View Full Version : Bryce Gibbs v Joel Selwood v Matt Leunberger v Travis Boak v Andrejs Everitt
Big Cox
23 Aug 2007, 14:03
The 5 standouts so far from last years draft. Who would you prefer at most and what would be the order you would select them at. For mine itd be
1. Travis Boak
2. Joel Selwood
3. Matt Leunberger
4. Andrejs Everitt
5. Bryce Gibbs.
Gibbs by about 8-9 lights years. An unbelievable talent, and the most talented #1 pick we have seen for the past 25 years in fact. I think Leunberger is the second best. Very impressive so far. As for the rest - flip a coin. :)
Big Cox
23 Aug 2007, 14:09
Gibbs by about 8-9 lights years. An unbelievable talent, and the most talented #1 pick we have seen for the past 25 years in fact. I think Leunberger is the second best. Very impressive so far. As for the rest - flip a coin. :)
Rubbish, the guy does more head ducking then Donald, he doesnt get a ton of ball and his disposal isnt very clean at all. He will be a OKAY player. He will never be a All Australian however and will probably play his whole career of a wing in a similar vein to a Nathan Eagleton type.
1. Boak
2. Selwood
3. Gibbs
4. Everitt
5. Leunberger
I actually think Leunberger is the best out of the lot though.
Rubbish, the guy does more head ducking then Donald, he doesnt get a ton of ball and his disposal isnt very clean at all. He will be a OKAY player. He will never be a All Australian however and will probably play his whole career of a wing in a similar vein to a Nathan Eagleton type.
Keep dreaming. I think this thread was created because of your insecurity regarding the lack of top-shelf talent coming though on the Weagles list. Without Judd, and to a lesser extent Cousins, they looked like a bland team last week, stacked with endurance type midfield-taggers feeding a few hack-forwards. Not much to get excited about. :)
Big Cox
23 Aug 2007, 14:15
Keep dreaming. I think this thread was created because of your insecurity regarding the lack of top-shelf talent coming though on the Weagles list. Without Judd, and to a lesser extent Cousins, they looked like a bland team last week, stacked with endurance type midfield-taggers feeding a few hack-forwards. Not much to get excited about. :)
NOTHING to do with the Eagles. Even you know that. It has to do with the fact Boak and Selwood are 2 sublime talents and for all the talk Gibbs has proven diddly squat to the footballing public. Just like Ratten.
NOTHING to do with the Eagles. Even you know that. It has to do with the fact Boak and Selwood are 2 sublime talents and for all the talk Gibbs has proven diddly squat to the footballing public. Just like Ratten.
Now the bitter little talent envy motives are bubbling to the surface. Hilarious. Your soul-less Judd-dependent regional franchise outfit is on the verge of a solid slide. Enjoy the ride. :)
Big Cox
23 Aug 2007, 14:19
Back on topic I think Travis Boak is a gem. Hes the perfect footballer. I cant see a weakness in his game. He is the most likely to win a Brownlow out of them all.
jonesy86
23 Aug 2007, 14:30
1. Leuenberger
2. Selwood
3. Boak
4. Gibbs
5. Everitt
Magic17
23 Aug 2007, 15:37
Looneyburger.
Gibbs is the most disappoint no1 draft pick in years.
AxelFoley#5
23 Aug 2007, 15:56
I cant work out what the fuss about Gibbs was all about. Ok, he's played every game this year and contributed here and there, but he shows nothing special as compared to the average footballer.
Boak is a sublime talent as is Selwood, they'll be hard to split in years to come
Leuenberger will mould into the Cox type of player and will be in the top 3 ruckmen of the league in the future. Everitt will be a solid defender.
All I'd rate higher than Gibbs going on what we've seen so far (on potential) along with Gumby who (fingers crossed) will become the next Riewoldt.
TheGeneral
23 Aug 2007, 16:02
1. Gibbs/ Leuenberger/Selwood/Boak
5. Everitt.
delirious1
23 Aug 2007, 16:18
1.Leuenberger
2.Selwood
3.Everitt
4.Gibbs
5.Boak
The Zebra
23 Aug 2007, 17:43
The Berger is the best.
That game vs Sydney - unbelieivable performance by a 19 year old ruckman.
then...
2. Selwood
3. Boak
4. Gibbs (not that impressive this year, but will come good)
5. Everitt
That is how I would draft them.
