View Full Version : Lucas for the Doggies #5, Yay or nay?
RED AND BLACK SOLDIER
17 Sep 2007, 17:28
Has been a great player for the mighty Bombers and has been of great service to the club and is still a great player. He is coming closer to the end of his career and would only have 3 or so years left, which brings me to the question, would we let go of him for the Doggies #5 pick and get a gun midfielder for the future with it, or should we keep as he has been been a great player for the club and deserves to remain a 1 club player?
Stants_24_Legend
17 Sep 2007, 17:52
:pNo Hoping Hell would i trade Lucas to the doggies but i would to the eagles for JUdd
cAsEy_18
17 Sep 2007, 17:56
i'd take pick 5 + ?? such as griffen
Darealrath
17 Sep 2007, 18:25
Blasphemy!!! :mad:
Concur.
donsman
17 Sep 2007, 18:29
makes sense for the future but I'm not sure if Essendon would be prepared to get rid of a guy who has provided great service the EFC. Would certainly be a very bold move by the new essendon coach. Can also use that pick to possibly pick up Judd or a gun midfielder
DarthAnnihl8or
17 Sep 2007, 18:34
We couldn't do that to Scotty, he is one of few in this club that bleed for the red & Black, as someone already said.
BLASPHOMY!!!
Special Guest
17 Sep 2007, 18:52
Not a chance - forget it. You might as well offer up Lloyd too.
Lucas busts a gut every week, plays both ends and is a game turner.
i would do it if it involved us ontrading the number 5 pick in a deal for judd
akingofkong
17 Sep 2007, 18:59
Err, How about NO!!! :mad:
Lucas is a don, through and through, There is no way I would want him to be traded, for anyone... On the list of Not for Trade essendon players..... :thumbsd:
retroparty
17 Sep 2007, 19:32
Are we talking about Matthew Boyd or pick 5?
Are we talking about Matthew Boyd or pick 5?
Make them offer both and then tell them to piss off.
kelvin_sheedy
17 Sep 2007, 19:40
Seriously guys... the doggies would not give up pick 5 for Lucas.
Eade said he wouldn't give up pick 5 for Fev so there's no chance for Lucas.
windyhill
17 Sep 2007, 20:15
Drugs.
Broady Poker Tour
17 Sep 2007, 20:39
Not a chance - forget it. You might as well offer up Lloyd too.
Lucas busts a gut every week, plays both ends and is a game turner.
There's an idea. I'd rather trade Lloyd than Lucas. Not that it would ever happen
It would make logical sense for the future... but scotty is a big part of essendon and a gun so it won't happen
drewie_rama
17 Sep 2007, 21:28
Seriously guys... the doggies would not give up pick 5 for Lucas.
Eade said he wouldn't give up pick 5 for Fev so there's no chance for Lucas.
well then hes an idiot
hes delusional if he thinks a team is going to give up a 50 goal a year forward to plug there only gap and not get rewarded hansomley for it
donsman4eva
17 Sep 2007, 21:29
Why are people so set on getting rid of Lucas?
akingofkong
17 Sep 2007, 22:34
Why are people so set on getting rid of Lucas?
Probably the same people who want to get rid of gumby/ryder and jetta.
:eek::thumbsd:
Stargazer
17 Sep 2007, 23:35
Has been a great player for the mighty Bombers and has been of great service to the club and is still a great player. He is coming closer to the end of his career and would only have 3 or so years left, which brings me to the question, would we let go of him for the Doggies #5 pick and get a gun midfielder for the future with it, or should we keep as he has been been a great player for the club and deserves to remain a 1 club player?
Shame on you. :thumbsd:
red+black
18 Sep 2007, 01:46
There's an idea. I'd rather trade Lloyd than Lucas. Not that it would ever happen
Agreed. Lucas >> Lloyd.
