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PAFCsince1870
11 Aug 2007, 19:25
Was just about best on ground today, without him and Westhoff we would have lost.

28 touches and 2 goals, wow.

Rising star nomination absolutely in the bag. :thumbsu:

Sandola
11 Aug 2007, 19:27
Was just about best on ground today, without him and Westhoff we would have lost.

28 touches and 2 goals, wow.

Rising star nomination absolutely in the bag. :thumbsu:

Yeah, basically magnificent. Really strong, good decision making, good disposal, and he kicks goals. The Utterly Uncontroversial Travis Boak.

Rory
11 Aug 2007, 19:29
I love his work in the packs and when he's under pressure.

Predator.
11 Aug 2007, 19:32
Travis Boak - WOW!! :eek:


By the way, mods please add to thread title: Controversially selected ahead of James Sellar. :D :thumbsu:

Jumbo
11 Aug 2007, 19:33
Looked more like a number 1 pick than the number 1 pick!!:D

Predator.
11 Aug 2007, 19:33
Bloody hell, we have unearthed some SERIOUS talent this year: Boak, Westhoff, Gray, Rodan, Thomilf.

Capital Power
11 Aug 2007, 19:33
BOG for mine .. well done young man!

Didn't he and Westhoff show cool heads under pressure in Q4. Great finds, both of them....

Sandola
11 Aug 2007, 19:34
Travis Boak - WOW!! :eek:


By the way, mods please add to thread title: Controversially selected ahead of James Sellar. :D :thumbsu:

See (my) post #2.

Arsene Wenger
11 Aug 2007, 19:44
yes awesome today as was Thomson i thought

Sandola
11 Aug 2007, 19:46
yes awesome today as was Thomson i thought

One of his best games. But he seemed (on tv) to go missing for large chunks of the game. Did he spend considerably more time on the bench than Boak did?

*PAF
11 Aug 2007, 19:50
One of his best games. But he seemed (on tv) to go missing for large chunks of the game. Did he spend considerably more time on the bench than Boak did?
My thoughts as well.
Is he unable to continually present as an option or was he rotated more often than other players? He went missing quite a bit.

eathb
11 Aug 2007, 19:54
Yes Thomson spent a lot of time on the bench.

I think he was the 4th lowest player in minutes by the end of the 3rd quarter.

eathb
11 Aug 2007, 20:00
Also Boak looks better than Gibbs today ;)

Spadge
11 Aug 2007, 20:18
i was extremely impressed with Boak today
he runs hard and through the lines
has very very good foot skills and has real footy smarts
totally agree that Boak looked more like a number 1 draft pick than Gibbs did
a real find and must play every game from now on

finbarr
11 Aug 2007, 20:22
One of his best games. But he seemed (on tv) to go missing for large chunks of the game. Did he spend considerably more time on the bench than Boak did?

Thomson did spend large chunks of time on the bench.

It wasn't just his abilities at the stoppages today that shone out either. The hard ball he won on the HFF (mopping up for another Lonie clanger i think) in the lead up to Shaun Burgoyne's first goal (i think) was absolute class.

Sandola
11 Aug 2007, 20:25
Thomson did spend large chunks of time on the bench.

It wasn't just his abilities at the stoppages today that shone out either. The hard ball he won on the HFF (mopping up for another Lonie clanger i think) in the lead up to Shaun Burgoyne's first goal (i think) was absolute class.

Yes. I saw that. Class indeed.

Toots Hibbert
11 Aug 2007, 20:26
Gibbs was OK Travis Boak was a star today. He's tough, he's tenacious, his work in close is terrific and he can finish. Has a bit of pace too.

He's a beauty. :thumbsu::thumbsu:

SuperDanyle
11 Aug 2007, 20:27
boakalicious! what a star.

PJ Power
11 Aug 2007, 20:32
Thomson did spend large chunks of time on the bench.

It wasn't just his abilities at the stoppages today that shone out either. The hard ball he won on the HFF (mopping up for another Lonie clanger i think) in the lead up to Shaun Burgoyne's first goal (i think) was absolute class.

Careful Finny, you're opening yourself up for you-know-who to respond in his customary way.;)

Porthos
11 Aug 2007, 22:58
He must have a bunch of mates that barrack for Carlton, thats all I can say. Seemed to be trying much, much harder than previous weeks. Top effort.

Jakko
11 Aug 2007, 23:29
He must have a bunch of mates that barrack for Carlton, thats all I can say. Seemed to be trying much, much harder than previous weeks. Top effort.

