Is it really 3 finals series in 27 years for Tigers??

[Stephen2]

Is that right?! I wasn't into footy before 1990, are those figures true?!?

[FlyingCrow]

Year Ticketed Members Placing Total Attendances1 Average Attendance1
1992 8,158 13th 474,209 21,555
1993 9,918 14th 484,665 24,233
1994 8,229 9th 646,365 29,380
1995 14,647 3rd 1,104,219¹ 44,169¹
1996 20,308 9th 852,421 38,746
1997 24,975 13th 783,933 35,633
1998 27,092 9th 1,023,631 46,529
1999 29,047 12th 882,077 40,094
2000 26,869 9th 854,280 38,831
2001 26,501 3rd 1,173,121¹ 46,925¹
2002 27,251 14th 776,137 35,279
2003 25,101 13th 830,841 37,765
2004 27,133 16th 751,914 34,178
2005 28,029 12th 802,883 36,494
2006 29,406 9th 855,186 38,872
2007 30,044 16th 909,203 41,327

Twice in AFL era, once in the 80s.....

Read their Wiki page worth a laugh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richmond_Football_Club

[Captain Afterworld]

Pathetic club, should be demoted to the VFL immediately.

[FlyingCrow]

My thoughts exactly...

Whilst clubs like Hawthorn and North who have been successfull and want seccess are being railroaded out of Victoria.

The most successfull Vic club in the AFL era is North.

[GAMBLER]

My thoughts exactly...

Whilst clubs like Hawthorn and North who have been successfull and want seccess are being railroaded out of Victoria.

The most successfull Vic club in the AFL era is North.

Come again :confused:

The AFL was against the Tasmanian agreement...

[FlyingCrow]

Come again :confused:

The AFL was against the Tasmanian agreement...
In the media and on these forums. I know officially that Hawks are not set to go to Tassie...But tehre is pressure on them. Richmond get off scott free.

[BABYBOMBERS2007]

They really do finish 9th alot. :eek:

[Grin]

Pathetic club, should be demoted to the VFL immediately.

Highly unlikely to ever happen as Richmond are one or the BIG 4 of the AFL. And this is after 25 years of sparce success.

[SM10]

Read their Wiki page worth a laugh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richmond_Football_Club
2007 16th of 15:eek:

[thenorthernpole]

Pathetic club, should be demoted to the VFL immediately.


Not a good idea.

We all need a club to laugh at

[thenorthernpole]

Pathetic club, should be demoted to the VFL immediately.

We all need som clowns to laugh at each year.

Leave em in I say

[Gilbert_Hodge]

They really do finish 9th alot. :eek:

Haha yeah that's what i was thinking!

[JSFish]

Not a good idea.

We all need a club to laugh at

We all need som clowns to laugh at each year.

Leave em in I say
Why do you need to quote that knob flying crow twice in row and say the same thing. Are you retarded?

[JSFish]

Pathetic club, should be demoted to the VFL immediately.
There ya go flying crow, another one. That's officially the second person who's agreed with you, and you've put up your stupid idea on at least four different threads.

[Stephen2]

Twice in AFL era, once in the 80s.....

Read their Wiki page worth a laugh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richmond_Football_Club

That's amazing... I'm staggered!

Look at this quick figures I pulled up:

Club Seasons Finals Finals %
Adelaide 17 9 52.94%
Brisbane 11 7 63.64%
Carlton 111 64 57.66%

So, 3/27 is about 11%.........

I don't know what to say, I honestly didn't know that.

[JSFish]

That's amazing... I'm staggered!

Look at this quick figures I pulled up:

Club Seasons Finals Finals %
Adelaide 17 9 52.94%
Brisbane 11 7 63.64%
Carlton 111 64 57.66%

So, 3/27 is about 11%.........

I don't know what to say, I honestly didn't know that.
But you counted those 3 clubs for all their years, then just counted our worst years

[Stephen2]

But you counted those 3 clubs for all their years, then just counted our worst years
Yeah, I know... Can you post the whole Richmond stats?? I can't find them anywhere. Thanks 11%er :thumbsu:

[serenityNow]

Fitzroy played in 4 finals series in the last 27 years.........and they have been dead since 96..:eek:

[emuboy]

Did anyone find it unusual this year about how the Tiger fans just seemed to accept Richmond's dismal season?

