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J-Ro-20

24 Oct 2007, 12:56

Hey all here are all the delistings to date..
are there any players which catch your eye & deserve a second chance?

Adelaide: Ian Perrie, Jason Torney, Matthew Bode, John Hinge, Darren Pfeiffer, Andrew McIntyre, James Turner.
Carlton: David Teague, Dylan McLaren, Anthony Raso, Ross Young, Craig Flint, Lance Whitnall.
Essendon: Kepler Bradley, Richard Col, Mark Johnson, Lachlan McKinnon.
Fremantle: James Walker, Robert Haddrill, Ryley Dunn, Calib Mourish, Clayton Collard.
Geelong: Todd Grima, Sam Hunt, Stephen Owen, Joel Reynolds, Matthew Spencer.
Hawthorn: Josh Thurgood, Matthew Little.
Kangaroos: Daniel McConnell, Callum Urch, Djaran Whyman, Ben Hughes, Tim Hutchison, David Trotter.
Melbourne: Ryan Ferguson, Simon Godfrey, Daniel Hayes, Shane Neaves, Heath Neville, Daniel Ward.
Richmond: Patrick Bowden, Brent Hartigan, Andrew Krakouer, Tas Clingan.
St Kilda: Barry Brooks, Phil Raymond, Justin Sweeney, James Wall, Fergus Watts.
Sydney: Matthew Davis, Earl Shaw, Simon Phillips, Jonathan Simpkin, Luke Vogels.
Western Bulldogs: Travis Baird, Cameron Faulkner, Damien McCormack, Marty Pask, Tim Walsh, Michael West.

Seanason

24 Oct 2007, 12:57

mos tof the guys i rate there are crows players.

MJ101

24 Oct 2007, 13:02

mos tof the guys i rate there are crows players.

I agree,
If we weren't rebuilding id have a slight interest in mark johnson.
Phil Raymond should have never been drafted in the first place.
By the looks of it all, im not really interested in any of those guys in the PSD. We would get jsut as much value out of using all or National draft picks
Rookie list pfeiffer if he is still around.

johnnypanther

24 Oct 2007, 13:08

Clayton Collard
Darren Pfeiffer
Kepler Bradley
Cameron Faulkner

Vader

24 Oct 2007, 13:28

Clayton Collard & Darren Pfeiffer - if we could get their attitudes adjusted.
Todd Grima - was a good prospect 2 years ago when we grabbed Porps in the PSD, has done nothing since to lower his prospects.

cocka

24 Oct 2007, 13:28

Essendon: Kepler Bradley
Fremantle: Ryley Dunn, Clayton Collard.

finn

24 Oct 2007, 13:30

dunn
pfeiffer
collard

did spencer ever hold down a backline position for geelong last year?

PsyCrow23

24 Oct 2007, 13:31

Torney
Bode
Bradley
Dunn
Grima

SA_Stazza

24 Oct 2007, 14:30

Adelaide: Ian Perrie, Jason Torney + Matthew Bode :D, John Hinge, Darren Pfeiffer, Andrew McIntyre, James Turner.

Carlton: David Teague, Dylan McLaren, Anthony Raso, Ross Young, Craig Flint, Lance Whitnall.

Essendon: Kepler Bradley, Richard Col, Mark Johnson, Lachlan McKinnon.

Fremantle: James Walker, Robert Haddrill, Ryley Dunn, Calib Mourish, Clayton Collard :thumbsu:.

Geelong: Todd Grima:thumbsu:, Sam Hunt, Stephen Owen, Joel Reynolds, Matthew Spencer.

Hawthorn: Josh Thurgood, Matthew Little.

Kangaroos: Daniel McConnell:thumbsu:, Callum Urch, Djaran Whyman, Ben Hughes, Tim Hutchison, David Trotter.

Melbourne: Ryan Ferguson, Simon Godfrey, Daniel Hayes, Shane Neaves, Heath Neville, Daniel Ward.

Richmond: Patrick Bowden, Brent Hartigan, Andrew Krakouer, Tas Clingan.

St Kilda: Barry Brooks, Phil Raymond, Justin Sweeney, James Wall, Fergus Watts.

Sydney: Matthew Davis, Earl Shaw, Simon Phillips, Jonathan Simpkin, Luke Vogels.

