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There is an article on www.theage.com.au at the moment that reveals that Carlton his signed 4 of the best young talent in Ireland to what amounts to a commitment to the Carlton footy club. Essentially the club has given each boy $1600 to sign a form agreeing that if they decide to try AFL it can only be with Carlton.
So what are we doing?? Didn't we send some people over there this year to investigate? Pity we are going to be a couple of years behind again!!
Can't we for once be agressive in this type of action? Why can't we be the ones pushing the envelope and leading the comp in this area. Hell, we have the resources to do it better than almost everyone!!
Come on Crows get up with the future!!
PsyCrow23
24 Oct 2007, 13:38
didily dee potatoes.......
imo Stynes is the one & only
Thanks for that jmorg1, great contribution! Unfortunately it is that attitude that is allowing the Crows to be left behind.
Perhaps we will see how 'meh' you feel when one of these boys tears us apart in a few years!
Although it isnt big business yet, it will be soon.
Drafting/rookie listing international athletes and players should be high priority for all clubs. Its just the next level of proffesionalism. The sooner or later we attack this aspect of our recruiting with vigour the better!!!
I know it would piss the irish off imensley but we should be scourging their underage representative sides and bringing the lads over for trials as much as we can. What is there to lose? Not much. Could gain a gem. Im a big believer in a policy that each club should have at least one extra selection in the rookie draft for an international player/recruit. Cant hurt can it? Hell, if all of them come from ireland that means the best 16 kids from the emerald isle could be here in Australia.
Thanks for that jmorg1, great contribution! Unfortunately it is that attitude that is allowing the Crows to be left behind.
Perhaps we will see how 'meh' you feel when one of these boys tears us apart in a few years!
Maybe. But chances of them 'tearing us apart' are pretty low. Kennelly and Clarke are good players but hardly 'tear you apart' players. The O'hailpins and Begley I can live with not having at the Crows.
Maybe. But chances of them 'tearing us apart' are pretty low. Kennelly and Clarke are good players but hardly 'tear you apart' players. The O'hailpins and Begley I can live with not having at the Crows.
hmmm, interesting comment! I seem to remember Kennelly's run ripping a few teams apart in finals! And, Clarke is in his first year of AFL. How do you think he will go in 3 years time!!
I look forward to reminding you about that comment!
Anyway, it's not so much about the players that are already here, its about doing everything you can to find the best talent. I don't think we are doing it yet!
Maybe. But chances of them 'tearing us apart' are pretty low. Kennelly and Clarke are good players but hardly 'tear you apart' players. The O'hailpins and Begley I can live with not having at the Crows.
Kennelly and Clarke would be walk up starts into a crows 22, so we should be looking.
There is an article on www.theage.com.au (http://www.theage.com.au) at the moment that reveals that Carlton his signed 4 of the best young talent in Ireland to what amounts to a commitment to the Carlton footy club. Essentially the club has given each boy $1600 to sign a form agreeing that if they decide to try AFL it can only be with Carlton.
So what are we doing?? Didn't we send some people over there this year to investigate? Pity we are going to be a couple of years behind again!!
Can't we for once be agressive in this type of action? Why can't we be the ones pushing the envelope and leading the comp in this area. Hell, we have the resources to do it better than almost everyone!!
Come on Crows get up with the future!!
I think NC sends his recruiters to the Tour De France each year.
BlackDouglas
24 Oct 2007, 13:50
How are we being left behind?
These boys who signed this agreement with Carlton still have to be drafted by Carton. Does this agreement overrule any drafting? They will have to nominate for the draft (either national or rookie) and as soon as they nominate for the draft if we then refuse to investigate who they are and what potential talent they have is when we will be left behind. All I see is Carton throwing away good money on players who have no guarantee to end up at that club.
As far as I know we can still draft any of theses player and if they refuse to play for the club Carlton should be investigated for draft tampering.
J-Ro-20
24 Oct 2007, 13:53
I'm still amazed that the crows don't have a full time player scout searching these international leagues looking for potential draftees.
The crows can certainly afford it, and to my recollection recruiting outside of Australia does not factor in a clubs salary cap. correct me if I'm wrong on that?
