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Now whether you think it's a waste to pick up recycled players or not...of any the players that may be available in particular who do you think Brisbane could benefit from picking up? Who would be the best pickup? How would you rank them? Got the delistments below from another thread. Not sure if this is all up to date so let us know the who i've missed. Haven't included all the rookies.
Ade: Torney, Perrie, Bode, Hinge, Pfeiffer, Welsh
Bris: Allan, Fixter, Garner
Carl: Whitnall, Teague, Raso, Flint, McLaren
Coll: Richards
Ess: Bradley, Johnson, Cole
Freo: Walker, Collard, Mourish, Haddrill, Dunn
Geel: Spencer, Owen, S Hunt
Haw: Little, Thurgood
Kang: Urch, McConnell, Whyman,
Mel: Ferguson
Port:
Rich: Krakouer, Hartigan, Bowden, Peterson
Stk: Watts, Brooks, Raymond, Sweeney, McQualter
Syd: Doyle, Phillips, Vogels, Simkin
WCE: Cousins, Chick, Sampi
WB: Walsh, Faulkner, Baird, McCormac.
Updated again for Welsh.
notting18
22 Oct 2007, 21:58
Ade: Torney, Perrie, Bode, Hinge, Pfeiffer,
Bris: Allan, Fixter
Carl: Whitnall, Teague, Raso, Flint, McLaren
Coll: Richards
Ess: Bradley, Johnson
Freo: Walker, Collard, Mourish, Haddrill, Dunn
Geel: Spencer, Owen, Hunt
Haw: Little, Thurgood
Kang: Urch, McConnell, Whyman,
Mel: Ferguson
Port:
Rich: Krakouer, Hartigan, Bowden
Stk: Watts, Brooks, Raymond, Sweeney
Syd: Doyle, Phillips, Vogels, Simkin
WCE: Cousins, Chick
WB: Walsh, Faulkner, Baird, McCormac.
The bolded ones are the ones i would give a second look too IMO, although Rookie is more likely than PSD
TheDodgers
22 Oct 2007, 21:58
There is only 2 players there that catch my attention. Cousins if he can clean up his act, but won't happen to much of a risk plus we already have a super midfield, and Josh Hunt good build, and has a beautiful left foot kinda like Drummond's. Could play a role similar to Jason Roe, and we do need some experience in our Backline.
sackofballs
22 Oct 2007, 22:00
There is only 2 players there that catch my attention. Cousins if he can clean up his act, but won't happen to much of a risk plus we already have a super midfield, and Josh Hunt good build, and has a beautiful left foot kinda like Drummond's. Could play a role similar to Jason Roe, and we do need some experience in our Backline.
its actually sam hunt that got delisted by geelong not josh
Grimreepah
22 Oct 2007, 22:01
Fremantle have asked the AFL for Collard, Mourish and Dunn to be able to continue training at Freo. I can't see the point of delisting someone and picking them up in the PSD, so I presume they will be nominating for the national draft.
BigCat2
22 Oct 2007, 22:03
It's Sam Hunt that's been delisted not Josh Hunt, I've been told.
Edit: too slow, see sackofballs' post above.
Sherminator.
22 Oct 2007, 22:14
Now whether you think it's a waste to pick up recycled players or not...of any the players that may be available in particular who do you think Brisbane could benefit from picking up? Who would be the best pickup? How would you rank them? Got the delistments below from another thread. Not sure if this is all up to date so let us know the who i've missed. Haven't included all the rookies.
Ade: Torney, Perrie, Bode, Hinge, Pfeiffer,
Bris: Allan, Fixter
Carl: Whitnall, Teague, Raso, Flint, McLaren
Coll: Richards
Ess: Bradley, Johnson
Freo: Walker, Collard, Mourish, Haddrill, Dunn
Geel: Spencer, Owen, S Hunt
Haw: Little, Thurgood
Kang: Urch, McConnell, Whyman,
Mel: Ferguson
Port:
Rich: Krakouer, Hartigan, Bowden
Stk: Watts, Brooks, Raymond, Sweeney
Syd: Doyle, Phillips, Vogels, Simkin
WCE: Cousins, Chick
WB: Walsh, Faulkner, Baird, McCormac.
