View Full Version : Whose Is Likely To Be Poach Bait Soon?
Sherminator.
11 Oct 2007, 20:08
With Melbourne clubs trying to poach every piece of talent Brisbane has, who is next to be offered $1m to move to Melbourne?
Cousin Jed
11 Oct 2007, 20:09
I think they've listed every possible one for this year. I hope
So 1st one for next year wil be.........Stiller
Grimreepah
11 Oct 2007, 20:11
Black is about our only uncontracted player who hasn't been offered bucket loads of cash to go to Melbourne, so I'll say him.
Sherminator.
11 Oct 2007, 20:13
Hmm I double posted :confused: Other thread has a poll. I forgot to add 'Other' option. :cool:
The Royal Sampler
11 Oct 2007, 20:23
Poaching of this sort is inevitable when you have such a dedicated "best available" policy. Leuenberger is going to be a freaking gun, no question, but if you don't spread your talent across the park (that's not a veiled insult, although I understand it could be taken that way) there will be quality kids missing out on opportunities. I'm sure Trapper Johnstone will be a good player for you guys, and Cam Wood likewise for us. :thumbsu:
Grimreepah
11 Oct 2007, 20:26
Poaching of this sort is inevitable when you have such a dedicated "best available" policy. Leuenberger is going to be a freaking gun, no question, but if you don't spread your talent across the park (that's not a veiled insult, although I understand it could be taken that way) there will be quality kids missing out on opportunities. I'm sure Trapper Johnstone will be a good player for you guys, and Cam Wood likewise for us. :thumbsu:
It's got nothing to do with players not getting opportunities. The whole Brisbane list is up for grabs.
Brahma Bull
11 Oct 2007, 20:29
Hypothetically, who would Brisbane want from Collingwood for Proud?
TheBrownDog
11 Oct 2007, 20:31
Hypothetically, who would Brisbane want from Collingwood for Proud?
Won't be traded.
The Royal Sampler
11 Oct 2007, 20:33
It's got nothing to do with players not getting opportunities. The whole Brisbane list is up for grabs.
Agree to disagree.
Grimreepah
11 Oct 2007, 20:39
Agree to disagree.
It might apply to say Wood and Hadley, but Charman, Adcock, Drummond, Hooper, Brennan, etc. are all starting 22 players who won't be starved of opportunities.
I'll agree to disagree as well Sampler. I never got the impression last year that the 2nd ruck position was set in stone. Wood was still very much a chance to be number 2 ruck and go ahead of Mcdonald & the Berger. Nothing against the kid but if the reason he was keen to leave was lack of opportunities then i'm surprised that he only really gave himself half a year to prove he belonged in the Brisbane side.
I'll agree to disagree as well Sampler. I never got the impression last year that the 2nd ruck position was set in stone. Wood was still very much a chance to be number 2 ruck and go ahead of Mcdonald & the Berger. Nothing against the kid but if the reason he was keen to leave was lack of opportunities then i'm surprised that he only really gave himself half a year to prove he belonged in the Brisbane side.
Agree.
The Royal Sampler
11 Oct 2007, 20:48
It might apply to say Wood and Hadley, but Charman, Adcock, Drummond, Hooper, Brennan, etc. are all starting 22 players who won't be starved of opportunities.
But in what sense are Drummond, Charman, Adcock etc up for grabs? Adcock will re-sign, Charman already has, Drummond I hadn't even heard he was a target?
I don't think your players are much more targeted than anyone else's. Somewhat, sure, but the "whole Brisbane list"?
jerry springer
11 Oct 2007, 20:49
Is there any particular reason your club havent signed most of these players up during the year like our club with our youngsters?
TheBrownDog
11 Oct 2007, 20:52
Is there any particular reason your club havent signed most of these players up during the year like our club with our youngsters?
Because their managers have Melbourne clubs in their year all year.
Is there any particular reason your club havent signed most of these players up during the year like our club with our youngsters?
Not sure but it is not smart is it.
I guess we will cite salary cap pressures.
Grimreepah
11 Oct 2007, 21:06
I don't think your players are much more targeted than anyone else's. Somewhat, sure, but the "whole Brisbane list"?
It seems that most of the uncontracted players have been targeted by Melbourne clubs this year.
lionbear
11 Oct 2007, 21:21
If this is what has happened this year, next year I am going to explode next year with offers flying left right and centre with one number 16 out of contract.
Perhaps Carlton can Tank again and go after the uncontracted Brown. Imagine having Brown and Judd in the same team:D
Warwick
11 Oct 2007, 21:29
Hypothetically, who would Brisbane want from Collingwood for Proud?
HAHAHAH are you kidding?
He is one of our 4 contracted players. :rolleyes:
I'm starting to think its time the club changed their policy for signing contracts and when....too many players out of contract at this time of year makes it easy pickings for everyone else and we lose out...again! Sign 'em up mid year! This has got to stop....