1. Burger
2. Selwood
3. Everitt
4. Gibbs
5. Boak
That would be my order.
brookers#5
23 Aug 2007, 18:02
The Burger will be better then cox
Boak will be one of the best mids around, Selwood very good but no real upside but is a gem, Gibbs i dont know with all the raps he has obvious potential but i just haven't seen it as much as a couple of others, Everitt will be a very good player but not as good as the above mentioned.
There is probably another 5 from that draft not mentioned who will be special players.
Palmer Stoat
23 Aug 2007, 18:59
1 Leuenberger
2 Selwood
3 Boak
4 Gibbs
5 Everitt
walkers a legend
23 Aug 2007, 20:15
since i go for Carlton i would usually say gibbs but andrejs everitt looks to be an absolute gun
walkers a legend
23 Aug 2007, 20:20
i think westhoff would also be one of the best first year players
TheGeneral
23 Aug 2007, 20:35
i think westhoff would also be one of the best first year players
A shame that's irrelevent to the next ten years of their careers.
*COUGH*JOEL SELWOOD*COUGH*
oscarheel
24 Aug 2007, 00:29
I have never in my life seen a better 1st year player than Joel Selwood.
In maybe the best midfield in the comp, he earns his possesions by going in hard and dosen't get cheap possesions like a lot of experienced midfielders.
Can someone please explain though why Gumbleton wasn't nominated, as he may be the best out of the lot in five years time...
brookers#5
24 Aug 2007, 00:34
I have never in my life seen a better 1st year player than Joel Selwood.
In maybe the best midfield in the comp, he earns his possesions by going in hard and dosen't get cheap possesions like a lot of experienced midfielders.
Can someone please explain though why Gumbleton wasn't nominated, as he may be the best out of the lot in five years time...
If you want to add gumby, you could add Hansen, Thorpe, reid etc. These 5 have have been the best this year so thats fair enough.
Smyth94
24 Aug 2007, 00:36
I have never in my life seen a better 1st year player than Joel Selwood.
In maybe the best midfield in the comp, he earns his possesions by going in hard and dosen't get cheap possesions like a lot of experienced midfielders.
Can someone please explain though why Gumbleton wasn't nominated, as he may be the best out of the lot in five years time...
It's because his name hasn't been whored out by the media. His debut didn't even get a mention. But in his last two games he's taken 15 marks, kicked two goals and had 20 something possessions @ CHF...not bad for a bloke with no pre-season and a mid-year injury :thumbsu: Will be the best out of the lot
Smyth94
24 Aug 2007, 00:38
If you want to add gumby, you could add Hansen, Thorpe, reid etc. These 5 have have been the best this year so thats fair enough.
Thats fair enough, but they've also played the most games. I wouldn't make comments on how any one of those 5 are going to be the pick of the draft just yet when you have the aforementioned still to have played a few games
brookers#5
24 Aug 2007, 01:05
Thats fair enough, but they've also played the most games. I wouldn't make comments on how any one of those 5 are going to be the pick of the draft just yet when you have the aforementioned still to have played a few games
I couldn't agree with you more but i think there the easiest to rate so far, personally i'm rapped with Thorpy & think he'll be the best just as you are with Gumby but thats because we've seen abit of them where other teams supporters haven't, I personally think it'll be Berger>>>>>>>>>Gumby, Boak, Thorpe, Selwood, find it hard to seperate those boys but i think the berger will be a freak. Time will tell thoe but i'm pretty sure all those boys will be very good footballers.
Big Nasty
24 Aug 2007, 02:06
I couldn't agree with you more but i think there the easiest to rate so far, personally i'm rapped with Thorpy & think he'll be the best just as you are with Gumby but thats because we've seen abit of them where other teams supporters haven't, I personally think it'll be Berger>>>>>>>>>Gumby, Boak, Thorpe, Selwood, find it hard to seperate those boys but i think the berger will be a freak. Time will tell thoe but i'm pretty sure all those boys will be very good footballers.
LOL, actually The Tomahawk will kill all of 'em in five years time.
LOL, actually The Tomahawk will kill all of 'em in five years time.