But yes we should have scouts overseas to snap up these Irish & international kids...
Maybe. But chances of them 'tearing us apart' are pretty low. Kennelly and Clarke are good players but hardly 'tear you apart' players. The O'hailpins and Begley I can live with not having at the Crows.
Clarke has played 12 games after picking up a footy for the first time about 12 months ago and looks VERY comfortable at this level. He looks very much like a tear you apart player.
crowugoodthing
24 Oct 2007, 13:57
How are we being left behind?
These boys who signed this agreement with Carlton still have to be drafted by Carton. Does this agreement overrule any drafting? They will have to nominate for the draft (either national or rookie) and as soon as they nominate for the draft if we then refuse to investigate who they are and what potential talent they have is when we will be left behind. All I see is Carton throwing away good money on players who have no guarantee to end up at that club.
As far as I know we can still draft any of theses player and if they refuse to play for the club Carlton should be investigated for draft tampering.
Because they are not registered with any club in Australia they can get around it.... like the Sydney Ruckman from QLD that's just been rookied.
How are we being left behind?
These boys who signed this agreement with Carlton still have to be drafted by Carton. Does this agreement overrule any drafting? They will have to nominate for the draft (either national or rookie) and as soon as they nominate for the draft if we then refuse to investigate who they are and what potential talent they have is when we will be left behind. All I see is Carton throwing away good money on players who have no guarantee to end up at that club.
As far as I know we can still draft any of theses player and if they refuse to play for the club Carlton should be investigated for draft tampering.
Wrong, international recruits are added to the list for the price of a rookie draft pick. There is no entering the draft for them, they sign with Carlton before any draft occurs.
BlackDouglas
24 Oct 2007, 14:03
I'm still amazed that the crows don't have a full time player scout searching these international leagues looking for potential draftees.
The crows can certainly afford it, and to my recollection recruiting outside of Australia does not factor in a clubs salary cap. correct me if I'm wrong on that?
But yes we should have scouts overseas to snap up these Irish & international kids...
Full time international scout? This is not the NBA and we are not going to draft the next Yao Ming from China. We only need someone to look at the junior grades playing Gaelic football in Ireland.
No one entering the AFL can bypass the AFL draft so if any of theses Irish lads are good enough to become a star, this is when we should be using all of our resources to investigate how they go.
Yeah lets hire a full timer international scout so we can potentially rookie list someone who has never kicked the oval shaped football before. Great use of $50,000
BlackDouglas
24 Oct 2007, 14:08
Wrong, international recruits are added to the list for the price of a rookie draft pick. There is no entering the draft for them, they sign with Carlton before any draft occurs.
Marty Clarke (Irish Lad) from Collingwood was drafted in the 2007 AFL Rookie Draft 3rd round selection (Collingwood) No. 40 overall.
Has the rule changed?
Collingwood's pick 40 in the Rookie draft was their last. It's the same as how Taylor Walker is going to be pick 75 this year for the Crows but he's already on our list.
"Already Brendan Murphy, 18, has committed to the Sydney Swans with teenager Pierce Handley flying to train with Brisbane next month and Collingwood securing Kevin Dyas."
"Not only is the international recruiting system another way of securing players outside the draft"
Obviously there are some other clubs who think it is well worth the investment. The question again is, why aren't we??
Campbell's Chunky
24 Oct 2007, 14:15
Full time international scout? This is not the NBA and we are not going to draft the next Yao Ming from China. We only need someone to look at the junior grades playing Gaelic football in Ireland.
No one entering the AFL can bypass the AFL draft so if any of theses Irish lads are good enough to become a star, this is when we should be using all of our resources to investigate how they go.
Yeah lets hire a full timer international scout so we can potentially rookie list someone who has never kicked the oval shaped football before. Great use of $50,000
You know there was a guy yesterday who died doing stuff that people thought was 'Crazy'. A guy who people thought was just throwing away his money.
They ended up following his lead, and he become one of Australia's richest men.
A succesful AFL club, or any other sporting club, or even any business, is a proactive one, not a reactive one.
We are lucky in that we have one of the strongest financial positions.
And when the draft/salary cap forces each club to be 'equal' with each other, how are we going to make the most of our financial advantage?
