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Oasis, the cream of Manchester (Thought that was Boddies)? Or are they just the best tribute band the World has ever known. A souped up version of The Knack?
The Hitman
25 Jun 2002, 12:05
Neither, but closer to greatness. Some awesome Brit pop-rock goin' on there, and have survived for a long time now. Probably the leaders in their particular genre field.
The Hitman
S.J Rollin
25 Jun 2002, 12:28
I thought they were the ducks nuts when I first heard Definitely Maybe on the day it was released (in Oz) at a mates house... went out and bought it the next day (got a T-shirt with the CD as well which was a bonus).
Gave it an almighty flogging!...and the power in the walls of sound created by the guitars was quite awesome.
But by the time of that separately released single "Im Free" they were starting to sound too much like a rip off... supposed subliminal references and influences were too blatent and more fraudulent than anything.
I was going right off them just as they were really gaining momentum and everybody was talking about them. The final straw was hearing the opening riff to "Whats the Story" which is just the Day Tripper riff at a different speed with distortion. By the release of that LP I was so off them it was unbelievable.
I didnt stop liking them because they were now mega popular and I was already over them before i knew that their aniti-social antics were actually the norm. It was just that, if i wanted to listen to something that sounded like the Beatles, I could just put on a Beatles record.
Setting Sun is Noel's best work and thats because he provided the vocals only. Married with Children, Shakermaker and a few others off the debut are still the songs I like best... but it would take some restraint to stop me sinking the boot into a stereo that is playing Sally Can Wait.
Mcchawk
25 Jun 2002, 12:53
Great band, saw them live at Rod Laver/tennis centre Noel is great kept the crowd entertained with his wonderful acoustic set. Cast no shadow is my favourite Oasis song closely followed Don't go away, would like them to tour again (I hear late this year Livid) Liam and his antics are legendary .I look forward to their next album should be good I hope.
Regardles of whether you loke them or not, or whether you think they are a "rip-off" band, they still churn out pretty bloody good pop-rock songs!
I reckon the best thing to come from Oasis for some time was Noel Gallagher's revalation that the Black Rebel Motorcycle Club was his new favourite band, which is cool cause they rawk and are one of my faves too!!
Mcchawk
25 Jun 2002, 13:01
Originally posted by FIGJAM
I reckon the best thing to come from Oasis for some time was Noel Gallagher's revalation that the Black Rebel Motorcycle Club was his new favourite band, which is cool cause they rawk and are one of my faves too!!
Noel also always loves to talk up Australia's own You am I. Gotta love the man for his great taste alone
Originally posted by Mcchawk
Noel also always loves to talk up Australia's own You am I. Gotta love the man for his great taste alone
I actually think that Noel does have some talent, wasted, nontheless. Anyone under 35 wouldn't realise how dull they really are.
Blur, another Brit Pap band were always the more original.
Indie music really has sunk over the past 10-15 years.
Heh. I'll wait for Jod's reply. :)
lioness
25 Jun 2002, 20:32
Have really only heard the hits. Would have to hear more to make a proper judgement. :)
Wait till you here their new stuff and their can be no alternative but to throw them on the music scrap heap.
Originally posted by Mcchawk
Cast no shadow is my favourite Oasis song
Written for, or about "The Verve's" Richard Ashcroft.
I don't mind Oasis for some light listening, but I wouldn't personally regard them as musical genius, as much as they are just good songwriters and musicians.
The_Flying_Egg
26 Jun 2002, 01:05
Originally posted by BTige
I actually think that Noel does have some talent, wasted, nontheless. Anyone under 35 wouldn't realise how dull they really are.
Noels talent has been wasted by being in one of the worlds best, and most succesful bands?????????
And how does age make your taste more refined than us mere young people????
PrincessPark
26 Jun 2002, 01:28
Love 'em, love 'em, one of my favourite bands - "What's The Story (Morning Glory)?" arguably the album of the 90's [tough competition from Nirvana's "Nevermind"] and "Be Here Now" -highly underrated.
As an objective person, I can honestly say "Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants" blew goats but their new song is back to the old stadium rock style they do best.
I highly recommend "The Masterplan" to fans if they haven't heard it yet.
Oasis Rock!
Definitely Maybe and Whats the Story are pretty much the two best albums of the 90's. Be Here Now is a grossly underated album and there Masterplan album is a masterpiece. SOTSOG wasnt there best work but it was in all fairness there first album sober...or so i heard.
You all have your opinion...but to me Oasis are the best band of the last 10 years and who cares if they sound a lot like the Beatles, for anyone who doesnt know...thats actually a good thing because the last time i checked, The Beatles were the greatest band of all time!
Shinboners
26 Jun 2002, 08:51
Originally posted by BTige
Oasis, the cream of Manchester (Thought that was Boddies)?
Oasis? Cream of Manchester? They're not fit to drink the beer dregs of the Buzzcocks, Joy Division/New Order, The Fall, or The Smiths.
Or are they just the best tribute band the World has ever known. A souped up version of The Knack?
Classic. :D
sethlad
26 Jun 2002, 13:00
Love Definitely Maybe & Masterplan.WTSMG was brilliantly timed.
The rest, patchy at best.
Thought they were crap when they toured here,hard to believe anyone could have enjoyed that show,they seemed completely disinterested,support act was better.
Must say that they sound better in the UK for some reason,I guess the sound just fits but then again,who doesn't???
Nothing short of a miracle that they haven't killed each other.
The jury's out as far as I'm concerned.Hope they prove me wrong.
