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jules101
2 Sep 2007, 22:54
According to a WA paper i saw yesterday they are interested.. Possibly for Murphy... Kep played well yesterday I would keep him for another year
According to a WA paper i saw yesterday they are interested.. Possibly for Murphy... Kep played well yesterday I would keep him for another year
If he's traded, it will be to either St.Kilda or Melbourne
Storyboy
2 Sep 2007, 23:47
If he's traded, it will be to either St.Kilda or Melbourne
What makes you think so? :confused:
Daytripper
3 Sep 2007, 08:43
According to a WA paper i saw yesterday they are interested.. Possibly for Murphy... Kep played well yesterday I would keep him for another year
Why would we want Murphy ?
Where would he play ?
Cound not care less if bradley was traded or not. But the fact is that there are probably too many people ahead of him that have to go first.
I think the club needs to keep him and try and develop him some more. They say that the bigger blokes take longer so i would perservere.
kelvin_sheedy
3 Sep 2007, 10:02
Why in hell would we want Murphy?
I though Keps had a good game on Sunday playing wing/half forward.
His kicking was good and he banged one home from outside 50.
I'd only consider a defender or midfielder or some exhange of picks for him but I also wouldn't mind giving him another year or two.
I would agree with that Kelvin, his trade value would be about as low as it could be right now. If he plays a decent year as a forward next year his trade value would significantly increase.
Longy413
3 Sep 2007, 10:18
We wouldn't want Murphy.
He's similar at this stage to Neagle and I think Neagle is going to be better than him.
That said, Murphy could also become a good AFL football given the opportunities.
Kepler does three things well, he's a good mark, he's a good long kick and he has a fantastic running ability that makes him a difficult matchup.
Now that Monfries looks like he's made the transition to a midfielder, a spot across half forward has opened up. Especially given Lucas has played his best footy closer to goal this season and Lloyd has also looked good across half forward and hitting the contest hard.
kelvin_sheedy
3 Sep 2007, 10:21
I would agree with that Kelvin, his trade value would be about as low as it could be right now. If he plays a decent year as a forward next year his trade value would significantly increase.
Or conversely it could even get lower in the next year or so. He might not have the opportunities at Essendon with all our forwards.
I'd look at trading him now if the right offer comes along. I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are a few clubs that see a lot of value in him.
Kepler needs a new coach. Sheedy used him as a fix it player which is not in his scope, he is worth a punt with renewed governance. Someone mentioned he has three skills, he has four; investiture. We have given him too much developement pedigree for a big fella to lose faith now. Must be given one further opportunity under a new coach to see where he is headed. too little trade value for lost potential
Bombs Away
3 Sep 2007, 11:38
Until this week all the kep haters were having a ball. Whilst he didnt set the world on fire showed that can handle it in the big time when he is played in the right position.
Now that we are starting a new era hopefully our new coach will see him and lucas as forwards only.
As stated here with monfries doing well in the middle HFF or wing can be his spot (if there is no spot for him there he should play at bendigo)
Now that Monfries looks like he's made the transition to a midfielder, a spot across half forward has opened up.
Monfires spot was, I guess theoretically, that of a small forward, but never plays like one.
IMO his spot is always under fire, as a small forward, as we are structurally much better offensively and defensively with Davey and hopefully Jetta next season, both being played as the ground level forwards. We are too heavy structuarly, and we need ground level bite in the forwardline.
I just cant see how we can incorporate Bradley into our 22 as a forward, injuries being reasonable. Gumby and Neagle will be developed in the coming seasons, Ryder will start to become a whole ground player and this is on top of Lloyd/Lucas. He may develop into an OK player, but I think our balance says we need to cut him lose. Others may need him more than we do. The doggies may.
Id throw him out there for a trade, and see who bites with what. Take it from there.
Pevers-Legend
3 Sep 2007, 11:56
Saturday was proof of why Sheedy had to go and why Keps has suffered because of him.