Did you actually see the last quarter of the last game he played????? :p
No WAY!
murphy2bedabest
18 Sep 2007, 08:05
Probably the same people who want to get rid of gumby/ryder and jetta.
:eek::thumbsd:
Lucus for pick 5 hahahahahahahaha
the only way the dog will trade pick 5 is for Gumby or Ryder, if this is so you can get Judd. what is getting Judd worth to you?
Essendon_2000
18 Sep 2007, 08:17
No bloody way i'd trade Lucas:mad:
C4[2]Yo`DooR
18 Sep 2007, 08:36
I don't think that would happen because - Lucas is nearly 30.
bomberbastic
18 Sep 2007, 08:50
This would be like trading Santa for a tattslotto ticket. Taking our chances in the draft (at any level) when we know Scotty will continue to bring us gifts would be a huge mistake!
Charliebrow 16
18 Sep 2007, 13:01
In terms of our long term future... Yay
In terms of our short term future... Nay
The Doggies wouldn't do it unless they thought they were a serious contender for the 2008-2010 Premiership. Hard to see after their performance this year.
I doubt we'd do it because he's been such a great player for the red and black and he deserves to be an Essendon player until the day he retires.
RED AND BLACK SOLDIER
18 Sep 2007, 13:16
Shame on you. :thumbsd:
The subject has been brought up quite a few times, and i wanted to ask the question to see where people stood on the idea. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. For the record, if we could trade Lucas as part of a deal to get Judd i'd strongly consider it, afterall he's only the best midfielder in the comp :cool:
Daytripper
18 Sep 2007, 14:13
The subject has been brought up quite a few times, and i wanted to ask the question to see where people stood on the idea. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. For the record, if we could trade Lucas as part of a deal to get Judd i'd strongly consider it, afterall he's only the best midfielder in the comp :cool:
Why do people bring this subject up all the time ?
Its ridiculous.
Players are people too. You don't just move them around between clubs like they're avatars on a video game.
Why would Judd want to come to a club that has just traded one of its most loyal servants ?
Wouldn't say much about the club, would it ?
B-Bomber
18 Sep 2007, 14:19
I just can't imagine Lucas wearing any other color then Red and Black.
http://essendonfc.com.au/images/06/r15mw-27.jpg
Big Scottknowsall
18 Sep 2007, 14:31
Has been a great player for the mighty Bombers and has been of great service to the club and is still a great player. He is coming closer to the end of his career and would only have 3 or so years left, which brings me to the question, would we let go of him for the Doggies #5 pick and get a gun midfielder for the future with it, or should we keep as he has been been a great player for the club and deserves to remain a 1 club player?
WHAT IS WRONG WITH SOME PEOPLE ?????????????????
RED AND BLACK SOLDIER
18 Sep 2007, 14:59
WHAT IS WRONG WITH SOME PEOPLE ?????????????????
Some people like to ask questions about issues that have been brought up and see what peoples opinions are on them.
Make them offer both and then tell them to piss off.
Tell your story walking pal.
If Essendon come to us requesting pick 5 for Lucas we would laugh in their faces. Why would we want a 30 year old that has 2 maybe 3 years left in him?
Pick 5 is a powerful pick- the club that wants Judd will probably need this pick to secure the deal. In that case do you really think we will give it up that easy?
Pick 5 to us may mean landing Fev, Roughhead, Gumby or someone of like. And you know this is true b/c to secure Judd this kind of 3-way trade will need to happen.
blitzme
18 Sep 2007, 15:21
how about we give the doggies johns, kepler and bolton for pick 5.
shame on you for even thinking of trading lucas! :thumbsd::thumbsd::thumbsd::mad:
DapperDon
18 Sep 2007, 15:52
Tell your story walking pal.
If Essendon come to us requesting pick 5 for Lucas we would laugh in their faces. Why would we want a 30 year old that has 2 maybe 3 years left in him?
Pick 5 is a powerful pick- the club that wants Judd will probably need this pick to secure the deal. In that case do you really think we will give it up that easy?
