The Rats are jumping from the sinking ship

[HoTPowER]

First it was Meesen and Hudson who expressed dissatisfaction with the goings on at West lakes and now it is Mattner who has said enough is enough.

And he wants to go to Sydney, where they play a style of footy that, perish the thought, can even be considered to be worse than the Camries efforts!

On the Adelaide Now website people are calling for Reid's head, Jenny's head and for Burton to be traded instead.

Hahahahaha.

Can't wait to see the NEW & IMPROVED CAMRY CROWS lineup in the new year. Reckon they will get some quality replacements. :D

Neil 'Elliot Ness' Craig may need to move his family to safer ground to escape the fallout when all the nasty little 'Al Capones' come banging down his door looking for answers, options and solutions to their new & improved mediocrity, which is about to be unleashed at a venue near you in 2008.

Enjoy your new recruits cows, I know we will:D

CROWS: EMBRACING MEDIOCRITY FOR A DECADE.

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[God_King]

Well they do have a dangerous looking forward line next year..............................HAHAAHAHAHAHAHA:D

[mb2326]

First it was Meesen and Hudson who expressed dissatisfaction with the goings on at West lakes and now it is Mattner who has said enough is enough.

And he wants to go to Sydney, where they play a style of footy that, perish the thought, can even be considered to be worse than the Camries efforts!

On the Adelaide Now website people are calling for Reid's head, Jenny's head and for Burton to be traded instead.

Hahahahaha.

Can't wait to see the NEW & IMPROVED CAMRY CROWS lineup in the new year. Reckon they will get some quality replacements. :D

Neil 'Elliot Ness' Craig may need to move his family to safer ground to escape the fallout when all the nasty little 'Al Capones' come banging down his door looking for answers, options and solutions to their new & improved mediocrity, which is about to be unleashed at a venue near you in 2008.

Enjoy your new recruits cows, I know we will:D

CROWS: EMBRACING MEDIOCRITY FOR A DECADE.

There have been 119 complaints on the Adelaide now website.


Good to see one of the Port downhill skiers back after the GF. By the way HP who expereinced more "pain" this year, the Crows or Port?

[wishiwas]

Can't wait to see the NEW & IMPROVED CAMRY CROWS lineup in the new year. Reckon they will get some quality replacements. :D



Well Einstein,
which is? New or Improved. It cant be both. If it is new, how can you improve it if it hasnt been used yet!! If it is improved, then it has been used already, and cant be new.

Your a confusing little boy arent you:confused::o

[SaintKiller]

Hasnt this been done b4?

[Aristotel]

Well they do have a dangerous looking forward line next year..............................HAHAAHAHAHAHAHA:D

You realise the Crow's went the entire season without Trent Hentschel and Biglands?

I wonder how the Power would have fared this year without Ebert and Lade........?

At least the rest of us wouldn't have had to sit through that discraceful Grand Final effort....because the Power wouldn't have even made the finals.

I dislike the Crow's as much as the next person....I just dislike delusional people more.

[Nick85]

CROWS: EMBRACING MEDIOCRITY FOR A DECADE.

We have just as many premierships as you in the past 10 seasons. Add to that the fact that we are not known as the worst Grand Final side ever and our 10 years looks better than yours.

This type of thread will be so great to bring up when a demoralised port fail to do anything next year.

[God_King]

You realise the Crow's went the entire season without Trent Hentschel and Biglands?

I wonder how the Power would have fared this year without Ebert and Lade........?

At least the rest of us wouldn't have had to sit through that discraceful Grand Final effort....because the Power wouldn't have even made the finals.

I dislike the Crow's as much as the next person....I just dislike delusional people more.

We won the 2004 premiership without Primus (at the time the #1 ruckmen in the comp) and our best midfielder in Josh Francou.
If they are relying on these two players to come back and save the day than it will be a good laugh:thumbsu:

Ps I understand i was being delusional when i said the Crows will have a dangerous forward line, maybe you missed the way i was being sarcastic champ:o

[Angry Dragon]

I thought this was about the Poower's annual coaching exodus.