He may become more than a forward in the future, but for the moment - he is a HFF who provides a marking target acorss the middle of the ground. He doesn't make us slow as he should never be in the F50.
We should keep him and play him forward and see what he can do. St. Kilda a few years ago had a stacked forward lien and it worked because they played together as a team (note TD's invovlement) and did not crowd int he F50.
VanDerHaar
3 Sep 2007, 11:57
1. Kepler needs an attitude transplant
2. The Bukkdogs would probably be interested given their lack of KPP's and abundance of runners that they could swap for...
Longy413
3 Sep 2007, 12:02
Our forward line set up was fantastic on the weekend.
Kepler really opened up the space for Lucas and Neagle behind him.
We had a forward line of - Hird, Lucas, Monfries, Bradley, Lloyd, Neagle, for a lot of the last quarter. A position already opens up there next season with Hird going. Another position as Monfries plays more in the midfield.
Gumby isn't ready to play 22 games yet, he's basically a depth player next season. Neagle probably won't come into his own until later next season and that's dependent on him having a big preseason.
There is a spot for Kepler, his running ability reduces "top heavy" theory. Because of his running and marking ability he demands an opponent. That then opens space for Lloyd and Lucas, just like it did on the weekend. He's ahead of Gumby and Neagle at the moment.
Monfires spot was, I guess theoretically, that of a small forward, but never plays like one.
IMO his spot is always under fire, as a small forward, as we are structurally much better offensively and defensively with Davey and hopefully Jetta next season, both being played as the ground level forwards. We are too heavy structuarly, and we need ground level bite in the forwardline.
I just cant see how we can incorporate Bradley into our 22 as a forward, injuries being reasonable. Gumby and Neagle will be developed in the coming seasons, Ryder will start to become a whole ground player and this is on top of Lloyd/Lucas. He may develop into an OK player, but I think our balance says we need to cut him lose. Others may need him more than we do. The doggies may.
Id throw him out there for a trade, and see who bites with what. Take it from there.
Spot on.
I have been a supporter of keps for quite awhile but with our list there is just not a spot for him.
With players like Lloyd, Lucas, Gumby, Neagle and Hille/Laycock as good resting forward options, there is just not enough room for him.
I'm not saying we should get rid of him for nothing, but we really need to shop him around for something we need.
Longy413
3 Sep 2007, 12:03
1. Kepler needs an attitude transplant
What a load of crap.
Spot on.
I have been a supporter of keps for quite awhile but with our list there is just not a spot for him.
With players like Lloyd, Lucas, Gumby, Neagle and Hille/Laycock as good resting forward options, there is just not enough room for him.
I'm not saying we should get rid of him for nothing, but we really need to shop him around for something we need.
I agree.
I tended to cringe everytime he sent the ball inside 50.
So did I for Stanton for that matter aswell, that bloke needs to seriously work on his decision making / disposal when taking the ball forward because alot of what he was delivering was rubbish to our leading forwards.
Our forward line set up was fantastic on the weekend.
Kepler really opened up the space for Lucas and Neagle behind him.
We had a forward line of - Hird, Lucas, Monfries, Bradley, Lloyd, Neagle, for a lot of the last quarter. A position already opens up there next season with Hird going. Another position as Monfries plays more in the midfield.
Gumby isn't ready to play 22 games yet, he's basically a depth player next season. Neagle probably won't come into his own until later next season and that's dependent on him having a big preseason.
There is a spot for Kepler, his running ability reduces "top heavy" theory. Because of his running and marking ability he demands an opponent. That then opens space for Lloyd and Lucas, just like it did on the weekend. He's ahead of Gumby and Neagle at the moment.
It would not be bad for Gumby/Neagle to go back to the VFL and learn to dominate at that level. If they dominate and demand a position, that is when you can bring them in.
Our forward line set up was fantastic on the weekend.
Kepler really opened up the space for Lucas and Neagle behind him.
