Collingwood VS Sydney - Elimination Final!

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Well, here we go again, up against our bogey side of the past 2 seasons, opposed to Adelaide who's our bogey side of the past 8 seasons lol, but i digress.

Fans for both sides could make a decent argument in favour of their club, i'm gonna start with just a couple of reasons, to get things going.

I think one of the big differences between the match this week, and the game in round 21, is the defenders that Sydney will have back. Brennan just shouldn't be playing on Rusling for a start lol, i think the Collingwood forwards will find their task a lot more difficult this weekend. Also, never underestimate the difference that finals pressure will make, and it will make a difference. Sydney have had more experience at tough finals in recent years, and i expect that to count for a lot.

Collingwood will be hoping to continue it's recent dominance over the Swans and take it into this finals series. I think this will depends on the Pies not drifting from what's worked for them on the last three occasions. I believe they did that by taking Sydney away from it's comfort zone, and moving the ball on at any cost. If we can't get most of the ball going our way this time, then our strengthened defence wont make much of a difference.

I'm not going to end this with a tip, because we all know that's pointless, i just want people to discuss the upcoming final, even fans of opposition clubs, the more unbiased opinions the better!

[jonesy86]

I take your point with defenders coming back, but in the first meeting this year we were without Clement, Prestigiacomo, O'Brien and Buckley just to name a few, whilst Sydney had Leo Barry but didn't have Nick Davis or LRT.
When we met again we had Clement, O'Brien and Buckley back with Josh Fraser missing and Sydney had Nick Davis back (Clement dominated him) and were missing Leo Barry and LRT.

The main thing in Sydney's favour is they are coming off a game where they destroyed Hawthorn. It will be interesting to see if they rush back Kenelly (who may not be match fit) and whether or not Hall changes their dynamics from Sunday. I'm assuming Bucannon will be a straight swap for Ablett.

Let's hope the pies get the hat-trick over the Swans. :thumbsu:

[james Dean]

Sydney own September and will win

[KissStephanie]

Well, here we go again, up against our bogey side of the past 2 seasons, opposed to Adelaide who's our bogey side of the past 8 seasonsI've seen your trolling on the Collingwood board before they were deleted by a moderator declaring how Sydney will win this week. If they don't, there will be a few people looking for you next week.

Collingwood have beaten Sydney twice this season so far. Collingwood were not expected to win either time. The Swans are sure to start to favourites again despite this, so I doubt that any Collingwood supporter is not expecting a tough match. You were talking as though Sydney has already won.

[DeadlyAkkuret]

I've seen your trolling on the Collingwood board before they were deleted by a moderator declaring how Sydney will win this week. If they don't, there will be a few people looking for you next week.

Collingwood have beaten Sydney twice this season so far. Collingwood were not expected to win either time. The Swans are sure to start to favourites again despite this, so I doubt that any Collingwood supporter is not expecting a tough match. You were talking as though Sydney has already won.

Am i supposed to be scared now? lol seriously you Collingwood fans can't have an opinion without getting snarky.

[KissStephanie]

Am i supposed to be scared now?Scared? What of? :confused: Your trolling and stirring on the Collingwood board regarding this weekends match will be remembered though if Sydney do lose. But they are hot favourites yet again for a third time this season, and you are so sure they'll win according to your post, so you have nothing to be concerned about. Right?

[Mr Magoo]

this should be the closest game this weekend & quite possibly one of the best games this season... the head says Sydney (especially after seeing them on Sunday) but my wallet says Collinwood .....

[Cuzz09]

Sydney by 9 points.

[stmookeyj]

It's their first meeting in a final since 1945, when the Swans would win en route to the bloodbath GF.

[nicky]

I take your point with defenders coming back, but in the first meeting this year we were without Clement, Prestigiacomo, O'Brien and Buckley just to name a few, whilst Sydney had Leo Barry but didn't have Nick Davis or LRT.
When we met again we had Clement, O'Brien and Buckley back with Josh Fraser missing and Sydney had Nick Davis back (Clement dominated him) and were missing Leo Barry and LRT.