Bolded ones are the ones I am interested in. Collard is strang de-listment. He has silky skills and is a great mark, could be a future midfielder. Brisbane should grab him!
lionbear
22 Oct 2007, 22:16
Don't know why but I have a gut feeling on Vogels from Sydney.
Don't know why but I have a gut feeling on Vogels from Sydney.
Was wondering if anyone else was thinking of this bloke lionbear. Admittedly i've only probably seen 1 or 2 games out of the very little his played, but you wonder if he wouldn't be a handy rookie pickup, although maybe too old.
Hilly72
22 Oct 2007, 22:23
Teague seemed a pretty courageous backman before disappearing off the radar this year.
The Flying Belgian
22 Oct 2007, 22:30
On ability/potential I'd look at Pfeiffer, Collard, Dunn, Hartigan, Krakouer and Watts. Of course there's most likely mitigating circumstances in each case that would have to be dealt with e.g. behavioural problems, injuries.
I've said it before, the PSD is 99% full of duds and wankers.
ANd I wonder is anyone else had thought of the potential of Perrie as a backman?
Warwick
22 Oct 2007, 23:33
ANd I wonder is anyone else had thought of the potential of Perrie as a backman?
Oh yuck, Snuka. Please tell me you are joking? Same goes for Teague and Hartigan (of those players already suggested).
The only 2 players I would seriously consider from that list are Dunn and Bradley (if Brennan goes - if not, no).
Clubs wouldn't delist guys from the superdraft last year unless there was something seriously wrong with them. And Fremantle have the oldest list in the league as well.
The rest of the players are too old, too crap, or nuts (i.e. Cousins).
Fair enough Warwick, although I think your pretty quick to judge. It's not like we haven't seen one club's trash become another's treasure before.
From that group, Perrie stands out for me & if he still wanted to play footy without demanding too much money, could be a worthwhile pickup.
Grimreepah
23 Oct 2007, 00:32
Clubs wouldn't delist guys from the superdraft last year unless there was something seriously wrong with them.
Collard must have been delisted because of off-field issues, because he was very highly rated as a footballer. I just don't see how someone of that ability can be considered a write off after your first year. Gee, if we were all judged on what we were like as 18 year olds...:eek:
Dylan12
23 Oct 2007, 01:03
For mine when it comes to PSD - one rule - essentially must be able to fit into our best 22 - that list contains absolutely no-one the club would take, especially if Brennan stays.
Why would we want Collard - Hooper is 10 times better.
What about backman? We don't need Perrie/Bradley - We have Roe, Patfull, Drummond, Merrett, Tyler and can throw Clarke/Bradshaw/Brennan as pinch hitting defenders.
I have said it before, we don't need any recycled players; period, unless of quality of TJ - who we got - all i am thinking is another Marty McKinnon, David Calthorpe, Mick Martin, Stefan Carey etc - seriously guys, we have a great squad and should only add youth to it, criticise me all you want but if we don't lose Brennan - guarantee we will NOT particpate in the PSD.
JasRulz63
23 Oct 2007, 09:05
IMO though, picking up Collard is like picking up a player in the national draft, his only 18 atm.
Bobby Beecroft
23 Oct 2007, 09:08
For mine when it comes to PSD - one rule - essentially must be able to fit into our best 22 - that list contains absolutely no-one the club would take, especially if Brennan stays.
Why would we want Collard - Hooper is 10 times better.
Don't like your rule at all.
If that was used across the board we would never elevate anyone from the rookie list to the senior list, as they may not be in our best 22. Players such as Roe, & Drummond that you use as a counter argument would not even be on our list by that theory. If the chance is there to pick-up an overlooked/cut youngster with potential, then I certainly don't have a problem with that in the PSD.
I would agree with others on what I saw last season in the U18 Champs Collard is the strange one. Must be off-field/committment issues.
