The Unofficial Ken McGregor and Ian Perrie Thread

[Capitalist]

Don't want tostart an official thread, cause that’s just conformist :D.

Ian Perrie pulls out of finals with North because his heart is not “in it” weather that is his heart is not with North Adelaide or Football in general that is the question. Rumour has it that he is to be delisted anyway if a trade can not be found (I’ll get a bit of rumour mongering in :D)

Ken McGregor reportly turns down a contract extension with the Crows – annoyed at not being picked through-out the year or just rumour because he hasn’t re-signed yet?

I realise that both these players aren’t on the highest priority for some Crows fans but it seems a bizarre that both players would have had a falling out with club of this proportion after 10 or so years on the list.

Triggy mentioned that next year is a “development year” is this the result – two senior players ready to walk/pushed?

[Blue Red and Gold]

I think its fair to say Ian Perrie is finished, although he has never been my favourite player, you cannot knock him for effort. So for that I wish him well and hope he holds no ill feeling towards the club.

As for Ken McGregor, I personally hope he does go play somewhere else, he is clearly not going to get many chances at the Crows so I think its a win win for both if he does find another club.

He has done nothing wrong in his time at the Crows and I feel it is time to move on.

[RoosterLad]

Well done to Perrie. He understands that North must look to the future and also play a balanced side in the finals, he has also said that if there is an injury he will play if selected. Good work by the NAFC and Sarge.

[ThePeckers]

Sarge is a great bloke, but I won't miss him if he leaves the Crows.

As for Kenny, either way I think I would accept his/the clubs deciesion. Kenny has proven he can kick goals (dead eye dick at times) and can take a mark, but he seems to be out of favour, so if we can get a good draft pick (and with the pick a good young player...not getting my hopes up) I would also be happy.

[bus24]

Have never been an Ian Perrie fan. He's provided me with plenty of laughs along the way (mostly at his expense :p).

But, you can't doubt that he's given it his absolute all. Has outlasted umpteen forwards that should have taken his place and has been here 10 years (Probably a reflection on how woeful forward line has been of recent times)

Has got the absolute most out of his limited ability and you can't really ask for much more than that.

Good luck in the future Pez :thumbsu:



As for Ken, IMO the best option for both the club + Ken himself, is to part ways.

Ken deserves regular AFL footy, which he can get at other clubs, and I would rather see Sellsy and Kurt developed in his place.

Would get something useful through a trade for him, so I think it's win win if he moves on.

All the best Kenny :thumbsu:

[macca23]

As for Ken, IMO the best option for both the club + Ken himself, is to part ways.

Ken deserves regular AFL footy, which he can get at other clubs, and I would rather see Sellsy and Kurt developed in his place.

Would get something useful through a trade for him, so I think it's win win if he moves on.

All the best Kenny :thumbsu:

I've always been a Kenny fan, but it is time to have a development year, and that means Tippett, Sellar, Hentschel, maybe Biglands will all be vying for a couple of tall spots up forward.

Kenny deserves to be playing AFL each week and if a trade is brokered, may just help us upgrade our 1st rounder to the point where we can snaffle a long term class mid-fielder of the future in the draft.

My preference is to trade Kenny as I believe he has good currency this draft.

[jarmanagic]

I just can't believe it is the right decision to let Kenny go. Just remind me how many players in our team can mark inside 50 regularly apart from him?.. I'll answer that, none. Gill is more a lead up forward, Hentschel.. we can only hope he can return and Sellar isnt even in the Glenelg league side

Kenny kicked 18-2 in 9 games this year, 2-3 of which he played mainly down back. A great effort off no pre season. Athleticism not his strength but surely keep him, consolidate Bock at CHB (a class defender, average forward) If you could broker Kenny for Griffen maybe, otherwise no trade

[bus24]

I just can't believe it is the right decision to let Kenny go. Just remind me how many players in our team can mark inside 50 regularly apart from him?.. I'll answer that, none. Gill is more a lead up forward, Hentschel.. we can only hope he can return and Sellar isnt even in the Glenelg league side

Kenny kicked 18-2 in 9 games this year, 2-3 of which he played mainly down back. A great effort off no pre season. Athleticism not his strength but surely keep him, consolidate Bock at CHB (a class defender, average forward) If you could broker Kenny for Griffen maybe, otherwise no trade

I just think it's the right time.

A development year is needed.

Kenny doesn't fit that and deserves regular footy. Hell, we didn't even give it to him this year.