The main thing in Sydney's favour is they are coming off a game where they destroyed Hawthorn. It will be interesting to see if they rush back Kenelly (who may not be match fit) and whether or not Hall changes their dynamics from Sunday. I'm assuming Bucannon will be a straight swap for Ablett.

Let's hope the pies get the hat-trick over the Swans. :thumbsu:

I think this could work against us and the fact collingwood lost to the crows could work for you...

Neither team has been convincing of recent times. I wouldn't be surprised if this game was an ugly yet close game.

FWIW if we thrash collingwood and look really hot, we'll win the flag (heh heh heh, well part of this is probably wishful thinking, but anyway)

[nicky]

this should be the closest game this weekend & quite possibly one of the best games this season... the head says Sydney (especially after seeing them on Sunday) but my wallet says Collinwood .....


damn it, i didn't see the game on sunday, did we look like an 05/06 swans?

[johnnyhoward]

It's their first meeting in a final since 1945, when the Swans would win en route to the bloodbath GF.
:eek: Unbelievable how they can avoid playing each other in a final for 60+ years...

[RUNVS]

damn it, i didn't see the game on sunday, did we look like an 05/06 swans?

In some ways we were better. Not only did we dominate a team which was attempting to get a top 4 spot but we did it in a very entertaining way. The Swans moved the ball so quickly it was like watching a completely different team.

[nicky]

In some ways we were better. Not only did we dominate a team which was attempting to get a top 4 spot but we did it in a very entertaining way. The Swans moved the ball so quickly it was like watching a completely different team.


good lord :D :thumbsu: that is awesome news. :thumbsu::thumbsu:

[TheMase]

:eek: Unbelievable how they can avoid playing each other in a final for 60+ years...

We were rubbish for so so so long....

[Bloods]

:eek: Unbelievable how they can avoid playing each other in a final for 60+ years...

We didn't win a final between 1945 and 1996. I think we only played in 4 finals series in that time too - 1970, 1977, 1986 and 1987.

[Ragnarok14]

damn it, i didn't see the game on sunday, did we look like an 05/06 swans?

Nothing like the 05 swans, you can't play that way anymore unfortunately. We looked good but Hawthorn seemed to give up so its hard to tell just how effective the swans were when they put on the big score, on the other side when hawthorn did start playing we did still manage to out score them by a point I think so its a nice return to form.

[EasternHills]

Sydney by 22 points.

[TheMase]

Nothing like the 05 swans, you can't play that way anymore unfortunately. We looked good but Hawthorn seemed to give up so its hard to tell just how effective the swans were when they put on the big score, on the other side when hawthorn did start playing we did still manage to out score them by a point I think so its a nice return to form.

With complete respect to Hawthorn, we hammered them in the first half and hung up the boots in the second.

There was one passage of play in that 3rd quarter where their ruckman had a bounce through the centre (Taylor?). There were players standing either side, walking. The reason he had that much space is nobody chased him.

The game completely fizzed out after half time. Sydney did what they had to do to maintain their lead, they slipped down to 3rd gear.

Hawthorn were poor, however Sydney did not allow them any space in any part of the ground. Hawthorn were either really really terrible, and it was a training run for Sydney. Or it was the most dominating performance I have ever seen from the Sydney Swans.

I think the answer lies somewhere in between.

[lazy]

The young Pies dont need finals experience especially at the MCG where they play in front of huge crowds every week. I think they will settle early.

Lets hope Barry Hall plays as true CHF and becomes the link man for Kennelly and Leo coming out of defense. This will allow more space for davis and Micky and OKeefe. If Presti gets BBBB then we should have an easy out of defense plan everytime. If BBBB plays FF on Presti then thats a win for the Pies.

Our Defense should be the best it has all year. I would play Bolton on Rocca, LRT on Cloke, Leo as a sweeper (2nd man up). Tiger on Rusling. Malceski on Thomas. With no Brennen giving away 4 goals will help. I think we wont give up a big score but I dont think the Pies will give us a big score either.

Both teams have workmanlike midfields with no players worth heavy tags. Goodes is the only star in this regard and the Pies will need to stop him which I dont think they can. They may be happy to let him run riot if they can keep everyone else quiet.