Hooper & Collard are quite different players. Hooper is more explosive where as Collard is a midfield accumulator.
Dyslexic Emo
23 Oct 2007, 09:44
Fremantle have asked the AFL for Collard, Mourish and Dunn to be able to continue training at Freo. I can't see the point of delisting someone and picking them up in the PSD, so I presume they will be nominating for the national draft.
I'll think you'll find that we want to put them into the rookie list and elevate a few of or rookies. thats all. not that we can do that with dunn i odn't think as he has played a few too many games and or is a bit too old but yeah I was a bit surprised to see our delistings as well.
The Flying Belgian
23 Oct 2007, 10:01
I'll think you'll find that we want to put them into the rookie list and elevate a few of or rookies. thats all. not that we can do that with dunn i odn't think as he has played a few too many games and or is a bit too old but yeah I was a bit surprised to see our delistings as well.
To nominate for the rookie draft you also have to nominate for the PSD and you run the risk of them being picked up by another club. There a bit of a gentlemen's agreement between clubs that if a player has had a long-term injury that club will be able to take them in the rookie draft, but in the case of Collard and Mourish where it seems to be attitude-based it will most likely be open slather.
Dyslexic Emo
23 Oct 2007, 10:06
To nominate for the rookie draft you also have to nominate for the PSD and you run the risk of them being picked up by another club. There a bit of a gentlemen's agreement between clubs that if a player has had a long-term injury that club will be able to take them in the rookie draft, but in the case of Collard and Mourish where it seems to be attitude-based it will most likely be open slather.
So do you reckon Dunn would fall under this category of long term injured having only played 5 games in 4 years? or not really? chers for the info however:thumbsu:
The Flying Belgian
23 Oct 2007, 10:39
So do you reckon Dunn would fall under this category of long term injured having only played 5 games in 4 years? or not really? chers for the info however:thumbsu:
I believe it's an age thing. Can't remember whether it's 22 or 23 though.
If that was used across the board we would never elevate anyone from the rookie list to the senior list, as they may not be in our best 22.
Agree Bobby. Despite what is being said by some, we didn't take Benny Fixter on the basis that we wanted someone to fill a spot on our list for 2 years while our young guys developed. We took him because he had shown at various points that he could play a role in an AFL side. He didn't quite cut it but he came very close at stages to cementing a spot in our side. Contrast with Joel Patfull who, at stages, looked just as unlikely to be able to find his feet in senior footy but has since come on as a decent defender.
When you have a need in your side and there is a player out there who could fit that need, then it stands to reason that you should consider signing him up. Almost all delisted players are simply not good enough. Occasionally though, there are a few that were squeezed out for reasons other their their talent/performance. Finding the right one is the tricky part.
I also don't agree that our list is OK now and that an injection of an experienced player wouldn't help things. It is a good list if the player development continues on pace. As an optimist supporter, I believe that our players will improve again next year which will get us into finals footy.
But the realist in me recognises that our list has deficiencies, both in depth and in experience. I see those deficiencies in all areas - forward, mid, back and ruck. We all assume that our forward woes will be overcome by Braddy's return. Many people also have Braddy as our key defensive back up. A lot is riding on a bloke returning from a knee reco. This is just one example of where, as supporters, we tend to hope for the best.
The coaching staff will (hopefully) have in place better contingency plans which will allow them to recognise where there is a weakness. FWIW, I would not oppose the recruitment of an experienced tall, under the right conditions because I believe we are very fragile at both ends of the ground.
GiveGasTheFlick
23 Oct 2007, 13:24
There is only 2 players there that catch my attention. Cousins if he can clean up his act, but won't happen to much of a risk plus we already have a super midfield, and Josh Hunt good build, and has a beautiful left foot kinda like Drummond's. Could play a role similar to Jason Roe, and we do need some experience in our Backline.Has Brennan signed up yet
Junior55
23 Oct 2007, 13:56
I believe it's an age thing. Can't remember whether it's 22 or 23 though.