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[MeeKrob]

[quote=Aristotel;9128278]You realise the Crow's went the entire season without Trent Hentschel and Biglands?

I wonder how the Power would have fared this year without Ebert and Lade........?
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Sorry, in case I'm mistaken, are you comparing Lade (probably second best ruckman in competition) and Ebert (best small forward in competition) To a mediocre ruckman and Trent Potential

[jmorg1]

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[birdmanptr]

I would not call Symes a rat but port power is already sunk

Do we get Troy to

[birdmanptr]

[quote=Aristotel;9128278]You realise the Crow's went the entire season without Trent Hentschel and Biglands?

I wonder how the Power would have fared this year without Ebert and Lade........?
quote]

Sorry, in case I'm mistaken, are you comparing Lade (probably second best ruckman in competition) and Ebert (best small forward in competition) To a mediocre ruckman and Trent Potential

Only in your mind

[FlyingCrow]

Damon White and Symes are leaving too buddy...

[FlyingCrow]

I just love When Port people think they are going to be in GFs for the next ten years...Crystal Balling will only set you up for embarassment.

Facts are Ports young stars are very average. None of their KPP are young. Pettigrew and Chaplain are not a reliable backline Hoff has been found out and will struggle next year. Their rucks are the oldest in the land and their captain has one knee...Take the Cornes boys out of the team and the Power Switch gets turned off..

What Port do have is plenty of fast running weak bodied players that play with no heart..Guess what they got found out on GF day. THere is not a tough midfielder in there. All are receivers that wait for someone to do something or a spillage from the opposition. Works well against crap opposition but the stronger teams find them out...ie Geelong.

They had a lucky year this year....That wont happen again.

[HoTPowER]

There have been 119 complaints on the Adelaide now website.


Good to see one of the Port downhill skiers back after the GF. By the way HP who expereinced more "pain" this year, the Crows or Port?


The crows experienced more pain. The analogy i will use to demonstrate this is if you put a frog into boiling water, it jumps out. (This is like the Power in the GF.) However, if you put a frog into cold water and heat up the water, the frog will not jump out and will die. (This is like the crows.) Because the crows are acclimatising to their environment of mediocrity they will refuse to act on the situation until it gets worse, much worse, which will lead to quite possibly a Richmond-esque type dynasty in the not-to-distant future. (We hope)

Hope this clears up the question of who experienced more pain this year.

HP

[HoTPowER]

Well Einstein,
which is? New or Improved. It cant be both. If it is new, how can you improve it if it hasnt been used yet!! If it is improved, then it has been used already, and cant be new.

Your a confusing little boy arent you:confused::o


New is a reference to the new players you will get . (pretty self-explanatory that one.):o

Improved is what you will be hoping for, but we all know what the eventual outcome of that will be.:rolleyes:

Hope that clears up that most pressing issue of yours.

[CrowdedHouse]

The rats are jumping from the sinking ship...

They're just clearing the decks cause someone dropped their guts after having a pie floater :thumbsu:

[wishiwas]

New is a reference to the new players you will get . (pretty self-explanatory that one.):o

Improved is what you will be hoping for, but we all know what the eventual outcome of that will be.:rolleyes:

Hope that clears up that most pressing issue of yours.

Oh, so "improved" is something that hasnt happened yet.

Thanks for clearing that up.:thumbsu::o:rolleyes:

[FlyingCrow]

The crows experienced more pain. The analogy i will use to demonstrate this is if you put a frog into boiling water, it jumps out. (This is like the Power in the GF.) However, if you put a frog into cold water and heat up the water, the frog will not jump out and will die. (This is like the crows.) Because the crows are acclimatising to their environment of mediocrity they will refuse to act on the situation until it gets worse, much worse, which will lead to quite possibly a Richmond-esque type dynasty in the not-to-distant future. (We hope)

Hope this clears up the question of who experienced more pain this year.

HP
yep we had a bad year...AND STILL MADE THE 8. That alone is a testament to how good our players are.

I would take a Rutten Thompson and Van Berlo ahead of any Player Port has under 25. At least they play with pride and hard at the ball as apposed to the soft overrated young Port frontrunners.