I like Sydneys chances if Tiger plays. He is our Irish lucky charm. Swans by 3 goals:thumbsu:

[FixterFan]

The young Pies dont need finals experience especially at the MCG where they play in front of huge crowds every week. I think they will settle early.

Lets hope Barry Hall plays as true CHF and becomes the link man for Kennelly and Leo coming out of defense. This will allow more space for davis and Micky and OKeefe. If Presti gets BBBB then we should have an easy out of defense plan everytime. If BBBB plays FF on Presti then thats a win for the Pies.

Our Defense should be the best it has all year. I would play Bolton on Rocca, LRT on Cloke, Leo as a sweeper (2nd man up). Tiger on Rusling. Malceski on Thomas. With no Brennen giving away 4 goals will help. I think we wont give up a big score but I dont think the Pies will give us a big score either.

Both teams have workmanlike midfields with no players worth heavy tags. Goodes is the only star in this regard and the Pies will need to stop him which I dont think they can. They may be happy to let him run riot if they can keep everyone else quiet.

I like Sydneys chances if Tiger plays. He is our Irish lucky charm. Swans by 3 goals:thumbsu:

Presti's still recovering from injury and unlikely to play - Wakelin is the one that's going to match him up instead (although the take him up the ground point still stands. Didn't happen last time, so Hall got thrashed). Malceski on Thomas hasn't worked out well the last two times its been tried - it might be worthwhile putting Dempster on him instead, or even better Bevan though he's likely to be needed on Leon Davis and thus not available. Tiger takes whoever our 3 talls don't take, and Malceski should play forward this time.

Pendlebury is the one in the midfield that we should probably put the hardest tag on. I don't think he's had brilliant games against us, but he remains the one I think deserves the hardest tag. Because he spends a bit of time forward Mathews would normally be a good option for him, but since he's done so well on Lockyer Roos may be tempted to stick with that matchup in which case Crouch might be the one to apply the clamps. Crouch would require some help in marking duels though.

[doppleganger]

Our Defense should be the best it has all year. I would play Bolton on Rocca, LRT on Cloke, Leo as a sweeper (2nd man up). Tiger on Rusling. Malceski on Thomas. With no Brennen giving away 4 goals will help. I think we wont give up a big score but I dont think the Pies will give us a big score either.
Hope so, Thomas gave him a belting at TS and Thomas plays quality footy in big games!

Both teams have workmanlike midfields with no players worth heavy tags. Goodes is the only star in this regard and the Pies will need to stop him which I dont think they can. They may be happy to let him run riot if they can keep everyone else quiet.
Goodes was BOG by an absolute street in rnd 21......did everything, and yet the pies still won fairly easily.......cant see him having a bigger influence than the rnd 21 game.

[Bay Pie]

Pendlebury is the one in the midfield that we should probably put the hardest tag on. I don't think he's had brilliant games against us, but he remains the one I think deserves the hardest tag. Because he spends a bit of time forward Mathews would normally be a good option for him, but since he's done so well on Lockyer Roos may be tempted to stick with that matchup in which case Crouch might be the one to apply the clamps. Crouch would require some help in marking duels though.

*cough* Bucks *cough*

He may be 35 but he is as fresh as a daisy and now has 3 games under his belt. Also does not have his usual minder in Ablett. Don't take your eye off him as he will hurt you.

No way near as confident as I was with the 2 H&A games this year but still think we can get the Swans provided we can keep BBB Hall in reasonable check.

[FixterFan]

*cough* Bucks *cough*

He may be 35 but he is as fresh as a daisy and now has 3 games under his belt. Also does not have his usual minder in Ablett. Don't take your eye off him as he will hurt you.

No way near as confident as I was with the 2 H&A games this year but still think we can get the Swans provided we can keep BBB Hall in reasonable check.

He's dangerous, its just that I think Pendlebury is even more dangerous, and yes that is scary when you think about the fact that he's only in his 2nd year of football. It was really noticeable how the Pies midfield didn't look the same when he was out for a few weeks a little while back.