We had a forward line of - Hird, Lucas, Monfries, Bradley, Lloyd, Neagle, for a lot of the last quarter. A position already opens up there next season with Hird going. Another position as Monfries plays more in the midfield.
Gumby isn't ready to play 22 games yet, he's basically a depth player next season. Neagle probably won't come into his own until later next season and that's dependent on him having a big preseason.
There is a spot for Kepler, his running ability reduces "top heavy" theory. Because of his running and marking ability he demands an opponent. That then opens space for Lloyd and Lucas, just like it did on the weekend. He's ahead of Gumby and Neagle at the moment.
Our forward line set up was terrific for one quarter when one player kicked 7 goals in a quarter a feat achieved by 3 other blokes. I agree with you though that Kepler's running makes him a more difficult match up and might make up for lloyd and Lucas' weaknesses.
Courtney Johns would be in a lot of trouble I reckon.
jules101
3 Sep 2007, 13:20
Why would we want Murphy ?
Where would he play ?
Thats what the paper was saying, because he is a Melbourne boy
According to a WA paper i saw yesterday they are interested.. Possibly for Murphy... Kep played well yesterday I would keep him for another year
Was in Subiaco yesterday morning and read that very article... nearly choked on my breakfast!!!
Didn't just mention they were interested in our 'up and coming ruck stock' but that they were willing to fight! :confused:
Why is everyone so sure that first or second year draftees can do what developed KP cannot. You may not like Kepler but it would be foolhardy to think that our younger brigade are ready to do better. He is more valuable now especially with Sheedy gone.
Not for sale
Agree with FOJ1
Courtney Johns much more interesting on the trade table
jules101
3 Sep 2007, 13:34
Was in Subiaco yesterday morning and read that very article... nearly choked on my breakfast!!!
Didn't just mention they were interested in our 'up and coming ruck stock' but that they were willing to fight! :confused:
haha shhh dont act so suprised they might work out he cant play footy ;)
jules101
3 Sep 2007, 13:35
Why is everyone so sure that first or second year draftees can do what developed KP cannot. You may not like Kepler but it would be foolhardy to think that our younger brigade are ready to do better. He is more valuable now especially with Sheedy gone.
Not for sale
Agree with FOJ1
Courtney Johns much more interesting on the trade table
We wont get anything for Johns... 3rd round draft pick if we are lucky
1. Kepler needs an attitude transplant
2. The Bukkdogs would probably be interested given their lack of KPP's and abundance of runners that they could swap for...
And this post bewilders me
Bradley is renowned at EFC for team spirit and popularity. Would you mind explaining why you opine his "attitude"?
We wont get anything for Johns... 3rd round draft pick if we are lucky
Where do i sign? :D
jules101
3 Sep 2007, 13:40
Where do i sign? :D
yea, and thats only if Sheeds is at Freo next year :D
Was in Subiaco yesterday morning and read that very article... nearly choked on my breakfast!!!
Didn't just mention they were interested in our 'up and coming ruck stock' but that they were willing to fight! :confused:
I guess they havnt seen his ruckwork.....
Longy413
3 Sep 2007, 14:49
Our forward line set up was terrific for one quarter when one player kicked 7 goals in a quarter a feat achieved by 3 other blokes.
It was a remarkable feat and I haven't lost sight of that, but it was made somewhat easier (if that's possible) by the fact that he had the space to run into.
West Coast were very good at getting defenders back infront of Lloyd early. But as soon as Lucas went deep and Kepler pushed higher, we created space.
I'm not surprised freo are intersted as they rated him number one in the 2003 draft. If they offer a quality trade then i'd pull the trigger, he has too many negatives to his game to be a big time player and we may as well get something of value for him.
go_the_bombers
3 Sep 2007, 15:23
I'm not surprised freo are intersted as they rated him number one in the 2003 draft. If they offer a quality trade then i'd pull the trigger, he has too many negatives to his game to be a big time player and we may as well get something of value for him.