Collingwood's pick 40 in the Rookie draft was their last. It's the same as how Taylor Walker is going to be pick 75 this year for the Crows but he's already on our list.
Exactly right. I wonder if BlackDouglas thinks the money spent investigating and watching the NSW boys was a waste??
Stiffy_18
24 Oct 2007, 14:17
Marty Clarke (Irish Lad) from Collingwood was drafted in the 2007 AFL Rookie Draft 3rd round selection (Collingwood) No. 40 overall.
Has the rule changed?
The same rule has been in place for years. Its similar to the NSW scholarship program.
International rookies sign an agreement with an AFL club and if that club wants them, they nominate one of the rookie draft picks and just add the lad to the rookie list.
They don't exactly go into the draft pool where anyone can pick him up. Very similar program to the NSW Scholarship.
macca23
24 Oct 2007, 14:22
Full time international scout? This is not the NBA and we are not going to draft the next Yao Ming from China. We only need someone to look at the junior grades playing Gaelic football in Ireland.
No one entering the AFL can bypass the AFL draft so if any of theses Irish lads are good enough to become a star, this is when we should be using all of our resources to investigate how they go.
Yeah lets hire a full timer international scout so we can potentially rookie list someone who has never kicked the oval shaped football before. Great use of $50,000
You've missed the point.
The club that finds them and signs them up can add them to their rookie list as overseas draftees. They never get to see the National draft.
BunjiMac
24 Oct 2007, 14:24
Full time international scout? This is not the NBA and we are not going to draft the next Yao Ming from China. We only need someone to look at the junior grades playing Gaelic football in Ireland.
No one entering the AFL can bypass the AFL draft so if any of theses Irish lads are good enough to become a star, this is when we should be using all of our resources to investigate how they go.
Yeah lets hire a full timer international scout so we can potentially rookie list someone who has never kicked the oval shaped football before. Great use of $50,000
My thoughts exactly
BlackDouglas
24 Oct 2007, 14:25
Exactly right. I wonder if BlackDouglas thinks the money spent investigating and watching the NSW boys was a waste??
Waste of money adding a player onto the NSW development scheme? NO
Trying to find a diamond I the rough from Ireland? Yeah I do think that is a waste of money for a full time international scout. Considering we (the AFL) have only had 3 player turn into anything from Ireland (Jimmy Stynes, Ty Kennelly and Marty Clarke and he is still very raw) turn into anything descent, not a good turn around for the outlay needed.
Investigate the potential to recruit as many players as they like because that can be done by Matt Rendell during the slow months in Australia but paying someone to be a full time international scout; yes IMO that is a waste of money.
BlackDouglas
24 Oct 2007, 14:29
The same rule has been in place for years. Its similar to the NSW scholarship program.
International rookies sign an agreement with an AFL club and if that club wants them, they nominate one of the rookie draft picks and just add the lad to the rookie list.
They don't exactly go into the draft pool where anyone can pick him up. Very similar program to the NSW Scholarship.
You've missed the point.
The club that finds them and signs them up can add them to their rookie list as overseas draftees. They never get to see the National draft.
Ok I got it wrong but my beef was never about recruiting them but IMO we don’t need a full time international scout to do a job that should be done by the person already in the position.
It’s a .5 position that would take 2 or 3 week to investigate.
J-Ro-20
24 Oct 2007, 14:40
Full time international scout? This is not the NBA and we are not going to draft the next Yao Ming from China. We only need someone to look at the junior grades playing Gaelic football in Ireland.
No one entering the AFL can bypass the AFL draft so if any of theses Irish lads are good enough to become a star, this is when we should be using all of our resources to investigate how they go.
Yeah lets hire a full timer international scout so we can potentially rookie list someone who has never kicked the oval shaped football before. Great use of $50,000
50k is pocket coin to the crows really. can you put a price on premierships & success?
Ok I got it wrong but my beef was never about recruiting them but IMO we don’t need a full time international scout to do a job that should be done by the person already in the position.
It’s a .5 position that would take 2 or 3 week to investigate.
2-3 weeks? Are you serious??!
Do you honestly think that 3 weeks would be sufficient to watch the best young players in Ireland and decide who to target??