[Aristotel]

The crows experienced more pain. The analogy i will use to demonstrate this is if you put a frog into boiling water, it jumps out. (This is like the Power in the GF.) However, if you put a frog into cold water and heat up the water, the frog will not jump out and will die. (This is like the crows.) Because the crows are acclimatising to their environment of mediocrity they will refuse to act on the situation until it gets worse, much worse, which will lead to quite possibly a Richmond-esque type dynasty in the not-to-distant future. (We hope)

Hope this clears up the question of who experienced more pain this year.

HP

What an absolute load of crap...!!

Port were the team that managed to get their noses infront of a very congested group of clubs between positions 2-12. Beating Hawthorn in Tassie with seconds remaining on the clock (which says more about the Hawks than it does about Port) and then doing exactly the same to a Selwood/Ling/Bartel-less Geelong a week later, elevated Port from 6th or 7th to 2nd.....Gifting the Power a dream-run though the finals, and ultimately a Grand Final birth that they never deserved.

[Handyandy]

yep we had a bad year...AND STILL MADE THE 8. That alone is a testament to how good our players are.

I would take a Rutten Thompson and Van Berlo ahead of any Player Port has under 25. At least they play with pride and hard at the ball as apposed to the soft overrated young Port frontrunners.

No it doesnt, it just highlights how average the competition was this season (with the exception of geelong).

Every season an average team who has had an ordinary year slips into the eight (eg port in 2005) and it only serves to underline how many rubbish clubs there are in the afl.

The point of this thread is to discuss the obvious player dissatisfaction at the crows. One player (mcleod I think) was quoted in the paper as saying "this is not a fun place to be at the moment" referring to the atmosphere at crowland.

The only players wanting to leave port are not getting a regular game so they want to get more opportunities which is perfectly understandable. However mattner and hudson are regulars which begs the question of whats wrong with the crows.

[Handyandy]

What an absolute load of crap...!!

Port were the team that managed to get their noses infront of a very congested group of clubs between positions 2-12. Beating Hawthorn in Tassie with seconds remaining on the clock (which says more about the Hawks than it does about Port) and then doing exactly the same to a Selwood/Ling/Bartel-less Geelong a week later, elevated Port from 6th or 7th to 2nd.....Gifting the Power a dream-run though the finals, and ultimately a Grand Final birth that they never deserved.

I agree with the first part of your rant.
However who would have deserved it more?
Your mob, who couldnt even win enough games to make the top four.

[Aristotel]

I agree with the first part of your rant.
However who would have deserved it more?
Your mob, who couldnt even win enough games to make the top four.


Frankly....yes.

[FlyingCrow]

No it doesnt, it just highlights how average the competition was this season (with the exception of geelong).

Every season an average team who has had an ordinary year slips into the eight (eg port in 2005) and it only serves to underline how many rubbish clubs there are in the afl.

The point of this thread is to discuss the obvious player dissatisfaction at the crows. One player (mcleod I think) was quoted in the paper as saying "this is not a fun place to be at the moment" referring to the atmosphere at crowland.

The only players wanting to leave port are not getting a regular game so they want to get more opportunities which is perfectly understandable. However mattner and hudson are regulars which begs the question of whats wrong with the crows.
Hudson, wanted a longer Contract, doesnt agree with the Crows over 30/1 year policy

Mattner, a one dimensional player, Getting worse as the years go by. Wouldnt be in starting 22 next year. Oddly going toa team that is more defensive than us, that lacks flair and creativity.

There are the reasons. No doubt there would be some disgruntled players. Ther are some disgruntled supporters, (including myself) especially the coaching effort in the Hawthorn game. But these two leaving is not a symptom of this.

[God_King]

Hudson, wanted a longer Contract, doesnt agree with the Crows over 30/1 year policy

Mattner, a one dimensional player, Getting worse as the years go by. Wouldnt be in starting 22 next year. Oddly going toa team that is more defensive than us, that lacks flair and creativity.

There are the reasons. No doubt there would be some disgruntled players. Ther are some disgruntled supporters, especially the coaching effort in the Hawthorn game. But these two leving is not a symptom of this.