I believe Dunn can be rookied as well.
Dylan12
23 Oct 2007, 14:35
Don't like your rule at all.
If that was used across the board we would never elevate anyone from the rookie list to the senior list, as they may not be in our best 22. Players such as Roe, & Drummond that you use as a counter argument would not even be on our list by that theory. If the chance is there to pick-up an overlooked/cut youngster with potential, then I certainly don't have a problem with that in the PSD.
I would agree with others on what I saw last season in the U18 Champs Collard is the strange one. Must be off-field/committment issues.
Hooper & Collard are quite different players. Hooper is more explosive where as Collard is a midfield accumulator.
I agree what you are saying - maybe i confused myself - the point i was trying to make poorly is that we shouldn't necessary recruit an older player for coverage if it hinders the development of our kids - but you are right if a kid has been delisted and he is under 21 - then all for it - i was more alluding to those 25+ age players in the PSD because i think we have a good core of 32 players that we wouldn't need to recruit them at the expense of developing the kids for a few games here and there.:thumbsu:
talent and potential wise, pfeiffer, collard and dunn would be head and shoulders above most in that list.
Pfeiffer unfortunately has had a few off field issues which led to his delistment but wondering if that may be the kick up the bum needed for him to focus. If you could get to focus, talent to burn.
Dunn is still approxiamtely 21, maybe 22 - we do forget sometimes that even though guys may have been on the list for 3-4 years they can still be quite young.
I'd be happy to take a punt on any of those three as the pre-season draft and drafts generally are just calculated risks.
beatnik
23 Oct 2007, 21:43
i have sometimes wondered whether we could use the 'frontier' state to our advantage
we have seen many examples of it working to our disadvantage - buckley, headland, murphy, hadley...and every player manager who ever negotiated a contract with lions!!
certain players with off-field issues might actually benefit from being in a state where you are just as likely to go unrecognised as be spotted - combined with the inspiration of a legend of the game as the club's patriach, leaving the fishbowl of Melbourne, Perth or Adelaide could be just what a stray talent needs...it certainly had a positive effect on media-shy Sydney spearhead, Tony Lockett
for the younger guys, it's possible that some anonymity after a couple of highly-publicised stuff-ups (which any 18-20-year-old might make) could assist them in getting their priorities in order
what if the club committed itself to picking up one second-chance player per season? one-year contracts only - those who perform get a longer contract; those that don't start looking for their third chance elsewhere
the success stories might make Queensland seem like the AFL's Foreign Legion - an anonymous second-chance haven for determined underachievers with their backs against the wall or those not entirely comfortable with the celebrity footballer atmosphere of the AFL states
consider the upside of recent second-chance or non-drafted players - could anyone argue against persisting with Rhan when he was struggling to adjust? what about Roe, Patfull, Still and Drumond? they all came to the Lions via an alternate route than the National Draft because they matured a little later than many...
...so why would it be such a stretch to think that Collard could mature greatly after a year or two with Leigh Matthews and Chris Johnson?
:cool:
Sherminator.
23 Oct 2007, 21:52
Collard would be a fine replacement for the Notting in 3 seasons if he can get everything right (I dont know what could be wrong).
Dylan12
23 Oct 2007, 22:10
Really good points Beatnik about those type of players escaping the limelight, especially a Collard who would be unrecognisable in QLD, that is not to say I would go for him, because I haven't seen enough of him, but if he is up to it - Beatnik's logic with Leigh/Johnno is spot on:thumbsu:
Grimreepah
25 Oct 2007, 03:02
Link (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22643485-5012432,00.html)
Matthews said salary-cap restrictions would prevent the club from taking part in the pre-season draft
Unhappy Eagle looks for second chance
Craig O'Donoghue, Perth | October 31, 2007
UNHAPPY Eagle Ashley Sampi has revealed he had overcome depression after walking away from football earlier this year and is prepared to play for minimum wage next season in an attempt to resume his AFL career.