Grimreepah
11 Oct 2007, 21:39
Everyone seems to think it's a simple matter of signing players earlier. Maybe if we do that it leaves us less flexibility to match offers for the remaining players. People are quick to point the finger, but it's a lot more complicated process than everyone is making out.
Dylan12
11 Oct 2007, 22:21
Guys everyone is up for grabs...Cam Wood was conracted until end of 2009...and it appears half our list is uncontracted...what would make it easier, becasue it just about happens every year, is the AFL introduce a policy that Lions players only get 1 year deals, then it is open slather on our list...at least that way we can plan for it and stay away from this crap from beginning of trade period until end of PSD and just hope for the best...that is what we are doing anyway:(
I have a good idea. What about if the AFL introduce a 10% salary cap retention allowance to fight off the raiders. Then they could give us first pick at all Queenslanders.
Fairley
11 Oct 2007, 23:07
Imagine if we had like Riewoldt and then the up and comer Tom Williams, just to name a few, that would be great...
Sherminator.
11 Oct 2007, 23:25
I have a good idea. What about if the AFL introduce a 10% salary cap retention allowance to fight off the raiders. Then they could give us first pick at all Queenslanders.
First pick of all Queenslanders would be good. But not ALL, maybe two before the draft. :thumbsu: But the AFL isn't serious about developing the Brisbane area anymore, it's about the GC now.
The Flying Belgian
12 Oct 2007, 09:17
Everyone seems to think it's a simple matter of signing players earlier. Maybe if we do that it leaves us less flexibility to match offers for the remaining players. People are quick to point the finger, but it's a lot more complicated process than everyone is making out.
Agreed.
Also think it's simplistic to say well Vossy, Scotty and Johnno are off the list now - that should free up some space. It's impossible to make a judgment on something whose ins and outs are not fully comprehensible.
lionbear
12 Oct 2007, 09:45
Agreed.
Also think it's simplistic to say well Vossy, Scotty and Johnno are off the list now - that should free up some space. It's impossible to make a judgment on something whose ins and outs are not fully comprehensible.
Agree with that. We still have some pretty big stars on our list so it is hard to know how much room we have in the cap. Hopefully though over the next year or so our TPP get to a level we we can comfortably retain our players and not have a nightmare 7 days like we have just had (Hope the nightmare ends about 2pm today).
jerry springer
12 Oct 2007, 16:35
First pick of all Queenslanders would be good. But not ALL, maybe two before the draft. :thumbsu: But the AFL isn't serious about developing the Brisbane area anymore, it's about the GC now.
you are going to be the forgotten team when this GC teams gets going unfortunatly.I think its a huge mistake personally having lived in QLD most of my adult life,I remember living in brisbane and going to all their games in the mid-ninties when the grandstands where going up and the Pie supporters nearly out-numbered the Brisbane ones,funny enough Brisbane was my 2nd team til they spanked us 2 years in a row:mad:
Qld at the present can only support one AFL side,that is a fact,I dont care how many "expats" live on the Gold Coast. People think that because the GC has 400k+ population that it can sustain a AFL team. You need crowds of at least 25k-35 week in, week out to sustain in this comp let alone thrive. GC has a massive tourist population that is seasonal that wont follow the football week-in,weekout.the AFL is making a huge mistake if it puts this team in,but all it is thinking about is more TV coverage which = advertising dollars which= more money. A Gold coast team would be a novelty for the GC region for 1-2 years then it would become a huge white elephant for the AFL for years
Cara_Cougar #16
12 Oct 2007, 19:47
i hope the melbourne clubs get their dirty little hands off jared brennan he can be a gun but he is very unpredictable :confused:
i think that if jarred brennan leaves by choice well then he can get lost. he should stick by the club unlike richard hadley. lethal's been really patient with brennan and given him many chances. he has to step up next year and be more consistent
jetta2davey
14 Oct 2007, 09:14
i think that if jarred brennan leaves by choice well then he can get lost. he should stick by the club unlike richard hadley. lethal's been really patient with brennan and given him many chances. he has to step up next year and be more consistent
O'donell and knights will bring the best out of him next year
ReluctantLion
14 Oct 2007, 09:49
O'donell and knights will bring the best out of him next year
I've got a feeling he'll sign on eventually.
But if not nothing would make me happier than to see Essendon miss out on him :cool:
Bobby Beecroft
14 Oct 2007, 09:55
O'donell and knights will bring the best out of him next year
Stop kidding yourself.
Brisbane or Richmond are Jared's choices.
jetta2davey
14 Oct 2007, 10:45
just watch mate, We are his preferred destination, and we will put a ridiculous price on his head just to ensure that he makes his way to windy hill where he can be reunited with GO'D. Why else do you think we would make him an offer of close to 1 mil and then not pursue him in trade week. We are enticing him into the PSD for a reason.