Hawkins is going to be a great player, and I'd rank him #3 behind Gibbs and Leunberger. For those BF minority that actually watch football rather than online footy stats, you'll know why Gibbs is so far beyond anyone else in this draft in terms of raw talent. The youngest from that draft and has freakish skills, and is being slowly introduced into the midfield. Leunberger is already a fantastic ruck technician, and has excelent mobility, although not quite the freakish athleticism of the 2nd ranked ruck from that draft Hampson. Leunberger should have gone #2. Hawkins would have gone #3. Already huge, but importantly has natural footy smarts and awareness. The rest are pretty non-descript, and you'll find that there will be players taken 15 to 30 that will overtake them. Selwood has had an awesome year, but is older than the others, and more physically developed. He has a great capacity to find the ball - reminds me of a cross between Jones and Licuiria, but lack the polish, talent and upside of top-shelf talents. Best described as a poor-mans Marc Murphy. :)
Teagueeee15
24 Aug 2007, 13:38
I cant work out what the fuss about Gibbs was all about. Ok, he's played every game this year and contributed here and there, but he shows nothing special as compared to the average footballer. Boak is a sublime talent as is Selwood, they'll be hard to split in years to come
Leuenberger will mould into the Cox type of player and will be in the top 3 ruckmen of the league in the future. Everitt will be a solid defender.
All I'd rate higher than Gibbs going on what we've seen so far (on potential) along with Gumby who (fingers crossed) will become the next Riewoldt.
You have to take his age into account. Out of those in this poll that most respondants rank better than him, Selwood is ten months older, Leunberger is nine months older and Boak is eight months older. That means Gibbs is still eligable to play in the TAC cup this year, while the others are not.
AxelFoley#5
24 Aug 2007, 13:49
It's because his name hasn't been whored out by the media. His debut didn't even get a mention. But in his last two games he's taken 15 marks, kicked two goals and had 20 something possessions @ CHF...not bad for a bloke with no pre-season and a mid-year injury :thumbsu: Will be the best out of the lot
Second that. I'm very excited that we picked him up
AxelFoley#5
24 Aug 2007, 13:58
You have to take his age into account. Out of those in this poll that most respondants rank better than him, Selwood is ten months older, Leunberger is nine months older and Boak is eight months older. That means Gibbs is still eligable to play in the TAC cup this year, while the others are not.
Age is of little relevance IMO. Just because he's the youngest of the bunch doesnt make him the best. Compared to blokes like Gumby, LBerger, Selwood, Boak etc he doesnt show any X factor that will separate him from that bunch to be better than them.
jonesy86
24 Aug 2007, 15:11
Age is of little relevance IMO. Just because he's the youngest of the bunch doesnt make him the best. Compared to blokes like Gumby, LBerger, Selwood, Boak etc he doesnt show any X factor that will separate him from that bunch to be better than them.
exactly...if anything Gibbs should be advantaged by having a year playing seniors in the SANFL
thebigboy
24 Aug 2007, 15:14
1: Leunberger
2: Selwood
3: Boak
4: Gibbs
5: Everitt
FWIW, Gumbelton will be just as good as those players.
Melbdave81
24 Aug 2007, 15:45
On this years performances, id have to go with
1 - the burger
2 - selwood
3 - gibbs
4 - boak
5 - everitt
TheBrownDog
24 Aug 2007, 16:18
What Leuenberger has done in the ruck at such a young age is ridiculous.
I also think Joel Selwood will be better than Gibbs over the course of their careers.
Gibbs is a dud, I wish the crows did waste a draft pick on him.
Gibbs is a dud, I wish the crows did waste a draft pick on him.
Remember this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FxgUerNchE)? :)
AxelFoley#5
24 Aug 2007, 17:07
Remember this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FxgUerNchE)? :)
Bout the only thing of note he's done
Look out Sqwibbsy...Milney's coming!
Bout the only thing of note he's done.
Remember this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wkZ2vO3czY)? :)
AxelFoley#5
24 Aug 2007, 17:30
Remember this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wkZ2vO3czY)? :)
What's so special about that??? The scoreline? Because it was against Essendon? He kicked the ball to a bloke 30 metres in the clear; he's some sort of player!
Worry about last week mate not round 3
TheGeneral
24 Aug 2007, 17:38
Gibbs will be the best player by miles.
Bryce will be the only choice playing for the club that drafted him in seven years time.
Russell, Austin and Sticks will keep him in Melbourne.
Selwood's body will break due to injury and the weight of expectation of a one team town.
Boak will move back home to play for a side that has an attractive supporter base and bigger attendances.
