Pick 1,36,46,62,

[lou73]

Pick 1 - Mathew Kreuzer
Pick 36 - Tony Notte or Robbie Tarrant
Pick 46 - Joel Smouha
Pick 62 - Marlon Motlop or Travis Dulic

Pick 78 if used Jethro Calma Holt

Highly unlikely Guess, anyone else willing to try

[Gilly1972]

Pick 1 - Mathew Kreuzer
Pick 36 - Tony Notte or Robbie Tarrant
Pick 46 - Joel Smouha
Pick 62 - Marlon Motlop or Travis Dulic

Pick 78 if used Jethro Calma Holt

Highly unlikely Guess, anyone else willing to try

Are we trying for land of the giants???

;):p

[HBF]

I would say that we are unlikely to use any picks after #46.

#1 Kreuzer or Cotchin
#36 Maric (Could fall being injured since July, and spends the majority of his time up forward)
#46 Luke Sampey

[bLuEbOy1984]

Pick 1 - Mathew Kreuzer
Pick 36 - Tony Notte or Robbie Tarrant
Pick 46 - Joel Smouha
Pick 62 - Marlon Motlop or Travis Dulic

Pick 78 if used Jethro Calma Holt

Highly unlikely Guess, anyone else willing to try

who are they, what qualities do they have ? alot of people like myself dont know enough about the draft give us a little paragraph on each of your choices

[chelsworthgale]

I know the kid personally and rate him very highly. There is a bloke at the Northern Knights by the name of Tim Bongetti who constantly jagged bags of goals this year. Solid lad of about 190cm... decent leap on him. Would be good at pick 36 and would sit well up in the forward line of hartlett, betts, fevola, fisher etc.

[lou73]

Are we trying for land of the giants???

;):p

We need a CHF And CHB

[Gilly1972]

We need a CHF And CHB

Don't rate Austin or Bower??

[bLuEbOy1984]

Don't rate Austin or Bower??

I rate Bower highly

[marcmurphy3]

I would say that we are unlikely to use any picks after #46.

#1 Kreuzer or Cotchin
#36 Maric (Could fall being injured since July, and spends the majority of his time up forward)
#46 Luke Sampey

I'd be thrilled if we got Maric at 36. if not him then Motlop.

Sampi would also be good at 46.

Despite what people say about our list we are still a bit top heavy so I hope we don't overreact to the Kennedy trade and take all talls.

This piece of writing from CSC backs my point:

"Based on the 2007 lists of nine clubs, the ratio of smalls to talls is 28:16 - ie about 63% of AFL lists are small mid types. Carlton's list was 50% - well below other teams. We currently have 20 mid types out of 36 - eight short of what would be expected on a mature list. But we're in the process of becoming a mature list so we'll probably go for 2-3 talls depending on what's available and the rest smalls.

We probably need a quality tall to replace Kennedy and may need a ruckman (and please no stories that Kreuzer can do both) but our overwhelming need is smalls both in numbers and quality.

Our biggest problem at ther moment is there are so many unknowns on our list"

[Homer Simpson for Lance]

I would say that we are unlikely to use any picks after #46.

#1 Kreuzer or Cotchin
#36 Maric (Could fall being injured since July, and spends the majority of his time up forward)
#46 Luke Sampey

We need a quality midsized forward badly......would be a great get

[walkers a legend]

what about that polkinghorne guy

[BluesRules]

I would say that we are unlikely to use any picks after #46.

#1 Kreuzer or Cotchin
#36 Maric (Could fall being injured since July, and spends the majority of his time up forward)
#46 Luke Sampey

I will pull my pants down and have fun with my cars exhaust if Maric falls to 36.:)

But, I hope you're right (You do know your stuff), the kid is a ripper.:thumbsu::)

[lou73]

Don't rate Austin or Bower??

There good players, but are Bower and Austin big enough to hold down CHB ?

