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BRRROWWNNNN
18 Sep 2007, 15:17
With Hird now gone and with Fletcher, Michael, Lucas and LLoyd all past their prime, who will become the new stars of Essendon, NOT the capable foot soldiers, but the bonifide superstars as these all were/are?
Bombers1234
18 Sep 2007, 15:19
C Judd
Why would a Lions supporter care?
Ryder, Gumby, Dempsey, Stanton, Hislop and Jetta all have star potential
Ryder, Gumby, Dempsey, Stanton, Hislop and Jetta all have star potential
I dont think Stanton has star potential. He will be a good player but he wont be a super star midfielder.
Not a Wellman
18 Sep 2007, 17:51
Winderlich next year provided he is injury free and same goes with Laycock. Just watch them blossom into genuine stars.
Nash, Neagle, Ryder and Dempsey.
donsman4eva
18 Sep 2007, 21:07
Reimers, Dempsey, Gumby, Houli, Nash.
BomberAce7
18 Sep 2007, 21:14
With Hird now gone and with Fletcher, Michael, Lucas and LLoyd all past their prime, who will become the new stars of Essendon, NOT the capable foot soldiers, but the bonifide superstars as these all were/are?
I wouldnt say Scotty is past his prime. His last 2 seasons have been the best of his career & very unlucky not to be in last years & this years All_Australian team IMO!
windyhill
18 Sep 2007, 22:29
Licha has shown signs.
Jonesy1987
19 Sep 2007, 00:26
Monfries will be a essendon champion im predicting captian in years to come
Longy413
19 Sep 2007, 10:18
Fletcher just made AA for the second time in his career.
Lucas extremely stiff to miss out.
How are they past their prime?
I would have thought they were in their prime.
BRRROWWNNNN
19 Sep 2007, 16:14
Fletcher just made AA for the second time in his career.
Lucas extremely stiff to miss out.
How are they past their prime?
I would have thought they were in their prime.
OK, you think that then ;)
Longy413
19 Sep 2007, 17:02
OK, you think that then ;)
Would you not have to be in career best form to make the AA side?
hayesy_27
19 Sep 2007, 22:50
the thread is coming from a brisbane fan ha ha. How could u make a judgement on our team. You only see the club from the outside. Fletcher has a new lease on life with Mal back there. Lucas last 2 years have been fantastic. Lloyd is on the mend from a very bad hamstring injury remember and only just missed winning the coleman by 10 or so goals. Past there prime.... yeah right.
As for our future stars we have plenty of them. AFL is the way it is now and anyone can become a star take players like Dean Cox, Nathan Thompson, Brad Ottens, Jarryd Roughead, and like who took a few years to hit there straps but are now dominate figures in the league.
That said Winderlich, Ryder, Houli, Monfries, Stanton and especially Davey are the future stars of our team.
BRRROWWNNNN
20 Sep 2007, 00:28
the thread is coming from a brisbane fan ha ha. How could u make a judgement on our team. You only see the club from the outside. Fletcher has a new lease on life with Mal back there. Lucas last 2 years have been fantastic. Lloyd is on the mend from a very bad hamstring injury remember and only just missed winning the coleman by 10 or so goals. Past there prime.... yeah right.
As for our future stars we have plenty of them. AFL is the way it is now and anyone can become a star take players like Dean Cox, Nathan Thompson, Brad Ottens, Jarryd Roughead, and like who took a few years to hit there straps but are now dominate figures in the league.
That said Winderlich, Ryder, Houli, Monfries, Stanton and especially Davey are the future stars of our team.
Superstar midfielders as in Cousins, Black, Kerr, Bartel, Burgoyne, Hodge etc........you are delusional if you think Winderlich, Houli or Monfries will end up in that elite bracket :eek: Stanton can though :thumbsu:
Just because they play for your team doesn't mean that they will become superstars :thumbsd:
Jonesy1987
20 Sep 2007, 07:16
Superstar midfielders as in Cousins, Black, Kerr, Bartel, Burgoyne, Hodge etc........you are delusional if you think Winderlich, Houli or Monfries will end up in that elite bracket :eek: Stanton can though :thumbsu:
Just because they play for your team doesn't mean that they will become superstars :thumbsd:
you are ignorant to think only midfielders that rack up 30+ touches a game are the only superstars, you have no idea of their individual roles and therefore should not comment on things above ur analyitical comprehension, if you watched any melbourne football news you would know that winderlich was captioned as one of the years biggest improvers (showing off his class on many different occasions), and monfries on the hand was averaging 20 touches 2 goals a game for the last 6 weeks of the season.