Sampi's manager Anthony van der Wielen will ask Melbourne-based clubs today to allow the 23-year-old to train with them during the pre-season after yesterday telling West Coast that Sampi wanted to move interstate. The former No. 6 draft pick is so determined for a change in lifestyle that he has discussed moving to Queensland if he doesn't get an AFL lifeline.
A series of off-field problems plagued Sampi in recent years and his 78-game career appeared over after he moved to Broome in June following the death of his cousin.
While clubs contacted yesterday indicated they would be reluctant to draft Sampi, van der Wielen said they would have to consider a former top-10 pick who was prepared to play for only $56,000, plus $2400 a game.
"He'll nominate for the national draft and he's prepared to play for minimum wage. That's about $10,000 more than a third- or fourth-round draft pick," van der Wielen said.
Sampi has eaten mainly fish and rice since moving to Broome and worked on improving his fitness. He said that despite being away from an AFL environment, his weight had remained steady at 83 in recent months, only four kilograms over his playing weight from 2004.
Sampi admitted he had plenty of work to do but was confident that a full pre-season would return him to peak fitness.
The small forward joined West Coast as a midfielder and said wanted to play across half-back or on the wing next year. He promised clubs they would get a different player to the one they'd seen in the recent years.
"It's been a while (since I've been this happy)," Sampi said. "I spoke to Woosh today and he said the same thing. Being at home, has brought me back to the natural person I was. I feel great. I was depressed. I had depression from my relationship and that was all my doing.
"I got a hold of it but the death of my cousin brought me back down even further than what I was. It was hard when outside of footy, everything was bad and I took it into footy. That stopped me in my tracks.
"If I'd stayed on, it would have been like that all year and I would have hung up the boots. I'm happy and want to be on the footy field. I want to show more of the excitement than I could before."
Sampi said he had planned his decision to leave the Eagles carefully. He had been scheduled to complete a fitness test at the club yesterday so they could decide whether to delist him or offer him another contract. But after discussions with his family, Sampi said it was apparent that his life would improve if he moved interstate.
"I'll be over there by myself. There won't be any family or friends or anybody that knows you. When they're around, you want to get out and about, whereas in Melbourne, it'll take time to find friends and it'll be easier to say no to things," he explained. "My family have told me to get away from Perth as well.""I'm only 23 and I have plenty to offer."
WEST AUSTRALIAN
Geez Ash, there's a club up in Queensland you know!!
I'm not sure if Ashley Sampi has already been discussed (or where), but at minimum wage I think he would be a steal. Obviously few issues, but a new environment might be all he need... thoughts?
notting18
31 Oct 2007, 13:31
Sampi isn't worth a PSD pick at all IMO, especially as we are highly likely to sit out the PSD.
Although if he does move to QLD and gets his football/life together playing up here, it may be something worth looking at next year....but that is a big IF.
Pass on Sampi. Maybe if he turned up to our training in 2 weeks time having record low skin folds. In other words, no chance.
Dylan12
31 Oct 2007, 13:54
With McGrath, Corrie, Proud we do not need an overweight and lazy player joining our ranks - i mean seriously that is a stupid suggestion we go for him - even on minimum wage:thumbsd:
TheBrownDog
31 Oct 2007, 14:46
Don't need you Samps.
Good luck though.
With McGrath, Corrie, Proud we do not need an overweight and lazy player joining our ranks - i mean seriously that is a stupid suggestion we go for him - even on minimum wage:thumbsd:
I agree that we shouldn't be chasing Sampi but its not a stupid suggestion. There's talent hidden away with Sampi and we still don't have a genuine, goal kicking crumber of his type.
Of the players that you refer to, McGrath played as a marking, leading type and then switched to a defensive role in the midfield to reasonable effect. He's rarely been a freaky crumbing type. I am almost certain that Corrie will play no further forward than the HF line - in fact, I think he looks set to be a midfielder or half back flanker. As far as Proud goes, he could end up being a specialist small forward, small defender, wing, ruck rover.....can hardly pencil him in as a regular goal kicker. Hooper is the closest on our list but even then, he played his best footy this year pushing up the ground and then following the ball inside 50. He wasn't really a "front and centre" goal sneak.