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

I would say that we are unlikely to use any picks after #46.

#1 Kreuzer or Cotchin
#36 Maric (Could fall being injured since July, and spends the majority of his time up forward)
#46 Luke Sampey

I like the look of that.

[BluesRules]

I rate Bower highly

Highly might be a bit extreme, but he can play. I still think Austin has more potential because he can play key position. I doubt Bower can hold down a key position role. He is more of a bank flanker to play on the O'Loughlin types.

[Gilly1972]

I would say that we are unlikely to use any picks after #46.

#1 Kreuzer or Cotchin
#36 Maric (Could fall being injured since July, and spends the majority of his time up forward)
#46 Luke Sampey

Don't think Maric will slide that far.....would be fantastic though......where do you see Sampey playing and who do you see him getting a game in front of as a third tall forward?.

[Gilly1972]

Highly might be a bit extreme, but he can play. I still think Austin has more potential because he can play key position. I doubt Bower can hold down a key position role. He is more of a bank flanker to play on the O'Loughlin types.

Height isn't so much an issue with Bower playing CHB but core body strength. Looking at his frame I don't see any reason he won't develop that....last year on the surface at least it seems he developed some discipline and learnt to play a much tighter and more defensive role. If he continues along that development path while working on his core body strength I don't see why he can't become an aggressive rebounding type CHB.

[lou73]

Don't think Maric will slide that far.....would be fantastic though......where do you see Sampey playing and who do you see him getting a game in front of as a third tall forward?.

Sampey ? heard Kent Kingley comparisons

[princess park]

I really think we need to get some KPP's with height of around 195cm. Anyone smaller in height is just going to be another Bower, Austin or the like.
We need a big strong, quick FB, CHB & CHF.
I'm not sure the players we have are big enough. Sure, they show potential but only for Flanks & Wings.

[Blue Dawn]

I really think we need to get some KPP's with height of around 195cm. Anyone smaller in height is just going to be another Bower, Austin or the like.
We need a big strong, quick FB, CHB & CHF.
I'm not sure the players we have are big enough. Sure, they show potential but only for Flanks & Wings.

Austin looks to have the perfect frame for CHB and, provided he puts on the weight, no reason why Bower couldn't in a few years either. Big hopes for Austin though this year!:thumbsu:

[Jeremias]

There good players, but are Bower and Austin big enough to hold down CHB ?

Yes.

Austin was 194cm and 88kg when drafted last year, and is still only 18 so will continue to grow.

Bower is 192cm and 87kg and is only 19. He too, will fill out. Apparently he has a bit of Maori blood in him, so he could seriously become a monster.

Out of those 2, Austin is far more likely to become a KP defender. Bower is more a running defender, who could definitely turn out to be a 3rd tall defender who has some mongrel in him, and loves to attack.

[marcmurphy3]

I really think we need to get some KPP's with height of around 195cm. Anyone smaller in height is just going to be another Bower, Austin or the like.
We need a big strong, quick FB, CHB & CHF.
I'm not sure the players we have are big enough. Sure, they show potential but only for Flanks & Wings.

The problem is that we've already taken lots of big guys in recent years rather than mids and our list is consequently already top heavy.

Anyone heard a rumor that we are looking at a 19 year old called Joel Coombes?

[lou73]

I really think we need to get some KPP's with height of around 195cm. Anyone smaller in height is just going to be another Bower, Austin or the like.
We need a big strong, quick FB, CHB & CHF.
I'm not sure the players we have are big enough. Sure, they show potential but only for Flanks & Wings.

Agree, we need a CHF, CHB and FB with size. Hoping Hartlett plays at CHB and O Hailpin plays at FB.

[lou73]

The problem is that we've already taken lots of big guys in recent years rather than mids and our list is consequently already top heavy.

Anyone heard a rumor that we are looking at a 19 year old called Joel Coombes?