Western Bulldogs:Travis Baird, Cameron Faulkner, Damien McCormack, Marty Pask, Tim Walsh, Michael West.

Players highlighted in bold

J-Ro-20

24 Oct 2007, 14:35

Heres mine (in order of preference)

1.Kepler Bradley
2.Clayton Collard
3.Ryley Dunn
4.Todd Grima
5.Darren Pfeiffer
6.Cameron Faulkner
7.Fergus Watts

Rugged_Battler

24 Oct 2007, 17:49

Dream Team coaches all over Australia will be reeling at the sacking of Patrick Bowden

Vic Crow

24 Oct 2007, 18:17

Dream Team coaches all over Australia will be reeling at the sacking of Patrick Bowden
Dream Team coaches were reeling last season at the fact he only played three games.

RoosterLad

24 Oct 2007, 18:43

Matthew Davis.

Seanason

24 Oct 2007, 18:43

Fergus Watts?

I wouldnt piss on him if he was on fire.

hes not welcome at AFC.

Southerntakeover

24 Oct 2007, 18:47

Fergus Watts?

I wouldnt piss on him if he was on fire.

hes not welcome at AFC.

Agreed.

And while im at it, **** Darren Pfeiffer. We've already cut him loose, who on earth wants to go backwards?

macca23

24 Oct 2007, 18:50

Bradley, Collard and maybe Grima.

If they come cheap.

crowman_23

24 Oct 2007, 18:55

tinman

24 Oct 2007, 22:45

Dunn, maybe Grima if the draft is short on KPP forwards..............then daylight.

The rest is rubbish.

Vader

25 Oct 2007, 09:11

Yeah there would be a couple that would be interested in but I think with the stance the club has taken with its delistings and what not we would be best to just pick up players in the draft. We seem to be looking at at least a mini re-building phase so we should attack it as hard as we can so it doesn't last too long.

It's going to last at least two more years, given that we still have 5 players aged 30+, Burton aged 29, and 5 unspectacular backboners aged 26-28.

In 2010, I expect Scott Stevens to be the oldest man on Adelaide's senior list - at the grand old age of 28!

I would suggest that it will take 2 years to turnover our list. The question then becomes, how long it takes for the youngsters to fully step up once the veterans are gone? On that one, your guess is as good as mine - but I'd be looking to the slow but steady rises of Hawthorn and Geelong in recent years as a guide.

J-Ro-20

25 Oct 2007, 10:05

Fergus Watts?

I wouldnt piss on him if he was on fire.

hes not welcome at AFC.

You need to have an open mind. He had all the attributes that the crows once wanted. Tall Key Forwards are all the rage nowadays. He could turn himself around... you just never know...dare i say it - David Rodan

Kristof

25 Oct 2007, 11:12

DRAFT: Kepler Bradley

PSD or ROOKIE: Todd Grima, Ryley Dunn, Clayton Collard, Darren Pfeiffer, Daniel McConnell (Patrick Bowden?)

Southerntakeover

25 Oct 2007, 15:37

You need to have an open mind. He had all the attributes that the crows once wanted. Tall Key Forwards are all the rage nowadays. He could turn himself around... you just never know...dare i say it - David Rodan

You cant bring someone who walked out on your club back in.

First of all, imagine how the players would react? Itd be open warfare.

J-Ro-20

25 Oct 2007, 15:44

You cant bring someone who walked out on your club back in.

First of all, imagine how the players would react? It'd be open warfare.

yes thats a point, but on the other hand im sure all players understand the go home factor for interstate kids.

It would all depend on how Fergus trained over the summer. If he was tearing up & taking big pack marks, kicking bags of goals then I'm sure he could win the players over pretty quickly. However if he was mediocre once again - and the crows drafted him there would be trouble amongst the camp...

Southerntakeover

25 Oct 2007, 16:13

yes thats a point, but on the other hand im sure all players understand the go home factor for interstate kids.

It would all depend on how Fergus trained over the summer. If he was tearing up & taking big pack marks, kicking bags of goals then I'm sure he could win the players over pretty quickly. However if he was mediocre once again - and the crows drafted him there would be trouble amongst the camp...

Im not sure players are all that understanding. Playing groups are tight knit, and it seems sometimes players wanting to leave is taken personally, just look at Hudson.