Actually I've come up with a new plan. Let's go to Ireland, give $2000 to any boy who at age 16 or so is playing in any of their A teams and sign them up. :D We might as well sign 50 of them! That way we would have the best opportunity to find that diamond in the rough and we wouldn't need to spend countless hours watching tapes and games! Amazing to think that this isn't actually against the rules!!:eek:
Could it be a waste of money? Yes.
Could it be the best investment we've made? Also yes, and I could imagine we've probably blown $100,000 on other worthless investments in the past!
mymansyd
24 Oct 2007, 15:28
As proven by Clarke and Kenelly, there is surely some merit in dabbling in Ireland. I'd be disappointed if the AFC hasn't at least discussed it. Be a good question to put to Triggy.
As proven by Clarke and Kenelly, there is surely some merit in dabbling in Ireland. I'd be disappointed if the AFC hasn't at least discussed it. Be a good question to put to Triggy.
Unfortunately, I think this is the most disappointing part. Earlier this season I recall an article in the 'tiser about the Crows discussing the possibility of looking at Ireland.
So, while we have only just begun thinking about it, other clubs are already identifying the talent, signing up players and bringing them into their teams, hence the title of the thread!
Capitalist
24 Oct 2007, 17:02
geeze we complain about the go home factor now...:D
but on a more serious note, is it really worth it for the 2 or 3 players that have made it ??
i'm fairly sure of the success stories everyone is getting their knickers in a knot about there is a fair number that are failures.
maybe we should concentrate on getting out draft record fixed first, then look at the O/S players.
Freddy Bassett
24 Oct 2007, 17:29
Clarke is a freak of nature and will be a superstar, no doubt about it. 12 months of footy and he loks as polished as. I would give pick 10 for clarke any day of the week, only problem the pies wouldnt give him up.
missionpossible
24 Oct 2007, 17:31
All this recruiting out of Ireland is going to have one result.
As Ireland loses all its best talent they will finally agree that they need to move from an amature to professional league. Once it has gone professional we will not be able to rape and pillage their athletes.
RoosterLad
24 Oct 2007, 18:03
Crap thread.
KUNG FU
24 Oct 2007, 18:42
The thread title is rubbish.
SA Tricolours
24 Oct 2007, 18:44
Crap thread.
Agreed. You might get lucky with a couple, but 2 or 3 players out of 700 is a small return - better to focus on the talent at home.
Crap thread.
no its not.
what adelaide should also be doing is building bridges at a local level like port are. If you have a look at the ethopian, sudanese and other African kids playing afl, they're all port supporters because
a - the primary schools tend to be in port supporter intensive areas such as ethelton, kilkenny and the port club seems to visit relatively often.
b - port have made a big deal about drafting and playing local indigeneous talent without it being a cynical exercise. Port pick on talent but also with a view to networks if people are similar.
Port are also very popular in the NT as are Essendon due to the good work that the clubs have historically done. It also helps that Mallee Park is in the SANFL Magpies country zone.
Having met many refugee families, most kids love afl but are following port. On a cycnical level, the first club to draft a player of African heritage will tap into a loyal audience. This will also mean that footer will help to build bridges and add a little more tolerance to the world (eg Bachar Houli and the many articles that followed his drafting).
topjars
24 Oct 2007, 19:21
I think NC sends his recruiters to the Tour De France each year.
LOL...good one!
Yep we should be looking in Ireland thats for sure. The gaelic game is probably as close as your'e likely to get to our game soits no harm in looking.
Talk about Clarke Kennelly & co; dont forget Jimmy Stynes either...;)
NikkiNoo
24 Oct 2007, 20:54
no its not.
what adelaide should also be doing is building bridges at a local level like port are. If you have a look at the ethopian, sudanese and other African kids playing afl, they're all port supporters because
a - the primary schools tend to be in port supporter intensive areas such as ethelton, kilkenny and the port club seems to visit relatively often.
b - port have made a big deal about drafting and playing local indigeneous talent without it being a cynical exercise. Port pick on talent but also with a view to networks if people are similar.
Port are also very popular in the NT as are Essendon due to the good work that the clubs have historically done. It also helps that Mallee Park is in the SANFL Magpies country zone.
