What type of player will your club go for in the 2008 National Draft?

[geelong_boy]

My apologies if the above topic has already been covered, but I would like to know from each team's supporters what sort of players their clubs will target in the upcoming draft - rucks, kp defenders/forwards or mids?

Geelong, from my point of view, is in a great position to really build for the long-term future. Some key players are in their late 20s so I'm thinking club recruiters will go for a key position backman and a long term ruck prospect.

Looking forward to reading your opinions. Cheers.

Edit: Sorry, meant THIS year's draft! whoops.

[dominguez]

Three midfielders and a ruckman. Pick 7 will definately be a mid.

[The Royal Sampler]

Hopefully two midfielders, a ruckman and a key back.

[huggy_b]

predictably like most clubs, KPP's to fill the void of G Train and the future void of Hudghton.

And hopefully a young promising ruckman.

[sinepari]

I think that any club which needs KPP's desperately has suffered a case of poor list management, as last year was the year to load up on talls.

[Patty#32]

CHB/FB, OUTSIDE MID, CHF, small forward

[dlanod]

Same as every other year - best available at our first pick. Best quality Qlder (if one's available) at the second pick. Assortment of runners, Qlders and speccie KPPs later.

[footy_paul]

Essendon will go inside mid with pick 6 (masten, ebert)
2nd round pick will be dangerfield (hopefully)
3rd round pick (tall defender, danniher)
4th, project defender or athletic ruckman

pass the rest of the picks.

[footy_paul]

CHB/FB, OUTSIDE MID, CHF, small forward

i dont think you need any more small forwards with thomas and cambell on your list

[footy_paul]

predictably like most clubs, KPP's to fill the void of G Train and the future void of Hudghton.

And hopefully a young promising ruckman.

hudghton leaves a void now (as he is always injured), i think your safe in that area with goose and both fishers

[sinepari]

i dont think you need any more small forwards with thomas and cambell on your list

+ Ross.

As far as WC go. I want runners. Lots of them. And when we can't take any more runners, a ruckman please.

Although I'd be happy to rookie-list a ruckman like Wes Lammie.

Cotchin, Ward, Maric, Simpson.

I'd be quite happy. In place of ward I'd accept Grant, Gourdis or a slider like Myers :D. OH how i wish he would slide.

[Messenger]

Two big needs at Hawthorn are a ball-carrying "outside" mid and a KP defender.

Probably only going to have three picks at this draft (12, 29 and 45).

Four spots on the list to fill, so either a rookie elevation or a trip to the PSD.

[footy_paul]

+ Ross.

Although I'd be happy to rookie-list a ruckman like Wes Lammie.


I like both these points, i have heard promising signs from Lammie,

Personally i think the kangaroos need an outside mid, too take some pressure off Wells, Palmer would be good put wont slide

[whitey_1975]

I agree with the weagles supporter that last year was theyear for big men and thankfully i think we did well on that front but only time will tell.

I would like to think we would go for an in and under extractor with our first pick and then a tall midfielder and an outside midfielderto replace our aging midfield then maybe take any potential forward/crumber such as a dan peirce or matt stokes as they can slide based on size. heres to hoping:)

ps we do have extra pics available but i think taylor walker and maybe another are penciled in already

[mojon95]

1st Rnd - Inside Mid (Brent Masten, Brad Ebert)
2nd Rnd - Outside Mid (Hugh Sandilands, Scott Selwood, Pat Vezpremi)
3rd Rnd - CHB (Darcy Daniher)
4th Rnd - Athletic Ruckman (Dean Putt)
5th Rnd - Running Tall Backman (Glenn Chivers)

[boms]

Pick 6 - Midfielder (Brad Ebert, Chris Masten or Rhys Palmer)
Pick 23 - Midfielder agian (Patrick Dangerfield hopefully)
Pick 39 - Darcy Dainher
Pick 55 - 3rd ruckman on list (Dean Putt maybe? Hope like hell Dawson Simpson slips)
Pick 71 - Anyone

[micky_11]

1st pick: KP Foward
2nd Pick: Quick Out-side Mid
3rd Pick: Quick Out-side Mid/KP Defender
4th Pick: Which ever doesnt get picked with our 3rd Pick

[Lynch takes a mark]

Pick 3 - one of Masten, Cotchin, McEvoy, Morton

Pick 13 - a tall like Gourdis, Grant, Myers, Pears would be awesome otherwise Bellchambers or my man Jack Grimes.

