View Full Version : Brendan Murphy; Ireland's answer to Judd.
scottwade
9 Nov 2007, 01:18
Well at least Tadhg isn't putting him under pressure. :D
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22727339%255E20322,00.html
A TEENAGE apprentice electrician from the tiny village of Rathvilly in County Carlow is Ireland's answer to AFL superstar Chris Judd, according to fellow countryman Tadhg Kennelly.
It's a huge rap for Brendan Murphy, who is rated the most talented young Gaelic footballer in Ireland, but Kennelly believes the lanky 18-year-old is going to be the real deal once he makes the transition to AFL.
"He (Murphy) is big, big news," Kennelly said.
"He wouldn't be quite the hype of Chris Judd at 18 years old but not far, far off.
Murphy, a 195cm tall, super athletic midfielder for Carlow stood out in this year's Gaelic football finals because of his phenomenal skills.
Horsebox
9 Nov 2007, 03:02
Tadhg is developing an annoying habit of talking complete sh*te. Who exactly has rated Brendan Murphy the most talented young Gaelic footballer in Ireland? I can think of plenty of lads I'd rate ahead of him.
is2SWaNz
9 Nov 2007, 09:04
Tadhg is probably keeping us up on our toes. He does sound promising, but i'm not letting my feet off of the ground at this stage.
Talk it up Tadhg. :D Not even sure if Brendan knows Chris Judd.
natlovestheswans
9 Nov 2007, 09:50
Tadhg is developing an annoying habit of talking complete sh*te.
That's why we love him!
Anywho, i can't wait to see his new Irish kid around. I'll have to watch the reserves first home match this year, for sure.
Tadhg is developing an annoying habit of talking complete sh*te. Who exactly has rated Brendan Murphy the most talented young Gaelic footballer in Ireland? I can think of plenty of lads I'd rate ahead of him.
We ll it's officially a slow Aussie Rules news period for the next few months, so anything that gets the Swans on the box is alright with me. :thumbsu:
bloods01
9 Nov 2007, 11:24
We will need an Irish replacement once Tadhg leaves. He said 2009 will be his last year. I truley hope the club can convince him to since another 2 or 3 year deal. He is so important to us. He sete us up maginificantly from defence. Was sorely missed this year.
We will need an Irish replacement once Tadhg leaves. He said 2009 will be his last year. I truley hope the club can convince him to since another 2 or 3 year deal. He is so important to us. He sete us up maginificantly from defence. Was sorely missed this year.
Hopefully the arrival of Brendan (and others over the years) will add some flavour to Tadhg's leadership role at the club and encourage him to stay on and assist with the development of Irish players - but having Tiger as a former Premiership Player, blessed with local knowledge and with a few grandiose stories to tell of his adventures Downunder, as an Irish Based Recruiter doesn't sound too bad from a SSFC standpoint either. :thumbsu:
smiddaz123
9 Nov 2007, 13:19
The same was said about Marty Clarke, and he turned out alright
Looks like you guys have cleaned up in the draft by getting this guy and Craig Bird for next to nothing.
The same was said about Marty Clarke, and he turned out alright
Looks like you guys have cleaned up in the draft by getting this guy and Craig Bird for next to nothing.
I think we have done quite well so far in regards to the draft. It will be interesting to see who the Swans pick up for pick 11 in the national draft as it is the highest pick we have had in many years.
Tadhg is developing an annoying habit of talking complete sh*te. Who exactly has rated Brendan Murphy the most talented young Gaelic footballer in Ireland? I can think of plenty of lads I'd rate ahead of him.
Poachers worry Irish
31 July 2007 Herald Sun
Mark Stevens
Spurred by the instant success of Gaelic convert Martin Clarke at Collingwood, other clubs are also circling.
County Meath stars Shane O'Rourke and Kevin Reilly and Laois full-forward Conor Meredith have also attracted attention. County boards in Ireland are becoming increasingly restless about the threat of losing their best talent. Poaching is likely to become the hottest issue when the GAA and AFL meet in October - overtaking the future of the International Rules Series.
GAA secretary of County Carlow Tommy O'Neill last night said it would be "heart-wrenching" if Murphy was lured to the AFL.
Murphy, a 194cm 18-year-old, is considered the most exciting young talent in Ireland. His loss would be a huge blow to the minnow county, which has a population of only 35,000.
"He's very good. He was in the Leinster final for us over here a couple of weeks ago and he was best player on the field by a mile," O'Neill. "He's very slight, but full of skill - left foot and right foot.
"It's one of the downsides over here of guys being so good that they're being looked at. It is heart-wrenching here, because we're small."
Lions football manager Graeme Allan and recruiting manager Craig Brittain recently returned from a talent-spotting trip to Ireland and Murphy is the No. 1 priority.
Tadhg is developing an annoying habit of talking complete sh*te. Who exactly has rated Brendan Murphy the most talented young Gaelic footballer in Ireland? I can think of plenty of lads I'd rate ahead of him.
well said, though i get the feeling you suffer from the same problem..
Onto our newest arrival, he looked good getting off the plane, big wraps on him, if he can turn out like Clarke did this year, then we have a gooden.. good size about him, a couple of pre seasons into him and we got a nice spine starting to appear. White, Grundy, Currie, Murphy, The Queenslander, Pick 11 (kpp prospect please)..
From what I have heard, he is taller than Goodes but is quicker over 20 meters and the 3km time trial.
If he can learn how to use an oval ball he is going to be a player you can build a club around, especially if he chooses to play forward.
DST
:D
Horsebox
9 Nov 2007, 23:03
Poachers worry Irish
31 July 2007 Herald Sun
Mark Stevens
Spurred by the instant success of Gaelic convert Martin Clarke at Collingwood, other clubs are also circling.
County Meath stars Shane O'Rourke and Kevin Reilly and Laois full-forward Conor Meredith have also attracted attention. County boards in Ireland are becoming increasingly restless about the threat of losing their best talent. Poaching is likely to become the hottest issue when the GAA and AFL meet in October - overtaking the future of the International Rules Series.
GAA secretary of County Carlow Tommy O'Neill last night said it would be "heart-wrenching" if Murphy was lured to the AFL.
Murphy, a 194cm 18-year-old, is considered the most exciting young talent in Ireland. His loss would be a huge blow to the minnow county, which has a population of only 35,000.
"He's very good. He was in the Leinster final for us over here a couple of weeks ago and he was best player on the field by a mile," O'Neill. "He's very slight, but full of skill - left foot and right foot.
"It's one of the downsides over here of guys being so good that they're being looked at. It is heart-wrenching here, because we're small."
Lions football manager Graeme Allan and recruiting manager Craig Brittain recently returned from a talent-spotting trip to Ireland and Murphy is the No. 1 priority.
"This journalist is considered not to know a whole lot about the underage GAA scene in Ireland." See what I did there? Throw in that someone is "considered" to be something and it makes it sound like a viewpoint that is supported by other people. When it isn't.:D
Horsebox
9 Nov 2007, 23:06
well said, though i get the feeling you suffer from the same problem..
Onto our newest arrival, he looked good getting off the plane, big wraps on him, if he can turn out like Clarke did this year, then we have a gooden.. good size about him, a couple of pre seasons into him and we got a nice spine starting to appear. White, Grundy, Currie, Murphy, The Queenslander, Pick 11 (kpp prospect please)..
Explain the logic behind this remark. Careful now, I've been described as "The Irish Barry Hall".
"This journalist is considered not to know a whole lot about the underage GAA scene in Ireland." See what I did there? Throw in that someone is "considered" to be something and it makes it sound like a viewpoint that is supported by other people. When it isn't.:D
Agree, but the next line quoting "He's very good. He was in the Leinster final for us over here a couple of weeks ago and he was best player on the field by a mile," would suggest there is merit in the statement.
From all reports he was both Brisbane's and Collingwood's first target and both those clubs along with Sydney and Carlton seem to be the only clubs at present doing real work on the ground to uncover young talent.
DST
:D
Horsebox
10 Nov 2007, 03:09
Agree, but the next line quoting "He's very good. He was in the Leinster final for us over here a couple of weeks ago and he was best player on the field by a mile," would suggest there is merit in the statement.
From all reports he was both Brisbane's and Collingwood's first target and both those clubs along with Sydney and Carlton seem to be the only clubs at present doing real work on the ground to uncover young talent.
DST
:D
The team Carlow lost to in the Leinster final (Laois) had at least 4 players I would pick ahead of him if I had the choice. The 4 I am talking about have already been approached and at least one is heading to Oz next year (to Carlton). Think the other 3 turned the recruiters down (or postponed making any decision). Don't get me wrong, Murphys a very good player but it is seriously stretching things to say he was the best player in his age group in the country.
rebelcounty
10 Nov 2007, 10:59
Oh it absolutley sucks for the "minnows" like it's one thing when we (ie..Cork) loose Shields and O hAilpin we'll get over that, we have gotten over Seanty like. But Seanty may have been a jewel in a crown for Cork, but we've plenty more where that came from. Carlow don't. Like Clarke he was supposed to be their future, and as we can see now, it hasn't gone to plan. The clubs and counties, (come to think of it I don't think I've ever seen Carlow play a match and I love GAA) most feel hard done by, especially the clubs, all that time and effort for nothing. Ah well, good luck to him.
"This journalist is considered not to know a whole lot about the underage GAA scene in Ireland." See what I did there? Throw in that someone is "considered" to be something and it makes it sound like a viewpoint that is supported by other people. When it isn't.:D
You have a rather rude way about you, don't you? I have absolutely no knowledge or interest in Gaelic football but you asked a question - Tadhg is developing an annoying habit of talking complete sh*te. Who exactly has rated Brendan Murphy the most talented young Gaelic footballer in Ireland? I can think of plenty of lads I'd rate ahead of him.and I remembered reading an article stating exactly that so I thought I would post it for your information. Try and be a little more polite in responses from now on please.
Even if he's not THE top young prospect in Ireland, I'm more than happy to have him over as a rookie.
In fact I think we should try grab a young Irish player every single year, even if only 1 of 3 works out, it would still be great for us (since it's only a rookie list player). If it doesn't work out, than the young Irish player heads back to Ireland after spending a year training in a professional setup and pocketing 30 grand or so.
Horsebox
10 Nov 2007, 23:00
You have a rather rude way about you, don't you? I have absolutely no knowledge or interest in Gaelic football but you asked a question - and I remembered reading an article stating exactly that so I thought I would post it for your information. Try and be a little more polite in responses from now on please.
You are very sensitive for an aussie bloke!:D
scottwade
10 Nov 2007, 23:43
The team Carlow lost to in the Leinster final (Laois) had at least 4 players I would pick ahead of him if I had the choice. The 4 I am talking about have already been approached and at least one is heading to Oz next year (to Carlton). Think the other 3 turned the recruiters down (or postponed making any decision). Don't get me wrong, Murphys a very good player but it is seriously stretching things to say he was the best player in his age group in the country.
I'm happy to accept Tadhg may have overstated Murphy's case just a tad. :D
However would the other players you have identified be 194 cm (6ft 4 1/2in)?
It is interesting that Kennelly (190cm). O'Mahony (who we brought out for the 2003 season - 194cm ) and now Murphy (194cm) are with the exception of the O'Hailpins (both @200cm), IIRC the tallest players brought out here.
And the O'Hailpins, as I understand it, have primarily a hurling rather than football background.
It would appear that Sydney have a policy of recruiting talls from Ireland, perhaps on the basis that their athleticism & height is harder to find downunder, whereas a player similar to Marty Clarke is easier to find.
Horsebox
10 Nov 2007, 23:58
Well there's a guy called Donal Kingston that plays for Laois and he is near enough the same height as Murphy but I'd say he's about 10kg heavier. He wouldn't be as fast as Murphy though but he is extremely accurate in front of the posts and has great hands too. He's tailor made for CHF. The scary thing is that he has another year left at u-18 level! There is another guy playing for Laois, John O'Loughlin is his name, and he is strong as an ox and a natural leader. He also plays hurling too so he's a bit nuts. I've no doubt either of those guys would be physically ready for the AFL after a good pre-season. But as far as I know, both have been approached and both have said no thanks.
Well there's a guy called Donal Kingston that plays for Laois and he is near enough the same height as Murphy but I'd say he's about 10kg heavier. He wouldn't be as fast as Murphy though but he is extremely accurate in front of the posts and has great hands too. He's tailor made for CHF. The scary thing is that he has another year left at u-18 level! There is another guy playing for Laois, John O'Loughlin is his name, and he is strong as an ox and a natural leader. He also plays hurling too so he's a bit nuts. I've no doubt either of those guys would be physically ready for the AFL after a good pre-season. But as far as I know, both have been approached and both have said no thanks.
The Swans need another O'Loughlin as our current one will be retiring in afew years.
CharlieG
11 Nov 2007, 07:36
I'm happy to accept Tadhg may have overstated Murphy's case just a tad. :D
However would the other players you have identified be 194 cm (6ft 4 1/2in)?
It is interesting that Kennelly (190cm). O'Mahony (who we brought out for the 2003 season - 194cm ) and now Murphy (194cm) are with the exception of the O'Hailpins (both @200cm), IIRC the tallest players brought out here.
Jim Stynes might have something to say about that. ;)
is2SWaNz
11 Nov 2007, 11:00
You are very sensitive for an aussie bloke!:D
And thats the problem, she isn't a bloke... :D
Horsebox
11 Nov 2007, 11:20
And thats the problem, she isn't a bloke... :D
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh (sound of penny dropping). I apologise.
Still though, you are pretty sensitive for an aussie sheila!:p
scottwade
11 Nov 2007, 14:30
Jim Stynes might have something to say about that. ;)
Well of course I meant in recent times.
And that's my story and I'm sticking to it. :D
And thats the problem, she isn't a bloke... :D
Thanks Is.. :)
Still though, you are pretty sensitive for an aussie sheila!:p
I am also NOT a SHEILA. I am a WOMAN!
I am not sensitive, I cannot abide rudeness.
Nor can I abide the term "sheila" .
Horsebox
11 Nov 2007, 21:48
I was in no way, shape or form rude to you. You put up an article by an australian journalist in response to my question about who considers Brendan Murphy to be the best player in his age group in Ireland. I pointed out the problem with the article (and made no reference to YOU whatsoever). So unless you actually wrote the article you have no real reason to get so precious about the whole thing.
zebbitty
12 Nov 2007, 05:59
you both sound like whiny bitches
Horsebox
12 Nov 2007, 07:57
Miaow.
Miaow.
Hahaha, yep, what he said ^^^^
I was in no way, shape or form rude to you. You put up an article by an australian journalist in response to my question about who considers Brendan Murphy to be the best player in his age group in Ireland. I pointed out the problem with the article (and made no reference to YOU whatsoever). So unless you actually wrote the article you have no real reason to get so precious about the whole thing.
The term 'Sheila' is generally derogatory though, just in case you didn't know that.
Michaelg
12 Nov 2007, 15:43
The term 'Sheila' is generally derogatory though, just in case you didn't know that.
No it isn't. And yes, he was pretty abrasive.
rancidpants13
12 Nov 2007, 16:04
Thanks Is.. :)
I am also NOT a SHEILA. I am a WOMAN!
I am not sensitive, I cannot abide rudeness.
Nor can I abide the term "sheila" .
i have to say, you DO seem to have overreacted and, going by what gets chucked around on the main board, i'd suggest you'd be happier avoiding ever going there
our irish chum used a coupla colloquialisms, is about all i can see, apart from offering some fairly educated comments about the state of gaelic football and its players, something i admit to being totally ignorant of
but certainly, going on what i've been called by various weagles, carlton, collingwood, hawthorn, roos and essendon fans in the past 6 months or so, you've overreacted....i detected no rudeness whatsoever and welcome any further offerings from the ireland contingent
Horsebox
13 Nov 2007, 00:02
Apologies if I seemed a little abrupt (it wasn't intentional) but it does get a bit frustrating reading things on bigfooty from time to time that relate to the GAA and Ireland. I was actually looking at a collingwood forum (not BF) the other day and they all seemed to think that at the moment GAA players are on strike until they get paid for playing which is completely inaccurate. Anyway, I must learn not to get annoyed over such things as you are on the far side of the planet so the odd mistake is understandable! What I would say is this, if you want to know about what is going on in Ireland and which players are good etc. ask one of the Irish BF posters. We'll happily bore you to tears about the prospects of some u-15 wing back from Roscommon!:D
Apologies if I seemed a little abrupt (it wasn't intentional) but it does get a bit frustrating reading things on bigfooty from time to time that relate to the GAA and Ireland. I was actually looking at a collingwood forum (not BF) the other day and they all seemed to think that at the moment GAA players are on strike until they get paid for playing which is completely inaccurate. Anyway, I must learn not to get annoyed over such things as you are on the far side of the planet so the odd mistake is understandable! What I would say is this, if you want to know about what is going on in Ireland and which players are good etc. ask one of the Irish BF posters. We'll happily bore you to tears about the prospects of some u-15 wing back from Roscommon!:D
Yes people on AFL forums do like to talk about Gaelic Football even though most of us have a very basic understanding of the game. If i ever go to Ireland i will make sure i attend afew Gaelic Football matches.
is2SWaNz
13 Nov 2007, 14:11
Apologies if I seemed a little abrupt (it wasn't intentional) but it does get a bit frustrating reading things on bigfooty from time to time that relate to the GAA and Ireland. I was actually looking at a collingwood forum (not BF) the other day and they all seemed to think that at the moment GAA players are on strike until they get paid for playing which is completely inaccurate. Anyway, I must learn not to get annoyed over such things as you are on the far side of the planet so the odd mistake is understandable! What I would say is this, if you want to know about what is going on in Ireland and which players are good etc. ask one of the Irish BF posters. We'll happily bore you to tears about the prospects of some u-15 wing back from Roscommon!:D
So you're an Irish BF poster? How exciting... and is it true that Murphy is BIG in Ireland?
rancidpants13
13 Nov 2007, 15:19
So you're an Irish BF poster? How exciting... and is it true that Murphy is BIG in Ireland?
read the early posts on this thread!!!
DeadlyAkkuret
13 Nov 2007, 17:23
So does this mean Judd is Australia's answer to Murphy?
DeadlyAkkuret
13 Nov 2007, 17:24
you both sound like whiny bitches
Quick, there's astill a chance for you to contribute to the thread in an educated manner!
*notices the team he supports*
Oh...:o
is2SWaNz
13 Nov 2007, 20:23
read the early posts on this thread!!!
Been there and done that. Besides, Horsebox only said (in his opinion) that other 'lads' are better than Murphy, but never said ANYTHING about if he was BIG in Ireland. There's a difference.
Horsebox
13 Nov 2007, 22:23
Been there and done that. Besides, Horsebox only said (in his opinion) that other 'lads' are better than Murphy, but never said ANYTHING about if he was BIG in Ireland. There's a difference.
He was very BIG in Carlow!:D
robbieando
13 Nov 2007, 22:37
He was very BIG in Carlow!:D
So any tip on who we can steal away from Ireland going forward into 2009. With the greatest respect that is because I now have Setanta Sports and they are going to be showing the GAA all of next year, so it would be good to now a) who to watch out for player wise with a view for recruitment for the Swans and b) who are the better GAA players and teams going into 2009.
Also so we know where you stand county wise, please tell us who you support in the GAA and maybe explain to us Aussies a thing or two about the GAA that we that don't already know and should know, going forward.
Benevolent Ert
13 Nov 2007, 22:37
He's 6 foot 5
That's plenty big
Horsebox
13 Nov 2007, 22:51
So any tip on who we can steal away from Ireland going forward into 2009. With the greatest respect that is because I now have Setanta Sports and they are going to be showing the GAA all of next year, so it would be good to now a) who to watch out for player wise with a view for recruitment for the Swans and b) who are the better GAA players and teams going into 2009.
Also so we know where you stand county wise, please tell us who you support in the GAA and maybe explain to us Aussies a thing or two about the GAA that we that don't already know and should know, going forward.
I am from Meath so you will forgive me if I don't mention any of our players as possible recruits! Kerry would be the kingpins of gaelic football and they are going for a 3rd All-Ireland in a row next year. Since Tadhg however I don't think I've heard of any AFL clubs approaching young Kerry players which seems a bit odd. The first meaningful GAA action will be the National League in the new year, however that is really only considered a training ground for blooding one or two new players before the real business starts i.e. the Championship in May.
rancidpants13
14 Nov 2007, 15:10
I am from Meath so you will forgive me if I don't mention any of our players as possible recruits! Kerry would be the kingpins of gaelic football and they are going for a 3rd All-Ireland in a row next year. Since Tadhg however I don't think I've heard of any AFL clubs approaching young Kerry players which seems a bit odd. The first meaningful GAA action will be the National League in the new year, however that is really only considered a training ground for blooding one or two new players before the real business starts i.e. the Championship in May.
meath is murder.....is that where the expression came from?....ahhh hee hee hee....ehhhh
Horsebox
16 Nov 2007, 08:19
Any training reports yet? Anyone seen Brendan in the flesh?
mitch820
16 Nov 2007, 10:47
Any training reports yet? Anyone seen Brendan in the flesh?
He's been on the news on Sports tonight, but I live in geelong so I haven't seen in in the flesh.
is2SWaNz
16 Nov 2007, 15:41
I haven't seen him in the flesh, but there has already been a report about Murphy on the Swans website. Not too sure about a training report though.
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/7106/Default.aspx?newsId=53121
Any training reports yet? Anyone seen Brendan in the flesh?.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,9191,22812452%255E20322,00.html
Here we go. 18 Year old comes in 3rd in the 3km time trial, Fosdike won of course but O'Keefe pipped murphs on the line but this is a great sign that Murphy is giving his all at training and ensuring he uses his strengths.
No shock to learn he is still adapting to the ball but seeing Tadhg's footskills should be very encouraging that the Irish can learn.
Horsebox
26 Nov 2007, 04:47
Michael Shields came 6th or 7th in the Carlton time trial and he plays in one of the less fitness-intensive positions in gaelic football. Marty Clarke won the Collingwood time trial and now Brendan came 3rd in his. Just goes to prove a point I've made to a number of aussie mates. Endurance wise gaelic footballers are easily as good as afl players. The difference is the upper body strength of afl players, which in the IR series allows them to wear down the Irish lads with tackling etc.
Michael Shields came 6th or 7th in the Carlton time trial and he plays in one of the less fitness-intensive positions in gaelic football. Marty Clarke won the Collingwood time trial and now Brendan came 3rd in his. Just goes to prove a point I've made to a number of aussie mates. Endurance wise gaelic footballers are easily as good as afl players. The difference is the upper body strength of afl players, which in the IR series allows them to wear down the Irish lads with tackling etc.
I surprised that people would think otherwise. Even with my severe limited knowledge of Gaelic Football (we really only get to watch the final each year), it's fairly obvious that Gaelic footballers runs more - and harder - in general (and in most positions bar the keeper) than the AFL counterparts.
And it's only logical that it's a on-going process since the gaelic footballers picked up a football when they are a kid. In my view, speed/endurance is always more hardwork than natural talent.
And that's why we need more Irish kids coming over here :p
Horsebox
1 Dec 2007, 10:54
Anybody seen him in action yet? I know Hanley is struggling with the heat in Brisbane. Will probably take the new irish recruits a bit of time to adapt to training in such high temperatures.