I would argue that we have no-one on our list that could play the way Sampi does when he's fit and firing.
There are a lot of reasons why we wouldn't want to sign Sampi but calling it a stupid suggestion is going a bit too far. My biggest question would be to ask who is going to be cut from our present list to make way for Sampi - and I wouldn't cut any.
I wouldn't cut anyone either, interestingly the final list lodgements were released today, and the Lions only to delist only Fixter and Allan. No news yet on Begley's elevation, and there was rumour (or perhaps just suggestion) that Garner would be 'rookied'. However that wasn't the case, so maybe they're hoping Garner might play a game in the best 22 next year? Supposedly a big half back/full back sort of player, weren't we in need of one of those? 'Patfull's too small, Roe is a rebounder'. Who knows!
And concerning Sampi I still think it's worth a look into, he's only 23, adds MORE speed, and we know he can take a mark :p
He may not be in our 'best 22', but it would still add to ourdepth, and we don't have to give a lot for him really.
beatnik
31 Oct 2007, 22:27
i saw footage of him on the training track earlier this week and he has a way to go yet before he's at his optimum weight
he definitely has the natural talent to get genuine interest from most clubs but it's no secret the question mark will be over his off-field reliability
i think he'd be lucky to get picked up in the PSD to be honest - perhaps Port Adelaide might back their recent record with recycled players?
if not, Sampi will miss out and, apparently, consider a move to Brisbane which could provide a low-risk opportunity for us to rescue a stray talent
how's this for a plan? i'd offer Sampi a development and/or cultural liaison role with the club - the goal would be to first help him to find a balance in his personal life
it might also involve some assistance in relocating and some mentoring from someone like CJ and some support from Lamby and his family (who reportedly have a glowing record of supporting the young interstaters)
i'd encourage an AQFL club (why not Suncoast Lions?) to take a chance on Sampi and watch him closely throughout the season - i'd get him to particpate with the Lions in certain training sessions and club functions - enough to help him get to know the players and the club but still have something to work towards
if he managed a season of playing AFLQ and holding down a job, i think he'd have proven he was settled enough to be well worth the risk of a second crack
good luck to him if another club thinks otherwise and gives him a crack in the PSD for next year but i personally wouldn't like the Lions to take that chance with a list spot until he's proven himself in a second-tier comp
either way, good luck Ash :thumbsu:
i saw footage of him on the training track earlier this week and he has a way to go yet before he's at his optimum weight
he definitely has the natural talent to get genuine interest from most clubs but it's no secret the question mark will be over his off-field reliability
i think he'd be lucky to get picked up in the PSD to be honest - perhaps Port Adelaide might back their recent record with recycled players?
if not, Sampi will miss out and, apparently, consider a move to Brisbane which could provide a low-risk opportunity for us to rescue a stray talent
how's this for a plan? i'd offer Sampi a development and/or cultural liaison role with the club - the goal would be to first help him to find a balance in his personal life
it might also involve some assistance in relocating and some mentoring from someone like CJ and some support from Lamby and his family (who reportedly have a glowing record of supporting the young interstaters)
i'd encourage an AQFL club (why not Suncoast Lions?) to take a chance on Sampi and watch him closely throughout the season - i'd get him to particpate with the Lions in certain training sessions and club functions - enough to help him get to know the players and the club but still have something to work towards
if he managed a season of playing AFLQ and holding down a job, i think he'd have proven he was settled enough to be well worth the risk of a second crack
good luck to him if another club thinks otherwise and gives him a crack in the PSD for next year but i personally wouldn't like the Lions to take that chance with a list spot until he's proven himself in a second-tier comp
either way, good luck Ash :thumbsu:
nail head hit
Sherminator.
5 Nov 2007, 15:17
Howat was delisted by Tiggers. What's peoples thoughts on him? I didn't think there was much wrong with him.
I thought he looked alright too.