But now who will stop Buddy next year!!? HAHAHA

[FlyingCrow]

Who will stop Geelong...round 1...With Geelong 6 out of 7 run agaisnt agiant you guys a thrashing is on the Cards...

[God_King]

What Port do have is plenty of fast running weak bodied players that play with no heart..Guess what they got found out on GF day. THere is not a tough midfielder in there. All are receivers that wait for someone to do something or a spillage from the opposition. Works well against crap opposition but the stronger teams find them out...ie Geelong.



So Geelong are the only strong team in the comp?
It's funny how our game only works well against crap opposition yet we finished 2nd and made the Grand Final:o

[FlyingCrow]

we beat you twice....

Go back have an honest look at your season. You played teams that were out of form and missing players. As well as that quite a few bottom sides. Won teh close games through opposition error. Hawks cant shut game down, tried too early. Geelong, Ottens missed hadball. WCE Cousins Hammy. Also rely on two players Cornes Boys to play well to win games.


Best win of season was at the G agaisnt Colligwood. Slugged it out in tough conditions agiant Pies who were in good form.

GF is a true reflection of where Port is at. Dont get to ahead of yourselves there is jsut as much work to do at Port as there is at Adealide. Lade wont be there for next real attempt at a flag, neither will Brogan. Backline is not AFL standard. Midfield full of fleet footed lightwieghts who struggle when going gets tough. Forward line full of Players who need everything to go right to post a score.

[God_King]

we beat you twice....

Go back have an honest look at your season. You played teams that were out of form and missing players. As well as that quite a few bottom sides. Won teh close games through opposition error. Hawks cant shut game down, tried too early. Geelong, Ottens missed hadball. WCE Cousins Hammy. Also rely on two players Cornes Boys to play well to win games.


Best win of season was at the G agaisnt Colligwood. Slugged it out in tough conditions agiant Pies who were in good form.

GF is a true reflection of where Port is at. Dont get to ahead of yourselves there is jsut as much work to do at Port as there is at Adealide. Lade wont be there for next real attempt at a flag, neither will Brogan. Backline is not AFL standard. Midfield full of fleet footed lightwieghts who struggle when going gets tough. Forward line full of Players who need everything to go right to post a score.

Are you using the theory that maybe if you keep telling yourself that it will come true?
Oh yes it was luck we won enough games to finish second, it was luck we won our first final, it was luck we smashed the Roos:rolleyes:
I was quite happy with the way our year went bar the GF.
Plenty of game time for our many youngsters and plenty of new talent unveiled. :thumbsu:
Alot must have gone right this year seeing how we were the second highest scoring team
The future looks bright at Port Adelaide; can you honestly say the same about your mob?

[FlyingCrow]

A lot of blow outs to mediocre opposition.

You were also the only team in the 8 to concede 2000 points. Shows the standard of the backline.

The Crows wont be as bad next year as this year. Sounds like 2004 all over again. We were writen off then. But made a prelim in 05.



The GF however is a true indication of where Port sit.

[God_King]

A lot of blow outs to mediocre opposition.

You were also the only team in the 8 to concede 2000 points. Shows the standard of the backline.

The Crows wont be as bad next year as this year. Sounds like 2004 all over again. We were writen off then. But made a prelim in 05.



The GF however is a true indication of where Port sit.

Why will the Crows be better next year???
Is it because all your good players on the wrong side of 30 have aged another year???:o

[FlyingCrow]

Bighlands and Hentchel Back

Maric will step up and take over as a mobile Ruckman. Bighlands will be number two ruck by season end.

Continued improvement of Thommo Knights VB Reilly Porplesia Doulglas.

Backline (Rutten Johncock Stevens) is young and Bassett will be back to play floating role. Macca is ageless...

Introduction of Tippett to inject some youth and movement in Forward line. Sellar to also make debut. Hentshcel to work his way back. Porplesia to play crumbing role.

Get back to the 2005 attacking style...We did lead comp in points for as well as least amount of points against in the 8.



These are just some thoughts..There is the capability to do all these. But all this is crystalballing.

[wishiwas]

we beat you twice....