Thats without taking into account the little issue of Fergus Watt's 2006 career favourite moment in the St. Kilda magazine '2005 Qualifying Final against Adelaide'.

J-Ro-20

25 Oct 2007, 17:19

Im not sure players are all that understanding. Playing groups are tight knit, and it seems sometimes players wanting to leave is taken personally, just look at Hudson.

Thats without taking into account the little issue of Fergus Watt's 2006 career favourite moment in the St. Kilda magazine '2005 Qualifying Final against Adelaide'.

Is that for real? what a ****head if Fergus said that! Do you have anymore info of this? Ive never heard that before?

On the players issue - im sure it was said that the players advised Mattner to look elsewhere for better game time opportunities. As Mattner didn't want to leave.

So they obviously understand the AFL system is a tough gig and you could be better off playing for a club when you are going to get the most out of yourself...

Southerntakeover

25 Oct 2007, 17:57

Is that for real? what a ****head if Fergus said that! Do you have anymore info of this? Ive never heard that before?

On the players issue - im sure it was said that the players advised Mattner to look elsewhere for better game time opportunities. As Mattner didn't want to leave.

So they obviously understand the AFL system is a tough gig and you could be better off playing for a club when you are going to get the most out of yourself...

It was a fairly big story at the time, im sure im not the only one that remembers it.

As for Mattner, theres a difference between a player surplus to requirement being traded and getting a better opportunity, and a player who is desperately needed walking out on the club as soon as posisble.

J-Ro-20

25 Oct 2007, 18:09

It was a fairly big story at the time, im sure im not the only one that remembers it.

As for Mattner, theres a difference between a player surplus to requirement being traded and getting a better opportunity, and a player who is desperately needed walking out on the club as soon as posisble.

Hrrm It seems NikkiNoo doesnt like me?

i see your point mate...well this is all just hypothetical talk anyways. the reality is that the crows (or no other afl club) will draft Watts and it looks like he will disappear off the map in a couple of years...

TigerTroy0055

26 Oct 2007, 00:29

TigerTroy0055

26 Oct 2007, 00:35

Kristof

26 Oct 2007, 08:19

Other than Torney I'd be intersted in Trotter , he should have played heaps more games at the Roo's I've never seen someone dropped so much after playing good games. 21 years old top 10 draft pick some one should pick him up. Has some skills and is very good on the dance floor.

Actually - I'd agree with that. Crow-mo can speak with more eloquence on this, but I'd love to hear about how many early draft picks the kangaroos have chewed through in the last few years for little or no return. SOME of them must be good players who were ground down by the facilities.

Freddy Bassett

26 Oct 2007, 11:46

Actually - I'd agree with that. Crow-mo can speak with more eloquence on this, but I'd love to hear about how many early draft picks the kangaroos have chewed through in the last few years for little or no return. SOME of them must be good players who were ground down by the facilities.
And then there is the first round picks they gave up for Thompson and Hay.

*PAF

28 Oct 2007, 10:05

I'd love for Port to pick up Thurgood.
Give him a one year contract, do not let him play but give feed him heaps of beef and force him to do gymwork 5 days a week.
The kid is very very impressive but boy does he makes some of the supermodels look fat or what? :eek:

CrowMagnum

28 Oct 2007, 12:11

Matt Rendell was quoted today as saying that they had spoken to 1 delisted player who they may be interested in with a late pick. Speculating - Cameron Faulkner perhaps?

the egg

28 Oct 2007, 12:26

Mark Johnson anyone? He had 311 disposals for the year...not too bad. Wouldn't mind seeing him become a permanent forward pocket, although he is probably past it :(

macca23

28 Oct 2007, 13:15

Mark Johnson anyone? He had 311 disposals for the year...not too bad. Wouldn't mind seeing him become a permanent forward pocket, although he is probably past it :(

You said it yourself - he's past it.

Mark Johnson?? No thanks.