Howat is a great runner, he carries the ball well, his disposal and contested posession isn't great, he would be worth a punt as a rookie to see if he can lift in those areas.
TheBrownDog
5 Nov 2007, 17:02
Could be worth a punt.
Its not like Richmond have the best record in assessing the talent of their list come delistment time.
*cough* Rodan *cough*
Sherminator.
5 Nov 2007, 18:54
I laughed out loud.
The Flying Belgian
5 Nov 2007, 20:31
On the other hand if you're delisted from Richmond there'd have to be a warning bell. Howat has never impressed me greatly.
Grimreepah
13 Nov 2007, 12:31
Scott Welsh (http://www.afc.com.au/Default.aspx?tabid=4417&newsId=53194) - going to Richmond?
Lace Out
13 Nov 2007, 13:04
Scott Welsh (http://www.afc.com.au/Default.aspx?tabid=4417&newsId=53194) - going to Richmond?
Wouldn't surprise me.
After all,Pfeiffer is training with them.
The Flying Belgian
13 Nov 2007, 13:19
Wouldn't surprise me.
After all,Pfeiffer is training with them.
That would mean they'd have to choose between the two. Hmmm, young player with off-field dramas vs. old player with off-field dramas. Know who I'd be taking.
Lets Roar like '44
13 Nov 2007, 15:46
If Welsh is still available by the 3rd round we should go after him, this would free up Bradshaw to play both ends, or possibly have all three kicking goals, and we are lacking a true CHB, at least we wouldn't have to put up with Welsh always firing against us!
Probably go to Carl anyway they have every other recycled player.
roostersgal4eva
14 Nov 2007, 15:49
^^^^^ - good idea at first glance
Oh btw Stuart Dew has entered the PSD.....Interesting?
blueheart
14 Nov 2007, 16:05
If Welsh is still available by the 3rd round we should go after him, this would free up Bradshaw to play both ends, or possibly have all three kicking goals, and we are lacking a true CHB, at least we wouldn't have to put up with Welsh always firing against us!
Probably go to Carl anyway they have every other recycled player.
Yep Judd, Stevens and Hadley to name a few:eek:
We are shattered about that:o
Warwick
14 Nov 2007, 16:07
Scott Welsh isn't a key position player - he would not free up Bradshaw.
Stuart Dew would come in handy if the pitch roller broke down at the Gabba.
Yep Judd, Stevens and Hadley to name a few:eek:
We are shattered about that:o
I don't think you understand what recycled means in a footy context. If Judd is considered recycling, then put my vote down for the Greens.
Fairley
14 Nov 2007, 16:09
As if we would ever get Welsh, god, thats so stupid.
Scott Welsh isn't a key position player - he would not free up Bradshaw.
Welsh would not be a bad addition to our side.....for the 10 games a year he plays. IMO, our side is crying out for a clever small or medium forward which is what Welsh is. As you said, he's not going to hold down full forward in a Bradshaw-esque fashion. But the age, injury history and behavioural concerns outweigh his performance.
I'd rather take a 1 in 10 chance that we'll pick up a Rischitelli or Patfull at the lower end of the draft than take a player like Welsh.
Fairley
14 Nov 2007, 16:15
if welsh gets to the bulldogs in psd they will take him for sure
roostersgal4eva
14 Nov 2007, 16:22
Scott Welsh isn't a key position player - he would not free up Bradshaw.
Stuart Dew would come in handy if the pitch roller broke down at the Gabba.
oh thats nice :rolleyes: - S Dew is a tallent if used right......leigh does that better than anyone
Warwick
14 Nov 2007, 16:28
oh thats nice :rolleyes: - S Dew is a tallent if used right......leigh does that better than anyone
He is an oompa lompa and has been out of the game for a year or two.
If he didn't drink West End and enjoy pie floaters, I doubt his name would have been mentioned.
blueheart
14 Nov 2007, 16:29
I don't think you understand what recycled means in a footy context. If Judd is considered recycling, then put my vote down for the Greens.