Joel Coombes ? Who is he and what position does he play

[marcmurphy3]

Joel Coombes ? Who is he and what position does he play

I heard it on TC. He is a 182cm wingman who plays for the BH Hawks.

[Mayesy_23]

I would say that we are unlikely to use any picks after #46.

#1 Kreuzer or Cotchin
#36 Maric (Could fall being injured since July, and spends the majority of his time up forward)
#46 Luke Sampey
That would be absolutely awesome.

[TheGeneral]

Motlop at pick 62?

And I will steal Twigley from Juddy. ;)

Maric won't be there either.

Pick 36 has to be Dangerfield.

[blueant]

Maric or tarrant would be just fine at pick 36

[HBF]

Don't think Maric will slide that far.....would be fantastic though......where do you see Sampey playing and who do you see him getting a game in front of as a third tall forward?.

I knew you'd pick me up on Luke Sampey. I had the same thought, but he looks a likely type. Give him a couple of years to develop, and I reckon he could come on and be that rotating 3rd tall in the forward line, when Waite and Fisher need a chop out. I'll have much more of an idea when I have completed my Mock Draft.

As for Maric, I reckon he might get close to #36, for the reasons I have already outlined.

[TGR]

Pick 36 has to be Dangerfield.


I don't think my heart could take him and Bower in the same back-line.

Would love Meredith for pick 36, but it won't happen and not because I think he'll be gone. He's not a WH type.

46 is funtime for Hughesy this year I reckon. Go and get the most raw peice of clay out there with the most upside I think.

[sinepari]

There is no way Maric or Motlop will be available at the selections people have speculated.

I'd be surprised if Dangerfield is available at 36 too.

[lou73]

[quote=HBF;9291182]I knew you'd pick me up on Luke Sampey. I had the same thought, but he looks a likely type. Give him a couple of years to develop, and I reckon he could come on and be that rotating 3rd tall in the forward line, when Waite and Fisher need a chop out. I'll have much more of an idea when I have completed my Mock Draft.

As for Maric, I reckon he might get close to #36, for the reasons I have already outlined.[/quot

With Pick 36 Carlton have to draft the best CHF available

[marcmurphy3]

[quote=HBF;9291182]I knew you'd pick me up on Luke Sampey. I had the same thought, but he looks a likely type. Give him a couple of years to develop, and I reckon he could come on and be that rotating 3rd tall in the forward line, when Waite and Fisher need a chop out. I'll have much more of an idea when I have completed my Mock Draft.

As for Maric, I reckon he might get close to #36, for the reasons I have already outlined.[/quot

With Pick 36 Carlton have to draft the best CHF available

We are in just as much need of a quality small forward as we are of a CHF. Draft for needs at 46.

[XXX KINGS]

The problem is that we've already taken lots of big guys in recent years rather than mids and our list is consequently already top heavy.

Anyone heard a rumor that we are looking at a 19 year old called Joel Coombes?

Don't fall into the trap of thinking we are top heavy. We have plenty of dead wood tall midfielders, tall flankers and dud ruckman however our kpp depth is ordinary at best.

Forwards:
Fev, Waite and Hartlett. Who else can play key position? Setanta?

Backs:
Thornton (kpp?), O'hailpin, Jamison, Austin, Bower (kpp?)

Our developing backs look a little bit more promising then forwards tbh. We just need to wait a few years, but I think Austin and O'hailpin will be able to hold FB and CHB, Jamison, Bower, Thornton to take the other forwards. I still think we are short one-two more developing kpp defenders and maybe two-three developing kpp forwards. Get rid of hacks like Ackland, Saddington, Wiggins etc so we can fit some room in our list for these players. We have a long way to go.

On a side note what is that Stefan Martin guy like? Has anyone seen if he goes alright? Last year there was an article saying how he won his league best and fairest from 8 games and IIRC he played VFL this year.

[ClayBlue87]

Don't fall into the trap of thinking we are top heavy. We have plenty of dead wood tall midfielders, tall flankers and dud ruckman however our kpp depth is ordinary at best.