Of course, Buckley has been out for the year so no telling how much effect he'll have. What's worst is that with Ablett out we don't really have a natural match-up for him - who gets him will probably depend on whether he lines up in midfield or the forward line, and on how the other match-ups pan out.

If we can improve our competitiveness in midfield, improve the decision-making especially in picking which forward target to go for and improve the pressuring skills then we've got a good chance, but we simply must do better than the last 3 games we've played against you lot, undoubtedly our bogey team of the competition together with Adelaide.

[PieLebo87]

Sydney own September and will win

That just did it for me, thats it, Im changing my vote to Sydney :)

[frankiboy]

Sydney own September and will win

That's the most thoughtful, in depth analysis and I've read so far. Summed it up beautifully! Tank you very much :rolleyes:

As for my own contribution I have 2 words, Hall and Kennelly.

One won't be there, the other may as well not be. Sorry, but Big Bad Bazza's had a shocking year and I can't see him getting any better over night. I think that will be the difference

Yep, that was more than 2 words. Oh well :p

[favourites]

GEX9ZStn5hw

[Bay Pie]

He's dangerous, its just that I think Pendlebury is even more dangerous, and yes that is scary when you think about the fact that he's only in his 2nd year of football. It was really noticeable how the Pies midfield didn't look the same when he was out for a few weeks a little while back.



You do make a very good point there. We missed him far more then I thought we would.

Looking forward to a cracker. Under 10 points either way.

[Optimax]

GEX9ZStn5hw

That worked well, im pumped my anger for davis is at fever pitch.

so all there is left to say is:

FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO PIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CAS79]

It's their first meeting in a final since 1945, when the Swans would win en route to the bloodbath GF.

Excellent, so we have the most recent finals form than .

Seriously this is going to be a tough bruising encounter and to the victors go the potentially depleted Eagles.

Best of luck am hoping but my gut tells me its Collingwood tonight by about 3 goals.

[Zarko]

Well the Woods really ripped em a new one in round 21... but just got that Sydney feeling :D

The Swans to win by 15-19

[Mr Magoo]

any late changes?

[Ekulman]

any late changes?

no changes for either team

[dylan101]

swans by 16

[PUSSIES_07_FLAG]

I'm going for Collingwood they better not get the wobbles.

[Bombers_Forever]

Is it just me of has dale Thomas had his hair cut (and by that, I mean a trim)

[Mr Magoo]

no changes for either team

cheers... my tip collingwood by 1-19 points

[SorryIHammerChicken]

Collingwood will win I hope - let's get another Vic side up there.

Pies by 7 in yet another thriller. Either that or Sydney will tear them apart early.

[dylan101]

i'm going for the Pies aswell

[lifelike_]

I wonder how many time Quarters will mention he's tipped extra time tonight.

Swans by 16.

[stmookeyj]

Winner to go to Perth next weekend, so let's get it on.

[hayesy_27]

As much as i hate to say it pies will end sydneys era and win by 25

[stmookeyj]

Clement on Goodes, Bevan on Buckley.

[hayesy_27]

Sydney point
Syd 0.1.1
Coll 0.0.0

[dylan101]

Micky'O kicks a point to open the scoring

[dylan101]

Collingwood flooding

[stmookeyj]

Maxwell on O'Keefe

[dylan101]

how good was that from Buckley

[hayesy_27]

Rush Behind
Coll 0.1.1
Syd 0.1.1

[Lach72]

Boo-urns you stupid Oompah Loompah

[dylan101]

that's harsh

[hayesy_27]

GOAL SYDNEY
Coll 0.1.1
Syd 1.1.7

[Cousin Jed]

Never seen so many 50 metre penalties in finals before

[Ricardo]

Umps 7-1 Collingwood

:D

[Bombers_Forever]

What a joke - it was a free but not 50. They better be consistent now

[stmookeyj]

Looks like they're interchanging players on Goodes according to Pagan on AW.

[jozeph]

The 50 was there despite the Collingwood cheerleaders masquerading as channel 10 commentators say.