Pick 20 - A midfielder would usually have a good strike rate at this point in the draft.

Pick 22 - Athlete, preferable a tall one but as long as he is a brilliant athlete and coach able go with him, if we haven't taken a ruck at this point then have a look at Dawson Simpson

[philhawk]

Desperate Needs:

Outside Back/KPP Defender

Possible solution?

David Myers (WA)

Alex Rance (WA)

Tayte Pears (WA)

Not so desperate needs:

Forward 'crumber'

Possible solution?

Cyril Rioli (NT)

[blitzer]

Rather than specifically list the picks i think will be used on what players, hear are what i consider our clubs primary needs in the upcoming draft. Ranked by perceived need.

1) Elite Midfield Talent - We do actually have a fair few developing midfielders, particularly from the superdraft, but i believe we really need an elite talent or general to help us improve our currently woeful midfield particularly an midfielder capable of playing an inside role as others have alluded to. In terms of immediate effect, if we simply took a 3rd round midfielder, he would in all likelyhood be well behind guys like Dempsey, Hocking, Jetta, Hislop, Houli and Monfries. That's not to say that we should rule out such an option, it's just that there are already a lot of developing options in that area that need game time right now.

2) Depth in Key Backmen - We in all likelyhood have 2 years to cover the loss of fletch and probably just 1 year for mal michael. Currently Ryder looks a very good prospect down back. The club is touting Courtney Johns as a possible full back, also we have already secured Darcy Daniher (although he may be more of a 3rd tall rather than a key position defender). I believe we should responsibly use at least another one of our draft picks to take someone who could develop into a key backman.

3) Ruck Depth - We have an ok ruck division as it stands with Laycock and Hille. But the only real ruck depth we have is Ryder, except he is clearly needed as a backman, particularly from 2009 onwards. It is obvious we need a developing ruck that could step in if injuries occur. This may even be a rookie listed player, or mature age rookie if suitable candiates exist.

4) Versatile medium size players - We seem like we have a fair bit of height in our forward and backlines but we do not have a genuine mid sized forward who can both take a mark, but also has decent turn of pace to be able to crumb/apply more defensive pressure than our taller forward or conversely be able to defend smaller quicker forwards should the situation demand it. We have too many players that are somewhat limited to playing specific roles and the few players have that can play multiple roles EFFECTIVELY are spread too thin, such as McVeigh, Lucas, Ryder.

[08yearofthetiger]

Richmond:
#2 Cotchin
#18 Gourdis, Grant,Collier, Rance
#51 Key back or ruck

[sinepari]

1st Rnd - Inside Mid (Brent Masten, Brad Ebert)
2nd Rnd - Outside Mid (Hugh Sandilands, Scott Selwood, Pat Vezpremi)
3rd Rnd - CHB (Darcy Daniher)
4th Rnd - Athletic Ruckman (Dean Putt)
5th Rnd - Running Tall Backman (Glenn Chivers)

Where's he from?

[borderbarry]

For the Saints, mainly mid-fielders, although the coach has said we will be looking to improve our ruck stocks. I read several months ago that the Saints and another club were looking at a particular ruckman, I know he was not one of the more fancied ones, could have been Brett Connolly from Gippsland, and that we were interested in Rioli. That was several months ago too.
If we were to go for Rioli it would have to be pick 9.
Pick 42 for that ruckman.
Pick 58 for a good sized defender
Pick 74 another mid or a utility type.

[NeilElvis]

hudghton leaves a void now (as he is always injured), i think your safe in that area with goose and both fishers

Max has actually been pretty injury free over the past few years but missed most of last pre season and was fighting a losing battle after that. After hurting himself early in the season, he didn't have the fitness base to get himself back to match fitness and kept on breaking down.

A full pre season & he'll be fine.

On your other point I do believe that we need to draft a key defender to groom to take over from Maxy as Goose and Chips (Sam Fisher) are both suited to the half back line, Leigh Fisher isn't a key defender & Gwilt is a bit undersized.

Sam Gilbert was drafted as a key defender but has shown his value up the ground. I wouldn't be surprised if he does spend more time deep in defence but I suppose it depends if St.Kilda drafts Rance or one of the gun mids falls to pick 9 (one they can't pass up on).

[windows]

Ourside the ongoing Kreuzer/Cotchin debate at one....

at 36 and 46 we will be very limited. I'm hoping for a small defender. Modest ambitions I know. But would be very pleased if someone like Steven Brown were to sneak down that low.