Forwards:
Fev, Waite and Hartlett. Who else can play key position? Setanta?

Backs:
Thornton (kpp?), O'hailpin, Jamison, Austin, Bower (kpp?)

Our developing backs look a little bit more promising then forwards tbh. We just need to wait a few years, but I think Austin and O'hailpin will be able to hold FB and CHB, Jamison, Bower, Thornton to take the other forwards. I still think we are short one-two more developing kpp defenders and maybe two-three developing kpp forwards. Get rid of hacks like Ackland, Saddington, Wiggins etc so we can fit some room in our list for these players. We have a long way to go.

On a side note what is that Stefan Martin guy like? Has anyone seen if he goes alright? Last year there was an article saying how he won his league best and fairest from 8 games and IIRC he played VFL this year.

Agreed... Backline is young and yet to see whether it can develop...

But i think without Josh Kennedy and Whitnal, out KP forward looks ordinary.

Atm its is:
Fevola FF
Waite CHF
Fisher 3rd Tall

5-6 yrs time:
Hampson FF
Hartlett CHF
Edwards 3rd tall

doesnt look fantastic

i think we have plenty of mids...this draft is crap, lets take some risks on KP fwds see if they work out

[Will.B.Worth.Da.Waite]

I would say that we are unlikely to use any picks after #46.

#1 Kreuzer or Cotchin
#36 Maric (Could fall being injured since July, and spends the majority of his time up forward)
#46 Luke Sampey

like the sound of that. only saw him play once (against Vic Metro), but he looked like he has some potential i reckon.

also based on the first post of the thread, do people think Smouha will fall to 46? i got the impression he would go in the first 2 rounds?

[HBF]

There is no way Maric or Motlop will be available at the selections people have speculated.

I'd be surprised if Dangerfield is available at 36 too.

Don't be surprised if Maric does fall this year sinepari. Alot of us had Connors, O'Brien and Benjamin in our top 20's last year, and they all fell well below that. Even Collard, who has just been delisted (:eek:), fell to 31, when everyone was touting him as a top 20 selection as well.

Maric is only 179cm, and plays about 90% of the game in FP. Also, has been injured since about July. Furthermore, alot of his marks and goals come from superior body strength and positiong, something that he would not be able to do right off the bat in the AFL. I think he'll fall somewhat. Whether he gets to 36 remains to be seen, but IMO, he won't go as high as some people think.

[Will.B.Worth.Da.Waite]

^ is maric a bit like a brett ebert sort of player?

[marcmurphy3]

^ is maric a bit like a brett ebert sort of player?

Very similar.

[TheGeneral]

I don't think my heart could take him and Bower in the same back-line.
I just wanted to call him Rodney. :o :thumbsu:

Find us another Joey Anderson. :thumbsu:

[Bluebear]

Pick 1 - Mathew Kreuzer
Pick 36 - Tony Notte or Robbie Tarrant
Pick 46 - Joel Smouha
Pick 62 - Marlon Motlop or Travis Dulic

Pick 78 if used Jethro Calma Holt

Highly unlikely Guess, anyone else willing to try

Hate to be nit picky.......actually I don't, but what the hey, I'm bored.

We don't have pick 62. It's pick 68.
(Prior to trade - 1, 3, 20, 36, 52, 68, 84)

Anyway, on with the hypothesiseses.:thumbsu:

[Jeremias]

Agreed... Backline is young and yet to see whether it can develop...

But i think without Josh Kennedy and Whitnal, out KP forward looks ordinary.

Atm its is:
Fevola FF
Waite CHF
Fisher 3rd Tall

5-6 yrs time:
Hampson FF
Hartlett CHF
Edwards 3rd tall

doesnt look fantastic

i think we have plenty of mids...this draft is crap, lets take some risks on KP fwds see if they work out

In 5-6 years time, Waite and Fisher will still be in the team, barring any unfortunate circumstances. Waite can hold down CHF and Fisher will continue his current role.