Having met many refugee families, most kids love afl but are following port. On a cycnical level, the first club to draft a player of African heritage will tap into a loyal audience. This will also mean that footer will help to build bridges and add a little more tolerance to the world (eg Bachar Houli and the many articles that followed his drafting).
The crows have actually done some work with the local african refugees as well. In fact they have invited a large group down to training to watch and have done some work with them with some of the players this year.
The Crows Truth
24 Oct 2007, 21:21
pathetically negative thread title :thumbsd:
overall i think a case can be made for some involvement however lets be honest here...this is long odds peripheral talent we are talking about
and with so many afl clubs now looking at young irish talent - pies, swans, lions, blues etc - is going to be even harder to snag a real competitive advantage
The Crows Truth
24 Oct 2007, 21:24
There is an article on www.theage.com.au at the moment that reveals that Carlton his signed 4 of the best young talent in Ireland to what amounts to a commitment to the Carlton footy club. Essentially the club has given each boy $1600 to sign a form agreeing that if they decide to try AFL it can only be with Carlton.
So what are we doing?? Didn't we send some people over there this year to investigate? Pity we are going to be a couple of years behind again!!
Can't we for once be agressive in this type of action? Why can't we be the ones pushing the envelope and leading the comp in this area. Hell, we have the resources to do it better than almost everyone!!
Come on Crows get up with the future!!
care to post a follow up with the TRUTH?
afl.com.au
Icke denies reports of Irish signings
6:35 PM Wed 24 October, 2007 | Back
By Catherine Murphy
Exclusive to AFL BigPond Network
News
CARLTON has refuted claims in newspaper reports that they have signed four Irish players however football operations manager Steven Icke has confirmed that the Blues have offered Cork defender Michael Shields the opportunity to join the club for a trial during pre-season.
"We haven't signed anyone," Icke says. "All we've done with Michael Shields is offer him the opportunity to come to Carlton and do a pre-season training camp.
"If he likes what he sees and we like what we see, we may be in a position to offer him a contract."
The Corkman, who played in his county's losing All-Ireland final bid against Kerry, wouldn't be short of company from home.
The club already has two Irish players from Cork in Setanta O'hAilpin and his younger brother Aisake, who is believed to be close to an upgrade to the senior list despite the fact a groin injury ended his season prematurely this year.
It was also reported that the club had signed three other teenagers from Galway, Laois and Armagh and were offering $1600 apiece on the condition they chose the Blues should they decide to try to make the grade in the AFL.
"I am meeting with some other players but I'm not going to state who they are.
"That's all wrong (regarding payments). No payments have been made. I'm here to talk to some people but there are no offers being made at this stage."
Icke, who arrived in Dublin late on Tuesday night, says he hasn't even met up with Shields yet.
"I haven't had any indication from Michael as to whether he'll accept our offer."
When asked if he is confident that the O'hAilpins will have Irish company next year, the football manager remains coy.
"They've made their (the O'hAilpins) spare bed up; I don't know whether that's an indication or not," he laughed.
turbo182
24 Oct 2007, 21:35
Personally I think we're better of sending scouts to the NT. And send Macca with them. Supposedly he's like a god up there. You can't tell me there's not a enough talent up there. It just needs to be nurtured.
To be fair, 3 of the boys are under 18 so they can't be rookie listed yet. One of the boys, Shields, will be spoken to by Icke and hopefully will come down for the pre-season and see what happens from there. Icke won't be letting the media know what boys he wants to recruit as other clubs could talk the boys out of it (murphy, the sydney rookie, was bound for brisbane but kenelly hard a chat to him and changed his mind to go to sydney).
johnnypanther
25 Oct 2007, 10:35
Personally I think we're better of sending scouts to the NT. And send Macca with them. Supposedly he's like a god up there. You can't tell me there's not a enough talent up there. It just needs to be nurtured.
:thumbsu: I'm with you - i would much prefer to see a big involvement with the indigeneous players in the NT and using the huge advantage we have with Macca both now and after retirement. I realize that any subsequent developed players are subject to the draft and hence we may not get them anyway. Perhaps having some sort of scholarship/development squads.