I remember something about his late father being a mad Carlton supporter.

He really backed his pace and ability a lot more. Loved what I saw.

finbarr
11 Aug 2007, 23:32
He must have a bunch of mates that barrack for Carlton, thats all I can say. Seemed to be trying much, much harder than previous weeks. Top effort.

He played like a guy who knows Salopek will be back next week, as did Thomson.

Ford Fairlane
11 Aug 2007, 23:38
Boak's a star. Almost had the feeling today that Choco was auditioning he and Lonie for a part in Salopek's Wing. Fairly clear who won the lead and who is the understudy.

Heard that Boak's former Geelong Falcons (and current Power) team-mate Ryan Williams had a very good 'second debut' for Centrals today. Big-bodied midfielder with a hard work ethic and an eye for goals ... would be good if he came through too.

Port_GW
11 Aug 2007, 23:51
I wonder if the club has offered Travis a long term contract yet? They probably dont want to pressure him, but it would be great if they could extend it by a few years, its imperative we keep him at the club.

He certainly is a quality kid, both on and off field, he could be our first "interstate drafted" captain in a few years time (Primus born in Victoria but had a connection with SA after playing for Norwood).

spice18
12 Aug 2007, 00:07
He's really coming on now. As I said in another thread, the Power recruiters were going to pick him ahead of Gibbs in last year's draft once all elite KPP were gone. They rated Boaky the best midfielder in that draft. I'm starting to see why.

RussellEbertHandball
12 Aug 2007, 05:04
When the majority of our players were bludging, being incompetent, looked liked they were at a half time function, disinterested etc, in the third quarter, Travis, or Borak as I like to call hiim, was one of only about 3 players who put in a full effort during that disasterous 3rd quarter. Well done to the young man on a top 4 quarter effort. I look forward to him showing his mates from the Geelong Falcons that he is confident enough to feel a part of the AFL, put in a big one at Kadina Park in a couple of weeks and be an automatic selection in our first finals team!

S.Patrol.G
12 Aug 2007, 10:37
i was extremely impressed with Boak today
he runs hard and through the lines
has very very good foot skills and has real footy smarts
totally agree that Boak looked more like a number 1 draft pick than Gibbs did
a real find and must play every game from now on

..agree completely. He is a natural at gaining possession and delivering THEN running hard to support or get F and C of next contest. Very, very impressive.:)

On a straight comparison from yesterday, certainly looked more number 1 than the actual number 1. By no means is that a dig at Gibbs cos the kid can certainly play and is carrying a massive amount of expectation at the blues- more than should be expected IMHO.

Toots Hibbert
12 Aug 2007, 10:41
It's his handballs that have impressed me the most. He fires them out with disproportionate velocity.:thumbsu:

Ford Fairlane
12 Aug 2007, 10:45
And he'll get possession anywhere. He will crash into a pack or congestion fearlessly, get the footy, get it out and then go again in support. And if he can't get it out, he's good at keeping it locked in there to force the ball up.

His tackling technique is good, his tackling is strong and he has a bit of fierceness (some might say mongrel) about his attack on the body.

First class vision and disposal is starting to match that in the pressure of AFL football.

He's a beauty.

Macca19
12 Aug 2007, 10:46
THe thing that has impressed me most is his almost immediate versatility coming into our midfield. He can play as a pacey outsider with good skills and he can just as easily win his own ball and dish out a handball in a pack. Thats what has impressed me most. His willingness to get dirty and win his own ball. Some of his work in traffic has been Francou-esque in the past 3 weeks. Has a lovely side step.

THomson was also very good. I said in my review that it was arguably his best game. Some of his handballs under pressure were first class.

Ford Fairlane
12 Aug 2007, 11:00
Thommo was good, and some of his link work with Boak was great to watch and damaging. But Thomson's test is against sides like Adelaide and Sydney that force congestion around the ball and stoppages. He has to get handballs out that release team-mates and not just handball to the guy next to him who is under just as much pressure. Sure it gets you an effective disposal stat but in real terms achieves nothing. I think he's capable of lifting to that next level with more experience, so keep him in the side from now on.

Toots Hibbert
12 Aug 2007, 11:34
Needs to clean up his foot passes a bit also.