Hammo is not a Full Forward. We are developing him into a ruckman, not a key forward. He can rest there, as shown when we played the Demons, but a permanent forward role doesn't suit him.

As for your last comment, I don't buy it. Sure, we need another KP prospect to play up forward. So many unknowns-will Kreuzer end up a permanent forward? We will take another KP forward at some stage with the intent to develop him into a power forward. But, as has been mentioned in other threads, you can never have enough midfielders. All it leads to is greater depth within the playing group, more competition for spots, and more talent, which are only good things. The truth is, you can afford to have as many as 16 players in your 22 who are capable of playing through the middle of the ground, and the way that the AFL is currently heading, that's what I see more of. An example: specialist forward pockets are being slowly weeded out of the game, to be replaced by resting midfielders who add to the midfield rotation. That's why it's so important for Eddie to gain experience in the middle of the ground.

[Gilly1972]

I don't think my heart could take him and Bower in the same back-line.

Would love Meredith for pick 36, but it won't happen and not because I think he'll be gone. He's not a WH type.

46 is funtime for Hughesy this year I reckon. Go and get the most raw peice of clay out there with the most upside I think.

SMOUHA!!!!

[Gilly1972]

like the sound of that. only saw him play once (against Vic Metro), but he looked like he has some potential i reckon.

also based on the first post of the thread, do people think Smouha will fall to 46? i got the impression he would go in the first 2 rounds?

Smouha could shoot up on the back of his draft camp results. My only issue is his rawness (Hampson gamble seems to be paying off though), and he seems a tad short for genuine ruck height......I'm not sure if he would be on the radar at 36, so I'd be surprised if he were in Navy Blue post Nov 24.

[Gilly1972]

Don't be surprised if Maric does fall this year sinepari. Alot of us had Connors, O'Brien and Benjamin in our top 20's last year, and they all fell well below that. Even Collard, who has just been delisted (:eek:), fell to 31, when everyone was touting him as a top 20 selection as well.

Maric is only 179cm, and plays about 90% of the game in FP. Also, has been injured since about July. Furthermore, alot of his marks and goals come from superior body strength and positiong, something that he would not be able to do right off the bat in the AFL. I think he'll fall somewhat. Whether he gets to 36 remains to be seen, but IMO, he won't go as high as some people think.

AFAIK Collard, Connors and O'Brien fell due to question marks over their committment and/or character flaws. Maric doesn't seem to have the same question marks, in fact from what I've heard he is of great character. I suspsect where he is taken you will not so much say he slid but given his likely role and position at AFL level that around the 20-25 mark is about where you would expect. If he does slide any further then I think it will just be a matter of a few clubs picking talls for need.

[lou73]

Hate to be nit picky.......actually I don't, but what the hey, I'm bored.

We don't have pick 62. It's pick 68.
(Prior to trade - 1, 3, 20, 36, 52, 68, 84)

Anyway, on with the hypothesiseses.:thumbsu:

You got me on that one

Pick 1,36,46,68,84 :thumbsu:

[BryceGibbs#4]

1, Kreuzer
36, McKenna
46, Kangars

? Thoughts.

[Gilly1972]

1, Kreuzer
36, McKenna
46, Kangars

? Thoughts.

McKenna doesn't play with enough intensity for mine, will be gone by 36 though. Kangars is pretty raw and his decision-making a bit suss...basically buying a raw athlete that needs a lot of work on his skills and DM. I think we can do better. I would back Bower and Austin over those two.

I hope if we go for Kreuzer at #1 then we go for another midfielder/sm forward at #36. Rockliff from the Murray Bushrangers would be an example, but I'm hoping that some teams will go tall in the first two rounds and we will be pleasantly surprised by who we get at #36. I would then perhaps take a punt on a KPP at #46, though I think the pickings are pretty thin in those respects this year.