[mr_cellotape]

That's a hell of a precedent to set. If they keep that up, they'll be a couple dozen 50s.

[.Shotties.]

Lol, Collingwood won't like that fifty. If you're trying to make it look as though you're making a contest, best NOT to tackle the player who took the mark.

[dylan101]

brilliant effort by Fraser

[hayesy_27]

Great run down by fraser
COLLINGWOOD GOAL
Coll 1.1.7
Syd 1.1.7

[Bernie Quinlan]

Umps loving Sydney so far ... but can't take the goal off Cloke. 7-7.

[Cousin Jed]

Barry....run down by a ruckman. how embarrassing

[lifelike_]

Leo needs to stop taking players on.

Goal to Cloke.

[hayesy_27]

GOodes misses
Coll 1.1.7
Syd 1.2.8

[plowking]

Is Robert Walls a Collingwood supporter?

[Bombers_Forever]

That's a hell of a precedent to set. If they keep that up, they'll be a couple dozen 50s.

True, but as long as they do the same for both teams, it won't matter.

[Bombers_Forever]

Have a shot Rusling

[stmookeyj]

Pies looking OK when they're able to get forward.

[Bombers_Forever]

Great grab Rocca - should goal from the sqaure

[lifelike_]

Poor effort by Spider.

[hayesy_27]

HUge mark by rocca, no sydney player went for the punch?
MAGPIES GOAL
Coll 2.1.13
Syd 1.2.8

[Jeremias]

Goal to Rocca after a poor effort by Spida

13-8

[stmookeyj]

Crowd wanted 50, not given.

[hayesy_27]

Cloke misses
Coll 2.2.14
Syd 1.2.8
No 50 on that one?

[Cousin Jed]

Cloke...pathetic

[stmookeyj]

Got another shot, and found Medhurst in the pocket.

[hayesy_27]

Rush Behind
Coll 2.3.15
Syd 1.2.8

[Bernie Quinlan]

For someone who is raved about as being such a great user of the ball ... Malceski's disposal is very very average.

[Footylover1]

For someone who is raved about as being such a great user of the ball ... Malceski's disposal is very very average.

God, you're like a bloody broken record. :thumbsd:

[hayesy_27]

Syd point
Coll 2.3.15
Syd 1.3.9

[hayesy_27]

Hall misses
Coll 2.3.15
Syd 1.4.10

[hayesy_27]

Fraser misses
Coll 2.4.16
Syd 1.4.10

[hayesy_27]

Didak Goal
Coll 3.4.22
Syd 1.4.10

[Bernie Quinlan]

Didak! Great goal!

[Ricardo]

Great Goal Didak, and thank goodness the ump didn't pay that in the back, the Sydney guy dived forward.

[Matching Mole]

Listening to the game on internet radio in Paris....geez Rob Tom sounds rusty....

[hayesy_27]

Thomas misses
Coll 3.5.23
Syd 1.4.10

[stmookeyj]

Pies bit like the Eagles last night. Need scoreboard pressure to go with their field pressure.

[hayesy_27]

Pendles goal
Coll 4.5.29
Syd 1.4.10

[Footylover1]

Great Goal Didak, and thank goodness the ump didn't pay that in the back, the Sydney guy dived forward.

Of course he dived forward, it's against Collingwood. :rolleyes:

[voodooguru]

Quarter cannot end too soon.
:thumbsd:

[lifelike_]

Collingwood's last two goals have come from Sydney mistakes.

Great finish from Pendlebury.

[Cousin Jed]

I feel so dirty....but Go Pies!

[dylan101]

Collingwood look on tonight

[Bernie Quinlan]

Pies running all over them at the moment.

[Cousin Jed]

Collingwood's last two goals have come from Sydney mistakes.



Every Collingwood goal has come from a Swans mistake. Really under the gun so far

[dylan101]

That's terrible from the Swans, how can Rocca take basically an uncontested mark there

[hayesy_27]

Rocca goal
Coll 5.5.35
Syd 1.4.10

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Eh, just pathetic right now. Everytime we play the Pies, we just don't turn up until it's too late. It's over already!