Kane McGoodwin

1 Nov 2007, 13:54

Adelaide
Archard, Rhys Rookie Delisted
Bode, Matthew Senior Delisted
Gallam, Greg Rookie Promoted
Hinge, John Senior Delisted
Hudson, Ben Senior Traded
Mattner, Marty Senior Traded
McIntyre, Andrew Rookie Delisted
Meesen, John Senior Traded
Perrie, Ian Senior Delisted
Pfieffer, Darren Senior Delisted
Ricciutto, Mark Senior Retired
Torney, Jason Senior Delisted
Turner, James Rookie Delisted

Brisbane
Allan, Marcus Senior Delisted
Corrie, Anthony Rookie Promoted
Fixter, Ben Senior Delisted
Garner. Patrick Senior Delisted
Hadley, Richard Senior Traded
Johnson, Chris Senior Retired
Scott, Chris Senior Retired
Voss, Michael Senior Retired
Wood, Cameron Senior Traded

Carlton
Flint, Craig Senior Delisted
Jackson, Ryan Rookie Promoted
Kennedy, Josh Senior Traded
Koutafides, Anthony Senior Retired
Lappin, Matthew Senior Retired
McLaren, Dylan Senior Delisted
O'hAilpin, Aisake Rookie Promoted
Raso, Anthony Senior Delisted
Teague, David Senior Delisted
Whitnall, Lance Senior Delisted
Young, Ross Senior Delisted

Collingwood
Buckley, Nathan Senior Retired
Clarke, Martin Rookie Promoted
Clement, James Senior Retired
Davies, Ben Senior Traded
Licuria, Paul Senior Retired
Nicholls, Daniel Rookie Delisted
Richards, Guy Senior Delisted

Essendon
Bolton, Mark Senior Retired
Bradley, Kepler Senior Delisted
Camporeale, Scott Senior Retired
Cole, Richard Senior Delisted
Heffernan, Chris Senior Retired
Hird, James Senior Retired
Hocking, Heath Rookie Promoted
Johnsom, Mark Senior Delisted
McKinnon, Lachlan Rookie Delisted
Ramanauskas, Adam Rookie Promoted

Fremantle
Collard, Clayton Senior Delisted
Cook, Troy Senior Retired
Copping, Benet Rookie Delisted
Dunn, Ryley Senior Delisted
Foster, Andrew Rookie Promoted
Haddrill, Robert Senior Delisted
Longmuir, Justin Senior Retired
Mourish, Calib Senior Delisted
Parker, Shane Senior Retired
Rumble, Darren Rookie Delisted
Walker, James Senior Delisted

Geelong
Callen, Tim Senior Traded
Davenport, Jason Rookie Promoted
Gardiner, Charlie Senior Traded
Grima, Todd Rookie Delisted
Hunt, Sam Senior Delisted
King, Steven Senior Traded
Lonergan, Tom Rookie Promoted
Owen, Stephen Senior Delisted
Playfair, Henry Senior Traded
Reynolds, Joel Rookie Delisted
Spencer, Matthew Senior Delisted

Hawthorn
Dixon, Ben Senior Retired
Collins, Brett Rookie Delisted
Gibson, Sam Rookie Delisted
Little, Matt Senior Delisted
McEntee, Like Rookie Promoted
Smith, Joel Senior Retired
Thurgood, Josh Senior Delisted
Van den Berg, Richard Senior Retired

Kangaroos
Adams, Leigh Rookie Promoted
Archer, Glen Senior Retired
Campbell, Matt Rookie Promoted
Green, Casey Senior Retired
Hay, Jonathan Senior Retired
Hughes, Ben Rookie Delisted
Hutchison, Tim Rookie Delisted
McConnell, Daniel Senior Delisted
Moran, Brad Senior Traded
Trotter, David Senior Delisted
Urch, Callum Senior Delisted
Whyman, Djaran Senior Delisted

Melbourne
Bizzell, Clint Senior Retired
Bode, Jace Rookie Promoted
Brown, Nathan Senior Retired
Ferguson, Ryan Senior Delisted
Godfrey, Simon Senior Delisted
Hayes, Daniel Rookie Delisted
Hughes, Daniel Rookie Delisted
Johnstone, Travis Senior Traded
Neaves, Shane Rookie Delisted
Neville, Heath Senior Delisted
Pickett, Byron Senior Retired
Ward, Daniel Senior Delisted

Port
Batansis, Nathan Rookie Delisted
Hardy, Peter Rookie Delisted
Lee, Alex Rookie Delisted
Mahoney, Josh Senior Retired
Symes, Brad Senior Traded
Wakelin, Daryl Senior Retired