[Marc Shmurf 3]

Pick 1 C Judd
Pick 36 M Murphy
Pick 46 B Gibbs

how about that...

thoughts

[Bentick's My Man.]

There good players, but are Bower and Austin big enough to hold down CHB ?

Austin will be after he develops, Bower more of a running backman.

[TheGeneral]

Is Luke Stanton a player we would consider for pick 36 if he's there?

A couple of people said he was a good size when I was eavesdropping at that Knights game at PP. :p

:cool:

[Gilly1972]

Is Luke Stanton a player we would consider for pick 36 if he's there?

A couple of people said he was a good size when I was eavesdropping at that Knights game at PP. :p

:cool:

Aburrrrr ???

Stalking us again?

Yeah, I wouldn't mind Lukey as a speculative pick at #46. I reckon he's a late developer too.

[TheGeneral]

Aburrrrr ???

Stalking us again?

Yeah, I wouldn't mind Lukey as a speculative pick at #46. I reckon he's a late developer too.
Aburrrr? :confused:

Please explain.

I was eavesdropping on some scouts. :thumbsu: :D

And I'm stalking AWG. ;)

I read Stanton's AIS profile and it said he's a former basketballer like Pendlebury who was a bottom ager.

And his cousin is Dal Santo.

Are Stanton's skills and game anything like these two players?

I'd rather we find another Joe Anderson if he's a Houlihan. :wavesatBlueWorld:

I don't want Wundke at 36, 46, 62 or know much about him, but will he get drafted?

[smithos]

I'd be very happy with Stanton at 36 if he was available.

Gilly and HBF are you going to be posting a top 50 or something similar?

[TGR]

Aburrrr? :confused:

Please explain.

I was eavesdropping on some scouts. :thumbsu: :D

And I'm stalking AWG. ;)

I read Stanton's AIS profile and it said he's a former basketballer like Pendlebury who was a bottom ager.

And his cousin is Dal Santo.

Are Stanton's skills and game anything like these two players?

I'd rather we find another Joe Anderson if he's a Houlihan. :wavesatBlueWorld:

I don't Wundke at 36, 46 or even 62, but will he get drafted?



Stantons a guy that has me confused a bit. He appears to find space well and has time to use it but is seriously lacking in intensity. His skills are pretty solid and has an AFL type body ( size & weight ). Goes missing way too much for mine, however he seemed to step it up a little in the finals.

I doubt Wundke would be on many radars.

[TheGeneral]

Stanton sounds promising.

But it sounds like he'll get snapped up before our second pick. :(

[TGR]

Stanton sounds promising.

But it sounds like he'll get snapped up before our second pick. :(



Don't be surprised if he's available and that we pass on him. His intensity is a real concern for the AFL ranks IMO.

[TOA.]

AFAIK Collard, Connors and O'Brien fell due to question marks over their committment and/or character flaws. Maric doesn't seem to have the same question marks, in fact from what I've heard he is of great character. I suspsect where he is taken you will not so much say he slid but given his likely role and position at AFL level that around the 20-25 mark is about where you would expect. If he does slide any further then I think it will just be a matter of a few clubs picking talls for need.

Agreed Gilly.

Alot of 'hobby draft followers' (incl myself) had O'Brien and Collard going highly, and I think that was justified. O'Brien will be a player for Freo, very good debut game in R22. Collard was very good at South Freo in the first half of the year until his off field problems got the better of him.

On ability, they were worthy of top 20 like alot of us had them. We just werent privy to the very big question marks AFL clubs had hanging on their heads through their interviews and background checks.

So long as Maric doesnt mind integrating into an AFL club (ie talk to ppl), isnt prone to punching teamates, is willing to actually train with the main squad, does have a half stable family/education etc, he will be fine and go relatively early, especially in this draft. Bottom age kids with his talent dont fall into the 30s in this kind of draft without 'issues'.

