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Bartram_Class
10 Oct 2007, 22:34
Lots of talk he will be coming as part of the TJ deal, along with Pick 14.

What do we think of him as a player?

Still relatively young, plenty of pace and would be a perfect fit for our HBF, perhaps releasing Bell for a run in the midfield.

KTLK
10 Oct 2007, 22:40
Lots of talk he will be coming as part of the TJ deal, along with Pick 14.

What do we think of him as a player?

Still relatively young, plenty of pace and would be a perfect fit for our HBF, perhaps releasing Bell for a run in the midfield.

Rhyce Shaw is 26 now and will be 27 next year. Cannt fit into Collingwood's best 22.

It would be nice to have:

Nathan Brown & Pick 14 to Melbourne
Johnstone to Brisbane
Cameron Wood to Collingwood

Then we can ignore Rance and will solve our FB problem. Then trade Carroll for something.

Ricky_15
10 Oct 2007, 22:50
i would b stoked with that

r.shaw would be a good fit with us and pick 14 would be a steal aswell. ouryouth would be amazing with 4,14,21

melbournemartin
10 Oct 2007, 23:00
I'm sorry KTLK but there is no way that Johnstone is anywhere near worth Brown and 14. Take Brown out of the equation and it'd probably be fair. Take pick 14 out of the equation and I'd take the deal because Brown looks like a gun. Collingwood wouldn't give him up for Wood though. 14 + Shaw looks like a more likely trade which is basically just 14 + a couple of games from Shaw.

master bate
10 Oct 2007, 23:12
I see it as having Shaw on our list instead of Chris Johnson or Warnock. The guy can play and would contribute to the team or put pressure on guys in the team. But it doesn't sit well with our plans to build a team around the 22 year olds to get Shaw unless bailey thinks he can really play.

melbournemartin
10 Oct 2007, 23:18
At least Johnson basically fits that age. Maybe we could get Stanley or Cox or someone else young? Heck I'd even take Toovey :p

KTLK
10 Oct 2007, 23:24
I'm sorry KTLK but there is no way that Johnstone is anywhere near worth Brown and 14. Take Brown out of the equation and it'd probably be fair. Take pick 14 out of the equation and I'd take the deal because Brown looks like a gun. Collingwood wouldn't give him up for Wood though. 14 + Shaw looks like a more likely trade which is basically just 14 + a couple of games from Shaw.

Thats ok MM.

I was just making comment as I would like this to happen as I know it wont. Should be fine with Shaw & 14. However, someone in our board mentioned a fair point. The point is why not negotiate with Brisbane's Pick 8 for Johnstone & Miller?

Do you think this deal is fair or 14 or Shaw is better?

Besides TJ, great opportunity to send Miller back QLD.

Thanks MM

GETSOMENUTS
10 Oct 2007, 23:24
Guys sorry for intruding on your thread but getting a first round pick and a player is awesome for losing TJ IMO. Rhyce is an outside player (read soft as butter) but has pace to burn and breaks lines. His disposal is getting better and might be just the fit for you guys.

dutchy12
10 Oct 2007, 23:24
Lol guys N Brown for Johnstone alone is rediculous.

Big Aus
10 Oct 2007, 23:31
Rhys Shaw don't waste our time...we've got enough outside players Paul Wheatley is a better quarterback...more intelligent footballer

Shaw's a downhill skier...only goes well when he has momentum on his side...if you know what I mean.

melbournemartin
10 Oct 2007, 23:34
Lol guys N Brown for Johnstone alone is rediculous.

Yeah, I know :(

I won't bother spending too much time trying to think up a trade as I know it won't happen but I'd easily send pick 21 Collingwood's way for starters of we got Brown.

goal sneak
11 Oct 2007, 09:10
KTLK your trades have to be the most unrealistic i have ever seen. Johnstone for Brown and 14? CJ for a first rounder? We would never get a trade done if you were in charge.

dizwah
11 Oct 2007, 10:10
What has everbody gone Ken Bruce, bloody mad!!!!! Ryce Shaw is a hack. What are you even writting about him for????? If I had to choose between Ryce Shaw and whoppie cushion I am choosing the later!! At least we would get more value out of the whoppie cushion.........Just cause he has a famous sirname and his bro is a gunn =, please please do not be mistaken, speak to any other collingwood supporter and they will tell you the truth. He is done and dusted. Lets delete this post please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

eliasd82
11 Oct 2007, 10:25
We don't need another 27 year old Half Back receiver... we got enough.

Also we don't want to give Bell a run in the midfield leave in down back where he belongs.