Trade him, it's best for the club long term.... and for Ken short term.

[Stiffy_18]

...If you could broker Kenny for Griffen maybe, otherwise no trade

I am not sure that really is club's decision to make. It appears that Kenny is the one that wants a change of scenery and to be honest, I can't blame him.

We really do need to push in a lot of youngsters through the ranks next year and certainly in key forward position. As a result it could well be beneficial for both parties to part ways as it would give Kenny a deserved opportunity to play regular AFL footy, give us an opening to push in Tippett and/or Sellar and it would also give us something good in return as Kenny would have some good trade value.

It could be a win-win for both sides overall. In short term Kenny gets to play regular AFL footy and we get some quality back on our list.

One thing people overlook though is that Kenny is a finals performer. His record over his career shows that he lifts in finals and that alone will make him an attractive player for some clubs.

[Kane McGoodwin]

Perrie - I have defended him over the years as I think he has been unharshly treated. He has been very important to our structure, but unfortunately his heart appears no longer in it. Gill looks to have overtaken him. I would actually like to see Perrie end up at another club, even if we get little or nothing for him.

McGregor - Think it is best for him & the club to part ways. Haas been a great servant of AFC, but if his games are limited now, can only get worse next year if we are to blood more youngsters. Would be a more than useful acquisition at clubs needing talls like the Bullies. Also, his trade value would still be reasonable to assist us upgrading in the draft on trading for a player of need.

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the knee injury got sarge - hasnt been the same player since

with kenny not sure its best to part ways with him, it leaves us very thin should anything happen to Gill. If he goes i would want a 1st rounder on its own, none of this upgrading our first rounder stuff he's worth more than that imo. The upgrading first rounder can be done with meesen.

[earlsta]

Bad luck to Ian "But I try hard" Perrie, he's been an 'ok' player for us throughout the years.

Imagine we had a 'Matthew Richardson' instead of Perrie throughout the 10 years, would we have won a premiership?

hmmm

[jarmanagic]

the knee injury got sarge - hasnt been the same player since

with kenny not sure its best to part ways with him, it leaves us very thin should anything happen to Gill. If he goes i would want a 1st rounder on its own, none of this upgrading our first rounder stuff he's worth more than that imo. The upgrading first rounder can be done with meesen.

how quickly has a 7 game 9 goal player become the key to our forward line? Too quickly, we need Kenny, Gill a long way off proven AFL player and durability a query

[Dogga79]

Perrie is finished at AFL level and I think even he understands that. I feel sorry for the poor bugger because he cops a lot of flak when I am positive he gives 100% everytime he pulls on a crows gurnsey. If only his ability matched his fitness which is very much at AFL standard. I have seen him run opposition players absolutely ragged. I hope he stays at the Roosters who are my team but I would suspect he will go home.

And what about Kenny? He is like the opposite of the sarge. He has footy smarts and ability too burn. His only problem is he runs at the pace of a man trapped in leg irons and kicks with the power of slight breeze. He has a terrific mark and is a reasonably accurate kick He just doesnt suit craigys super athletic, running type game style. He is good at SANFL level and to be honest if I was the Bullys or Richmond I would pick him up. They need talls and he would tick a lot of boxes.

[Stiffy_18]

how quickly has a 7 game 9 goal player become the key to our forward line? Too quickly, we need Kenny, Gill a long way off proven AFL player and durability a query
Look, I don't disagree with you but I think we need to do this year, what we did with ruckmen last year and that is to move on the solid, proven players on in order to create a spot or 2 for the kids to come in and get some experience.

While the lack of real high quality input from back up ruckman has at times hurt us this year, in the long run it will benefit the club. Griffin is better off now than he was at the start of the season. Same goes for Meesen and Maric.

I think the time is now to make same approach with our key forward. Perrie will retire IMHO and Kenny will move on. We will still have Gill and Hentschel (he will struggle next year though) and then we have Sellar, Tippett and even Griffin to rotate through the forward line to give them some experience and development.

There is also always an option of playing Bock and/or Stevens forward if we get some serious injuries.

I think we need to clear out some players so we can give youngsters an opportunity. It will do us soem damage short term but we will be better off in the long run.

Hawks played Buddy Franklin for a whole season a couple of years back even though he struggled but they got enough games into him and enough experience for him to be a superstar today. We need to do something similar with Tippett and Sellar. I would say Tippett is the one club is really keen to push through.