Go back have an honest look at your season. You played teams that were out of form and missing players. As well as that quite a few bottom sides. Won teh close games through opposition error. Hawks cant shut game down, tried too early. Geelong, Ottens missed hadball. WCE Cousins Hammy. Also rely on two players Cornes Boys to play well to win games.


Best win of season was at the G agaisnt Colligwood. Slugged it out in tough conditions agiant Pies who were in good form.

GF is a true reflection of where Port is at. Dont get to ahead of yourselves there is jsut as much work to do at Port as there is at Adealide. Lade wont be there for next real attempt at a flag, neither will Brogan. Backline is not AFL standard. Midfield full of fleet footed lightwieghts who struggle when going gets tough. Forward line full of Players who need everything to go right to post a score.

this is spot on FC. We (Crows) (and other supporters) have been saying this since the GF, but Port fans have kept fobbing it off.
How blind are they?
MAybe they will open their eyes next year.:rolleyes:
Port are the luckiest team to ever make the GF. And they proved it to the world as well!!!!!
I cant get over it, 119. its just amazing!!!!

[MeeKrob]

yep we had a bad year...AND STILL MADE THE 8. That alone is a testament to how good our players are.

I would take a Rutten Thompson and Van Berlo ahead of any Player Port has under 25. At least they play with pride and hard at the ball as apposed to the soft overrated young Port frontrunners.

You would take Van Berlo ahead of Kane Cornes? Are you insane?

[FlyingCrow]

Is Kane under 25??well just...24yrs 8 mths...as of today

[FlyingCrow]

Is Kane under 25??

[God_King]

I just love When Port people think they are going to be in GFs for the next ten years...Crystal Balling will only set you up for embarassment.



Bighlands and Hentchel Back

Maric will step up and take over as a mobile Ruckman. Bighlands will be number two ruck by season end.

Continued improvement of Thommo Knights VB Reilly Porplesia Doulglas.

Backline (Rutten Johncock Stevens) is young and Bassett will be back to play floating role. Macca is ageless...

Introduction of Tippett to inject some youth and movement in Forward line. Sellar to also make debut. Hentshcel to work his way back. Porplesia to play crumbing role.

Get back to the 2005 attacking style...We did lead comp in points for as well as least amount of points against in the 8.



These are just some thoughts..There is the capability to do all these. But all this is crystalballing.

:rolleyes:

So the Crows will be better because-
'You're hoping' Maric will step up and Biglands will successfully return from his injury
'The possiblitly' of improvement from a range of players
The same backline you've had for a while
New young guys who have had no impact in the SANFL
The hopefull successfull return from a knee injury from Potential
Suddenly change your game style becuase Neil Craig isn't stubborn at all:o

[FlyingCrow]

hey, who would of thought Hoff would do so well. He didnt set the world on fire in SANFL...

Most of your points are valid. But not a lot has to change for us to go forward.

I would rather look forward with some optimism than negativity.. Its not like we are Richmond

[relapse]

Well they do have a dangerous looking forward line next year..............................HAHAAHAHAHAHAHA:D

Like your forward line that only could kick 6 goals in a free flowing attacking game in superb football conditions :D

[relapse]

What an absolute load of crap...!!

Port were the team that managed to get their noses infront of a very congested group of clubs between positions 2-12. Beating Hawthorn in Tassie with seconds remaining on the clock (which says more about the Hawks than it does about Port) and then doing exactly the same to a Selwood/Ling/Bartel-less Geelong a week later, elevated Port from 6th or 7th to 2nd.....Gifting the Power a dream-run though the finals, and ultimately a Grand Final birth that they never deserved.

That is a very accurate analysis of what happened this year.

If the Ottens mark was paid in the last 10 seconds of that game like it should have been there more than likely would have been no grand final for Port this year.

[sworc36]

The crows experienced more pain. The analogy i will use to demonstrate this is if you put a frog into boiling water, it jumps out. (This is like the Power in the GF.) However, if you put a frog into cold water and heat up the water, the frog will not jump out and will die. (This is like the crows.) Because the crows are acclimatising to their environment of mediocrity they will refuse to act on the situation until it gets worse, much worse, which will lead to quite possibly a Richmond-esque type dynasty in the not-to-distant future. (We hope)

Hope this clears up the question of who experienced more pain this year.