Very few critics tipped Richmond to finish last; anywhere between 7th and 13th was typical, given the Tigers' improvement in 2005 & 2006. However, Richmond really struggled and turned in some terrible performances against Geelong, Hawthorn, Sydney & Port Adelaide. Normally when the Tigers have a bad season, or even a slump in an adequate season, some (and not all) Richmond fans scream for players, fans and officials to be sacked, and boo their team from the ground.

But this year - nothing. Not that this is a bad thing, it just seems out of character, considering the Tigers collected an unexpected wooden spoon.

[Stephen2]

Fitzroy played in 4 finals series in the last 27 years.........and they have been dead since 96..:eek:
Hahaha nice one serenityNow :thumbsu: Awesome stats.

11%ers, any chance of you finding out the overall club % of making finals? Surely it would be above 50% like Adelaide, Brisbane & Carlton?

[FlyingCrow]

There ya go flying crow, another one. That's officially the second person who's agreed with you, and you've put up your stupid idea on at least four different threads.
Gaining momentum....

[FlyingCrow]

Fitzroy played in 4 finals series in the last 27 years.........and they have been dead since 96..:eek:
LOL, See Richmond are less suceesfull than a team that has not been in the comp for over a decade.

Anyone who thinks that a team with such a poor record should be in the ELITE aussie rules comp for the world is deluded, or a Devout Richmond fan (same thing)

Surely Richmond should be a merger or takeover target one day.

Centrals may be looking at taking over an AFL licenece in the near future, within next decade. Just need Andrew "Captain Victoria" Demetriou to get ousted.

[JSFish]

Did anyone find it unusual this year about how the Tiger fans just seemed to accept Richmond's dismal season?

Very few critics tipped Richmond to finish last; anywhere between 7th and 13th was typical, given the Tigers' improvement in 2005 & 2006. However, Richmond really struggled and turned in some terrible performances against Geelong, Hawthorn, Sydney & Port Adelaide. Normally when the Tigers have a bad season, or even a slump in an adequate season, some (and not all) Richmond fans scream for players, fans and officials to be sacked, and boo their team from the ground.

But this year - nothing. Not that this is a bad thing, it just seems out of character, considering the Tigers collected an unexpected wooden spoon.
I think it's because, apart from those games that you mentioned, we were in very winable positions in all of them and put in gallant efforts. I dont know about other tiges supporters, but last year, i was getting sick of every time we lost it being by 8 goals +. This year we probably took losing gallantly to a whole new level, and yeah it's still not good enough, and probably a lack of fitness and all that witht the last quarter fade outs, but at least we weren't getting flogged week in week out.

[Stephen2]

I think it's because, apart from those games that you mentioned, we were in very winable positions in all of them and put in gallant efforts. I dont know about other tiges supporters, but last year, i was getting sick of every time we lost it being by 8 goals +. This year we probably took losing gallantly to a whole new level, and yeah it's still not good enough, and probably a lack of fitness and all that witht the last quarter fade outs, but at least we weren't getting flogged week in week out.
Are you for real?!

There was a period there where you "gallantly" lost games by:
53,55,66,70

And some more:
25,32,23,157!!!,40

That's 2 streaks of 9 games combined that you wouldn't want to call "gallant", Mr 11%er

Anyway, off topic, I just want to know how often Richmond have made finals as a percentage... JSFish, any idea??

[FlyingCrow]

Are you for real?!

There was a period there where you "gallantly" lost games by:
53,55,66,70

And some more:
25,32,23,157!!!,40

That's 2 streaks of 9 games combined that you wouldn't want to call "gallant", Mr 11%er

Anyway, off topic, I just want to know how often Richmond have made finals as a percentage... JSFish, any idea??
Finals statistics Finals played: 78
Finals wins: 46
Finals losses: 31
Finals draws: 1
Winning percentage: 60%
Grand Final record Grand Finals: 22
Premierships: 10
Runners-up: 12
Winning percentage: 45%

http://home.iprimus.com.au/gunnado/richmond.html


Post 1980 they were a powerhouse.