Leuenberger and Gumbleton will return home to WA to play with Judd.
Everitt will be admitted to hospital with bulimia and fed by a tube for the next seven years.
...Worry about last week mate not round 3
You mean your PP "win" ? :)
Monkeyboy
24 Aug 2007, 17:49
Id say Gibbs, Burger and Selwood in that order. All will be stars, with Gibbs looking the most likely to reach Hird type levels.
makethat2
24 Aug 2007, 20:22
I've never seen Hird crap himself at player running at him before never mind Milne.
danzan22
24 Aug 2007, 20:25
Really need to see more of boak, going to watch the port game this week.
foxdoog50
24 Aug 2007, 21:46
LOL, actually The Tomahawk will kill all of 'em in five years time.
Agree with you there mate, what a combo. "Selwood gets out the middle, takes a bounce and kicks it long in to the goal square to "Hawkins" who takes a strong mark"
carnthedons07premiers
24 Aug 2007, 22:07
Alwyn Davey anyone?
SEEING EYE DOG
24 Aug 2007, 23:17
Gibbs would not be getting a regular game at 12 other teams. Blues
had to play him every game to try to justify taking him ahead of Berger.
brookers#5
25 Aug 2007, 00:44
This post is pretty pointless right now, in 3 years time let alone there whole career there will be a different best 5 from this draft, yes those 5 boys look like players but so do other who for several reasons haven't played much senior footy yet, but for arguments sake the best 5 from the draft will be, berger, Boak, Selwood, Gibbs & thorpe imo, obviously parts of that will be wrong but i think if were rating any draft we shoud go back to a draft between 00,04 & get a gauge on who are turning out better in those drafts.
Port_GW
25 Aug 2007, 01:30
Gibbs certainly doesn't appear to be anything special (i seriously doubt he'll be half as good as his dad, Ross), genuinely the biggest disappointment for the year by a considerable margin. Looks like he will be a steady player but Selwood and Boak who were given a third of the media hype (which appears to have sucked Carlton in :D) have shown that they'll be in the top 10 midfielders in about 5 years time.
Leuenberger obviously will be a dominant ruckman for the majority of the next decade, whilst Everitt Jnr certainly has something special about him. I really think he'll be bordering on superstardom within 5 years, he plays with maturity well beyond his years.
Jeremias
25 Aug 2007, 09:32
Gibbs would not be getting a regular game at 12 other teams. Blues
had to play him every game to try to justify taking him ahead of Berger.
He would get a game for the Dogs, because that way Rocket wouldn't need to worry about Gibbs giving Aker an absolute bath.
KnockOut
25 Aug 2007, 09:46
1. Gibbs / Boak
2. Leunenberger
3. Selwood
4. Daylight
5. Night light
6. Everitt
black_hart
25 Aug 2007, 11:30
1/ Leuenberger
Will be the games dominant ruckman in a few years.
2/ Selwood
3/ Boak
4/ Gibbs
5/ Everitt
pafc4life
25 Aug 2007, 11:33
Boak is so easily the best of that lot its not funny. Gibbs lol
TheGeneral
25 Aug 2007, 12:08
He would get a game for the Dogs, because that way Rocket wouldn't need to worry about Gibbs giving Aker an absolute bath.
Choco wouldn't want Bryce either after he gave Brett Ebert a bath in a thrashing.
I love the argument that Leuenberger will be the best player of the lot because he's shown a bit against senior ruckman. He hasn't even played more standout games than Gumbleton who plays what is acknowledged as the hardest position on the ground.
Josh Fraser had a better debut year than Leuenberger but hasn't made an AA side. :cool:
pafc4life
25 Aug 2007, 12:10
Choco wouldn't want Bryce either after he gave Brett Ebert a bath in a thrashing.
I love the argument that Leuenberger will be the best player of the lot because he's shown a bit against senior ruckman. He hasn't even played more standout games than Gumbleton who plays what is acknowledged as the hardest position on the ground.