Yep pretty sure I know what it means:
A player that has been delisted by his former club then drafted by his new club. The only player that meets this criteria on our list is Cameron Cloke!
Not sure whether Andrew Carrazzo qualifies after being a former Geelong rookie but since he wasn't on their primary list he is not classed as recycled in my view.
I was just replying to the original poster who mentioned every recycled player seems to be at Carlton:rolleyes:
roostersgal4eva
14 Nov 2007, 16:46
He is an oompa lompa and has been out of the game for a year or two.
If he didn't drink West End and enjoy pie floaters, I doubt his name would have been mentioned.
whatever....
Ive learned to never aruge with an idiot - they drag you down and beat you with experiance
notting18
14 Nov 2007, 17:35
oh thats nice :rolleyes: - S Dew is a tallent if used right......leigh does that better than anyone
Dew has talent but its hidden underneath a layer of fat and commitment issues. If we are going to pick up Dew, why not also pick up Whitnall?;)
Grimreepah
14 Nov 2007, 17:35
whatever....
Ive learned to never aruge with an idiot - they drag you down and beat you with experiance
Settle down roosters. It's no secret that Dew put on a fair bit of weight after he retired.
The Flying Belgian
14 Nov 2007, 18:34
He is an oompa lompa and has been out of the game for a year or two.
If he didn't drink West End and enjoy pie floaters, I doubt his name would have been mentioned.
whatever....
Ive learned to never aruge with an idiot - they drag you down and beat you with experiance
Keep your tongues, both of you.
TheBrownDog
14 Nov 2007, 18:57
Not keen on our club becoming a retirement home for washed up players, (even if they are from South Australia).
Got enough of that crap in the early days of the Bears.
Bobby Beecroft
14 Nov 2007, 19:08
Common knowledge that we aren't participtaing unless Ive missed something to the contrary.
Given that I can't really see why people are getting so fired up here.
Saw Clark Keating's name in the PSD nominations. Maybe we could rookie him. :)
TheBrownDog
14 Nov 2007, 20:11
Saw Clark Keating's name in the PSD nominations. Maybe we could rookie him. :)
Serious? Crackers is going in the draft?
notting18
14 Nov 2007, 20:19
Serious? Crackers is going in the draft?
If you nominate, you nominate for a few years. As he nominated last year, he is technically still on the list - but so are Ben Hart, Andrew Kellaway, etc
TheBrownDog
14 Nov 2007, 20:21
If you nominate, you nominate for a few years. As he nominated last year, he is technically still on the list - but so are Ben Hart, Andrew Kellaway, etc
Ahh fair enough.
Would be funny if he got drafted.
I'd have an instant second-team.
beatnik
14 Nov 2007, 22:23
Ive learned to never aruge with an idiot - they drag you down and beat you with experiance
isn't that someone else's signature? (minus the literals of course ;))
notting18
15 Nov 2007, 09:29
Ahh fair enough.
Would be funny if he got drafted.
I'd have an instant second-team.
Yeah but we would lose a Ruck coach;) haha
Warwick
15 Nov 2007, 09:36
Yep, you stay nominated for a few years.
That's why there are a few doozies in the list of nominations:
Excel spreadsheet 1290 players (http://www.afl.com.au/Portals/0/afl_docs/07draftnoms14-11_07.xls)
Sherminator.
21 Nov 2007, 15:57
Gherig anyone? Braddles CHB, G-Train FF :D
Grimreepah
21 Nov 2007, 19:15
Gherig anyone? Braddles CHB, G-Train FF :D
Apparently the Saints want him back, so maybe the gentlemanly agreement will allow them to pick him up.
Bobby Beecroft
21 Nov 2007, 19:29
Apparently the Saints want him back, so maybe the gentlemanly agreement will allow them to pick him up.
Will only play for the Saints.
Anyone else would be wasting time even trying.
Lace Out
21 Nov 2007, 23:05
Gherig anyone? Braddles CHB, G-Train FF :D
Fortunately we are currently not that desperate.
Richmond might consider it...