What would you accept for him marcuz?
What would you accept for him marcuz?
a second round pick.
go_the_bombers
3 Sep 2007, 15:28
a second round pick.
thats fair
Wahooti Fandango
3 Sep 2007, 19:03
Why is everyone so sure that first or second year draftees can do what developed KP cannot. You may not like Kepler but it would be foolhardy to think that our younger brigade are ready to do better. He is more valuable now especially with Sheedy gone.
Not for sale
Agree with FOJ1
Courtney Johns much more interesting on the trade table
100% agree. Kep offers more than Johns. The Dogs may be ineterested in Johns.
Broady Poker Tour
3 Sep 2007, 19:28
Why would there be any talk of Essendon trading anyone when we don't have a coach at the moment? I know Dodoro is in charge of list management, but surely the coach would have a say about who stays and who goes
FootyGuru
3 Sep 2007, 19:52
I agree.
I tended to cringe everytime he sent the ball inside 50.
So did I for Stanton for that matter aswell, that bloke needs to seriously work on his decision making / disposal when taking the ball forward because alot of what he was delivering was rubbish to our leading forwards.
are you joking i think keplers disposal especially into the forward 50 was better than i have ever seen from him
VanDerHaar
3 Sep 2007, 21:14
What a load of crap.
Longy - I rate some of your comments, but how many times have you met the bloke....???
Longy413
3 Sep 2007, 21:19
Longy - I rate some of your comments, but how many times have you met the bloke....???
You want to make an assessment on the blokes attitude towards footy because you bumped into him whilst he was pissed at a nightclub?
VanDerHaar
3 Sep 2007, 21:19
And this post bewilders me
Bradley is renowned at EFC for team spirit and popularity. Would you mind explaining why you opine his "attitude"?
I have met the bloke on almost a dozen occassions over the last 18 months with my coterian affiliation with the club. Apart from James Hird, he is the most arrogant guy I have met associated with the club. I have said on the site a number of times, he is so far ahead/up himself it's not funny...!! Now - James has a right and reason to be as he is and I understand and respect this, but Kepp....sorry, no way. Him and Andrew Lee prounce around like they are 200 game veterans who have won 3 brownlows each - their is a difference between spirit and arrogance. Daniher, Barnes, Allessio has spirit and were larakins - BUT they earnt that FIRST!!
VanDerHaar
3 Sep 2007, 21:22
You want to make an assessment on the blokes attitude towards footy because you bumped into him whilst he was pissed at a nightclub?
No Longy - I have met him many times at club functions and other related situations. Both have been very sober on most occassions....!
Longy413
3 Sep 2007, 21:25
I have met the bloke on almost a dozen occassions over the last 18 months with my coterian affiliation with the club. Apart from James Hird, he is the most arrogant guy I have met associated with the club. I have said on the site a number of times, he is so far ahead/up himself it's not funny...!! Now - James has a right and reason to be as he is and I understand and respect this, but Kepp....sorry, no way. Him and Andrew Lee prounce around like they are 200 game veterans who have won 3 brownlows each - their is a difference between spirit and arrogance. Daniher, Barnes, Allessio has spirit and were larakins - BUT they earnt that FIRST!!
And again, what does that have to do with his attitude towards his footy?
VanDerHaar
3 Sep 2007, 21:32
And again, what does that have to do with his attitude towards his footy?
What it means Longy - is that when you are arrogant and ahead of yourself, you generally train, prepare and play as if you have already made it....rather doing everything you need to be an elite footballer (see a young Gary O'Donnel).
Mr Xavier did the same thing and see where he ended up.
Longy413
3 Sep 2007, 21:36
What it means Longy - is that when you are arrogant and ahead of yourself, you generally train, prepare and play as if you have already made it.....
But Kepler doesn't train like that.
His performances at Bendigo and his work rate there prove that.