Richmond
Bowden, Patrick Senior Delisted
Clingan, Tas Rookie Delisted
Gaspar, Darren Senior Retired
Graham, Angus Rookie Promoted
Hall, Ray Senior Retired
Hartigan, Brent Senior Delisted
Howat, Cam Rookie Delisted
King, Jake Rookie Promoted
Kinglsey, Kent Senior Retired
Knobel, Trent Senior Retired
Krakouer, Andrew Senior Delisted
Peterson, Carl Senior Delisted

St Kilda
Brooks, Barry Senior Delisted
Clarke, Matthew Senior Retired
Geary, Jarryn Rookie Promoted
Gehrig, Fraser Senior Retired
Hamill, Aaron Senior Retired
Jones, Clinton Rookie Promoted
McQualter, Andrew Senior Delisted
Raymond, Phil Senior Delisted
Sweeney, Justin Senior Delisted
Thompson, Andrew Senior Retired
Voss, Brett Senior Retired
Wall, James Rookie Delisted
Watts, Fergus Senior Delisted

Sydney
Barlow, Ed Rookie Promoted
Brennan, Luke Rookie Promoted
Davis, Matthew Rookie Delisted
Dempster, Sean Senior Traded
Doyle, Stephen Senior Retired
Jack, Kieren Rookie Promoted
O'Dwyer, Matthew Rookie Delisted
Phillips, Simon Senior Delisted
Rowe, Sam Rookie Delisted
Schneider, Adam Senior Traded
Shaw, Earl Rookie Delisted
Simpkin, Jonathan Senior Delisted
Vogels, Luke Senior Delisted

West Coast
Chick, Daniel Senior Delisted
Jones, Chad Rookie Promoted
Jones, Rowan Senior Retired
Judd, Chris Senior Traded
McNamara, Jamie Rookie Promoted
Morton, Mitch Senior Traded
Sampi, Ashley Senior Delisted
Sharp, Ben Rookie Delisted
Spaanderman, Llane Rookie Delisted
Thornton, Ashley Rookie Delisted
Wilkes, Beau Rookie Delisted
Wooden, Josh Senior Retired

Western Bulldogs
Baird, Travis Senior Delisted
Darcy, Luke Senior Retired
Faulkner, Cameron Senior Delisted
Grant, Chris Senior Retired
Harbrow, Jarrod Rookie Promoted
McCormack, Damian Senior Delisted
McMahon, Jordan Senior Traded
Montgomery, Brett Senior Retired
Pask, Marty Rookie Delisted
Power, Sam Senior Traded
Robbins, Matthew Senior Retired
Walsh, Tim Senior Delisted
West, Michael Rookie Delisted

Kane McGoodwin

1 Nov 2007, 13:57

Retiree A Team:
F: M Lappin, F.Gehrig, A Hamill
HF: J.Hird, C.Grant, B.Pickett
C: A.Koutafides, M.Ricciuto (vc), S Camporeale
HB: J Smith, D.Gasper, G.Archer
B: C Johnson, D Wakelin, J.Clement
R: L.Darcy, N Buckley, M Voss (c)
I: M Clarke, S Parker, C Scott, A Thompson

Retiree B Team:
F: M.Robbins, K.Kingsley, B Dixon
HF: J.Mahoney, J Longmuir, K.Green
C: C.Heffernan, R.Vandenberg (c), R Jones
HB: N.Brown, M Bolton, B Montgomery (vc)
FB: B Voss, J Hay, C Bizzell
R: T Knobel, P.Licuria, T.Cook
I: J.Wooden, S.Doyle, R Hall

Delistee Team:
F: B Brooks, L Witnall, C Faulkner
HF: A Krakour, I Perrie, A Sampi
C: J Walker, D Chick, S Godfrey
HB: J Torney, K Bradley, D Ward
B: R Cole, R Haddrill, D Teague
R: D McLaren, M Johnson, M Bode
I: G Richards, B Fixter, P Bowden, L Vogels

Capitalist

1 Nov 2007, 15:25

I still can't get over 9 changes to the Crows senior line-up (12 overall)

whislt it compares well to the rest of the teams it must have been a long time since we have that sought of movement in our list.