Also cant see Dangerfield lasting til 36 either. Actually, I struggle to see him getting past 20. Maric could slide alittle further for the reasons HBF pointed out (almost exclusively forward this year etc).

[Gilly1972]

Stantons a guy that has me confused a bit. He appears to find space well and has time to use it but is seriously lacking in intensity. His skills are pretty solid and has an AFL type body ( size & weight ). Goes missing way too much for mine, however he seemed to step it up a little in the finals.

I doubt Wundke would be on many radars.

I 100% agree, and that's why I said 46 and not 36....for mine 36 is for a surer bet but he might be worth a shot at #46....the only thing which makes me think he might be worth a stab (depsite his intensity) is that he is bottom aged and that lanky 190-1 body type. I just wonder if the intensity is a mental concentration issue or a lack of confidence about putting his body on the line. Having said that he is probably a less polished version of Grigga although to my eye he looks like he might be a slightly better athlete. Would be interested to see how he tested, anybody know if he was DC or state screening?

I wouldn't be surprised if Stanton is bit of a Trevor woodhouse special....he seems to like those tall athletic running types (Schofield, Houlihan - although they are probably more endurance athletes) and give them time to develop in the WAFL.

[HBF]

I'd be very happy with Stanton at 36 if he was available.

Gilly and HBF are you going to be posting a top 50 or something similar?

I will be, but not for another couple of weeks.
Won't be top 50 as such. More of a mock draft. It's already done, but it may need some tinkering.

[HBF]

Stantons a guy that has me confused a bit. He appears to find space well and has time to use it but is seriously lacking in intensity. His skills are pretty solid and has an AFL type body ( size & weight ). Goes missing way too much for mine, however he seemed to step it up a little in the finals.


Didn't pay much attention to Stanton, but isn't he a bit outside as well?

[TGR]

Didn't pay much attention to Stanton, but isn't he a bit outside as well?


yep, but once again come finals seemed to improve in this area.

[HBF]

yep, but once again come finals seemed to improve in this area.

Thanks for that.
That'll teach me for following Cotchin and Kreuzer too closely. :rolleyes:

[TGR]

Thanks for that.
That'll teach me for following Cotchin and Kreuzer too closely. :rolleyes:



I still wouldn't use a top 50 pick on him. But yes he could easily be lost watching the Kreuzer, Cotchin show.

[HBF]

I still wouldn't use a top 50 pick on him. But yes he could easily be lost watching the Kreuzer, Cotchin show.

Neither would I.

[Gilly1972]

I'd be very happy with Stanton at 36 if he was available.

Gilly and HBF are you going to be posting a top 50 or something similar?

Apologies in advance.....I'm not going to put up anything. I think mock drafts are bit of a "mugs" game, too hard to predict what 16 RM's are thinking and you get one wrong early and the rest of your picks are basically going to be out. I would keep an eye on the "official" BF phantom draft, as you get 16 different hobbyists who have basically seen a fair bit of the kids representing each club...is usually worth a look. I will have a top 50 list but for a few reasons I am not all that keen to post that either. What I am happy to do is offer some comments based on what I've seen this year where appropriate and I'm happy to answer any questions that people have.

[Gilly1972]

I still wouldn't use a top 50 pick on him. But yes he could easily be lost watching the Kreuzer, Cotchin show.

Like I said, he's bottom aged and if he puts in the work required he might develop some more grunt when he fills out. Wouldn't be surprised if he is a late bloomer and comes and bites a few on the behind and becomes a "top 50" selection. The main problem I would have with us taking him is we already have the better version in Grigga :)

[TheGeneral]

Stupid question time. ;)

Do we have to use ALL these picks in the national draft when you take into account our delistings, trades and pick two in the PSD? :confused:

How many vacancies do we have on our list at this point in time?