Leuenberger hasn't shown any more than Josh Fraser in his debut year. ;) :o
be honest, youre bitter coz you know Bryce was really worth a 2nd rounder
be honest, youre bitter coz you know Bryce was really worth a 2nd rounder
I love these bitter-talent envy posts. We are absolutely delighted with Gibbs, as he is not only light-years ahead of anyone else in last years draft, but he's probably the best #1 pick in the last 25 years. You'll just have to suck your envy up and move on, and try to talk-up no-talents like Roden. Hilarious. :)
blitzer
25 Aug 2007, 13:34
I love these bitter-talent envy posts. We are absolutely delighted with Gibbs, as he is not only light-years ahead of anyone else in last years draft, but he's probably the best #1 pick in the last 25 years. You'll just have to suck your envy up and move on, and try to talk-up no-talents like Roden. Hilarious. :)
Almost gotta feel sorry for Parrot, he works so hard to talk up Carlton's draftees. Just a shame he has so very little to work with. I mean you would think with all that 'top shelf talent' they could manage to get actually win more than a couple of games per year. But hey as long as he's happy.
Almost gotta feel sorry for Parrot, he works so hard to talk up Carlton's draftees. Just a shame he has so very little to work with. I mean you would think with all that 'top shelf talent' they could manage to get actually win more than a couple of games per year. ...
Yeah we just keep fading in the last 10 minutes of the last quarter for the last 4 weeks. Strange eh. Will take us at least another 2 weeks to break that habit I suspect. :)
TheGeneral
25 Aug 2007, 13:55
Almost gotta feel sorry for Parrot, he works so hard to talk up Carlton's draftees. Just a shame he has so very little to work with. I mean you would think with all that 'top shelf talent' they could manage to get actually win more than a couple of games per year. But hey as long as he's happy.
That's ironic coming from a supporter whose side takes inspiration from players who are 30 year or older.
The football public witnessed Essendon getting over the line riding on the back of great games from kids such as Hird, Lucas, Campo, Lloyd and Lucas.
What prospective coach wouldn't rush to sign on with that list of exciting young talent. :)
Not Voss.
That's ironic coming from a supporter whose side takes inspiration from players who are 30 year or older.
The football public witnessed Essendon getting over the line riding on the back of great games from kids such as Hird, Lucas, Campo, Lloyd and Lucas.
What prospective coach wouldn't rush to sign on with that list of exciting young talent. :)
Not Voss.
Obviously your "young talent" wasn't enough to persuade him either:o
DonMania#5
25 Aug 2007, 13:59
1. Leunberger
2. Selwood
3. Boak
4. Gibbs
5. Everitt
Oh and by the way, from a Pies perspective, probably Leuenberger, but we all know they will all be very good players.
jonesy86
25 Aug 2007, 14:58
Yeah we just keep fading in the last 10 minutes of the last quarter for the last 4 weeks. Strange eh. Will take us at least another 2 weeks to break that habit I suspect. :)
If that is your excuse for the last 4 weeks, what's your excuse for the last 6 years? :o
TheGeneral
25 Aug 2007, 15:23
Obviously your "young talent" wasn't enough to persuade him either:o
We only wish we had kids as great as Collingwood's and had Toovey getting a game. :o :rolleyes:
We would have appointed Ratten any way, don't believe what Caroline Wilson says.
If that is your excuse for the last 4 weeks, what's your excuse for the last 6 years? :o
What's your excuse for the past 50 seasons and the loss to Richmond? :)
Oh and by the way, from a Pies perspective, ....
..Fanning was a good draft pick. Collingwood perspective. :)
Thunderstruck
25 Aug 2007, 16:26
It is clear that Selwood has had the best year and would justifyably get the #1 spot, but in terms of actual football talent, Gibbs has it on all of them, the little things he does NOBODY EVER seems to notice, there are gameday match watchers and then there are talent scout football watchers. Gibbs has been rated as the best of the lot, and certainly will turn out that way mark my words. His skills are excellent, reason why he seems so damned average because he does everything without even a breath, doesn't even look like he is trying. He'll be right once his fitness gets up, been running to all the right positions. He is not a proper 30 touch midfielder, more so a 20-25 touch midfielder of quality hurtful and team disposals.
Now all the others bar Everitt have similar veins of talent, Everitt is the level below yet is still going to turn out very good. Berger will rival Cox no doubt in years to come, Selwood will be in the best 2-3 at Geelong but without being an absolute game breaker, I actually think he is a bit one paced despite being a very good hard inside player. I'd prob rate Boak ahead of Selwood on talent, Selwood has just been used PROPERLY this year, Gibbs lesser so until recently.