HP

119 defeat on the world stage. Id say you did. But not only did you experience more pain you also lost respect. Everyone is laughing at you and think your team is a joke. Perhaps I can give an analogy about premature ejaculation? seems to happen a lot down your way. Going to take a loooong time to recover from such a defeat, maybe more pain to come.(we hope)

[FlyingCrow]

Any respect Port had in victoria is gone, they are a laughing stock, not just for the margin, but the "show" they put on in the biggest game of the year. Es[ecially after proclaiming how good they are at winning Premierships.

[God_King]

Any respect Port had in victoria is gone, they are a laughing stock, not just for the margin, but the "show" they put on in the biggest game of the year. Es[ecially after proclaiming how good they are at winning Premierships.
I'm sure the Crows have gained mountains of respect with all their recent finals attempts:o

[FlyingCrow]

I'm sure the Crows have gained mountains of respect with all their recent finals attempts:o
More astute football followers will realise that their has only been one team that has stopped us winning flags in 05/06....Unfortunatley WCE match up well against us and beat us regularly. And we had to play them in both Prelims. They are the only team to regularly do so.

Before you scoff at that look at your record against Us and Geelong...Its worse than ours against WCE.

[God_King]

More astute football followers will realise that their has only been one team that has stopped us winning flags in 05/06....Unfortunatley WCE match up well against us and beat us regularly. And we had to play them in both Prelims. They are the only team to regularly do so.

Before you scoff at that look at your record against Us and Geelong...Its worse than ours against WCE.
Thats fair enough.
If you play West Coast (even when 4 goals up at home during the 3rd qtr) you cant win the premiership. Ok:D
You could have dodged West Coast if you beat St.Kilda, what was the reason that night?

[FlyingCrow]

Thats fair enough.
If you play West Coast (even when 4 goals up at home during the 3rd qtr) you cant win the premiership. Ok:D
You could have dodged West Coast if you beat St.Kilda, what was the reason that night?
Tis true...St Kilda game was a shocker (choke)

A Crows Sydney GF would of been Good...Considering they ahve not beaten us since Craigy took over...Even Before that...

Still I would take our recent history over being a laughing stock and having to watch my players put up that pathetic attempt.

[topjars]

Symes climbs onboard the Battleship Adelaide after leaving Porks canoe:D

[Handyandy]

we beat you twice....

Go back have an honest look at your season. You played teams that were out of form and missing players. As well as that quite a few bottom sides. Won teh close games through opposition error. Hawks cant shut game down, tried too early. Geelong, Ottens missed hadball. WCE Cousins Hammy. Also rely on two players Cornes Boys to play well to win games.


Best win of season was at the G agaisnt Colligwood. Slugged it out in tough conditions agiant Pies who were in good form.

GF is a true reflection of where Port is at. Dont get to ahead of yourselves there is jsut as much work to do at Port as there is at Adealide. Lade wont be there for next real attempt at a flag, neither will Brogan. Backline is not AFL standard. Midfield full of fleet footed lightwieghts who struggle when going gets tough. Forward line full of Players who need everything to go right to post a score.


Probably agree with you to a certain extent. Entering 2007 most reasonable port supporters were aware of the obvious structural weaknesses of the team (ie defence is v inexperienced and unsettled, we probably lack a tough inside midfielder, and a quality kpp without treadrea firing). We do have a fair few fast flashy players who can go missing in tough games also.

But to say it was simply luck to make the GF is laughable. Every team gets good luck and bad, difference is port were good enough to take advantage of their opportunitites presented whilst other teams werent.

[choco123]

I'm sure the Crows have gained mountains of respect with all their recent finals attempts:o

port supporters just don't get it. u lost by not 1, not 19, not 100 but 119 points!! this is the Worst loss ever in the Grand Final in history. even if crows choked in 05 and 06, power were completely humiliated. at the moment, they oustrip even fremantle as the laughing stock of the AFL