But hey VB Commodores were competitive in touring cars in 1980, they dont stand a chance against a modern v8Supercar!!!

[Realistic Tiger]

First Played:1908
Last Season:2007
Seasons Played:100
Played Finals:34 34.0%
Premierships Won:10 10.0%
1920 1921 1932 1934 1943 1967 1969 1973 1974 1980
Finished Runner-Up:11 11.0%
1919 1927 1928 1931 1933 1934 1940 1942 1944 1972 1982
Minor Premiers:8 8.0%1920 1933 1934 1943 1944 1967 1974 1982
Wooden Spoons:6 6.0%
1917 1960 1987 1989 2004 2007
Total Games Played:2005
Total Games Won:1018 50.8%
Total Games Lost:969 48.3%
Total Games Drawn:18 0.9%

[FlyingCrow]

First Played:1908Last Season:2007Seasons Played:100Played Finals:3434.0%Premierships Won:1010.0%1920 1921 1932 1934 1943 1967 1969 1973 1974 1980Finished Runner-Up:1111.0%1919 1927 1928 1931 1933 1934 1940 1942 1944 1972 1982 Minor Premiers:88.0%1920 1933 1934 1943 1944 1967 1974 1982
Wooden Spoons:66.0%1917 1960 1987 1989 2004 2007Total Games Played:2005Total Games Won:101850.8%Total Games Lost:96948.3%Total Games Drawn:180.9%
any chance of tidying that up??

[hodge-910111213]

Tambling will be a star

[Realistic Tiger]

any chance of tidying that up??
Done

May I suggest that if your going to take a shot at a club that when you compare them to others you do it over their whole history not just periods that suit your arguement. So while it is true that Richmond have been rather ordinary for the last 27 years and none of us (the fans) are happy about it we are one of the most loyal supporter groups in the AFL.

For the record the following teams have worse overall finals appearance record than us:
Saints 20.2 %
Kangaroos 32.5%
Sydney 30.9%
Western Bulldogs 25.3%

Worse Overall Winning %:
Bulldogs 44.1%
Sydney 45.9%
Saints 37.7%
Melbourne 46.8%
Kangaroos 43.7%
Hawthorn 46.2%

Won More Wooden Spoons:
Saints 27
Hawks 11
Kangaroos 13
Melbourne 12
Sydney 11

So perhaps you might want to aim some of your barbs at some of those clubs on the lists above, in fact you could say one of them is already in the AFL's sites (personally I hope the Roos stay in Melbourne).

[FlyingCrow]

Done

May I suggest that if your going to take a shot at a club that when you compare them to others you do it over their whole history not just periods that suit your arguement. So while it is true that Richmond have been rather ordinary for the last 27 years and none of us (the fans) are happy about it we are one of the most loyal supporter groups in the AFL.

For the record the following teams have worse overall finals appearance record than us:
Saints 20.2 %
Kangaroos 32.5%
Sydney 30.9%
Western Bulldogs 25.3%

Worse Overall Winning %:
Bulldogs 44.1%
Sydney 45.9%
Saints 37.7%
Melbourne 46.8%
Kangaroos 43.7%
Hawthorn 46.2%

Won More Wooden Spoons:
Saints 27
Hawks 11
Kangaroos 13
Melbourne 12
Sydney 11

So perhaps you might want to aim some of your barbs at some of those clubs on the lists above, in fact you could say one of them is already in the AFL's sites (personally I hope the Roos stay in Melbourne).
Problem is your stats count what happend 100 years ago...Is that relevant?
It would be if you remained a succesfull club and kept momentum going forward. Like Essendon. They were a powerhouse in the VFL and have remained one in the AFL era. They are suffering at the minute but have won two flags in AFL era. The only other Vic club to do so is North.

My arguement is that Richmond are no longer an AFL standard club. They are a VFL standard club. By club I mean organisation. From Admin to Coaching staff theya re not up to scratch. Every other team in the comp is.