Just my opinions anyways
..Fanning was a good draft pick. Collingwood perspective. :)
Yet cheaper than Ackland and McLaren. And we didn't have to sign Fanning up for 3 years.
Snap
Port_GW
25 Aug 2007, 17:58
It is clear that Selwood has had the best year and would justifyably get the #1 spot, but in terms of actual football talent, Gibbs has it on all of them, the little things he does NOBODY EVER seems to notice, there are gameday match watchers and then there are talent scout football watchers. Gibbs has been rated as the best of the lot, and certainly will turn out that way mark my words. His skills are excellent, reason why he seems so damned average because he does everything without even a breath, doesn't even look like he is trying. He'll be right once his fitness gets up, been running to all the right positions. He is not a proper 30 touch midfielder, more so a 20-25 touch midfielder of quality hurtful and team disposals.
Now all the others bar Everitt have similar veins of talent, Everitt is the level below yet is still going to turn out very good. Berger will rival Cox no doubt in years to come, Selwood will be in the best 2-3 at Geelong but without being an absolute game breaker, I actually think he is a bit one paced despite being a very good hard inside player. I'd prob rate Boak ahead of Selwood on talent, Selwood has just been used PROPERLY this year, Gibbs lesser so until recently.
Just my opinions anyways
LOL, like falling over the goal line when he should have converted, how embarassment. As Blightly said one of the all time clangers.
It is clear that Selwood has had the best year and would justifyably get the #1 spot, but in terms of actual football talent, Gibbs has it on all of them, the little things he does NOBODY EVER seems to notice, there are gameday match watchers and then there are talent scout football watchers. Gibbs has been rated as the best of the lot, and certainly will turn out that way mark my words. His skills are excellent, reason why he seems so damned average because he does everything without even a breath, doesn't even look like he is trying. He'll be right once his fitness gets up, been running to all the right positions. He is not a proper 30 touch midfielder, more so a 20-25 touch midfielder of quality hurtful and team disposals....
Perfectly said. :)
99% of the votes for Gibbs have got to be from Carlton supporters, Adelaide supporters and his mum.
But as bias seems to be the way here, and we're all affected by it, I'd say top 5 of last years draft from what they've shown so far:
1. Selwood
2. Boak
3. Westhoff
4. Big Mac
5. Petterd
Port found some serious talent from last yars draft.
Sorry, couldn't find any room for Gibbs, he'd probably sneak into the top 10 at the moment but I can see him slipping down the ranks in a couple of years. May improve when he goes back to Adelaide.
The Royal Sampler
26 Aug 2007, 17:09
1. Selwood
2. Leuenberger
3. Boak
4. Everitt
5. Gibbs
Cheshire Cat
26 Aug 2007, 23:53
I haven't seen Leuenberger play, but Selwood is the best so far. Has to be. He is a genuine ball-winner and hard nut. Fact is he already good enough to play in our midfield and we've got some very good midfielders.
Carlton fans have their head in the sand if they think Gibbs is in any way ahead of the rest. They got caught up in the media hype of Gibbs and chose a midfielder when they CLEARLY needed a ruckman and now Leuenberger has all the making of a star, Gibbs is squibbing contests and Cain "three years" Ackland is nowhere to be seen.
Selwood is so much harder at the footy and better at winning the footy than Gibbs that its laughable. Its hard to believe that Carlton blew the superdraft. :)
...Selwood is so much harder at the footy and better at winning the ....
Selwood = A poor mans Marc Murphy. :)
Cheshire Cat
27 Aug 2007, 01:57
Selwood = A poor mans Marc Murphy. :)
Of course you'd say that. Your deranged. It must eat you up inside that Selwood has BY FAR out-performed glamour boy Gibbs.
.. It must eat you up inside that Selwood has BY FAR out-performed glamour boy Gibbs.
When you start watching football matches instead of just reading online footy-stats, you'll realise that Selwood has about 0.01% of the natural talent Gibbs has. :)
Cheshire Cat
27 Aug 2007, 02:05
When you start watching football matches instead of just reading online footy-stats, you'll realise that Selwood has about 0.01% of the natural talent Gibbs has. :)
Take your own advice. If Gibbs had 0.01% of tenacity and hardness at the ball the Selwood does he mightn't be the biggest number 1 pick blunder since the national competition's inception. Carlton just can't do anything right can they?