I would even look into some association with the proposed NT side in the SANFL - i think there were worries that the NT side may not be competitive enough but i wondered if the AFC could develop some association whereby our fringe/young players played with the NT side in the SANFL with AFC providing coaching and other support.
jackster83
25 Oct 2007, 10:48
Why would we want to follow in Carlton's footsteps? They've been rebuilding for 6 years straight now and haven't exactly made a lot of ground back up the ladder. Setanta O'Hailpin is a clumsy oaf who will never be half the player Stynes was. The NT idea is a better one because those kids have pace and skill and most importantly, are natural footballers.
IddyBiddy
25 Oct 2007, 11:06
no its not.
what adelaide should also be doing is building bridges at a local level like port are. If you have a look at the ethopian, sudanese and other African kids playing afl, they're all port supporters because
a - the primary schools tend to be in port supporter intensive areas such as ethelton, kilkenny and the port club seems to visit relatively often.
b - port have made a big deal about drafting and playing local indigeneous talent without it being a cynical exercise. Port pick on talent but also with a view to networks if people are similar.
Port are also very popular in the NT as are Essendon due to the good work that the clubs have historically done. It also helps that Mallee Park is in the SANFL Magpies country zone.
Having met many refugee families, most kids love afl but are following port. On a cycnical level, the first club to draft a player of African heritage will tap into a loyal audience. This will also mean that footer will help to build bridges and add a little more tolerance to the world (eg Bachar Houli and the many articles that followed his drafting).
This comment shows a complete lack of knowledge and some obvious allegiance to PAP
Freddy Bassett
25 Oct 2007, 17:14
Personally I think we're better of sending scouts to the NT. And send Macca with them. Supposedly he's like a god up there. You can't tell me there's not a enough talent up there. It just needs to be nurtured.:thumbsu: Bloody oath. I reckon rather than wasting low picks on kids who are probably never going to make it, have a crack at some genuine excitement machines up north. Its surely worth picking 1, even as a rookie each year. Bet after 10 years we would have 3 gems.
J-Ro-20
25 Oct 2007, 18:13
:thumbsu: I'm with you - i would much prefer to see a big involvement with the indigeneous players in the NT and using the huge advantage we have with Macca both now and after retirement. I realize that any subsequent developed players are subject to the draft and hence we may not get them anyway. Perhaps having some sort of scholarship/development squads.
Its a big risk..a lot of young NT boys have a lot of trouble developing to the change of lifestyle. Mostly more so than a young kid from Vic, NSW or W.A
geeze we complain about the go home factor now...:D
but on a more serious note, is it really worth it for the 2 or 3 players that have made it ??
i'm fairly sure of the success stories everyone is getting their knickers in a knot about there is a fair number that are failures.
maybe we should concentrate on getting out draft record fixed first, then look at the O/S players.
No it's not necassary, there are just certain sections of this board who aren't happy unless their sticking the boot in. Should the Irish rookie we could have take fail while some South Australian rookie flourishes these are also coincidentally the first posters to whine about that too.
The Crows Truth
25 Oct 2007, 21:15
No it's not necassary, there are just certain sections of this board who aren't happy unless their sticking the boot in. Should the Irish rookie we could have take fail while some South Australian rookie flourishes these are also coincidentally the first posters to whine about that too.
agreed, good post. the amount of negativity/whining/pessimism from some posters is absolutely pathetic
This comment shows a complete lack of knowledge and some obvious allegiance to PAP
um no, most refugee children i've had contact with (my partner is a refugee lawyer) support port through contact at their schools. I'm pleased that adelaide has done this as well.
as both a norwood and brisbane supporter i could never support port (in fact i'd support collingwood before port) but that doesn't mean that adelaide couldn't learn from them every now and then as port have to work harder than adelaide to increase their support base.
I'm all for the push in this thread to get involved in the NT plus other Aboriginal lands =- can only work to everybody's advantage including the wider communities.
porpouglas
28 Oct 2007, 16:33
Full time international scout? This is not the NBA and we are not going to draft the next Yao Ming from China. We only need someone to look at the junior grades playing Gaelic football in Ireland.
No one entering the AFL can bypass the AFL draft so if any of theses Irish lads are good enough to become a star, this is when we should be using all of our resources to investigate how they go.