Kangaroos in the AFL era are the most successfull Vic team. When calculating Finals Appearance, depth in finals and Flags won.

[Realistic Tiger]

Problem is your stats count what happend 100 years ago...Is that relevant?
It would be if you remained a succesfull club and kept momentum going forward. Like Essendon. They were a powerhouse in the VFL and have remained one in the AFL era. They are suffering at the minute but have won two flags in AFL era. The only other Vic club to do so is North.

My arguement is that Richmond are no longer an AFL standard club. They are a VFL standard club. By club I mean organisation. From Admin to Coaching staff theya re not up to scratch. Every other team in the comp is.

Kangaroos in the AFL era are the most successfull Vic team. When calculating Finals Appearance, depth in finals and Flags won.
So let me get this straight, you're saying that what has happened in the past has no relevance to everyone else except for Richmond. :confused:

You use Richmonds previous 27 years of poor performance as the basis to make your claim but when given claims about other teams their history does not count but then the Roos history since 1990 does?

[serenityNow]

Done

May I suggest that if your going to take a shot at a club that when you compare them to others you do it over their whole history not just periods that suit your arguement. So while it is true that Richmond have been rather ordinary for the last 27 years and none of us (the fans) are happy about it we are one of the most loyal supporter groups in the AFL.

For the record the following teams have worse overall finals appearance record than us:
Saints 20.2 %
Kangaroos 32.5%
Sydney 30.9%
Western Bulldogs 25.3%

Worse Overall Winning %:
Bulldogs 44.1%
Sydney 45.9%
Saints 37.7%
Melbourne 46.8%
Kangaroos 43.7%
Hawthorn 46.2%

Won More Wooden Spoons:
Saints 27
Hawks 11
Kangaroos 13
Melbourne 12
Sydney 11

So perhaps you might want to aim some of your barbs at some of those clubs on the lists above, in fact you could say one of them is already in the AFL's sites (personally I hope the Roos stay in Melbourne).


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[Barry Zuckercorn QC]

Year Ticketed Members Placing Total Attendances1 Average Attendance1
1992 8,158 13th 474,209 21,555
1993 9,918 14th 484,665 24,233
1994 8,229 9th 646,365 29,380
1995 14,647 3rd 1,104,219¹ 44,169¹
1996 20,308 9th 852,421 38,746
1997 24,975 13th 783,933 35,633
1998 27,092 9th 1,023,631 46,529
1999 29,047 12th 882,077 40,094
2000 26,869 9th 854,280 38,831
2001 26,501 3rd 1,173,121¹ 46,925¹
2002 27,251 14th 776,137 35,279
2003 25,101 13th 830,841 37,765
2004 27,133 16th 751,914 34,178
2005 28,029 12th 802,883 36,494
2006 29,406 9th 855,186 38,872
2007 30,044 16th 909,203 41,327

Twice in AFL era, once in the 80s.....

Read their Wiki page worth a laugh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richmond_Football_Club

The above list begs the question: Why do people keep going about Richmond always finishing 9th? That's beyone flattery...

[Stephen2]

For the record the following teams have worse overall finals appearance record than us:
Saints 20.2 %

Won More Wooden Spoons:
Saints 27

Thanks RT for the figures, you're a champ, I like it :thumbsu:

Now not to get off topic but look at those figures! The Sainters actually get off lightly around here... 11% in modern times is well... appaling, but 20.2% over ALL TIME!!! LOL! :p Thanks again for the laughs RT.

Here, this sums it up:
http://z.about.com/d/goeasteurope/1/5/J/3/-/-/LatviaSpoons.jpg

[FlyingCrow]

Most of the vic clubs are shyt.

The VFL was dominated by 4 clubs. Then us interstaters came in and took it up a level. They are only now being able to compete again.

[ozserpico66]

Pathetic club, should be demoted to the VFL immediately.

Must be glad that this pathetic club has supplied your new coach :D

[Mr.X]

Woeful, absymal, pathetic record from the biggest underachievers over the last 25 years

Tigers are a true rabble