Pick 5 to us may mean landing Fev, Roughhead, Gumby or someone of like. And you know this is true b/c to secure Judd this kind of 3-way trade will need to happen.
forgive me if i'm wrong, but didn't the dogs just delist a very powerful pick 5 in Tim Walsh??
People seem to over estimate just what worth draft picks are, the Dogs window is open you have some older players on the edge of retirement why wouldn't you want a star forward who could win you a flag for a draft number that has no name to it yet??
And believe me when I say this, If you think you'd get a number 2 pick from a superdraft for a number 5 pick in a weak draft 12 months after he was drafted you have no clue my friend.
forgive me if i'm wrong, but didn't the dogs just delist a very powerful pick 5 in Tim Walsh??
People seem to over estimate just what worth draft picks are, the Dogs window is open you have some older players on the edge of retirement why wouldn't you want a star forward who could win you a flag for a draft number that has no name to it yet??
And believe me when I say this, If you think you'd get a number 2 pick from a superdraft for a number 5 pick in a weak draft 12 months after he was drafted you have no clue my friend.
This is my point.
So why not trade for Pick 5 and send it to West Coast along with your 1st rd pick to secure Judd?
This way you will not be taking a risk in a weak draft and you will secure Judd.
forgive me if i'm wrong, but didn't the dogs just delist a very powerful pick 5 in Tim Walsh??
It was pick 4 :o:mad:
The Hawk 7
18 Sep 2007, 16:31
how about we give the doggies johns, kepler and bolton for pick 5.
shame on you for even thinking of trading lucas! :thumbsd::thumbsd::thumbsd::mad:
If you're prepared to give up those 3 guys, we'll keep pick 5 and give you Street, Power and McDougall. :thumbsd:
that would a be a massive deal!!!!!!
This is my point.
So why not trade for Pick 5 and send it to West Coast along with your 1st rd pick to secure Judd?
This way you will not be taking a risk in a weak draft and you will secure Judd.
the top 10 in this year's draft will as good as last year's top 10. it's just that the depth of this year's draft isn't as good.
Gibbs < Cotchin
Gumby > Henderson
Hansen < Rance
Berger = Kruezer
Boak = Masten
Thorpe = McEvoy
Selwood > Palmer
Armitage < Ebert
Not the order of this year's draft, just a comparison
This trade is about 5 years too late. The Bombers wouldn't be stupid enough to suggest it and the Bulldogs wouldn't be stupid enough to take it. Anyone suggesting otherwise is delusional.
i think the proposed deal would include us adding a sweetner
Daytripper
18 Sep 2007, 17:26
the top 10 in this year's draft will as good as last year's top 10. it's just that the depth of this year's draft isn't as good.
Gibbs < Cotchin
Gumby > Henderson
Hansen < Rance
Berger = Kruezer
Boak = Masten
Thorpe = McEvoy
Selwood > Palmer
Armitage < Ebert
Not the order of this year's draft, just a comparison
Is this Big Footy conventional wisdom or you know this for sure ?
akingofkong
18 Sep 2007, 17:36
Pick 5 to us may mean landing Fev, Roughhead, Gumby or someone of like. And you know this is true b/c to secure Judd this kind of 3-way trade will need to happen.
Err, How about Buckey's chance and NO chance on the doggies getting Gumby(nor for that matter the eagles). A required player that ain't going nowhere...... :mad:
Err, How about Buckey's chance and NO chance on the doggies getting Gumby(nor for that matter the eagles). A required player that ain't going nowhere...... :mad:
im not saying we will get gumby, im just trying to point out the team that eventually attains Judd will probably need to trade a good player to complete the trade.
BomberGal
18 Sep 2007, 21:06
No. Scott Lucas has plenty left to give.
akingofkong
18 Sep 2007, 21:59
im not saying we will get gumby, im just trying to point out the team that eventually attains Judd will probably need to trade a good player to complete the trade.