If we can get Johnstone for Brisbanes Pick 8, i would be rapt.

Doesn't looks like Miller is leaving, so you can leave him out of the equation.

Collingwood is giving up Pick 14 and a player for wood and Brisbane is on trading these onto us, I would rather the player be Shannon Cox.

CowboyFromHell
11 Oct 2007, 10:35
Don't know if anyone posted this but I don't think Shaw is part of OUR deal - he is only going to Brisbane as part of the Wood deal. He won't be on traded to us.

eliasd82
11 Oct 2007, 10:46
yeah i just read that too. Dees only get pick 14.
Surely we can be pricks and demand pick 8 off em???

Number32
11 Oct 2007, 10:49
brisbane get r.shaw and johnstone for wood hahaha atm they are laughing, wood is still unproven, i think we should try and get another pick or player in this deal! nothing special but just a sweatner

CowboyFromHell
11 Oct 2007, 11:04
yeah i just read that too. Dees only get pick 14.
Surely we can be pricks and demand pick 8 off em???

Pick 14 and Brennan for TJ and Miller.

master bate
11 Oct 2007, 11:12
Pick 14 and Brennan for TJ and Miller.
Think thats a bit too much. But what are everyones thoughts on Brennan, he looks up for sale for a high second round pick. I wouldn't touch him because it wouldn't make any sense trading TJ then picking up Brennan.

CowboyFromHell
11 Oct 2007, 11:16
Think thats a bit too much. But what are everyones thoughts on Brennan, he looks up for sale for a high second round pick. I wouldn't touch him because it wouldn't make any sense trading TJ then picking up Brennan.

To be honest I wouldn't really want Brennan. He is a rather handy player but too inconsistent and, let's face it, we have enough of those around already.

Flashhh
11 Oct 2007, 15:20
...please DO NOT GET RHYCE SHAW!!!

Rhyce Shaw is crap... 'oh he is fast he can break lines'. yeah thats all well and good but he can't kick and can't get a game at Collingwood. He is a 2nds player for them so why would we want to get him? how are we supposed to win a premiership when we pick up players like Rhyce Shaw???

Flashhh
11 Oct 2007, 16:04
hip hip hooray.... R.Shaw to Brisbane not Melbourne. Has anyone Brisbane's pick 8 for TJ and Miller? It would mean Brisbane still have pick 14 in the first round and get Travis who is worth probly pick 10 and Miller who clubs seem interested in ...if not then maybe St.Kilda's pick 9 for Trav, Sydney's pick 11?

saj_21
11 Oct 2007, 17:21
hip hip hooray.... R.Shaw to Brisbane not Melbourne. Has anyone Brisbane's pick 8 for TJ and Miller? It would mean Brisbane still have pick 14 in the first round and get Travis who is worth probly pick 10 and Miller who clubs seem interested in ...if not then maybe St.Kilda's pick 9 for Trav, Sydney's pick 11?

Is this true or just rumour? I wud b ok if we traded johno and got pick 8 not so happy if we only got 14. And nethin we can get for miller wud b fine

Flashhh
11 Oct 2007, 17:31
Is this true or just rumour? I wud b ok if we traded johno and got pick 8 not so happy if we only got 14. And nethin we can get for miller wud b fine
...not done yet but very strong rumour. But from what I can gather if TJ agrees to the trade then it will be......

R. Shaw + Pick #14 ---> Brisbane
C. Wood + (2nd/3rd Rounder) ---> Collingwood
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T.Johnstone ---> Brisbane
Pick 14 ---> Melbourne

If you ask me Collingwood are overating Cam Wood. Shaw is probably worth a 3rd rounder so its pretty much Wood for 14.

Regrgictator
11 Oct 2007, 17:45
Why are the club so hell bent on trading TJ? Can't be money. Without Bizzell, Ward, Brown, Godfrey, Pickett, etc there would be plenty around. (Were chasing Judd remember). They get Meesen. Wouldn't be costing a lot. CC says they're going to trade for draft picks. What's going on? Should be chasing guns not trading them. They've put 10 years into TJ now they want to trade him and start again.

ThatThis
11 Oct 2007, 17:50
At least Johnson basically fits that age. Maybe we could get Stanley or Cox or someone else young? Heck I'd even take Toovey :p

Please don't tell fibs. It makes baby jesus cry :(

demonfan9
11 Oct 2007, 17:51
Get something for him while he still has value.

We aren't going to win a premiership anytime soon.

melbournemartin
11 Oct 2007, 18:05
I'd love Johnstone + Miller for 8 but it seems to be Johnstone for 14.