Crowked

1 Nov 2007, 15:41

macca23

1 Nov 2007, 16:10

These are IMO the only PSD possibilities for us.

Bradley, Kepler Senior Delisted
Collard, Clayton Senior Delisted
Faulkner, Cameron Senior Delisted

I think all 3 have significant unfulfilled potential. The most likely I guess would be Faulkner, but from what ive heard and read, perhaps Collard has the most upside.

You're pretty spot on there, although I do have reservations about Faulkner.

Bradley or Collard or nobody are the ones that I think might flourish the most into good AFL players at the Crows under Craig.

J-Ro-20

1 Nov 2007, 16:23

These are IMO the only PSD possibilities for us.

Bradley, Kepler Senior Delisted
Collard, Clayton Senior Delisted
Faulkner, Cameron Senior Delisted

I think all 3 have significant unfulfilled potential. The most likely I guess would be Faulkner, but from what ive heard and read, perhaps Collard has the most upside.

your probably pretty right with these 3 here. I would assume all of them get a second chance.

Vader

1 Nov 2007, 16:41

These are IMO the only PSD possibilities for us.

Bradley, Kepler Senior Delisted
Collard, Clayton Senior Delisted
Faulkner, Cameron Senior Delisted

I think all 3 have significant unfulfilled potential. The most likely I guess would be Faulkner, but from what ive heard and read, perhaps Collard has the most upside.

I would have thought Faulkner was the least likely. Certainly had the least ability of the three, from what I saw of him anyway.

Vader

1 Nov 2007, 17:00

Here's the updated draft order, I posted it on the D&T board just now:

Adelaide: 10, 27, 30, 38, 57, 69 (Taylor Walker - NSW Scholarship)
Brisbane: 8, 25, 41, 51, 55
Carlton: 1 (PP), 36, 46, 63
Collingwood: 31, 47, 60 (Jaxson Barham - F/S)
Essendon: 6, 23, 39 (Darcy Daniher - F/S), 53, 66
Footscray: 5, 19, 35, 43, 48, 61, 65
Fremantle: 7, 24, 40, 54, 67, 71
Geelong: 17, 34, 44, 49, 59 (Adam Donohue - F/S)
Hawthorn: 12, 29, 45
Melbourne: 4, 14, 21, 52, 64, 70
North Melbourne: 15, 32, 37
Port Adelaide: 16, 28, 33
Richmond: 2, 18 (PP), 50, 62
St Kilda: 9, 42, 56, 68
Sydney: 11, 26, 58 (Craig Bird - NSW Scholarship)
West Coast: 3, 13, 20, 22

Or alternatively, in list form:
Pick # Club Round
1 Carlton PP
2 Richmond R1
3 West Coast R1
4 Melbourne R1
5 Footscray R1
6 Essendon R1
7 Fremantle R1
8 Brisbane R1
9 St Kilda R1
10 Adelaide R1
11 Sydney R1
12 Hawthorn R1
13 West Coast R1
14 Melbourne R1
15 North Melbourne R1
16 Port Adelaide R1
17 Geelong R1
18 Richmond PP
19 Footscray R2
20 West Coast R2
21 Melbourne R2
22 West Coast R2
23 Essendon R2
24 Fremantle R2
25 Brisbane R2
26 Sydney R2
27 Adelaide R2
28 Port Adelaide R2
29 Hawthorn R2
30 Adelaide R2
31 Collingwood R2
32 North Melbourne R2
33 Port Adelaide R2
34 Geelong R2
35 Footscray R3
36 Carlton R3
37 North Melbourne R3
38 Adelaide R3
39 Essendon R3 Darcy Daniher (Father/Son)
40 Fremantle R3
41 Brisbane R3
42 St Kilda R3
43 Footscray R3
44 Geelong R3
45 Hawthorn R3
46 Carlton R3
47 Collingwood R3
48 Footscray R3
49 Geelong R3
50 Richmond R4
51 Brisbane R4
52 Melbourne R4
53 Essendon R4
54 Fremantle R4
55 Brisbane R4
56 St Kilda R4
57 Adelaide R4
58 Sydney R4 Craig Bird (NSW Scholarship)
59 Geelong R4 Adam Donohue (Father/Son)
60 Collingwood R4 Jaxson Barham (Father/Son)
61 Footscray R4
62 Richmond R5
63 Carlton R5
64 Melbourne R5
65 Footscray R5
66 Essendon R5
67 Fremantle R5
68 St Kilda R5
69 Adelaide R5 Taylor Walker (NSW Scholarship)
70 Melbourne R6
71 Fremantle R6

Wayne's-World

1 Nov 2007, 19:36

You're pretty spot on there, although I do have reservations about Faulkner.