You ask any of the players what they think of Kep and the majority say he's one of the best fella's at the club. Blokes that are arrogant get sorted out pretty quickly at a footy club, at any level. They don't get pumped up by their teammates.
James Hird wanting him to play in his last game says a lot about his thoughts of Kepler.
Just because he doesn't like dealing with rich snobs in a cotorie group when he'd much rather be doing his own thing, doesn't mean he has a poor training ethic.
So I'll ask you again, what does it have to do with his attitude towards his footy?
VanDerHaar
3 Sep 2007, 21:41
But Kepler doesn't train like that.
His performances at Bendigo and his work rate there prove that.
You ask any of the players what they think of Kep and the majority say he's one of the best fella's at the club. Blokes that are arrogant get sorted out pretty quickly at a footy club, at any level. They don't get pumped up by their teammates.
James Hird wanting him to play in his last game says a lot about his thoughts of Kepler.
Just because he doesn't like dealing with rich snobs in a cotorie group when he'd much rather be doing his own thing, doesn't mean he has a poor training ethic.
So I'll ask you again, what does it have to do with his attitude towards his footy?
Longy - you've never met me so how do you know I'm a rich snob...?? Most of the discussions I have had with him have been down to earth and most of the players actually enjoy the company in the coteries. They dont see us as rich snobs - most of us are just normal blokes who just support the club in a different way.
If you have problems reading or understanding - not sure that I need to re-state what his attitude has to do with his footy...
Longy413
3 Sep 2007, 21:46
Longy - you've never met me so how do you know I'm a rich snob...??
I didn't say you were a rich snob.
If you have problems reading or understanding - not sure that I need to re-state what his attitude has to do with his footy...
Because you're confusing his attitude away from footy to that of his attitude towards his footy.
His attitude towards footy is first rate, his results and respect of the playing group prove that. Apologies if I believe that holds a little more weight that your run ins with him in his own time.
VanDerHaar
3 Sep 2007, 21:56
I didn't say you were a rich snob.
Because you're confusing his attitude away from footy to that of his attitude towards his footy.
His attitude towards footy is first rate, his results and respect of the playing group prove that. Apologies if I believe that holds a little more weight that your run ins with him in his own time.
What holds more weight Longy is if his attitude to his footy is so first rate and the playing group respects him and he was drafted in the top 10, why has he been playing at Bendigo all year with outstanding VFL performances....?? Mmmm - maybe the idea was to play him at Bendigo so he learnt how to develop an attitude to EARN a spot not EXPECT a spot...(arrogance toward his footy)
blumfieldisback
3 Sep 2007, 22:13
hmm i tend to think he was kept in the bendigo side until his kicking improved under pressure and his ability to go man on man improved. When he did play seniors he never really had a problem getting the ball but usually those stats were accumulated in clear space. he continually struggled to punch the ball against similar sized opponents.
The collingwqood game was the last straw for the selection commitee and probably thought the only way for bradley to devlop was lift his confidence via the reserves over an extended period of time instead of being in-out in-out. from all reports he played well kicking a few goals most games and constantly being amongst the best but as well know the intensity and pressure of VFL compared to AFL is completely different.
so under any sort of pressure has his disposal and decsion making improved, if he was mainly playing CHF is there a position for him at essendon is he going to be another mark bolton who looked promising in the 2002 finals campaign yet became a flop, if thats the case trade him while we can.
i think we give him another year, see if the new coach can find a position for him, see if he hits the weights and tries to redeem himself from a terrible 2007 unless we are offered marcus drum.
Ludwig van Bertstare
3 Sep 2007, 22:16
Last year I dispised Kepler, but seeing his work rate in Bendigo this year has really impressed me.
HF: Monfries - Lucas - Bradley
FF: Davey - Lloyd - Jetta
I think we need to add more size into our forward line.
All speculation aside, the guy hasnt had a real go up forward. Im a big critic of Bradley,but Im willing to see if a position up forward can prove me wrong.