The way I look at it, if the only way the essendon footy club will get chris judd is by us handing over Gumbleton to the eagles, well- too bad we won't get Judd, I am not prepared to trade away our kids for a topgun. :mad:
OneEyedLion
19 Sep 2007, 11:24
Seriously guys... the doggies would not give up pick 5 for Lucas.
Eade said he wouldn't give up pick 5 for Fev so there's no chance for Lucas.
Umm yeah... But Lucas is better than Fev???
I'd do it if it meant getting Judd.
Pick 5, 6 and Johnson (lets face it, he's had his day)....
For
Judd and someone mid caliber...
Is this Big Footy conventional wisdom or you know this for sure ?
i have seen quite a bit of junior footy this year so i am quite confident those predictions are pretty spot on
Daytripper
20 Sep 2007, 15:09
i have seen quite a bit of junior footy this year so i am quite confident those predictions are pretty spot on
Palmer, Ebert, Masten, Rance ???
Must get pretty expensive travelling all around the country to watch junior footy.
bomberstomake8
20 Sep 2007, 15:25
Tell your story walking pal.
If Essendon come to us requesting pick 5 for Lucas we would laugh in their faces. Why would we want a 30 year old that has 2 maybe 3 years left in him?
Pick 5 is a powerful pick- the club that wants Judd will probably need this pick to secure the deal. In that case do you really think we will give it up that easy?
Pick 5 to us may mean landing Fev, Roughhead, Gumby or someone of like. And you know this is true b/c to secure Judd this kind of 3-way trade will need to happen.
your full of it. you really think gumbelton is worth pick 5 in this years draft, if gumby was in this years draft he would easily be number one, he was number 2 in the super draft for christ sake..
lucas with agood midfeild and not having to play second fiddle to lloyd could bag near one hundred goals in a season imo... if you think your club has the potential to be a threat on the flag getting lucas would be your best bet..
you wont get anything decent in terms of forwards for a pick 5.. eagles want forwards to remember they would just to a trade with the eagles instead of going through you
acursi08
21 Sep 2007, 11:27
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Originally Posted by Astro_ http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8821310#post8821310)
If Essendon come to us requesting pick 5 for Lucas we would laugh in their faces. Why would we want a 30 year old that has 2 maybe 3 years left in him?
Hello, is anybody home. You guys need Lucas because he is proven to kick goals. Oh and ok maybe your argument is that you’re trying to get fev. Yeh ok whatever. Do u think that Carlton are going to get rid of fev for another top 5 draft pick? Why would you take the risk of getting rid of a proven goal kicker for a bloke in the draft that you wouldn’t have seen play much footy. Lucas would give you a chance to be a serious threat of making the top 4. But its not like I’m saying I want to get rid of Lucas. We r the 1s that should be laughing at that deal, not the bulldogs. Lucas is not 4 sale.:mad:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Astro_ http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8821310#post8821310)
If Essendon come to us requesting pick 5 for Lucas we would laugh in their faces. Why would we want a 30 year old that has 2 maybe 3 years left in him?
Hello, is anybody home. You guys need Lucas because he is proven to kick goals. Oh and ok maybe your argument is that you’re trying to get fev. Yeh ok whatever. Do u think that Carlton are going to get rid of fev for another top 5 draft pick? Why would you take the risk of getting rid of a proven goal kicker for a bloke in the draft that you wouldn’t have seen play much footy. Lucas would give you a chance to be a serious threat of making the top 4. But its not like I’m saying I want to get rid of Lucas. We r the 1s that should be laughing at that deal, not the bulldogs. Lucas is not 4 sale.:mad:
Well, in fairness, no one on the Dogs board has even raised this issue. Lucas was never in our sights, mainly due to his age. Sure great player, sure would fill a gap in our forward line, but we would never give up our pick 5 for him and you'd never give him up for pick 5 (apparently) so thread closed:)