[vinnie_vegas69]

Have to wait and see who we pick up in the 2007 draft first... Hopefully Daniel Rich falls to us at the last pick in the first round ;)

[scooter600x]

Pick 5 - key forward
Pick 19 - key forward
Pick 35 - key forward
Pick 43 - key forward
Pick 48 - key forward

Surely one of them will actually be good enough to keep on the list for longer than 5 minutes!

[GoDons]

1st Rnd - Inside Mid (Brent Masten, Brad Ebert)
2nd Rnd - Outside Mid (Hugh Sandilands, Scott Selwood, Pat Vezpremi)
3rd Rnd - CHB (Darcy Daniher)
4th Rnd - Athletic Ruckman (Dean Putt)
5th Rnd - Running Tall Backman (Glenn Chivers)

Selwood and Veszpremi are outside midfielders?

Now I've heard it all.

[TheGeneral]

Cotchin or Gilly will have a breakdown. ;)

Two players like Joe Andersons at 36 and 46 will do me.

No to Colllard.

[Sherminator.]

Have to wait and see who we pick up in the 2007 draft first... Hopefully Daniel Rich falls to us at the last pick in the first round ;)
Isn't he ineligeble?

[juddy_Like]

West Coast's drafting Strategy is like Good Sex...


If your small and dont last long.... then your no good.

:)

[Ryder Is God]

Pick 6: In and under midfielder (Chris Masten/Rhys Palmer/Brad Ebert)
Pick 23: Midfielder, hopefully Dangerfield
Pick 39: Darcy Daniher
Pick 55: Backman (Travis Dulic)
Pick 71: Project ruckman

[vinnie_vegas69]

Isn't he ineligeble?
I'm talking about the 2008 draft ;)

[Dale Didak #134]

Pick 6: In and under midfielder (Chris Masten/Rhys Palmer/Brad Ebert)
Pick 23: Midfielder, hopefully Dangerfield
Pick 39: Darcy Daniher
Pick 55: Backman (Travis Dulic)
Pick 71: Project ruckman


Is that Masten on your avator?

[sinepari]

Yes Masten is on his Avatar.

[Palmer Stoat]

#31 - mid
#47 - mid
#63 - ruckman
#79 - Barham (f/s)

Any mid who excels at stoppages would be looked at very closely by Collingwood, I expect. Perhaps someone like Joseph or Farmer if they're still there at #31.

If we only use the first two picks and take Barham at #63, then I'm not sure if we'd opt for two mids or a mid and a ruck. If we only have two live picks, we might take the two mids and rookie list a young ruck.

[mj23]

Swans would have to be going for the best key position players avalible with picks 11 and 26. Would like a CHF with 11 and CHB with 26.

[Vic Crow]

I'm talking about the 2008 draft ;)
Haha, this thread title has been driving me nuts! Can a mod please change it to 2007?

But while we're talking about 2008 all the players that I want will be gone by the time we have our first pick...I hope. ;)

[DCFCFAN84]

Three midfielders and a ruckman. Pick 7 will definately be a mid.

Mostly agree first two picks got get a couple good mids. Don't know about the ruckman though Sandilands/Warnock/Gilmore look pretty good. Maybe another tall defender might be a good option.

Hopefully we get Masten at pick 7 should put some pressure on Hasleby to preform as they are similar type players. Palmer would be fantastic he wont make it to us though.

[Reg Hickey]

Geelong have a pretty good top 30 right now - we need to be thinking about back ups and succession planning.

We have just delisted/traded eight players 188cm or taller, and our oldest players and ages at the start of next season are Milburn (31), Harley (29), Scarlett (28), Mooney (28) and Ottens (28).

That screams "talls" to me.

So I would say a ruckman, a couple of KPPs (at least one of whom should be a defender) and maybe a tallish utility/midfielder.

[Saint Corin]

Midfielder(though if Rance is still there, get him)
backman(or a mid if we got rance in first round)
mid
ruck

[Lynch takes a mark]

Love to get couple of tall, hard running finisher like Cale Morton & David Myers

I really hate the thought of taking pure inside mids & rucks

Ideal draft (for me)

#3 Cale Morton
#13 David Myers
#20 Callan Ward
#22 Jack Grimes

all 6"+, run hard and are versatile with good disposal

[Thorgils]

Pick 12 > Hawthorn - KPB or Smalll Forward – Myers or Rioli
Pick 29 > Hawthorn – KPB – Pears or Gaertner
Pick 45 > Hawthorn – Forward - Motlop
Pick 61 > Hawthorn – Mid - Prismall

[The Teflon Dean]

In order of priority -

KP Defenders
Quick outside mids
KP Forwards
Project ruckman

............and no bloody Motlops.:thumbsd:

No in and unders, medium/small forwards or medium/small defenders required.