What holds more weight Longy is if his attitude to his footy is so first rate and the playing group respects him and he was drafted in the top 10, why has he been playing at Bendigo all year with outstanding VFL performances....?? Mmmm - maybe the idea was to play him at Bendigo so he learnt how to develop an attitude to EARN a spot not EXPECT a spot...(arrogance toward his footy)
He was playing at Bendigo most of the year because there was no spot for him in the Essendon forward line...
I'm with Longy on this one, his attitude towards the footy is a totally different thing to his attitude off the field.....(mind you i met him after the B&F last season and he seemed quite down to earth and approachable)
Longy413
4 Sep 2007, 08:59
Mmmm - maybe the idea was to play him at Bendigo so he learnt how to develop an attitude to EARN a spot not EXPECT a spot...(arrogance toward his footy)
Maybe the idea was that he was a 20-21 year old key position player that wasn't fully developed and needed to play full games of footy in order to develop properly.
It's very hard to fast track footballers, it's even harder to fast track key position footballers.
He had areas of his game he needed to fix, his attitude and work rate weren't either of those.
I can't speak for Kep's attitude away from footy, but imho and from what I've seen he gives everything he can when it comes to his footy. As has been pointed out here already I thought his time in the twos had to do with rebuilding his shattered confidence from his time at CHB, getting plenty of game time into him as a forward, and getting his kicking right.
bomberstomake8
4 Sep 2007, 09:33
well we have a lot of tall potential forwards at the momment... the thing is if kep is forward with lloyd and lucas, it begins to make our forward line too tall seeings that gumby will be in there and potentially neagle.. even johns could be a tall forward. we have many players that need to be developed... if we can trade a kepler or johns i think we should really consider it, i think neagle and gumby offer a lot more in terms of potential than kepler and johns...
What holds more weight Longy is if his attitude to his footy is so first rate and the playing group respects him and he was drafted in the top 10, why has he been playing at Bendigo all year with outstanding VFL performances....?? Mmmm - maybe the idea was to play him at Bendigo so he learnt how to develop an attitude to EARN a spot not EXPECT a spot...(arrogance toward his footy)
You are wrong about his attitude to training. He may well be a total dick away from the training track ( cant say he has been too bad when i have spoken to him) but his efforts as far as training go are good. Given i have seen most of the training this year i think im am qualified to judge it. Always one of the first out on the track working on his kicking.Always one of the players who works hard in the drills. What he has done with Bendigo indicates his gives 100% to his footy. He could have easily sulked his way through the year but he didnt. He went out and played really good footy all year.
blumfieldisback
4 Sep 2007, 10:34
well we have a lot of tall potential forwards at the momment... the thing is if kep is forward with lloyd and lucas, it begins to make our forward line too tall seeings that gumby will be in there and potentially neagle.. even johns could be a tall forward. we have many players that need to be developed... if we can trade a kepler or johns i think we should really consider it, i think neagle and gumby offer a lot more in terms of potential than kepler and johns...
the thing with kep however is he has potential to be a follower, not many ruckman run aound the ground picking up posessions, if they could somehow manage it that hille/laycock take the cenre bounce then push forward and take ruck duties from the HFF line, ryder do the ruck work in the back half and have bradley running around the ground well he would serve as the extra midfielder placing immense pressure o the opposition ruckmen running them into the ground.
mayhem20202
4 Sep 2007, 11:37
Interesting to note that all you guys who don't know Kepler Bradley from a bar of soap feel as though you are qualified to comment on the guy as a person. At the end of the day, if I was struggling to get a game, and widely sledged by the majority of Essendon supporters, I would be a bit relucatant to embrace a pissed group of people that I am constantly abused by and generally held in fairly low regard by.
In summary, none of the last 10 - 15 comment, re: Kepler Bradley's attitude are of any relevance. It just seems to be a group of people attempted to pass off the idea that they are more heavily involved with and have more knowledge about a complete stranger who I am sure would not know them if they knocked on his front door.