Shinboners
26 Jun 2002, 16:56
Originally posted by sethlad
Nothing short of a miracle that they haven't killed each other.
No miracle at all. The fights only seem to happen whenver they've got a single or album to promote. It's all marketing hype to get their names in the papers - nothing more, nothing less.
I have every Australian release Album's, Singles, DVD's, boxsets, and a few imports too.
The greatest. Without a doubt, my all time fav band EVER.
Many reasons, but they are just ****ing awesome.
Originally posted by Shinboners
No miracle at all. The fights only seem to happen whenver they've got a single or album to promote.
Not all the time. They're always beating the **** out of each other. Even when there is no album being released.
PrincessPark
28 Jun 2002, 00:39
Yep, read "Brothers" - the book written by their brother Paul.
You can see where they get it from, their Dad was a friggin' nutter.
Shinboners
28 Jun 2002, 10:34
Originally posted by PrincessPark
Yep, read "Brothers" - the book written by their brother Paul.
You can see where they get it from, their Dad was a friggin' nutter.
Or you can read "Don't Look Back In Anger" by Richard Kurt to find out what was true and what wasn't.
Oasis don't mind suing (remember when they took action to close down all those Oasis fan websites?), they haven't sued Kurt for anything that he's said in his book.
Originally posted by Shinboners
Oasis don't mind suing (remember when they took action to close down all those Oasis fan websites?)
That was sony that sued. Since then Noel has stated he dosen't care about what's on the internet.
PrincessPark
28 Jun 2002, 22:03
Yeah, I've read "Don't Look Back In Anger", and there is another one that is very ordinary, I think written by someone who used to be in The Rain with Noel and is bitter.
Richmondfan#1
28 Jun 2002, 22:07
"And all the lights that lead the way are blinding, and all the roads that lead the way are winding."
Oasis are good. Not great, not crap. Can produce very good songs (like Wonderwall!) but nothing is as good as sliced bread.
Originally posted by Richmondfan#1
but nothing is as good as sliced bread.
Who sang that?
oh_my_hat
29 Jun 2002, 13:41
Flash in the pan. It's over boys, hope you enjoyed your 15 minutes.
I read an article that mentioned Noel slagging off at Kylie because of her name - Kylie. One of the great thinkers of our time is Mr. Gallagher. ;)
lioness
29 Jun 2002, 13:44
Originally posted by jod23
The Beatles were the greatest band of all time!
:o
Originally posted by oh_my_hat
Flash in the pan. It's over boys, hope you enjoyed your 15 minutes.
Really? Presently at number 2 just behind Elvis, in the UK charts with their next great single Stop Crying Your Heart Out.
PrincessPark
29 Jun 2002, 21:24
Between 12pm midnight GMT 29 June (Saturday/today) and 12pm midnight 30 June The Official Oasis Website (http://www.oasisinet.com) will be streaming the whole of the new album "Heathen Chemistry".
Yay!
Originally posted by PrincessPark
Between 12pm midnight GMT 29 June (Saturday/today) and 12pm midnight 30 June The Official Oasis Website (http://www.oasisinet.com) will be streaming the whole of the new album "Heathen Chemistry".
Yay!
I downloaded it a few months ago. :cool: But deleted all of them because I didn't want to ruin the first time I hear the actual cd.
Still waiting for all the singles DVD's to come in from the UK. :D
PrincessPark
30 Jun 2002, 00:22
I've only heard The Hindu Times and I like it . . . I'll be listening on-line but will still buy the CD as soon as it comes out!
Number 2 in England, behind that stupid Elvis dance song....GO OASIS!
Originally posted by jod23
stupid Elvis
Isn't he an example of one of your 'pure genius' musicians? :o
Originally posted by Stocka
Isn't he an example of one of your 'pure genius' musicians? :o
I think he was reffering to the remix. The original is heaps better, it's actually on the single of the remix (track 4).
And Jod, 'Heathen Chemistry' is this weeks feature album on Triple J and Thursday 10pm there is the Oasis J files. Enjoy. :D
PrincessPark
1 Jul 2002, 17:14
Heathen Chemistry was released today and I bought it. Yay! Suffice to say, it rocks. And I also got a free interview CD-Rom with it. For $24.95 . . . bargain.
Hidden track!!! Around the 33 minute mark of the last song.
Originally posted by PrincessPark
Around the 33 minute mark of the last song.
Oasis are doing a 'Godspeed' are they?
Originally posted by PrincessPark
Heathen Chemistry was released today and I bought it. Yay! Suffice to say, it rocks. And I also got a free interview CD-Rom with it. For $24.95 . . . bargain.
Hidden track!!! Around the 33 minute mark of the last song.
Where'd you buy it from? Where I work it was priced at $20, but had no interview cd! :mad:
PrincessPark
2 Jul 2002, 14:36
HMV in Bourke Street, city.
Originally posted by PrincessPark
HMV in Bourke Street, city.
Yeh got it today. :) We did have the interview cd at work, came in earlier than the albums. Only $20.
Also getting a poster. :D
TheSheik
2 Jul 2002, 17:59
Overated Brit pap sums them up quite well. Couple of good early albums and then utter waffle after that. You've had your day in the sun fellas, time to quit whilst you still have a positive bank balance !!
PrincessPark
5 Jul 2002, 11:51
Noel openly admitted the last two albums were shyte. I think Heathen Chemistry is excellent and people will like it.
M29 - *jealous* Aw, I want a poster too!!