Jeremias
27 Aug 2007, 10:30
Take your own advice. If Gibbs had 0.01% of tenacity and hardness at the ball the Selwood does he mightn't be the biggest number 1 pick blunder since the national competition's inception. Carlton just can't do anything right can they?
We seem to be pretty good at embarrassing you in grand finals.
:thumbsu:
We seem to be pretty good at embarrassing you in grand finals.
:thumbsu:
We just embarrass you 2 times a year :D
Jeremias
27 Aug 2007, 11:55
We just embarrass you 2 times a year :D
You didn't embarrass us earlier in the year, it was a very good game.
Selwood = A poor mans Marc Murphy. :)
Murphy = A poor mans Gerrard Bennett
Ok, maybe not.
Maquis de Saad
27 Aug 2007, 13:38
Selwood by a mile. The top 3 picks of a so-called Superdraft have been disappointing. Or perhaps they have just been overrated. If Gibbs was taken at pick 30+ people would say he's done well to play every game. Was every game deserved? Probably not, but that is more indicative of Carltons list.
windyhill
27 Aug 2007, 20:43
Selwood easily from that lot. Gibbs ? Hmmm, disappointing, very disappointing.
From those listed:
First: Selwood and Boak. I won't split them, I've seen more of Selwood and wouldn't have a problem putting him first, but the 3 or 4 games I've seen from Boak were superb. Both doing it in really top class midfields where no-one has time to look at them with all the Ablett's, Cornes', Bartels and Burgoyne's though. Not to take anything away from them, but compare it to say Murphy (second year player I know) running around for Carlton this year.
Third: Gibbs. I can't help but feel that he was handled poorly by Carlton, but there is talent there no doubt. My main memory of him from the 2 or 3 junior games I saw on tape where of his beautiful long kicking. Do I remember wrongly? I've made it a point to watch Carlton games and keep an eye out for him and I don't think I've seen him kick it further than 20 metres, and he usually gives off a handball.
Fourth: The Berg. In the Brisbane Hawthorn game Leunberger was in a ruck contest with Jarryd Roughead. Now Roughie isn't a ruckman, but he does a fair bit when the ball gets into our forward line. Anyway, Roughie is a big unit, and Leunberger pushed him out of the way. To see that level of body positioning and nouce in a first year ruck was pretty impressive. Because he sure didn't do it on strength. Would be higher if he had played more this year I have no doubt.
Not ranked: Everitt. I just haven't seen enough of him. The little bits of seen were very impressive though.
Not listed:
Gumbleton: Was massively talked up prior to the draft, and it looks like it was all true. The Dons probably need a Boak or Selwood in their midfield more, but you can't go wrong with class like this.
The Geelong Manchild: If he has a big pre-season and looses the puppy fat and adds some fitness he'll be unstoppable. Simple as that.
Anyone else really excited about next year and seeing Gumbleton, Hawkins, Hansen, Thorp and even Reid starting to line up more often for their respective clubs?
hinders
28 Aug 2007, 16:23
bryce gibbs is a girl wearing a football jumper just like the rest of carlton
...Third: Gibbs. I can't help but feel that he was handled poorly by Carlton, but there is talent there no doubt. My main memory of him from the 2 or 3 junior games I saw on tape where of his beautiful long kicking. Do I remember wrongly? I've made it a point to watch Carlton games and keep an eye out for him and I don't think I've seen him kick it further than 20 metres, and he usually gives off a handball....
Yeah he is an excellent kick. But the penetration on his kicking has definitely tapered toward the end of his first season. Early on he could clear 50m easily, with a perfect technique, low, fast and deadly accurate. The guy looks completely exhausted right now. He's probably had way too much gametime for his first year. He'll play a lot more attacking roles under Ratten next year. than he would have under Denis. Suspect he'll mostly play in the middle, once he gets a solid pre-season and fitness base. He is an unbelievably skilled midfielder. :)
SCRAY72
28 Aug 2007, 21:01
The Berger for me but extremely happy with Everitt. A great get at pick 11.
trueblue_91
28 Aug 2007, 21:15
The Berger for me but extremely happy with Everitt. A great get at pick 11.
He is... has shown some good signs.
This was one freak draft
I'm gonna mention him again because everyone seems to forget how good Petterd was since his injury but what he showed in a loser team was very good.
He probably won't be in the top five from the draft at careers end with all the very good looking KPP's about but with what he showed this year he will definately be a player.