Longy413
4 Sep 2007, 12:47
It just seems to be a group of people attempted to pass off the idea that they are more heavily involved with and have more knowledge about a complete stranger
Isn't that exactly what you're doing?
How do you know I'm not Kepler Bradley, his brother, his father, his uncle?
blumfieldisback
4 Sep 2007, 14:12
Isn't that exactly what you're doing?
How do you know I'm not Kepler Bradley, his brother, his father, his uncle?
u know longy, mayhem was almost on your side of the fence, well that how i interpreted it, and now you are opposing a defensive question to him? thats a bit odd!!!
and it wouldn't be a surprise to me if you were his father, brother or uncle because u are apparently the father of lovett the uncle of ramanaskaus the son of sheedy and the twin of straughnie.
Daytripper
4 Sep 2007, 15:41
Considering the amount of crap he gets, I wouldn't blame him if he did have a bit of attitude. However whenever I've seen Keps away from footy (usually at PubTab's :D) he just acts like a big, gawky, funloving kid.
Seems to be very popular with the playing group too if that counts for anything.
d-mac3276
4 Sep 2007, 17:03
I would agree with that Kelvin, his trade value would be about as low as it could be right now. If he plays a decent year as a forward next year his trade value would significantly increase.
Yeah so if he had a decent year as a forward next year why would u get rid of him.
OzBomber
4 Sep 2007, 17:09
I don't like Keplar. He's crap IMO. He's as useful as a rusty nail.
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Yeah so if he had a decent year as a forward next year why would u get rid of him.
If that happened and Gumby and Neagle develop well he might be traded anyway. But this time with a lot more value.
I don't like Keplar. He's crap IMO. He's as useful as a rusty nail.
Thanks for the insightful and in depth contribution to the topic. I can't wait for your future well thought out commentaries on other players and news items.
As Jono B said, Gumby and Neagle are most likely not going to demand 22 games next year, while bradley might. If he plays well, but we think Neagle and Gumby will be better in the long run we can then trade away Kepler for a much higher amount, with a draft that is stronger than this years. If he plays badly we've lost the chance ot get what? a third round pick? Hardly make or break stuff. Potential gains of keeping him far outweight the potential losses.
I don't like Keplar. He's crap IMO. He's as useful as a rusty nail.
That's probably why this 'Keplar' you speak of never made it to the AFL.
The similary named Kepler Bradley on the other hand can play a bit. He was presenting brilliantly at Bendigo and used his athleticism to perfection. If he's able to slot into a similar role in the AFL, which he seemed to do okay on Saturday, there may be a future for him at Essendon.
The only thing holding Kep back at the moment is competition for a spot, and I'm okay with that.
If it means that we're able to trade him and address a few areas of concern in return for him, great. If we can't manage that, Kep shouldn't be going anywhere.
Duckworth
5 Sep 2007, 00:49
As Jono B said, Gumby and Neagle are most likely not going to demand 22 games next year, while bradley might. If he plays well, but we think Neagle and Gumby will be better in the long run we can then trade away Kepler for a much higher amount, with a draft that is stronger than this years. If he plays badly we've lost the chance ot get what? a third round pick? Hardly make or break stuff. Potential gains of keeping him far outweight the potential losses.
There are surely quite a few more players that will be retired/delisted before Kep. I vote for keeping him and seeing what happens. Heaven forbid we should develop some KPP depth and some competition for spots in the best 22... :rolleyes:
While I have to eat my humble pie in that Kepler DID look pretty good as CHF against West Coast, I still don't think that his disposal is up to AFL standard. That's my biggest concern with keeping him on the list. And it's something that has been an issue with him for quite some time. And we've all seen the consequences of some of his decisions under pressure... I know what I'd be doing if I were an opposition player. He's had almost 50 games - I think that's long enough to see if he's the goods or not.