Out:Flint, Whitnall, Raso, Teague, Mclaren, Kennedy
In: Judd - :), Hadley :)

Have I forgotten any delisted players? :confused:

I'm guessing we won't use pick 62 in the PSD and we only use the minimum three picks unless we delist a Saddington, Wiggins or Bannister.

That's sure to make everyone happy. ;)

[Blues08]

I go to school with stanton, he used to be a basketballer fantastic and both basketball and footy playing state basketball, chose footy over basketball and was at AIS. i dont believe he was at DC, he is a very athletic player with a great build..

[blaisee]

gilly ,

waht do you think of dangerfield?

do you reckon he will be available at pick 18?

[Gilly1972]

gilly ,

waht do you think of dangerfield?

do you reckon he will be available at pick 18?

I am bit of a fan of Dangerfield. Is bottom aged but has a good size for a med def/mid and plays a bit taller than that and with a bit of grunt and confidence.....athletically he is probably iin the in the top 15% in the draft. Charges the ball out of defense at a great rate of knots, but what he does with it will either have you in raptures or wishing you had never drafted him!!

So obviously two aspects of his game that need work are decision making and disposal.....two things that can be worked on to a degree and if he gets those right he will be a beauty.

Just as an aside you will often see him go on a 30-40m run alternating bouncing the ball between his left and right hands, really quite a sight!


I think he will be there at #18 if Richmond are interested.

As a comparison you could look at somebody like a Selwood, who isn't quite as athletic or quick but will provide the same sort of grunt across HB, a more sound footy brain and won't do the spectacular, but won't turn the ball over as often either.

[HBF]

I am bit of a fan of Dangerfield. Is bottom aged but has a good size for a med def/mid and plays a bit taller than that and with a bit of grunt and confidence.....athletically he is probably iin the in the top 15% in the draft. Charges the ball out of defense at a great rate of knots, but what he does with it will either have you in raptures or wishing you had never drafted him!!


And this is why I think Patty might slide a bit in this years draft. You are spot on Gilly with this assesment. How many times have we seen him butcher the ball when he is in space.

Another guy I rate who uses the ball much better of half back is Jackson Hall. Just a very clean footballer who just seems to have time on his side every time he has it.

[Salt Lake Cities]

Just a little theory on why the blues may draft one T.Cotchin with pick 1. During our judd dealings we were always confident of keeping the above mentioned pick and, while never seeming 2 confirm so ourselves, let the media run with the Kreuzer to Carlton theme. With West Coast maybe keen on Cotchin according to some people and ninthmond getting Cale Mortons bro in trade week, just thinking it may of been our intention 2 let others think we wanted Kreuzer when really its the other guy we want?? This isnt an opinion on who we should take, merely an observation that may prove to be well wrong! (am new round here im guessing a bloke by the name Gilly would have his day/life made if it did actually go this way)
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[HBF]

Just a little theory on why the blues may draft one T.Cotchin with pick 1. During our judd dealings we were always confident of keeping the above mentioned pick and, while never seeming 2 confirm so ourselves, let the media run with the Kreuzer to Carlton theme. With West Coast maybe keen on Cotchin according to some people and ninthmond getting Cale Mortons bro in trade week, just thinking it may of been our intention 2 let others think we wanted Kreuzer when really its the other guy we want?? This isnt an opinion on who we should take, merely an observation that may prove to be well wrong! (am new round here im guessing a bloke by the name Gilly would have his day/life made if it did actually go this way);)

Getting Kruezer would also give us alot more flexibility with our talls than if we didn't get him. For instance, we can use Ackland/Cloke and Hampson in the ruck, with backup from Aisake whilst Kreuzer develops with the Bullants. It also means that we can use Carlos at FB, and hope that Austin and Jamison come on as well, which means that Carlos could end up being a 200cm utility that we could play anywhere up the spine. Ideally, he could replace Thornton at CHB in a couple of years time, finally allowing T-Brid to move out onto a flank where he is more comfortable.