[Phaze Away]

I really hate the thought of taking pure inside mids & rucks

Why? Don't you have about 2 ruckmen on your list?
Or are you hoping to rookie some?

[sinepari]

Love to get couple of tall, hard running finisher like Cale Morton & David Myers

I really hate the thought of taking pure inside mids & rucks

Ideal draft (for me)

#3 Cale Morton
#13 David Myers
#20 Callan Ward
#22 Jack Grimes

all 6"+, run hard and are versatile with good disposal

Cotchin, Ward, Dangerfield, Grimes / Selwood

?

I don't think Morton & Myers will be available at 3/13.

[Quigley]

If 22 is the last pick for WC what do you guys think the chances are of taking a ruck? You have to take one somewhere I think although there might be some available in the rookie draft.

[sinepari]

I'm thinking Rookie draft, but wouldn't surprise me if we take one at 13,20 or 22.

[Lynch takes a mark]

Why? Don't you have about 2 ruckmen on your list?
Or are you hoping to rookie some?

drafting inside mids and ruckmen are like pulling teeth to me, so often they turn out to be ordinary players.

inside mids are usually slow, low to the ground and ordinary kicks, rucks gangly, skinny and unco

But then you get guys like Cale Morton, Scott Pendlebury and Dale Thomas who play with flair and because they are already "outside" types they manage to have an impact much sooner.

Cotchin, Ward, Dangerfield, Grimes / Selwood

?

I don't think Morton & Myers will be available at 3/13.

Cotchin, Ward, Grimes, Veszpremi - 4 vic metro kids to form a small club, maybe Selwood if Ward is gone.

Would take Veszpremi over Dangerfield, I don't see him progressing past tagger and we already have Selwood, Stenglein, McNamara and Houlihan to do those jobs wit hthe likes of Hurn & Waters also more than capable of doing regular stopping jobs.

we need offensive hurt factor in the team, we have plenty of blue collar grunt to last us a while

Cotchin - dual sided great kick

Ward - long range with a high hurt factor and very versatile

Veszpremi - long range and a high hurt factor, both ends of the ground

Hurn - LONG range with a high hurt factor, damaging from the defencive goal square to 60m from goal.

Grimes - not a routinely great kick but can do very special things inside packs, in the forward line and setting up play from half back and just such an awesome off field person to have, i know the word spiritual leader gets bandied around but I think he could be our next one.

i would use 13 on Grimes, even if there is a player with bigger upside I would still take Grimes just in case we don't get him at 20.

the rest of the players we have (Priddis, Selwood, Waters, Stenglein ect) are not great kicks (reliable skills but nothing great) so we need to start development of the next band of outside mids

Vesz has some big upside with his combination of Speed, aggression & kicking, will impact pretty much straight away from a flank at either end of the ground and possibly move into the midfield in future years.

the thought of Selwood(s) Veszpremi and Waters in the same team will send shivers down the spine of the opposition.

sorry for the essay :D

[scomac]

With this midfield need a ruckman,

[lets_fly_up]

#6 outside mid (Myers or Palmer).
#23 Ruckman (Dawson or Bellchambers).
#39 Daniher
#55 inside mid (Valenti)

[sydney eagle]

+ Ross.

As far as WC go. I want runners. Lots of them. And when we can't take any more runners, a ruckman please.

Although I'd be happy to rookie-list a ruckman like Wes Lammie.

Cotchin, Ward, Maric, Simpson.

I'd be quite happy. In place of ward I'd accept Grant, Gourdis or a slider like Myers :D. OH how i wish he would slide. Yeah runners look like the way for West Coast to go. Maybe an "in and under" ball winner and a small forward to back up Le Cras as well ?;)

[mad-saint-guy]

Hopefully two midfielders, a ruckman and a key back.

Exactly the same for St Kilda.

Pick 9 will be from: Rioli, Ebert, Myers, Rance, Ward, Vezpremi and possibly McEvoy (if we have some decent mids in mind for later picks)

[sinepari]

I don't think we're desperate for in and under ball winners at wc.