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how quickly has a 7 game 9 goal player become the key to our forward line? Too quickly, we need Kenny, Gill a long way off proven AFL player and durability a query
agree

[Southerntakeover]

I think need to team up to form a dynamic crime fighting Duo.

Kenny and Sarge will clean up this state.

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After hearing Jarman's comments I think Pez is gone. Jarman said that Ian Perrie is just mentally and physically exhausted with football and he doubted that he would go on next year. To be honest if he has been smart with his money he most probably has made enough where he can do his carpentry and still live comfortably.

The bloke tried hard and had a massive heart, just a shame he didnt have the skills the match it.

[jenny61_99]

Every team has to have the player that has little pure talent, but more heart than the rest put together - Ian Perrie was ours. Ive always admired Sarge... and always been disappointed when people pay out on him, because there has never been a game where he hasn't tried his heart out.

It is time for him to go... he feels it, we know it. He's been a great and very loyal servant to this footy club!

As for Kenny Mc... yes he can take marks and kick goals... but he can't do anything else. I think I said this in my review for 2007... Kenny can't run or chase and can provide no defensive pressure. In an age where attack is more often than not driven from defence, we can't afford to have inflexible, immovable dinosaurs inhabiting our forward line that get constantly run off. We need more mobile, more accountable players... unfortunately Kenny is not either of those things and I think his time too has come.

[Stiffy_18]

As for Kenny Mc... yes he can take marks and kick goals... but he can't do anything else. I think I said this in my review for 2007... Kenny can't run or chase and can provide no defensive pressure. In an age where attack is more often than not driven from defence, we can't afford to have inflexible, immovable dinosaurs inhabiting our forward line that get constantly run off. We need more mobile, more accountable players... unfortunately Kenny is not either of those things and I think his time too has come.
I have been hearing that reasoning for a LONG LONG time now, but I am yet to see him opponent actually hurt us the other way.

Take the final against Hawthorn for example, what is it that Trent Croad did to us?! For a player thats is known as a rebounding key defender he was no where to be seen. People are seriously over analyzing Kenny's lack of pace. As a deep key forward (which is essentially what he is) he pace is more than adequate.

[baaaallllll]

Oh my god who traded Kenny :eek:

Maybe because he is a Henley lad and maybe because he is an Eagles lad or maybe because he can actually take a contested mark I have always liked Kenny. Was only a few years ago we were talking him up as the best CHB in the comp and then as an emerging forward. Still had a pretty good year this year when he got his chance. Personally I would love to see him stay and would be devastated if he left for a crappy trade.

As for Sarge, the writing is on the wall, he is gone. Pity he is going to go out without a Crows premiership under his belt. Always tried hard but often was let down by either his kicking or rubber chest but I think he is generally respected for being an honest hard working player.

Here is one for you flightdreamer, "High fives and strawberry milks" heading your way Sarge and Kenny.

[Wayne's-World]

I have been hearing that reasoning for a LONG LONG time now, but I am yet to see him opponent actually hurt us the other way.

Take the final against Hawthorn for example, what is it that Trent Croad did to us?! For a player thats is known as a rebounding key defender he was no where to be seen. People are seriously over analyzing Kenny's lack of pace. As a deep key forward (which is essentially what he is) he pace is more than adequate.

So....if he's as good as you always say .....then shouldn't he be getting more games ......and not be discussed as draft bait :confused:

Jenny's POV is corrrect IMO and I have been saying that for a LONG time.

Given he can't jump again just an opinion .....But I think the hands in the back rule has not worked in Kenny's favour.
I love the new interpretation ....is now as it was 20 years ago, and is encouraging players to leap early to use their body to push the players out of position.
Sadly not so good for Kenny

[marvin]

As for Kenny Mc... yes he can take marks and kick goals... but he can't do anything else. I think I said this in my review for 2007... Kenny can't run or chase and can provide no defensive pressure. In an age where attack is more often than not driven from defence, we can't afford to have inflexible, immovable dinosaurs inhabiting our forward line that get constantly run off. We need more mobile, more accountable players... unfortunately Kenny is not either of those things and I think his time too has come.

All he can do is take marks and kick goals.

They are assets I actually quite like in a forward!

Pretty much describes Modra, Lockett, Lloyd....

[earlsta]

All he can do is take marks and kick goals.

They are assets I actually quite like in a forward!

Pretty much describes Modra, Lockett, Lloyd....

Comparing McGregor with Modra and Plugger is like comparing bronze with gold.