While I have to eat my humble pie in that Kepler DID look pretty good as CHF against West Coast, I still don't think that his disposal is up to AFL standard. That's my biggest concern with keeping him on the list. And it's something that has been an issue with him for quite some time. And we've all seen the consequences of some of his decisions under pressure... I know what I'd be doing if I were an opposition player. He's had almost 50 games - I think that's long enough to see if he's the goods or not.
Did you see his pass to Lucas on the last quarter? There is no way Kepler form last year could kick such a flat pin-point pass. It was just an indicaiton of how hard he has worked on his disposal, and how much he can improve that area.
As for the 50 games, how many have been in attack where he should be played? 2? Last weekend, and against the lions where he kicked 4. He hasn't been given a chance to play the role he is suited for.
And as a matter of interest, what would you do if you were an opposition player on him? I'm assuming you're over 195cms as you need that height to get anywhere stopping Keps marking, also I'm assuming you can run all day as he has good endurance, and that you are also mobile, as Keps has played as an onballer as a junoir such is his mobility.
I have met the bloke on almost a dozen occassions over the last 18 months with my coterian affiliation with the club. Apart from James Hird, he is the most arrogant guy I have met associated with the club. I have said on the site a number of times, he is so far ahead/up himself it's not funny...!! Now - James has a right and reason to be as he is and I understand and respect this, but Kepp....sorry, no way. Him and Andrew Lee prounce around like they are 200 game veterans who have won 3 brownlows each - their is a difference between spirit and arrogance. Daniher, Barnes, Allessio has spirit and were larakins - BUT they earnt that FIRST!!
Face it, you just don't like him or he flicked you at one of your "coterian" luncheons. How much value for a sandwich do you want.
Secondly, Arrogance is prancing around chat forums with "informed" knowledge expecting the forum to believe you and not the other 40 odd blokes on the Essendon list who do not share your opinion.
You have proved that you are no estimate of arrogance either on or off the footy field until you swallow your own posts.
And as a matter of interest, what would you do if you were an opposition player on him? I'm assuming you're over 195cms as you need that height to get anywhere stopping Keps marking, also I'm assuming you can run all day as he has good endurance, and that you are also mobile, as Keps has played as an onballer as a junoir such is his mobility.
I'd put him under pressure, and wait for him to fold like a card table.
Sorry, I still can't rate him highly. One good game doesn't make up for so many occasions of frustration - where I'm wondering where that ball's going to go.
I'd put him under pressure,
Wow what an interesting technique. I suppose thats targetted just at Keps, and all others players would avoid putting under pressure yeah? Because Keps is the only player that might not play as well if he is under pressure compared to when he isn't under pressure.:rolleyes:
Interesting to note that all you guys who don't know Kepler Bradley from a bar of soap feel as though you are qualified to comment on the guy as a person. At the end of the day, if I was struggling to get a game, and widely sledged by the majority of Essendon supporters, I would be a bit relucatant to embrace a pissed group of people that I am constantly abused by and generally held in fairly low regard by.
In summary, none of the last 10 - 15 comment, re: Kepler Bradley's attitude are of any relevance. It just seems to be a group of people attempted to pass off the idea that they are more heavily involved with and have more knowledge about a complete stranger who I am sure would not know them if they knocked on his front door.
What are you babbling about? There was one poster who said he'd met him, that he was arrogant and was trying to relate that back to him having a poor attitude to his football - hardly a group. There were two others iirc who claimed to have met him just in passing and that he was nice enough. Most of the rest of the replies were about how his attitude to his football seemed spot on - gauged by simply watching him train, play for Bendigo and play for Essendon, no need for being an insider or claims of being one.
Pevers-Legend
6 Sep 2007, 13:01
I'd put him under pressure, and wait for him to fold like a card table.
Sorry, I still can't rate him highly. One good game doesn't make up for so many occasions of frustration - where I'm wondering where that ball's going to go.
Blame the Ex-coach - one good game becuase he was played in the right position.
see what he can do as a roaming HFF next year. We all know he will never ever be a backman.