Black 18
12 Aug 2007, 11:38
THe thing that has impressed me most is his almost immediate versatility coming into our midfield. He can play as a pacey outsider with good skills and he can just as easily win his own ball and dish out a handball in a pack. Thats what has impressed me most. His willingness to get dirty and win his own ball. Some of his work in traffic has been Francou-esque in the past 3 weeks. Has a lovely side step.

THomson was also very good. I said in my review that it was arguably his best game. Some of his handballs under pressure were first class.

Thomson's work off the ball is of the highest order. He continually runs to block and is more than willing to forget about getting a stat in order to provide cover for another player. He is looking better with each passing game IMO. Like many have said his handballs and his nature to get in there and get it out are very good but for me it's his continual willingness to do the no stat stuff that I like the most.

Can anyone tell me why he spends so much time on the bench? Is it simply rotations or has he some fitness issue's?

Black 18
12 Aug 2007, 11:55
Travis Boak was excellent yesterday. As many posters previously have mentioned he has an all round game of the highest level. The quality of the opposition must be taken into account when judging yesterday though, for the first half Carlton were pathetic in every aspect, their checking was woeful, I can't recall ever seeing a side so slack. I think we were on world record pace for total stats ever in a game of AFL at half time, and that about sums it up in regard to what Carlton put out there in the first half.

Back to Boak though, he needs another 2 pre-seasons before we will get to see his best at this level. The mind boggles at his potential. This is well going to be worth the wait! Class and power runnning to the max IMO, and has a touch of agro to throw into the mix, a perfect combination.

We need to get this kid on a longer contract and fast! I hope his best mate manages to develop and join Travis in our AFL side, that will surely help over time.

morell
12 Aug 2007, 12:30
I don't like to compare players ... well actually yeah I do.

He was like a clone of Nick Dal Santo yesterday, in terms of being able to cover all aspects of being a midfielder. Inside gets, outside running, kicking skill, handball nous, evasive ability etc etc

There was a piece of play in the last quarter where he gathered a handball on half back, evaded, turned and fired a handball, ran on, received the secondary handball, fired another handball 15m, then ran again and laid a perfect shepherd to let Rodan (?) go free. May no sound like much but he did all of that whilst he was under extreme pressure.

He has it all.

Macca19
12 Aug 2007, 12:47
One of his best games. But he seemed (on tv) to go missing for large chunks of the game. Did he spend considerably more time on the bench than Boak did?

According to Champion Data, was only on the ground for 58% of the match. That came in 2nd last out of both teams. The only player from both teams to have less time on the ground was Deluca.

In that time he picked up 18 disposals and 5 clearances (=1st out of both sides).

Boak was on the ground for 67%

ablett5
12 Aug 2007, 20:33
give you first and second round picks for him....!!

year of the cat
12 Aug 2007, 22:33
Congratulations. PA have been given a fair bit of stick with regards to taking Boak in front of Selwood. Both will be terrific players if this years form is anything to go by. Both teams are winners.

Ford Fairlane
13 Aug 2007, 00:31
Congratulations. PA have been given a fair bit of stick with regards to taking Boak in front of Selwood. Both will be terrific players if this years form is anything to go by. Both teams are winners.


:thumbsu: to that. Both clubs look to have picked up genuine quality and you can't ask for more than that.

Ford Fairlane
13 Aug 2007, 09:46
Boak's getting some high praise from experienced heads at Port. Westhoff also gets praised up by Choco in this article


Boak ignites team (http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,22232362-21545,00.html)
Article from: The Advertiser
ANDREW CAPEL

August 13, 2007 02:15am

INJURED Port Adelaide skipper Warren Tredrea has lavished praise on rookie midfielder Travis Boak, describing his last quarter as crucial to staving off a shock defeat against Carlton.

Boak, whose performance is almost certain to be rewarded with the round 19 AFL Rising Star nomination, had seven important disposals on the wing in the final term to help ignite the Power's 6.3 to 2.1 rally after the struggling Blues had threatened to derail Port's finals chances.

"I thought Boak took a huge step forward," said Tredrea, who missed his third straight game with knee bruising.

"He lifted at a crucial time when we had probably been beaten on the wings a couple of times. He came on in the last quarter and smashed straight through a couple of packs to lead the way and show great poise and composure. He was phenomenal."

<snip>

"There's no doubt he knows how to find the footy," veteran team-mate Michael Wilson said of Boak.

"He showed great maturity to be able to come off the bench and rack up the possessions and have such an influence in that last term.

"He lifted the bar and benchmark on what his game level is like and we look forward to even more improvement from him."