Bobby Beecroft
14 Oct 2007, 10:53
just watch mate, We are his preferred destination, and we will put a ridiculous price on his head just to ensure that he makes his way to windy hill where he can be reunited with GO'D. Why else do you think we would make him an offer of close to 1 mil and then not pursue him in trade week. We are enticing him into the PSD for a reason.
5th pick in the PSD.
Stop deluding yourself, if you think one of those other 4 will not be able to pay the same you are wrong.
Didn't pursue him in trade week because it takes 2 sides to agree to trade, & clearly one side was not listening.
You real are struggling to get your head around the whole trade/drafting concept.
ReluctantLion
14 Oct 2007, 10:58
just watch mate, We are his preferred destination, and we will put a ridiculous price on his head just to ensure that he makes his way to windy hill where he can be reunited with GO'D. Why else do you think we would make him an offer of close to 1 mil and then not pursue him in trade week. We are enticing him into the PSD for a reason.
Time will tell.
Being the greedy/shameless bastards Essendon have shown to be of late I have no doubt the scenario you put up was contemplated by them. I wouldn't be proud of that if I was you. It's shamefull for a supposedly powerfull and proud club to carry on in such a manner. Where's the honour??
But if Essendon were determined to pick Brennan up I don't believe they'd take the risk of others picking him up in the PSD. How would they know what the other clubs are able to pay??
jetta2davey
14 Oct 2007, 11:51
5th pick in the PSD.
Stop deluding yourself, if you think one of those other 4 will not be able to pay the same you are wrong.
Didn't pursue him in trade week because it takes 2 sides to agree to trade, & clearly one side was not listening.
You real are struggling to get your head around the whole trade/drafting concept.
ok whatever, just you wait and see
BlackGun1
14 Oct 2007, 11:54
Time will tell.
Being the greedy/shameless bastards Essendon have shown to be of late I have no doubt the scenario you put up was contemplated by them. I wouldn't be proud of that if I was you. It's shamefull for a supposedly powerfull and proud club to carry on in such a manner. Where's the honour??
But if Essendon were determined to pick Brennan up I don't believe they'd take the risk of others picking him up in the PSD. How would they know what the other clubs are able to pay??
My Opinion is that any club that puts up the most money, he will go there. He has a child and he wants to give his family the best, and even if Freo (not saying they would) put up a good offer he would go. Not saying my opinion is anywhere near right, im just saying. Lets just hope he somehow wants to stay in Brisbane.
Bobby Beecroft
14 Oct 2007, 12:03
ok whatever, just you wait and see
We will.
Your knowlwdge/arrogance on the subject is summed up by one question that you have asked elsewhere, being:
Will Jared Brennan be training with us prior to the PSD draft?
Perhaps we will leave it on that note, till either the PSD or he signs with Lions.
ReluctantLion
14 Oct 2007, 13:02
My Opinion is that any club that puts up the most money, he will go there.
If he goes in the PSD he will likely set a price. The first club to pick him for that price has him even if a later club like Essendon is willing to go higher they will miss out to those who have first option.
ReluctantLion
14 Oct 2007, 13:05
We will.
Your knowlwdge/arrogance on the subject is summed up by one question that you have asked elsewhere, being:
Will Jared Brennan be training with us prior to the PSD draft?
Seen that :D
Sherminator.
14 Oct 2007, 15:19
Word has it Brennan has been offered a 3 year contract with Lions, whether he accepts or not is upto him. I believe he'll accept.
jetta2davey
14 Oct 2007, 20:22
if he doesn't sign by the list lodgement deadline he will be classified as delisted, therefore he can train with the club of his choice. Granted it will be only a couple of weeks but he can do it.
and reluctant Lion- Essendon will arrange with him to put their absoloute spending limit on his head so that they have no regrets like "should we have put more money on his head".
TheBrownDog
14 Oct 2007, 20:26
if he doesn't sign by the list lodgement deadline he will be classified as delisted, therefore he can train with the club of his choice.
Wow, thanks for the scoop.
In other news. the Soviets are rumoured to have launched a satellite named Sputnik.
Wow, thanks for the scoop.
In other news. the Soviets are rumoured to have launched a satellite named Sputnik.
Pretty sure he is far too young to know what you are talking about.
But I found it amusing.:p
Pretty sure he is far too young to know what you are talking about.
But I found it amusing.:p
Wow...that brought back the memory of my dad picking me up (I was a little kid) and pointing out the satellite to me, one clear bright night up in the Mallee.....TBD, thought you wouldn't know either....I perceive you to be a lot younger than me....:thumbsu:
TheBrownDog
14 Oct 2007, 21:54
Wow...that brought back the memory of my dad picking me up (I was a little kid) and pointing out the satellite to me, one clear bright night up in the Mallee.....TBD, thought you wouldn't know either....I perceive you to be a lot younger than me....:thumbsu:
I wasn't alive when it happened, put it that way.
I remember my dad taking me out in the middle of the night to see Halley's Comet when I was about 6 though.