[Bachar_Houli]

Essendon:

pick 6: inside midfielder
pick 23: midfielder/hlaf back flank
pick 39: daniher
pick 53: project ruckman

[TheGeneral]

Does anyone else think the Cats will draft a CHB or tall defender if there is a decent prospect available at 17?

The likes of Prismall, Djerrkura, Varcoe, Hogan, Davenport and Tenace have the wings, forward flank and onball spots covered.

Good luck getting a game in the AFL's best midfield.

And they have to squeeze Lonergan and Hawkins into the best forwardline in the AFL.

Yet Scarlett, Milburn and Harley are all older than 29 next year and Egan is no spring chicken at 25, so they might draft a tall defender with their first pick. They've done a great job in turning a junior tennis player into an AA CHB and have the list that would allow them to develop a player such as Gaertner or Kangars in the VFL.

Or they might go for a ruck to replace King.

A medium defender wouldn't go astray and Collier might be the ideal replacement for Milburn if he's there at 17.

Their pick will be an interesting one and is harder to predict.

[GoDons]

I'm not sure that Geelong are quite as well off as you suggest, but nonetheless you raise a good point.

Presumably Geelong won't match what they did in 2007. They may still win the flag, but seasons like that don't come around year after year.

It is only after next season that we'll really see where the cracks are, the areas where they lack a good player. Last year, everyone was on top of their game. The guys that don't back it up will reveal the weaknesses.

It seems clear that they'll chase a tall defender, but beyond that, there's no specific players that they desperately need. That, in turn, makes the recruting process difficult. It's hard to tell which players will fit in the team.

It'll be interesting to look back on Geelong's selections this year in a few years time and see if they got it right. It'll speak very highly of their recruiting department if they do.

[bloods01]

With only two live picks we need to make both of them count. At pick 11 we have a great opportunity to pick up the best KPP availbale at that time. Alex Rance and Tom Collier would be two players that will be very closely looked at. Dave Gourdis is another that could be available at 11.

Pick 26 on the other hand is a different story. It really depends on who is available at the time. I would like to think that they would go for another KPP. We have an abundance of midfielders and taking a ruckman at this early stage is always a risk.

KPP is the way to go.

[liz]

Swans would have to be going for the best key position players avalible with picks 11 and 26. Would like a CHF with 11 and CHB with 26.

With only two live picks we need to make both of them count. At pick 11 we have a great opportunity to pick up the best KPP availbale at that time. Alex Rance and Tom Collier would be two players that will be very closely looked at. Dave Gourdis is another that could be available at 11.

Pick 26 on the other hand is a different story. It really depends on who is available at the time. I would like to think that they would go for another KPP. We have an abundance of midfielders and taking a ruckman at this early stage is always a risk.

KPP is the way to go.

My expectation (not necessarily my desire) is that the Swans will pick one running mid / flanker and one KPP, having already secured a clearance specialist in Bird.

Roos has traditionally been reluctant to use early picks on taller players (and has stated his reasons why). Given both the Swans picks are relatively early - compared to recent years, anyway, having not traded away a first round pick -I can't see him taking two punts on taller players.

That said, I suspect they will take the one tall, mindful of the limited remaining shelf-life of O'Loughlin, Barry and Hall.

I wouldn't like to punt which order they'll take the mid and the tall. Depends on who they rate and who they expect to be around (she says, stating the bleedin' obvious).

[sydney eagle]

I don't think we're desperate for in and under ball winners at wc. Well perhaps not. Maybe a small, rebounding defender then. I worry that our small defenders are a bit injury prone.

[bloods01]

My expectation (not necessarily my desire) is that the Swans will pick one running mid / flanker and one KPP, having already secured a clearance specialist in Bird.

Roos has traditionally been reluctant to use early picks on taller players (and has stated his reasons why). Given both the Swans picks are relatively early - compared to recent years, anyway, having not traded away a first round pick -I can't see him taking two punts on taller players.

That said, I suspect they will take the one tall, mindful of the limited remaining shelf-life of O'Loughlin, Barry and Hall.

I wouldn't like to punt which order they'll take the mid and the tall. Depends on who they rate and who they expect to be around (she says, stating the bleedin' obvious).

I agree with your thoughts to some degree. We don't have anyone with height coming through the ranks (apart from Jesse White). We need to pick a KPP sooner or later. I have no doubt that at least one of the picks will be used on a tallish type player and the other one is up for debate I guess.