Coach Mark Williams described the performances of Boak and fellow 2006 draftee Justin Westhoff in pressure situations as "outstanding".

<snip>

Malibu#27
13 Aug 2007, 09:51
Boak's getting some high praise from experienced heads at Port. Westhoff also gets praised up by Choco in this article

Whats that - an Andrew Capel article containing Boaks name, not preceeded by "controversally selected ahead of <insert Glenelg reserves player here>"

Ford Fairlane
13 Aug 2007, 10:07
Whats that - an Andrew Capel article containing Boaks name, not preceeded by "controversally selected ahead of <insert Glenelg reserves player here>"


He's probably following the t-shirt adage "Let's pretend it didn't happen and hope no one noticed".

Toots Hibbert
13 Aug 2007, 10:30
Whats that - an Andrew Capel article containing Boaks name, not preceeded by "controversally selected ahead of <insert Glenelg reserves player here>"
Hehe, Capel still needs a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. He said that Carlton were kicking into the wind in the third quarter. The wind was blowing across the ground for most of the match and favouring the southern end a bit which was the end Carlton were kicking to in the third. During the three quarter time break the change came in and it started blowing from the southwest and meant that Carlton also had a slight benefit from it in the last quarter.

(I like weather, especially clouds. I've often wondered why one cloud can be moving in a certain direction while another cloud higher up is basically stationary or even moving in a different direction. :confused:)

TheFridge
13 Aug 2007, 11:14
Capel may have missed the chance to use the "controversially selected" tag, but Jake Niall did not pass up the chance in an article today regarding Selwood, J (albeit not directly referring to Boak...)....

http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/joel-selwood-follows-judd/2007/08/12/1186857346978.html


No one is suggesting that Selwood will rival or eclipse Judd in the next few years, but his first 16 games have been so impressive that most, if not all, of the half-dozen clubs that passed on him also might need to defend themselves.

Captain Wacky
13 Aug 2007, 14:47
He's probably following the t-shirt adage "Let's pretend it didn't happen and hope no one noticed".

Would that be Andrew "Occasionally published alongside Michaelangelo Rucci" Capel?

Malibu#27
13 Aug 2007, 18:13
Capel may have missed the chance to use the "controversially selected" tag, but Jake Niall did not pass up the chance in an article today regarding Selwood, J (albeit not directly referring to Boak...)....

http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/joel-selwood-follows-judd/2007/08/12/1186857346978.html

No doubt that Selwood is a top liner ... but using yesterdays game as justification had me thinking ... as I watched both him and Boak on the weekend I was more than comfortable with our decision - based solely on last weekends game as I considered Boak was more important.

I'd also mention that Boaks first 8 games have included more 20+ possession games, as well as greater over all average. So even though Selwood has done more to date - hes also had more games to find his feet.

Carnport
13 Aug 2007, 19:05
(I like weather, especially clouds. I've often wondered why one cloud can be moving in a certain direction while another cloud higher up is basically stationary or even moving in a different direction. :confused:)

Well I'm glad you asked: at the absolute simplest level this is largely due to regional scale temperature and therefore pressure gradients. Lower temperature equals lower pressure. Wind and therefore weather flows in the direction of least resistance (from high pressure to low). There are local, geological, global, seasonal and solar effects at play here as well. Where temperature inversions (i.e. boundaries) occur, physically close weather systems can be almost entirely unrelated (go in different ways). If you want to know more just Google Troposphere or Tropopause.

If you want to know more about Travis Boak then Google Stratosphere!!!

christoh
13 Aug 2007, 19:12
Think he got nab rising star nomination this week

eathb
13 Aug 2007, 19:34
5AA said that Boak has this rounds rising star nomination :thumbsu:

BWST
13 Aug 2007, 19:48
5AA said that Boak has this rounds rising star nomination :thumbsu:

Just confirmed on Channel 7 Sport.

You beauty, another one. :cool:

Power King
13 Aug 2007, 19:59
7 rising star nominations in less than two seasons.

1 more nomination in the last 2 days than the crows in quite a few years

(had to sneak in a cheap shot)

*PAF
13 Aug 2007, 20:06
7 rising star nominations in less than two seasons.

1 more nomination in the last 2 days than the crows in quite a few years

(had to sneak in a cheap shot)
Add Shaun, Kane, Motlop and Rodan to that and it makes half a team of Rising Star nominees that are 25 and under. :thumbsu: