View Full Version : Movie Terminator 2: Judgement Day - THE GREATEST ACTION MOVIE OF ALL TIME
awesome wells
26 Oct 2007, 01:56
please, feel free to agree with me:thumbsu::cool:
Die Hard is the greatest action movie of all time...
T2 is cool though
FootyJunkie
26 Oct 2007, 02:41
love the canal chase scene with the dramatic music, something that the crane chase scene in T3 was missing
the effects in T2 were ahead of its time for 1991 and could easily pass as a 2007 movie
apollo_creed
26 Oct 2007, 07:32
My second favourite movie of all.
Just ****ing ace.
That piece of shit they called Terminator 3? **** me.
Need to make another one for the sake of redemption.
Mr Eagle
26 Oct 2007, 09:25
Die Hard is the greatest action movie of all time...
T2 is cool though
Correct.
Kowalski
26 Oct 2007, 09:48
Cool movie but far from even Arnie's best effort.
Predator for one.........
Yeah one of my absolute favourite action movies, and the last outing where Arnie was really "Arnie"!!
I still remember so vividly my older brother taking me to the cinema in year 8 and watching it.
I can't really fault the movie, it's easily in the best few action movies ever IMO.
Die Hard, Predetor, T2 are all equally godly. Movies were so awesome back then compared to the utter shit they trot out most of the time nowdays.
lifelike_
26 Oct 2007, 11:27
It's by far one of the best action movies made.
rupert pupkin 87
26 Oct 2007, 11:33
Mad Max 2= Greatest action movie of all time
love the canal chase scene with the dramatic music, something that the crane chase scene in T3 was missing
the effects in T2 were ahead of its time for 1991 and could easily pass as a 2007 movie
Agree with that, it doesn't look outdated. After seeing it at the cinema when i was about 9, and the subsequent viewings... the technology used in the film doesn't seem old hand and is definatly a lot better than the pathetic cgi used in most of the movies in recent years.
EG: I liked the look of the Terminator vision in T1 & T2 (red screen, with the white target and computerised text)... but in T3, it was different and to me didn't look as good.
I saw the movie soooooo many times when i was younger, i eventually got tired of watching it, when the Ultimate Edition came out over here (in the leadup to T3's cinema release) i watched it for the first time in years and fell in love with it again.
Die Hard is the greatest action movie of all time...
T2 is cool though
I'd agree with that also.
For those of us that like action movies the 80's/90's were a golden era - Arnie, Bruce Willis, Harrison Ford.
We barely get action movies these days. Or at least any that are good enough to sit alongside the likes of Die Hard, Terminator, Predator, Indiana Jones, etc.
We barely get action movies these days. Or at least any that are good enough to sit alongside the likes of Die Hard, Terminator, Predator, Indiana Jones, etc.
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VERSES
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CASE CLOSED!
Admiral Afterworld
26 Oct 2007, 15:18
The Terminator is probably the best movie of the series. I suppose it's more story orientated than action orientated than the others, but I think it's good for what it is.
Terminator 2: Judgment Day I also like, however I think it's one of those movies that if you see it more than once within two years it loses it's fun. Incidently, it is airing this Saturday on Ten for the six millionth time.
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines was very ordinary stuff. It was basically the same as Terminator 2: Judgment Day but the kid has grown up and there's a bunch more special effects. A movie that existed purely for those involved to make easy money.
romanwfw
26 Oct 2007, 16:02
Yeah one of my absolute favourite action movies, and the last outing where Arnie was really "Arnie"!!
I still remember so vividly my older brother taking me to the cinema in year 8 and watching it.
I can't really fault the movie, it's easily in the best few action movies ever IMO.
Die Hard, Predetor, T2 are all equally godly. Movies were so awesome back then compared to the utter shit they trot out most of the time nowdays.
absolutely agree. we just dont have the "actors" for these roles anymore
romanwfw
26 Oct 2007, 16:04
I'd agree with that also.
For those of us that like action movies the 80's/90's were a golden era - Arnie, Bruce Willis, Harrison Ford.
We barely get action movies these days. Or at least any that are good enough to sit alongside the likes of Die Hard, Terminator, Predator, Indiana Jones, etc.
even stallone would kick any of the current crop right now
johnny rambo!!
chickens_law
26 Oct 2007, 16:53
Commando = 2nd best action movie by Arnold.
Nothing beats the dramatic end of T2 when he lowers himself into the pit of molten iron and his hand gives a thumbs up before disappearing.
I was a blubbering mess.
I'd be inclined to agree with the thread starter. T2 is ****ing awesome and never gets old - I'll be making sure to catch the screening this Saturday.
Jeffers
26 Oct 2007, 22:05
T2 is probably my favourite movie of all time let alone action movie.
No one can kick ass these days unlike Bruce and Arnie.
btw, Am i the only one that loved Terminator 3? I thought it was pretty good.
Mr Magoo
27 Oct 2007, 07:39
Cool movie but far from even Arnie's best effort.
Predator for one.........
& True Lies ... :thumbsu:
sandeano
27 Oct 2007, 07:55
Yes, there are some elaborate and well-staged action sequences, but T2 is not a patch on the original.
The first film was a B-movie (in the best sense of the term), made on a low-ish budget with an aesthetic suitably limited and narrative logic that was full of holes, but happily kept things simple and avoided much scrutiny.
Most importantly, Arnie was a bad guy.
The sequel ran half an hour longer, had nearly 20 times the budget and, no longer able to sneak under the radar, was forced to fill screentime with endless blather explaining itself.
Its greatest cinematic crime - Arnie is a good guy.
The first film was lean and mean, the second bloated and indulgent.
Haven't bothered with the third.
MagpieScouser
27 Oct 2007, 09:20
the scene in T2 where the T1000 is on a motorbike and smashes through a building onto a helicopter is just freakin awsome
Well they are good action flicks mentioned but I think the best action movie is the Matrix II, the highway chase scenes were amazing. But I am sure I wont get much agreement.
ManWithNoName
27 Oct 2007, 22:46
Well they are good action flicks mentioned but I think the best action movie is the Matrix II, the highway chase scenes were amazing. But I am sure I wont get much agreement.
Matrix 2 was one of the worst sequels in history.
That's right, I AM comparing it to Superman 4 and Batman & Robin.
The_Eagles
28 Oct 2007, 04:42
Yes, there are some elaborate and well-staged action sequences, but T2 is not a patch on the original.
The first film was a B-movie (in the best sense of the term), made on a low-ish budget with an aesthetic suitably limited and narrative logic that was full of holes, but happily kept things simple and avoided much scrutiny.
Most importantly, Arnie was a bad guy.
The sequel ran half an hour longer, had nearly 20 times the budget and, no longer able to sneak under the radar, was forced to fill screentime with endless blather explaining itself.
Its greatest cinematic crime - Arnie is a good guy.
The first film was lean and mean, the second bloated and indulgent.
Haven't bothered with the third.
The T - 1000 is a total bad ass.
Dry Rot
28 Oct 2007, 09:24
Yes, there are some elaborate and well-staged action sequences, but T2 is not a patch on the original.
The first film was a B-movie (in the best sense of the term), made on a low-ish budget with an aesthetic suitably limited and narrative logic that was full of holes, but happily kept things simple and avoided much scrutiny.
Most importantly, Arnie was a bad guy.
The sequel ran half an hour longer, had nearly 20 times the budget and, no longer able to sneak under the radar, was forced to fill screentime with endless blather explaining itself.
Its greatest cinematic crime - Arnie is a good guy.
The first film was lean and mean, the second bloated and indulgent.
Haven't bothered with the third.
Totally agree. The first film had eerie creepy remorseless and bleak qualities and a real edge, the second just showy and spectacular without the real tenson of the first.
And yes a "good" terminator doesn't work. And good computer effects are no substitute for a good story.
Pity more people haven't seen the Wages of Fear....
Mr Eagle
28 Oct 2007, 10:04
btw, Am i the only one that loved Terminator 3? I thought it was pretty good.
I thought it was good - not a patch on its predecessors, of course, but considering the amount of doomsaying that was going on prior to its release I thought the final product was a fair effort.
SunKing
28 Oct 2007, 10:30
"cough" Cobra
Anyway T2 is an excellent movie,great action, comedy and pathos at the end. But agree with those that say that T1 was the best,lean mean and grim.
Also prefer Die Hard.
Total_Juddshanks
28 Oct 2007, 11:53
btw, Am i the only one that loved Terminator 3? I thought it was pretty good.
Yep, I went along expecting dross, and left thinking it was actually pretty good- not bad action scenes, some visually dazzling moments, and didn't take itself too seriously. Love the scene where Dr Silverman is discussing how he used to have delusions about seeing terminators but is cured now, and then bumps into Arnie in black, toting a minigun and a coffin of all things. :D Its rather a pity that Judgment day happened, because they could have have made T4 about the years of therapy that guy is going to need.
Re T2, I love that movie so much it hurts. Watch it every time its on ch10, and every time it still rocks hard.
So many great moments, so many awesome things about it.
Saw it for, must have been the one hundredth time on Channel Teen!! The movie is brilliant, it never gets old!! One of the two best movies starring Arnie, I happen to forget the other one (which involved clones and bring people back from the dead).
ManWithNoName
31 Oct 2007, 22:54
The 6th Day. I reckon that's a great film. Not better than Predator, The Terminator, Kindergarten Cop or Commando though.
TurboHead
31 Oct 2007, 23:26
Last boy scout???
Come on, no love for Action Jackson and Black Dog :p:D
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Nah seriously, cool thread. Arnie FTW!
One of my fav things is to have a booze and blow shit up movie night with my mates. Our favourites that get trotted out again and again
1. Commando
2. T2
3. Die Hard 1
4. Raiders
5. Predator
6. Gladiator (I'm calling it action, the drama's just fancy window dressing for the blood and guts)
7. Saving Private Ryan
8. Rambo III
Again, most of these aren't for technical "excellence", just good bloke films.
Whoever said Matrix 2:thumbsd::thumbsd:
1. Commando
2. T2
3. Die Hard 1
4. Raiders
5. Predator
6. Gladiator (I'm calling it action, the drama's just fancy window dressing for the blood and guts)
7. Saving Private Ryan
8. Rambo III
Great list that. You could easily add Aliens, Robocop, Starship Troopers and Total Recall too ;)
Aliens is godly.
Bloodsport and kickboxer are up there. Only decent van damme movies. Maybe universal soldier...
Shinboner '07
2 Oct 2008, 00:01
T2 never gets old... easily the best action film for mine, with Predator a close second:thumbsu:
Funkyzeit mit Matt
2 Oct 2008, 12:21
Hard Target with Van Damme was an A grade action flick.
Awesome concept and great performances.
An action movie can never go wrong with a South African bad guy. Especially this one.
http://www.premiere.fr/var/premiere/storage/images/diaporama/chasse-a-l-homme/chasse-a-l-homme-hard-target-1993__9/2077752-1-fre-FR/chasse_a_l_homme_hard_target_1993_reference.jpg
"It appears your trophy is ripping us a new orifice"
footylover18
2 Oct 2008, 14:28
It set a new standard for special effects.
ManWithNoName
2 Oct 2008, 22:38
Hard Target with Van Damme was an A grade action flick.
Awesome concept and great performances.
An action movie can never go wrong with a South African bad guy. Especially this one.
http://www.premiere.fr/var/premiere/storage/images/diaporama/chasse-a-l-homme/chasse-a-l-homme-hard-target-1993__9/2077752-1-fre-FR/chasse_a_l_homme_hard_target_1993_reference.jpg
"It appears your trophy is ripping us a new orifice"
Is that Ihmotep from The Mummy movies?
Funkyzeit mit Matt
2 Oct 2008, 22:40
Sure is. Dude is one hell of an actor.
Valentino Dmitri
2 Oct 2008, 22:51
I always felt that Van Damme played Ultimate Warrior to Schwarzenegger's Hulk Hogan. I liked him in Street Fighter though :thumbsu:
Funkyzeit mit Matt
2 Oct 2008, 22:52
The Ultimate Warrior once beat Hogan though. And within the rules aswell.
I think Hard Target was the pinfall.
Valentino Dmitri
2 Oct 2008, 23:05
That is true. But Warrior and Van Damme both squandered their opportunities, while Hogan and Schwarzenegger went about their business with dignity. Well, as much dignity as steriod freak musclemen can get away with. But at least they didn't do shit like this.
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kookadog
3 Oct 2008, 00:46
Yes, Best action Movie ever.
HoldenMagroin
3 Oct 2008, 01:10
The Running Man is one of Arnie's best :thumbsu: It's action with bite.
The Running Man is one of Arnie's best :thumbsu: It's action with bite.
Agreed. It's awesome :thumbsu:
Apologies for the bump....
They played Terminator 2 again last night, first time since March/April (from memory). They actually played the special edition (with Kyle Reese dream sequence, but other additions etc).... but left out the Future Coda ending :eek: (open for debate, the road travelling sequence is the better ending, but still would have liked to see the movie 'complete').
I thought it was strange, they were obviously using the old out dated tape version. Last time it was on, it was perfect widescreen, last night it was a crappy 4:3 source, that was stretched (but not quite enough to make it 'widescreen'). Should have just played it direct from the dvd.
scooterb
1 Nov 2008, 10:18
Eraser is on tonight.
I'm already hard in anticipation.
I agree fully with the OP, although many of the action movies listed here are OK to awesome.
I will not be arguing OP's valid point.
Rooface
22 Nov 2008, 02:21
the scene in T2 where the T1000 is on a motorbike and smashes through a building onto a helicopter is just freakin awsome
Yes it is.
Crash Davis
3 Sep 2011, 22:16
On again tonight, remember when it first came out. Was just about the biggest thing to happen in 1991.
Sensational movie, never get sick of the action sequences and would have one of the best good guy/bad guy combinations in movie history.
It's my " itchy and Scratchy movie "
Sidenote - I actually got suspended from school few days before it's release so my oldies grounded me for the day when all my mates and birds were going to see it - GUTTED !!!
" Ahneed yoclose yobooss anyomoddorsykle "
Ahh similar to my post in November 2008, i am going to rant about the film again :p. I noticed that Channel 7 were playing the theatrical cut, yet unlike when Channel 10 last aired it.... it was likely the side cut version.... yet they zoomed in so that the black side bars weren't shown. It annoyed me that the sides were chopped off and things looked extra zoomed in compared to normal (eg: the computer screen parts, like when the T-1000 accesses the database in the cop car in the beginning of the movie). I actually didn't mind it too much as some of the effects look better when broadcast this way..... rather than when shown in widescreen via the dvd (eg: the bullet penetration of the T-1000).
It reminds me a lot of whenever Channel 10 used to play Ghostbusters / Ghostbusters 2, always using the same old tv broadcast version as opposed to a more up to date version like the dvd (i find the special effects look much better in full screen, than they do on dvd....).
That said i didn't watch all of T2 last night (only watched the dvd recently), i just like comparing the tv airing to the dvd...... have always wondered why they don't always use the dvd copy as the main "source" to air on tv.
I'll repeat what i have already said in this thread a number of times, T2 was my ultimate movie as a kid. Watched it so many times including at the cinema, watched the home video release many times over the years.... that i actually stopped watching it for a few years, didn't start watching it yearly once again until the release of the Ultimate Edition dvd.
While T2 is the ultimate action movie as it does so much right, and it is one of my favorites. I still prefer the first movie out of the Terminator franchise, i love the story and how it played out. But Terminator 2 is a great continuation with the characters.
Juggalo Balla
4 Sep 2011, 12:56
The T-1000 was no pussy.
Killing dudes with liquid metal blades and mimicking their voices was psycho to the max. :thumbsu:
These days the actor playing the bad guy is trying to be so cool he's actually a good guy (Rock in the new Fast n Furious)
whats_at_stake
5 Sep 2011, 17:50
Agree with the OP, T2 was brilliant. Too bad T3 was a let down. Still have not seen the newer one- any good?
Punchy Bassett
5 Sep 2011, 18:48
Agree with the OP, T2 was brilliant. Too bad T3 was a let down. Still have not seen the newer one- any good?
It's crap, I wish they had gone with the original ending of T2 now with Sarah Connor being an old lady in the future, would have spared us the last two films pissing on the memory of the first two.
Atavistic
5 Sep 2011, 20:15
Yes, there are some elaborate and well-staged action sequences, but T2 is not a patch on the original.
The first film was a B-movie (in the best sense of the term), made on a low-ish budget with an aesthetic suitably limited and narrative logic that was full of holes, but happily kept things simple and avoided much scrutiny.
The first film was lean and mean, the second bloated and indulgent.
Totally agree. The first film had eerie creepy remorseless and bleak qualities and a real edge, the second just showy and spectacular without the real tenson of the first.
I kind of agree with these views. The Terminator is better than the sequel as it didn't have the cheesiness, was more gritty and it had one of the best massacre scenes ever. But T2 had that awesome chase scene with the truck, the Todd death scene and the excellent climax. The body count was also disappointingly low in the sequel. The T-1000 may have seemed badass, but it didn't go on a killing spree in a police station.
Dixie Flatline
6 Sep 2011, 10:33
IMO, The Terminator was and is a far superior film than Terminator 2: Judgment Day. Arnie was so much more believable as a villain than a hero. Watching The Terminator, the reaction of Reese and Connor to the remorselessness of the Terminator is much more believable than in Terminator 2. This helps to build the film to a fast finish. Hard to believe that Arnold established the villainy of the Terminator with just 65 words of dialogue. It was all in the way he moved.
There are some interesting storylines that could be explored in Terminator 2, but they are not wrapped up nicely.
However, it was a good touch that the casting director, producers and James Cameron chose not to select another muscle-bound knucklehead for the role of the T-1000, but went with the much more ordinary-looking Robert Patrick for the role. It made for a real contrast with Arnie's Terminator.
As for the "thumbs-up" at the end, that was so cliched.
FWIW, I rate The Terminator and Aliens as being superior action films to Terminator 2.
Byron_Clanger
6 Sep 2011, 11:35
Uncle Bob, this is Enrique....Uncle Bob?
It's crap, I wish they had gone with the original ending of T2 now with Sarah Connor being an old lady in the future, would have spared us the last two films pissing on the memory of the first two.I agree.
The series ended at II for me.
#3 and #4 were watchable, but I tend to consider them spinoffs; no more genuine than that abomination of a TV show.
For me it ended with them preventing Judgement Day, as, like they said throughought, "there is no fate but what we make"; not this "Judgement Day is inevitable" nonsense from the 3rd.
Just on the bold, what are you referring to? I own the original version on DVD, so my ending is the panning over the highway with narration.
Juggalo Balla
6 Sep 2011, 12:52
Don't be silly. You can't prevent judgement day (or people selling the rights to their storyline on to other parties) :p
Punchy Bassett
6 Sep 2011, 13:19
I agree.
The series ended at II for me.
#3 and #4 were watchable, but I tend to consider them spinoffs; no more genuine than that abomination of a TV show.
For me it ended with them preventing Judgement Day, as, like they said throughought, "there is no fate but what we make"; not this "Judgement Day is inevitable" nonsense from the 3rd.
Just on the bold, what are you referring to? I own the original version on DVD, so my ending is the panning over the highway with narration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=780llTKt3uM
Was on my Blu Ray release of it.
Cheers, I'll have to check it out on my break.
I laughed at the comment:
0:51 Why isn't that guy ridding on a hoverboard?
Fossie 32
7 Sep 2011, 23:37
I like it in T2 when the Terminator goes past a shop window with a dummy in it and looks at it like 'Hmm....... a relative' similar to the monster in Men In Black sympathising with a cockroach
Cheers, I'll have to check it out on my break.
I laughed at the comment:
0:51 Why isn't that guy ridding on a hoverboard?
Its on the deleted scenes on the special edition DVD which I bought years ago, but I prefer the original ending. Its funny when she mentions that Michael Jackson just turned 50. Must have been just before he died:D