Bradley or Collard or nobody are the ones that I think might flourish the most into good AFL players at the Crows under Craig.

Dangerous thought there ........seriously quiet ...was a top 10 pick quality last year but no-one took him becuase all knew that he wouldn't cope away from WA - hence Freo got him.

To delist him after one season says the personality issues run deeper.

He you take the position on Pfieffer then Collard is an even worse case

macca23

1 Nov 2007, 21:24

Dangerous thought there ........seriously quiet ...was a top 10 pick quality last year but no-one took him becuase all knew that he wouldn't cope away from WA - hence Freo got him.

To delist him after one season says the personality issues run deeper.

He you take the position on Pfieffer then Collard is an even worse case

As it turns out WW, Collard obviously didn't even cope in his home state either, so you're probably dead right.

Shame, because we're talking about another talented lad that just doesn't want to play it by the book.

We've had our share of dropkicks over the years so one would hope that the AFC would suss it all out before even considering him - he may not even be on our radar for that reason.

Bradley doesn't seem to have any such issues other than Sheedy trying to turn him into something he wasn't. Hmmmm ..... where have I heard that story before?? ;)

fightingdreamer88

1 Nov 2007, 22:17

We have a pretty good overall presence in the draft. The key is getting the best possible player from pick 10; can't afford to fail with the first rounder again.

J-Ro-20

5 Nov 2007, 13:42

We have a pretty good overall presence in the draft. The key is getting the best possible player from pick 10; can't afford to fail with the first rounder again.

spot on we are yet to get one right yet with high picks like this.

the only one which springs to mind is Burton taken at pick #14? Am I right there?

edit- ah sorry i checked wikipedia it was pick #16 in the 1998 draft. thats a long time since we have nailed a decent first round draft pick.

NikkiNoo

5 Nov 2007, 14:05

spot on we are yet to get one right yet with high picks like this.

the only one which springs to mind is Burton taken at pick #14? Am I right there?

edit- ah sorry i checked wikipedia it was pick #16 in the 1998 draft. thats a long time since we have nailed a decent first round draft pick.

Reilly is our other 1st round draft pick success.

J-Ro-20

5 Nov 2007, 16:01

Reilly is our other 1st round draft pick success.

ah yes I forgot about him. you would have to say he is more of a success than Burton was - as Rielly came from interstate and had to adjust.

Rielly was a pick 12 in 2001.

Tas

9 Nov 2007, 20:31

There seems to be a fair few players in the de-listed group that have had a fair reputation before they were drafted. I think my club might have a look at few of them. We have three reasonable picks in 15, 32 and 37 but after that we have rubbish picks, probably wouldn't hurt to look at another recycle. Did reasonably well with taking Edwards late last year.

Note to those earlier in the thread who looked at McConnell. He requested a trade from the Eagles to go closer to home a few years back so unlikely he will go interstate, if anywhere.

Ozzie

9 Nov 2007, 21:36

ah yes I forgot about him. you would have to say he is more of a success than Burton was - as Rielly came from interstate and had to adjust.

Rielly was a pick 12 in 2001.

How quickly they get forgotten...traded pick 6 for Matthew Clarke to the Lions in what ever year.

Clarke gave us sterling service for many years.

Viva la Mattner

9 Nov 2007, 22:40

Adelaide: Jason Torney, Matthew Bode, Darren Pfeiffer.
Carlton: David Teague, Lance Whitnall.

Essendon: Kepler Bradley, Mark Johnson.

Fremantle: Ryley Dunn

Geelong: None

Hawthorn: None

Kangaroos:

Melbourne: Daniel Ward.

Richmond: Andrew Krakouer.

St Kilda: Fergus Watts.

Sydney: Luke Vogels.

Western Bulldogs: Cameron Faulkner.