Yeah lets hire a full timer international scout so we can potentially rookie list someone who has never kicked the oval shaped football before. Great use of $50,000
If you could do all that for $50,000 then we should be doing it. Unfortunately I'd be inclined to add a zero give or take a little.
maccas_no1
29 Oct 2007, 07:37
didily dee potatoes.......
imo Stynes is the one & only
Im in contact with Jimmy quite a bit and speak to him about young Irish talent and that talent coming to Australia to play AFL, according to what he has told me there is alot of interest both from AFL clubs and potential talent in Ireland, I think the AFC should be looking into it look outside the 'square' so to speak.
Im in contact with Jimmy quite a bit and speak to him about young Irish talent and that talent coming to Australia to play AFL, according to what he has told me there is alot of interest both from AFL clubs and potential talent in Ireland, I think the AFC should be looking into it look outside the 'square' so to speak.
You mean at the airport?
maccas_no1
29 Oct 2007, 08:58
You mean at the airport?
Yeah well I didnt want to mention that as it gets people backs up, he flies quite alot with Virgin Blue and see him on the staff bus and quite often have a chat to him, great bloke very easy to talk to:thumbsu:
Crow Envy
11 Nov 2007, 15:51
In todays Sunday Mail, Matt Rendell quoted as saying the Crows are investigating Ireland. Good to see they are not behind the times.
In todays Sunday Mail, Matt Rendell quoted as saying the Crows are investigating Ireland. Good to see they are not behind the times.
The saddest part of it all is that Rendell says 'it will probably come up'. So while other teams are busy recruiting the best talent and signing them up, we will 'probably' talk about it!:mad:
How about we get ahead of the pack rather than copying after the best players have been taken??
Kristof
11 Nov 2007, 23:45
In todays Sunday Mail, Matt Rendell quoted as saying the Crows are investigating Ireland. Good to see they are not behind the times.
We sure this horse isn't bolting? Seems like we're a couple of years behind the times here, and other clubs have a strong advantage in relationships - and signings.
J-Ro-20
12 Nov 2007, 08:11
The saddest part of it all is that Rendell says 'it will probably come up'. So while other teams are busy recruiting the best talent and signing them up, we will 'probably' talk about it!:mad:
How about we get ahead of the pack rather than copying after the best players have been taken??
i agree, it would have been better to see the crows on the ball quicker with this one.
im just happy that rendell is going to take the ireland approach. Could find the next mcleod from ireland!!!
dA Crow
12 Nov 2007, 09:33
The saddest part of it all is that Rendell says 'it will probably come up'. So while other teams are busy recruiting the best talent and signing them up, we will 'probably' talk about it!:mad:
How about we get ahead of the pack rather than copying after the best players have been taken??
FFS; you expect the club, or any club to reveal where and how they are looking for players??? Jesus, take five minutes to actually think about it before posting more rubbish.
FFS; you expect the club, or any club to reveal where and how they are looking for players??? Jesus, take five minutes to actually think about it before posting more rubbish.
Oh, must be my mistake!:rolleyes:
So what your saying is that we have been doing all of this already and we just didn't tell anyone about it!
That must explain why John Reid announced earlier in the year that we would investigate the possibility of recruiting from Irelnad and why Rendell is now commenting that he expects it to be discussed at their meeting. Its obvious now I've thought about it for 5 minutes, we saying these things to keep it secret!! :p
Give me your address mate and I'll send you 5 bucks so you can go to the shop and buy a clue.
dA Crow
12 Nov 2007, 12:07
Oh, must be my mistake!:rolleyes:
So what your saying is that we have been doing all of this already and we just didn't tell anyone about it!
That must explain why John Reid announced earlier in the year that we would investigate the possibility of recruiting from Irelnad and why Rendell is now commenting that he expects it to be discussed at their meeting. Its obvious now I've thought about it for 5 minutes, we saying these things to keep it secret!! :p
Give me your address mate and I'll send you 5 bucks so you can go to the shop and buy a clue.
Keep your 5 bucks; you clearly need it. Although I doubt that it would help you.
DJ is right, we need to act now.
All the guns are being taken.