BRRROWWNNNN
20 Sep 2007, 09:58
you are ignorant to think only midfielders that rack up 30+ touches a game are the only superstars, you have no idea of their individual roles and therefore should not comment on things above ur analyitical comprehension, if you watched any melbourne football news you would know that winderlich was captioned as one of the years biggest improvers (showing off his class on many different occasions), and monfries on the hand was averaging 20 touches 2 goals a game for the last 6 weeks of the season.
Nice contradiction there buddy with your # of disposals thoughts :D
Get over the fact that you are an Essendon supporter and face the reality that 15 touches from a Hodge or Kerr is worth more than 35 of a Winderlich or Monfries :rolleyes:
I'm from Melbourne and saw Monfries last three games with bomber mates of mine....I didn't see superstar quality......Cheynee Stiller averaged 23 disposals this season and hardly coughed up the ball once, but I don't rate him a future superstar :rolleyes:
Seems Essendon supporters struggle with the FACT that not all kids become superstars no matter how much we want them to :eek:
Longy413
20 Sep 2007, 10:47
Seems Essendon supporters struggle with the FACT that not all kids become superstars no matter how much we want them to :eek:
You seem to struggle with the fact that if a bloke makes the AA side his career isn't in decline.
BRRROWWNNNN
20 Sep 2007, 10:57
You seem to struggle with the fact that if a bloke makes the AA side his career isn't in decline.
Fletcher can still be past his best and make the AA team :thumbsd: McLeod has been past his absolute best for 3 years yet he is the AA captain :thumbsu:
I never wrote anything about Fletcher not deserving an AA spot nor did I say that he is over the hill, just that he is over 30 and his best is probably past him.
If you want to respond after a stupid post to me, don't do it with another one :thumbsd:
So he's "probably" past his best because he is over 30? People read into age way too much.
Eric Cantona was only just reaching his peak at age 30, same with Michael Jordan.
Longy413
20 Sep 2007, 11:31
Fletcher can still be past his best and make the AA team :thumbsd: McLeod has been past his absolute best for 3 years yet he is the AA captain :thumbsu:
I never wrote anything about Fletcher not deserving an AA spot nor did I say that he is over the hill, just that he is over 30 and his best is probably past him.
If you want to respond after a stupid post to me, don't do it with another one :thumbsd:
He had the second best season of his 15 year career.
Take out 2000 and Fletcher was at his career best.
His form hasn't tappered at all. He's at his best.
Not slightly below his best but still good. He's at his best.
BRRROWWNNNN
20 Sep 2007, 11:39
So he's "probably" past his best because he is over 30? People read into age way too much.
Eric Cantona was only just reaching his peak at age 30, same with Michael Jordan.
History suggests that at age 32, a footy player will not improve....if you want to argue this point with an example of one of the greatest sportsmen of all time in a different sport then go right ahead :D
History suggests that at age 32, a footy player will not improve....if you want to argue this point with an example of one of the greatest sportsmen of all time in a different sport then go right ahead :D
I'm sure they won't improve, doesn't mean they're not in their prime.
It doesn't matter who I use as an example, sportsman can still play at their best after the age of 30, whether they're greats or not, they just do it at a higher level.
BRRROWWNNNN
20 Sep 2007, 11:55
I'm sure they won't improve, doesn't mean they're not in their prime.
It doesn't matter who I use as an example, sportsman can still play at their best after the age of 30, whether they're greats or not, they just do it at a higher level.
Personally I think Fletcher's best year was 2001 even though he hasn't been recognised by AA selectors until recently.
Personally I think Fletcher's best year was 2001 even though he hasn't been recognised by AA selectors until recently.
He was great that year, he has been just as good or extremely close to it that last two years.
Scotty Lucas is only now reaching his peak.
Matthew Lloyd is closing on 30 but still has the attributes and ability to become an AA forward again.
Bomber57
20 Sep 2007, 18:02
History suggests that at age 32, a footy player will not improve....if you want to argue this point with an example of one of the greatest sportsmen of all time in a different sport then go right ahead :D
Easy arguement for you to make, as not to many players start playing at the age of 32.
What is wrong with Robert Harvey, and then there was Ian Stewart, and of course Bob Skilton and a lot more if you take the time to look them up, 32 is not over the hill, and players can improve with age, the old saying goes "you cannot buy experience it comes with age." and I forgot add Michael Tuck.