposed other 2 tests will not appear against either sides name in the ranking listing.

Couldn't be more incorrect.

ICC Test Championship Rules:
- Only series consisting of two Tests or more are counted.
- The most recent series between the two sides, home and away, are counted.
- If, for any reason, a scheduled series is not played or completed, no points will be awarded.

So I reckon this series will not count as a 1-0 victory for Pakistan, but will be represented as a dash ( - ) as only one test was played. It was a 2 test series, not 3 as you imply. The previous meeting was a 1-1 series draw (2-test series) in 96/7.

I guess I answered my own question.

SeinDude
10 May 2002, 11:03
Originally posted by red+black
ICC Test Championship Rules:
- Only series consisting of two Tests or more are counted.
- The most recent series between the two sides, home and away, are counted.
- If, for any reason, a scheduled series is not played or completed, no points will be awarded.

So I reckon this series will not count as a 1-0 victory for Pakistan, but will be represented as a dash ( - ) as only one test was played.


red+black

Thanks for that info. I wasn't sure if points were awarded based on each test or each series but that clears it up. :)

Pakistan would be unhappy in this case as they were in a strong position in this series, leading 1-0 aftet a convincing victory in the 1st test.

Cheers!! :cool:
SeinDude